Quick Tip: Getting Started Shooting Steel

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Is it the satisfying "CLANG!" when you score a hit? Or just the fact that you're shooting a target more substantial than paper? Whatever the reason, steel target shooting has been popular for years, and the trend shows no signs of abating. Brownells Gun Techs Steve Ostrem and Caleb Savant have some tips for getting started in shooting steel. The first step is to get the right steel targets for the caliber and velocities you're shooting. The bigger the bullets and the higher the velocities, the thicker steel plate targets you'll need. Target manufacturers also rate targets on how far away from them you need to be. High-velocity bullets shatter on impact, and you don't want to get hit by bits of lead and bullet jacket. Slow-moving bullets, like those used in cowboy action shooting, tend to bounce, so maintaining a safe distance is just as critical. Having good eye protection is even more important than usual when shooting steel. Of course, don't shoot armor-piercing or steel-tipped bullets (like M855 5.56 NATO) at steel targets! Make sure the target is facing you square on. You don't want bullets ricocheting off it and going places they should not go. Follow these basic guidelines, and you'll have a blast shooting steel!

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  • @flea-kh7om
    @flea-kh7om3 жыл бұрын

    When shooting steel with pistols close up. Make sure your steel swings or is canted froward. This way if a round bounces back it won't hit you. I learned this the hard way 58 years ago shooting my first 1911 45 acp. The 230 grain round bounced back and hit me in the leg. It didn't break the skin but it dang sure left a mark. Y'all take care, flea !

  • @1248dl

    @1248dl

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seriously! This is where my ears perked up when they said to have it square, perpendicular, I cringed. Steel needs to be angled so as the splatter goes in a safe direction, not straight back at the shooter.

  • @flea-kh7om

    @flea-kh7om

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1248dl If you angle to target back away from the shooter ( with the bottom of the target back )any splatter will go straight to the ground. Hell, they have designed pistol target like that for many years now. www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/targets-accessories/steel-targets/rifle-pistol-12-square-target-static-stand-prod118293.aspx Example !!

  • @1248dl

    @1248dl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@flea-kh7om That's right. Pretty much what you said at first and I restated.

  • @JayC-hb4oq

    @JayC-hb4oq

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you’re safe! Take care.

  • @hansgrueber8169

    @hansgrueber8169

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bowling pins taught me a similar lesson, lol

  • @btejad00
    @btejad003 жыл бұрын

    I love Brownell’s videos. No tatted up tacticool bearded douchebags acting like they know it all. These guys are just two friendly normal looking guys that talk clearly and straight to the point about firearms along with good info.

  • @bigguy7353

    @bigguy7353

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree 100%. Most of those dudes can't STAND anyone having a different opinion as well, and start name calling and acting like children when someone has one. These fellas give me facts and let me decide.

  • @tomasrecinos448

    @tomasrecinos448

    3 жыл бұрын

    You just described james jeager

  • @EastTexasOutlaws

    @EastTexasOutlaws

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ya, those guntubers are out of control !!!!!!

  • @onionhead5780

    @onionhead5780

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spot on comment. Couldn’t agree more brother. 👍

  • @mistergrendel32

    @mistergrendel32

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bigguy7353 That’s right! I generally see gun people as constitutionalist/conservative. When I see a bearded tatted up douche bag as a gun person, that strikes me as an oxymoron. Tattos are generally a leftist thing. We conservatives have more common sense. 🤓

  • @88azturbo
    @88azturbo3 жыл бұрын

    Just looking forward to the day when I can shoot anything!

  • @notsosilentmajority1
    @notsosilentmajority13 жыл бұрын

    As a guy that's been involved with shooting for many, many years I have only recently gotten into shooting steel. It is a ton of fun. Also, it was not too long ago that I discovered red dots, etc. and now I know what I've been missing, although a lot of younger shooters need to learn how to shoot with iron sights. Some of them look like great shooters but if their batteries run out, they run home, lol.

  • @johncashwell1024
    @johncashwell10243 жыл бұрын

    "...that spalding"!? You had me cracking up Caleb. I know you meant 'spalling'

  • @jarredellis2856

    @jarredellis2856

    3 жыл бұрын

    We knew what he meant to say

  • @john-paulsilke893

    @john-paulsilke893

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also it’s splashing. Spalling is what happens when it penetrates and lows off the back side of the metal. But yup, we know what is meant. Kinda like clip and magazine, except everyone gets spalling wrong and gun nerds correct clip/mag all the time.

  • @AndyCigars

    @AndyCigars

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Spalding, get your foot off the boat!" XD

  • @BigSkyGuyWhy

    @BigSkyGuyWhy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe he meant 'Wilson'

  • @beardedwoodsman9294

    @beardedwoodsman9294

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BigSkyGuyWhy I’m sorrrrryyyyy,wilsonnnnnnnn!!

  • @richardnear4160
    @richardnear41603 жыл бұрын

    My steel shooting years ago was at old cars out in the cow pasture 😁

  • @hansgrueber8169
    @hansgrueber81693 жыл бұрын

    EVEN THE STEEL IS AR?!?! ASSULT RIFLE 500?! OMG, how many clips per minute does that shoot?!

  • @Jdowling357

    @Jdowling357

    3 жыл бұрын

    Over 9000

  • @TheEaglekun

    @TheEaglekun

    3 жыл бұрын

    More so how many boxes does it weigh

  • @mandovapehater6988

    @mandovapehater6988

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hope your kiddin.

  • @TheEaglekun

    @TheEaglekun

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mandovapehater6988 it's satire check the name it's the villan from the first die hard (one of the best Christmas movies ever)

  • @mandovapehater6988

    @mandovapehater6988

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gotcha. A little slow

  • @williamwinn948
    @williamwinn9483 жыл бұрын

    you're gonna bend the steel Leaning it on the ammo Box. lol

  • @NoNo_IStay

    @NoNo_IStay

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh my God. I can't believe some people actually needed that video

  • @gerald.bweaverii6162

    @gerald.bweaverii6162

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NoNo_IStay With all the new gun owners; it is good to make sure they know this stuff. This is why it is referred to as educating, and think it is a great idea.

  • @williamwinn948

    @williamwinn948

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gerald.bweaverii6162 Absolutely It's better to have new gun owners ask these questions then guess, but every once in a while you have to laugh at Yourself.

  • @jasonrad9332

    @jasonrad9332

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well played Sir.

  • @Splattertube

    @Splattertube

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just like a rifle! Don't make that mistake like me. I did once and I still can't zero that thing.

  • @jorges2000
    @jorges20003 жыл бұрын

    Mandalorian steel....awesome 👍

  • @mattw4547

    @mattw4547

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hattori Hanzo steel....

  • @PimptatoPCs

    @PimptatoPCs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Steve didn't have a clue what Caleb was talking about, but still casually nodded "oh ... yeah". And Caleb looking at the camera was comedy.

  • @AndyCigars

    @AndyCigars

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PimptatoPCs If Steve would have said, "This is the way." The internet would have caved in on itself. Thank goodness he let it go.

  • @PimptatoPCs

    @PimptatoPCs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AndyCigars Haha, that was actually a missed opportunity on Caleb's part.

  • @egrith2127
    @egrith21273 жыл бұрын

    I have a small one I use for my .22 and that is the most satisfying target

  • @UNSC011001
    @UNSC0110013 жыл бұрын

    I hang mine in a way that has it slightly angled down to encourage the debris & anything rogue to go down to the ground. Bi-metal rounds that aren't green tips shouldn't be used either. That's what the craters in my plates say anyways.

  • @not.an.operator
    @not.an.operator3 жыл бұрын

    That fun fact was hilarious 😂 love it

  • @JG54206
    @JG542063 жыл бұрын

    These guys are great. I would pay good money to just get to ask them questions for a few hours and get their hands on knowledge.

  • @warrenphilips8441
    @warrenphilips84413 жыл бұрын

    It is so important to angle down steel plates, with the lower edge further back, to direct the bullet fragments into the ground. I have been to some shooting bays where they allow steel plates and someone in the bay next to me did not set it up right. I was going thru my course of fire on paper in a static position when I felt a thud on my shoulder. Couldn't tell you what I was thinking at the time, but I shrugged it off. After 2 more mags I felt another thud on my hat and discovered it was a mushroomed bullet that had rainbowed over the berm into my bay. I hadn't changed my position and I suppose they hadn't either. Still, what are the odds? "Strange things [were] afoot at the Circle K."

  • @jamesthomas4577
    @jamesthomas45773 жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys

  • @ezdrummer
    @ezdrummer3 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate your videos. This dynamic duo is great! How do you read my mind?! I just bought my first set of steel plates today and wanted some information. Steve and Caleb are already in my feed.

  • @curtgivens8943
    @curtgivens89433 жыл бұрын

    Learned the joys of shooting steel in IHMSA matches in the early 90s. Wife and I both shot. Nothing so satisfying as watching a 200 meter ram fall.

  • @MeshFrequency
    @MeshFrequency3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah on my drive to work, I see tank's rounds bouncing off tanks all the time. :P

  • @LUR1FAX
    @LUR1FAX3 жыл бұрын

    Low end, steel cased ammo like Tula and Wolf tend to be perfectly fine to shoot at steel, at least in terms of damage to the actual steel. Mostly because that kind of ammo tends to be a little underpowered. Sparks and potential fire hazards aside.

  • @ivanhorvat1995

    @ivanhorvat1995

    3 жыл бұрын

    Soft steel can't damage hard steel. That's steel 101. Tests have been conducted to disprove the whole steel ammo lore.

  • @rbm6184
    @rbm61843 жыл бұрын

    Safe distance depends on pistol or rifle rounds. Most steel target manufacturers are suggesting 7.5 yards or more for pistol and 55 yards or greater for rifle. Or for metric most common pistol calibers at a distance of no less than 7 meters and most common rifle calibers at a distance of no less than 50 meters. Steel core ammo is strongly discouraged. Respect your distances to avoid spall and frag injuries. Hanging steel is the better option as the steel is free to move at angles from the impact deflecting the spent round. Immobile steel should be angled to deflect spend rounds downward. However ricochets are possible no matter whether hanging or immobile. In my experience most of the rounds from solid hits on the target will dump their energy on it and splatter or fragment on the steel. Partial hits or hits on edges are usually where ricochets happen.

  • @Siasquatch
    @Siasquatch2 жыл бұрын

    I like how Steve and Caleb take a drink or coffee at the same time at the end of the video.

  • @ChrisHirner
    @ChrisHirner Жыл бұрын

    only bounceback i ever got was 22lr out of a 2 inch barrel (Beretta Bobcat). All it did was skip along the ground and land a few feet in front of me. Longer barrel and more powerful rounds are like a water balloon at a concrete wall.

  • @docholliday3273
    @docholliday32733 жыл бұрын

    Great video!!!!!

  • @shawnbuonarosa3188
    @shawnbuonarosa31883 жыл бұрын

    Also remember to never shoot steel shot loads at steel, if you do it anyways , don't shoot it dead on, cant the plate some. I had a few loaded in my tube and forgot that the last 2 were steel shot and got stung by about 12 bb's to the legs.

  • @lucasblanchard47
    @lucasblanchard473 жыл бұрын

    If you mount your plates to be able to swing, make sure they swing as straight backward as possible to deflect rounds straight downward, and not far off to either side.

  • @CompletePandemonium
    @CompletePandemonium3 жыл бұрын

    Boom!...Ping! Gotta love the steel.

  • @bananarobotoverlord
    @bananarobotoverlord3 жыл бұрын

    What caliber is Caleb's hair gel rated for?

  • @NoNo_IStay

    @NoNo_IStay

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao!!

  • @AndyCigars

    @AndyCigars

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Another Shadow ...and that would barely spoil his part.

  • @jeff9104

    @jeff9104

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's not hair, that's a hat !

  • @9ZERO6

    @9ZERO6

    3 жыл бұрын

    All of the calibers.

  • @renotsttam

    @renotsttam

    3 жыл бұрын

    .50 BMG

  • @nathanmabey2106
    @nathanmabey21063 жыл бұрын

    I have seen a wildfire started by shooting steel. Things were a little too dry and the grass underneath caught on fire. You need to be aware of what's around your target, especially during red flag conditions.

  • @toddb930

    @toddb930

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is definitely something to be aware of when using steel targets. Thanks for bring this up,

  • @zerpblerd5966
    @zerpblerd59663 жыл бұрын

    glass bottles ! small squash (those small ornamental pumpkins are great) !

  • @versoarmamentcompany
    @versoarmamentcompany3 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @toddb930
    @toddb9303 жыл бұрын

    Sometime, can you talk about the options to set up steel in the field?

  • @TheBGjosh
    @TheBGjosh3 жыл бұрын

    I had a kid at this shooting spot up in the hills start setting up steel targets diagonally behind my buddies and I. We told him he can't be doing that because you could kill someone and we got the heck out of there.

  • @apuzyr
    @apuzyr3 жыл бұрын

    My two cents: don’t hang the plate from a wire (garage door type) cable. I found that the bullet “shrapnel” destroyed the cable, making it very sharp to handle.

  • @beverwyck1

    @beverwyck1

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you can get a hold of some old firehouse that works great. It's hard to put holes in it but it lasts a long time and takes a bunch of hits before it falls apart.

  • @williamthompson9262
    @williamthompson92623 жыл бұрын

    I had a jacket come back a few years ago and gash me right between the eyes... eye pro is almost more important then ear pro when shooting steel. Man that was a lucky one

  • @Abruzzo333

    @Abruzzo333

    2 жыл бұрын

    Curious, how far away were you from the target?

  • @williamthompson9262

    @williamthompson9262

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Abruzzo333 10-12 yards with 9mm ball

  • @Abruzzo333

    @Abruzzo333

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@williamthompson9262 Good to know. Just bought my first steel. Going to be shooting it with .308 and 5.56 (which it's rated for) ....from about 50 yards away. Perhaps a little close but I've seen videos of people shooting from much closer. Definitely will be wearing eye protection and will probably shoot from a slight angle.

  • @papiparsons9045
    @papiparsons90453 жыл бұрын

    Good info

  • @usbiv223
    @usbiv2233 жыл бұрын

    Another note: fill those pits if they start to form. Small bullets can carom in a divot. I learned that working a shooting range in 2000.

  • @lucasblanchard47

    @lucasblanchard47

    3 жыл бұрын

    You just taught me a new word: carom. Neat!

  • @usbiv223

    @usbiv223

    3 жыл бұрын

    Woohoo! Achievement unlocked!

  • @Mrlebowski78
    @Mrlebowski783 жыл бұрын

    Love shooting steel. I have 1 D-12 that has over 6000 9mm rounds. Cheaper that u think. My 4 plate and stands where under $100.

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr463 жыл бұрын

    BANG💥tink BANG💥tink BANG💥darn

  • @dr.froghopper6711
    @dr.froghopper67113 жыл бұрын

    I once shot an AR550 steel with a.243 Win, 85 gr soft point at 35 yards. It punched a hole through that plate like a paper punch! Follow instructions!

  • @RobGams
    @RobGams2 жыл бұрын

    Can shooting frangible ammo allow you to shoot at closer ranges and further decrease potential for injury and damage to the plates?

  • @tucsonjack3991
    @tucsonjack3991 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Brownells, Your thoughts on shooting AR500 steel targets with 12 gauge, 00Buck, 3" Magnum steel 7 1/2 shot, etc .... Or maybe stay with cardboard targets ? I enjoy your videos. Good stuff. Thanks !

  • @americanliberty4898
    @americanliberty48983 жыл бұрын

    I just usually just dip all my rounds in depleted uranium, keeps the rounds from ricocheting, but I go thru a lot of steel targets!

  • @steveolsen4874
    @steveolsen48743 жыл бұрын

    Watch out for the surplus Russian ammo. I shot at steel plate, 100 yards and it messed it up. I shot a piece of 5/8" regular steel plate and I punched a hole through it. That ammo is steel core. Typically indoor ranges won't let you shoot it either.

  • @jordanbarnard8219
    @jordanbarnard8219 Жыл бұрын

    I think people should pay attention to warping on larger human size targets especially after years of center mass hits. We had one that had slightly bowled out the middle which didn’t seem like a big deal until it started slinging 7.62x39 almost perfectly right back at us at 100 yards. If the plate begins to deform in any way throw it out.

  • @harperhellems3648
    @harperhellems36483 жыл бұрын

    Clang!

  • @ed5042
    @ed50422 жыл бұрын

    Any reference information out there that breaks down what happens to 22lr ammo hitting steel? I am a member at a range where the Board Members are adamant and express a firm belief that 22lr cannot be shot at the centerfire steel targets in the pistol pits. They state that the ricochets from the rimfire ammo is dangerous vs centerfire pistol ammo. Since I can look down and see jacket and core fragments in the pea gravel off the steel plates from immediately in front of the steel plates back to the 35 yard shelter I find this hard to believe. As in the 22lr lead bullets ricochet. I am hoping to read a study or two to enlighten myself, am I wrong or partially right?

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr463 жыл бұрын

    Read ALL the signage at the range. TWICE! I didn't, and after firing a couple rounds of .357 Magnum at steel plates the rangemaster paid me a friendly visit.

  • @kalin6149
    @kalin61493 жыл бұрын

    Slightly disagree with that perpendicular comment. Most guidelines say to slightly angle the steel downwards so as it strikes the steel it doesn't fly past the berm, and instead travels downwards. A few degree tilt down will do that.

  • @stephaniecharacter7149
    @stephaniecharacter71492 жыл бұрын

    last time i was at the range. i shot steel in another lane. being at an angle, could that ricochet?

  • @brookeking8559
    @brookeking85593 жыл бұрын

    Mandalorian armor material! LOL!

  • @gordonvanderelst923
    @gordonvanderelst9233 жыл бұрын

    I use frangible ammo when shooting steel

  • @robertblack8334
    @robertblack83342 жыл бұрын

    What about 12 gauge shotguns and steel, how close is to close, with target rounds and 00 buck.?

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus8 ай бұрын

    I have a 1/2 inch thick 10x12 inch AR500 steel plate that I want to use as a target at 50 yards and 100 yards with my 30-06 rifle. Since I do not want to damage my steel target, I am considering gorilla taping a 1 1/2 inch thick 10x12 inch pine board to the face of the steel. How much do you think the pine board will prevent damage to the steel target and reduce ricochet, shrapnel, fragmentation, and spall?

  • @BT1776
    @BT17763 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget to add a coating of hair gel to the steel plates. The coating make the plate more visible AND adds a layer of protection to help prolong the life.

  • @Jdowling357
    @Jdowling3573 жыл бұрын

    I’ve got some 1/4 steel plate around the shop. I assume my 14.5 noveske 5.56 is going to rip straight thru it at 100+ yards. I’ve made a few targets and plan on trying it out soon. They’ll be hanging at 100, 200, and 300 yards in a very wide open , safe outdoor range

  • @usarmy500
    @usarmy5002 жыл бұрын

    It’s all about angles

  • @rayss3323
    @rayss33233 жыл бұрын

    I've got steel plates but they don't "ring", just thud. I put a cow bell behind the larger one and that gives us something, but the smaller round ones just thud and swing. I've tried hanging them from rubber, from chains and lately from steel strap. Any ideas?

  • @James28R

    @James28R

    2 жыл бұрын

    the thicker it is, the smaller it is, the less it rings. basically. also when shooting 223 or 308 at mine they seem to make a kind of large bang rather than a ding noise.

  • @SuperBadbri
    @SuperBadbri3 жыл бұрын

    Great info.. I've been asking people.about shooting steel with my 9 mm.no one answers back wanted to know the distance and thickness.i have some 1/4 steel don't know a500 or not.i made targets out of,and hanging so hopefully,ammo bounces to ground. haven't tried yet.i want to be safe.

  • @____MC____

    @____MC____

    3 жыл бұрын

    I heard shooting soft steel is a bad idea.

  • @Gottaculat
    @Gottaculat3 жыл бұрын

    A prudent thing to do is setup the plate to be angled slightly so as to deflect the round away and to the side into the berm. For pistol steel, angle the targets considerably down and away. One of my duties as a range safety officer (RSO) is checking the centerfire pistol and .22 rimfire ranges for any plates that need to be corrected, as well as touched up with paint. The steel on the rifle ranges start at 200 yards and end at 450 yards at the range I volunteer at, and have 3 sided berms, so we only check them about once a month to make sure nobody has been using prohibited ammo (AP, incendiary, and tracers). Once in a while some asshat shoots some AP rounds, and it's a real shame because the range is a non-profit and when we have to spend money on replacing steel, that's money that gets diverted from other things, such as shooting competition prizes and facility upgrades. Y'all be smart and courteous, you hear? Stay safe, shoot well, and have fun out there!

  • @aaronshirk746
    @aaronshirk7463 жыл бұрын

    Where can I find some beskar steel?

  • @mmsizzlak
    @mmsizzlak2 жыл бұрын

    "what is a "Mandalorian?"" "Star Wars." "That's still a thing??"

  • @billygildark4565
    @billygildark45653 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know what ar-500 steel is? (From metallurgy pov) A tool steel like 1045 or 4140? Spring steel like 1095 or 5160? Shock resistant like s7 or h13? Air, oil, or water hardening?

  • @billygildark4565

    @billygildark4565

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@debunker4874 thank you for your response sir. 500 (just learned thank you) is around 53ish Rockwell scale which is hard but lower than some other steels. (O1 hardens to 63-68 Rockwell) Just a hobbyist wondering if it’s good blade,axe,chisel material and how to normalize, anneal, treat, temper ?

  • @musicman1eanda
    @musicman1eanda3 жыл бұрын

    What is safe and what isn't?! I just don't know who to believe. It seems like manufacturer distance recommendations are lawyered up? I often see them saying you should be at 100yds or more for rifle use. However, I have seen a lot of excellent shooters/trainers like John Lovell, Aaron Cowan, Lucas Botkin, and others, shoot steel even at only 30-50yds with 223/556.

  • @BalrogSonOfNelgar

    @BalrogSonOfNelgar

    3 жыл бұрын

    I believe part of it is the safety of the plate as well. Shooting closer to the steel will exert more force into the shot than one further back because there is less travel for the bullet and less loss of velocity over time. So even if shooting steel with a 5.56 at 50 yards is safe, it'll wear the plate down more than if you shot it at 100 yards. Keep in mind, it also depends on the angle of the plate, type of ammunition you're using, whether it's swinging or grounded, etc. A lot of people will recommend you set up the targets to swing suspended in the air. Just don't shoot a .50 BMG at 4 yards...

  • @project86xero
    @project86xero3 жыл бұрын

    So is it okay to hang sell plates with loose swinging hooks that don't angle the steel downward? Because originally I had my steel on chains with bolts that angled the steel. However for pistol it had no ring to it. So I tried loose spinning hooks and it rang awesome. However the plates weren't canted forward at rest. Which worried me so I stopped.

  • @mrs.vasquezz

    @mrs.vasquezz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its fine

  • @ChristopherKnN

    @ChristopherKnN

    3 жыл бұрын

    The impact of the round will naturally deflect the plate. The splatter pattern will be less predictable due to impact location, but it will not come back at you.

  • @James28R

    @James28R

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChristopherKnN look at slow motion footage, the plate doesnt move quick enough to effect the spallings direction

  • @ChristopherKnN

    @ChristopherKnN

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@James28R The spalling direction is ok. The flexibility of movement prevents ricochet back at you that a rigid plate could cause.

  • @djinfwb
    @djinfwb3 жыл бұрын

    Be sure to keep your distance away from the steel targets!! Bullets will ricochet and come back at you!!

  • @lordofthewoods
    @lordofthewoods3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, it just gives me the willies. But I think a slight DOWNWARD deflection on impact would be preferable; perpendicular horizontally, but with the bottom of the plate tilted slightly away... that's how I would hang mine if I ever decided to do it. I don't want to be looking at that thing square in the face even 100 yards away. For a standard plate, placing it downhill from you would do the trick. On level ground, the plate would have to be designed/balanced to hang with a slight tilt.

  • @davidstuck2866
    @davidstuck28663 ай бұрын

    Well, I bought 2) 5 1/2" AR500 steel plates at a gun show. I guess they would be considered "generic, because there is no name, markings of any kind, or paperwork with them. I plan on using one at relatively close range (10-20 yards) for hand guns, and the other at 100 yards with my rifles. They look like they are cut out using a mill. because the edges are sharp and perpendicular, with nice machined looking sides. no torches, lasers or waterjets used on these. which as long as these are good, hard steel is just fine with me. Anyway, my question is at 100 yards, using cup and core hunting bullet, will shooting it with my 300 win mag going to destroy the plate? What about 150g full metal jacket bullets from that same gun? I have not shot these yet. the next nice week day, I plan on shooting. I will be hanging these from 1/4" thick conveyor belting. so they will be able to give, and they will be angled so the fragments go into the dirt.

  • @joejr9653
    @joejr96533 жыл бұрын

    We shoot green tips at our steel and it holds up fine.

  • @NoNo_IStay

    @NoNo_IStay

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep. It will. M855 isn't designed to punch thicker steel like targets

  • @j.p.1576

    @j.p.1576

    3 жыл бұрын

    Reference too many threads and videos to count. There is a reason why the USG updated M855. It does not perform as well as M193 to pierce steel armor.

  • @CalebSavant

    @CalebSavant

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was speaking from my personal experiences, all the steel I shot with M855 did not hold up well. What thickness were you using?

  • @rbm6184

    @rbm6184

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@j.p.1576 I agree. I have seen M193 penetrate regular steel better than M855 but the opposite for AR500. I think it may have to do with the amount of carbon in the steel. I think AR500 has more carbon than regular steel.

  • @derfskittlers6125

    @derfskittlers6125

    3 жыл бұрын

    Depends on the distance to steel and how thick it is.

  • @jameyevans29
    @jameyevans293 жыл бұрын

    Its GREAAT

  • @dmaxm2498
    @dmaxm24983 жыл бұрын

    But it’s fun shooting through the steel w/ armor piercing rounds. Lethal weapon style

  • @KhabarovVictor
    @KhabarovVictor3 жыл бұрын

    I heard that green tip (M855) is actually less harsh on steel than 55 gr M193, mostly because of lower velocity, is that true?

  • @j.p.1576

    @j.p.1576

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have personally verified that M193 pierces more steel than M855 with rolled homogeneous armor. Possibly they were speaking from the point of view of a ricochet risk.

  • @CalebSavant

    @CalebSavant

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have ruined several AR500 plates with M855, I do not recommend it!

  • @patriot1303
    @patriot13033 жыл бұрын

    You should keep your fingers out of the trigger guard of those coffee mugs until you’re ready to drink - can’t hurt to be cautious you never know 😏

  • @chewee2k
    @chewee2k8 ай бұрын

    Could you please give a minimum distance for 9mm?

  • @dorianleclair7390
    @dorianleclair73903 жыл бұрын

    The distance they tell you to shot at on the plates is very conservative. They say 100yd for rifle and 50 yd for pistol. I found 50 yard min with rifle and 25 for pistol. Is still safe if you angle bottom of plate slighty away from you that way it is deflected down.

  • @8asw8
    @8asw82 жыл бұрын

    shouldnt you angle your steel downward so the ricochet goes into the dirt?

  • @James28R

    @James28R

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @JayC-hb4oq
    @JayC-hb4oq3 жыл бұрын

    “Fun fact” 😅

  • @danliberty734
    @danliberty7343 жыл бұрын

    So I’ve got the steel plate, what do I mount it on to be functional and safe?

  • @TheEaglekun

    @TheEaglekun

    3 жыл бұрын

    We have ours on a plate hook mounted on a 2x4 there is other hangers where it connects to a few cables (really depends on how many mounting holes you have) only 1 mount use a hook 2/more use a cable holder

  • @flea-kh7om

    @flea-kh7om

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dan, Brownells has some great steel mounts that may work just fine.

  • @flea-kh7om

    @flea-kh7om

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mobieus7 Until you shoot it a couple times and it falls over. Unless you drive it in the ground 2 foot or so. Best of luck.

  • @Mrlebowski78

    @Mrlebowski78

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just get hook stand and metal conduct from Lowes or home depot. Should be under 35 for everything. Amazon has a DIY hook kit.

  • @danliberty734

    @danliberty734

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mobieus7 I shoot on a public range. I need to bring everything, and I think the WMA would frown on me poking holes in their range.

  • @stevenmccrary3218
    @stevenmccrary32183 жыл бұрын

    Why do I see target angled towards the ground?

  • @ChristopherKnN

    @ChristopherKnN

    3 жыл бұрын

    To reduce ricochets coming back at you.

  • @rockstorm4381
    @rockstorm4381 Жыл бұрын

    @2:20 Caleb says, "It's like tanks shooting each other". Hmm, I bet he plays World Of Tanks online.

  • @brownells

    @brownells

    Жыл бұрын

    He's more of a War Thunder guy.

  • @nickjpayne
    @nickjpayne3 жыл бұрын

    M855 is not Armor piercing it’s just 62g FMJ the AP rounds you’re talking about would be the 995/996 AP/ APT respectively

  • @ChristopherKnN

    @ChristopherKnN

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not armor piercing, but does have a steel core that will leave tiny divits at 100 yards on AR500.

  • @CalebSavant

    @CalebSavant

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did not say it was armor piercing, I just said shooting steel with it was a no-no. It is not armor piercing technically, but it is a penetrator round.

  • @rick-kx7gy
    @rick-kx7gy3 жыл бұрын

    AR 550 steel have less clang than AR 500 ?.

  • @ChristopherKnN

    @ChristopherKnN

    3 жыл бұрын

    Generally yes. But depends on size and thickness as well. I have a 24inx24in 1/2in thick that weighs 70lb. It is rated for 50BMG. It does not clang, it tinks, even with 338 Lapua hitting it.

  • @themookie2112
    @themookie21123 жыл бұрын

    those two drink more coffee than the whole USA.

  • @slimdog7088
    @slimdog70883 жыл бұрын

    Haha!! Steve mustn’t know who the Mandolorian is. LoL

  • @CalebSavant

    @CalebSavant

    3 жыл бұрын

    He is just sick of my shenanigans lol..

  • @allens9573
    @allens95733 жыл бұрын

    I guess five or 10 feet probably far enough away right?

  • @GunsmithBeard
    @GunsmithBeard3 жыл бұрын

    HAHAHAHA "the same stuff the Mandalorian makes their armor out of..." Beskar 1911's are next! 1:42

  • @flea-kh7om

    @flea-kh7om

    3 жыл бұрын

    At 70 yrs old I ain't sure I know what a Mandalorian is friend. I'm from the mountains is that some kind of instrument?

  • @flea-kh7om

    @flea-kh7om

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@steveb855 TY , I remember Star Wars. I appreciate it.

  • @mtabije2386

    @mtabije2386

    3 жыл бұрын

    Laughed out loud with that reference!

  • @AndyCigars

    @AndyCigars

    3 жыл бұрын

    Caleb has spoken.

  • @ezrabrooks12
    @ezrabrooks123 жыл бұрын

    DID I JUST HEAR YOU CORRECTLY,I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT GRN. TIP WAS ARMOR PIERCING??????? THE LAST I HEARD WAS THAT IT WASN'T,IT HAS A HARDENED TIP BUT IN NO WAY IS IT ARMOR PIERCING!!!!!! IT'S ACTUALLY REFERED TO AS A PENETRATOR ROUND,IT DOESN'T BOUNCE AROUND LIKE A 55 GR BULLIT!!!!! CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG,I'D LIKE TO KNOW!!!!!!

  • @CalebSavant

    @CalebSavant

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did not say it was armor piercing, I just said shooting steel with it was a no-no. It is not armor piercing technically, but it is a penetrator round.

  • @olhemi1
    @olhemi13 жыл бұрын

    🙂☕👍

  • @onalert413
    @onalert4139 ай бұрын

    M855 isn't armor piercing. True armor piercing ammunition isn't legal to sell in the U.S.

  • @brianlastname3808
    @brianlastname38083 жыл бұрын

    Spaulding! Get your foot off the boat!

  • @CrowT
    @CrowT3 жыл бұрын

    Shoo-ting? What is that?

  • @anthonyaiello95
    @anthonyaiello953 жыл бұрын

    M193 will penetrate steel better than M855 at close distances. Speed.

  • @badmoon7549
    @badmoon75493 жыл бұрын

    I don't shoot steel, but I still shoot.

  • @ChristopherKnN

    @ChristopherKnN

    3 жыл бұрын

    After the "procedure" I shoot blanks.

  • @YouPousti
    @YouPousti3 жыл бұрын

    Hey #WhistlinDiesel watch this video ya Muppet. Its amazing how you manage to actually stand upright lol

  • @brycekeeney4995
    @brycekeeney49953 жыл бұрын

    Steel is great but for some reason I still love love love water bottles. something about seeing the destruction and the cloud of water spray everywhere is just too damn fun. Drink a bottle of water fill it back up with tap and a drop of food coloring then pew pew pew. then clean up and take to the recycling for my 5cents back. Now that is recycling at its best!!!

  • @disturbedmaynard3873
    @disturbedmaynard38733 жыл бұрын

    Can't shoot steel at my sportsman's club. Shrapnel might go off the range and land on a roof, and we get sued.

  • @ChristopherKnN
    @ChristopherKnN3 жыл бұрын

    First step.... Find ammunition.

  • @last_raven
    @last_raven3 жыл бұрын

    Do NOT be Whistlin Diesel

  • @cornpop7805
    @cornpop78055 ай бұрын

    Brownells, every time he said "whenever" he should have said "when". The term is spalling, not spalding.

  • @poacher-ec9zo
    @poacher-ec9zo3 жыл бұрын

    Your next smithbusters should be on m855 ammo. It's not armor piercing. M193 will ruin a steel target alot faster than M855.

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    Video is louder than usual

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