Quick Deploy, No Tie, Tarp Ridge-line
When it starts to rain, you want to get under cover quickly, and if your cover is your tarp, you really want to be able to get it up as quickly as possible. In this video, we're out and about in the woods testing a quick deploy, no tie ridge-line. The line is up in less than 90 seconds and the tarp hanging about 15 seconds later. Without me yapping on, I reckon the shelter is up in less than 2 minutes. (Maybe I'll revisit this and time it - let me know if you'd like to see that!)
I've seen a few videos showing various fast systems, most notably on Corporals Corner which is where I first saw the concept and decided to have a go myself. In reality, as with all of these there is a catch. While this one is "no tie" you do need to prepare your line before you go out. Prep' in this case is to create a loop at one end, using your favourite knot and add four loops using prussic friction knots..
Now originally, this was just going to be called "quick deploy", but "inanowt" turned up with a nifty bot of kit called the CamJam which we decided to incorporate, and that allowed us to add "no tie". If you wanted to do away with the marlin you could add another prussic, and CamJam, effectively giving you a truckers hitch at both ends.
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Interesting take on the ridge line, thumbs up for recognising Corporals Corner. Proper job.
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Paul, appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. I'll always try and give proper dues if I take inspiration from another youtuber. Stay safe, have fun. Andy
@pueblo1960
3 жыл бұрын
Pathfinders
I've actually been doing this very same thing. Lol. The Pathfinder instructors all are great at what they do, and are a great source to build ideas and techniques from.
@kevinwiens4804
Жыл бұрын
Pathfinder school instructors are always proud to see their students "improving" on what they teach. Necessity is the "mother of invention" as they say! Carry on..
I do like that cam carabiner plus prussik for the modified truckers hitch. Will be trying that. Many thanks - neat idea!
@owtnabowt2723
2 жыл бұрын
I've found it really useful when I need to crank up the tension. Let me know how you get on 👍
Yep this is the best one I’ve seen so far. Thanks for sharing!
I'm so freaking happy you showed that Lil device, I use the cam jam as well and honestly it is the greatest version of a truckers hitch ever.
@owtnabowt2723
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason. Its always good to know when people find a video useful 🙂
I keep 7 tent stakes with my tarps, this way I am NOT looking for toggles, I already have them. Plus I have 5 loops on each ridge line so I can pull the tarp extra tight, one loop is used for hanging a light.
I love experimenting with fast deploy lines, and found the sticks to secure the tarp are not required, the knot of the prusik will keep it in place nicely under its own tension.
That’s a pretty legit ridge line system you put together.
@owtnabowt2723
Жыл бұрын
Cheers codykelley, nearly 2 years now and still going strong.
Make your prusik loops soft shackels and you can avoid the toggles near your tarp .( In a windy day they might damage your tarp)
Put a free running toggle on ridgeline and use that to put through loop....saves having to find a stick and it'll never drop out. Keep tarp on ridgeline all the time...so deploy tarp as you deploy ridgeline. Toggle at the other end allows you to easily use a self-locking truckers hitch.
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Frog Box (as in "mad as a"?). Another viewer mentioned something similar, maybe I should give it a go!
I'm a bungie fan myself, used them on exercise/ deployment for years in complete darkness at times, takes seconds for a minor weight penalty with much less to faff with when it's time to bail.
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting Matt. A good call on the bungees. Was never deployed (TA), but can certainly see where they'd be an advantage and I do use them when its windy, you need that bit of give otherwise shit gets damaged...lol.
I use the same type of set up. The only thing that I've done differently is how I made my prusik loops? I used to make my loops by tieing the two ends in a knot like yours. But the knots could be annoying sometimes. So I came up with another idea that got rid of the problem, and its never once let me down. Instead of forming the loops with a knot, I slid a piece of shrink wrap tubing onto the paracord first, then welded the two ends of cord together with a lighter. Then I slid the heat shrink tubing over the join so it was central over the weld. Then I got my lighter out again and the heat shrink constricts tightly over the join. It's just as quick and easy to make the loops using my method, as it is to tie and trim the knots in the usual way. It doesn't sound like it would make much difference by using my heat shrink trick, but it certainly does. If you try it, you'll soon see what I mean. 👍
@owtnabowt2723
2 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of that. Might have to give it a go.
@jimmy66603
2 жыл бұрын
@@owtnabowt2723 By pure coincidence, my son asked me if I could set up my 3x3 dd tarp in the garden today as a bit of sun protection for my 2 yr old granddaughter. No problem at all I said. I strung my ridgeline out between the washing line pole and a ladder that I leant against my shed at a low angle. (Approx 5m distance apart). I used a truckers hitch to tention the ridgeline, but I didn't go too heavy on it cos I had visions of the ladder toppling over🙈😆! Within 5 mins at the very most, my granddaughter had a nice neat 3x3m sunshade to play under. My son was amazed at how quickly I got it all set up for him. So I showed him how I did it. He especially liked the idea of the prusik loops with a couple of clothes pegs that i used as toggles. Then i demonstrated to him how prusik knots work. I'm a big fan of all the different types of knots and their different/specific uses. It all started as a child when my grandfather taught me how to tie a truckers hitch. I was fascinated by how such a simple knot could generate so much power and leverage. Then he told me a very true old saying that I'll never forget.... "It's better to know a knot and not need it, than it is to need a knot but not know it" The truckers hitch will always be my favourite knot for sentimental reasons as well as practical reasons. But following very closely behind in 2nd place is without doubt the superb and simple prusik knot. Great channel mate. 🤝👍
@owtnabowt2723
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmy66603 Thanks for commenting. Its great when you get a situation where you can engage with people using a practical demonstration like yours. Before you know it your son will be out in the wilds with his tarp and hammock 😀
Using the camjam with the prussick knot is smart. Easier to position far from the tree to really get more tension on that line
@owtnabowt2723
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Diego 🙂🙂
Very helpful. Thanks.
I think if you cut yourself two metres of rope you can practice the Siberian Hitch and the Trucker’s Hitch whilst you’re watching TV. With a bit of practice you can tie these knots in less time. You could also try pre threading your ridgeline onto your tarp. It’s what I’ve done. It’s almost as quick as bungees.
If you use soft shackles for your prussics, you can avoid the need for the sticks/toggles. A soft shackle prussic can replace the cam as well.
@owtnabowt2723
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice, I'll look in to it.
good one, I do something similar but use a trucker's hitch on the 2nd end, but might give this a crack. Great channel name too 😀 Good luck with it, subbed ✌🏻
@owtnabowt2723
7 ай бұрын
Nice work fella👍 . Just watched your ridge line vid, great minds etc. Likewise with the channel name choice. (I feel like a city that's just been twinned with somewhere exotic 😂) *subbed*
@outandabout_oz
7 ай бұрын
cheers, great mids for sure 👍 @@owtnabowt2723
I like the idea of that carabiner. But if I was going for fast I'd tie the truckers hitch.
Nice. I use the fast deploy by Mike of MCQ Bushcraft as shown in his video Bushcraft Quick Deployment Tarp Shelter System, but I'm slow at lashing the ridgeline ends to the trees, so I'm going to adopt your modification of having a loop end and camjam on the other end of my ridgeline.
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and I'm really happy it was useful. Those Camjams are great, and full credit for finding them goes to Jay. He uses one at both ends in replacement for the loop and Marlin Spike, just using it as a small carabineer. A closer look at the Camjam can be seen on this Video kzread.info/dash/bejne/goSqxJSmnrDdlMY.html at around 17:30
Nice addition of the cam jam.
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brenda. The cam jam is cracking bit of kit, and pretty inexpensive as well.
aw man.. love the take on prusik know there at the other end of ridgeline... damn how i didnt thought about it! now im gonna use it everywhere! :D
@owtnabowt2723
2 жыл бұрын
Happy to share the idea,, and glad you find it useful.👍 Thanks for watching and taking time to comment.
Mines quicky too. It's already on my tarp.
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
My friend leaves his attached, but he always uses the same set up with his hammock. I never know where I'll be so just strip it out each time.
Good system. I use wooden dowels/toggles on the Prussik loops and find it a lot easier than hunting for twigs and sticks. Just drill a hole in a wooden dowel/toggle and thread it through the Prussik line.
@owtnabowt2723
2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few set ups with toggles, I might add a few.
@Tomteeejay
2 жыл бұрын
@@owtnabowt2723 Thanks for the reply. Toggles take all the hassle out - quick and effective.
@owtnabowt2723
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tomteeejay No Probs. I try and reply to everyone who's taken time to comment. Occasionally one slips through and it takes a while before I see it.
@Tomteeejay
2 жыл бұрын
@@owtnabowt2723 No probs. :)
I dunnoh. Seems like the truckers hitch is just as fast and more secure.
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
Hi None Ya, Thanks for dropping by and taking time to comment. I like to learn as many different ways as I can, and let circumstance be the decider on which is the best, but truckers hitch is my go to when I need a quick and easy :)
If you want to go hardware-free, you ditch the camjam and just do an automatic truckers hitch through the first prusik loop.
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I demonstrate the automatic truckers hitch (through a farmers loop though) on our wild camping video in the Forest of Dean. I might have to pay it another visit :D EDIT: Just checked out you're channel. Very nice string work fella!
@rickwebermusic
3 жыл бұрын
@@owtnabowt2723 I've always been fascinated with knots/hitches (etc.). It's amazing how many things you can do with knowledge of just a few of them. I hammock camp, and use prusiks on my hammock suspension to attach my tarp- which has toggles on each end. This allows me to hang both my hammock and tarp from the same suspension. Also, thank you for checking out my channel! I don't have a ton of time to add songs regularly, but I'm trying to do better!
It’s called a Brummell splice
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers for that, I'll Update the description to include the correct name. :D
I'm thinking two pairs of halfhitches could be faster still and needs no cam-biner Tie a halfhitch and lodge the twig to lock it, run around the tree and back to the knot, tie your second hitch around the first resting on the knot, not the twig. Repeat the other end but tension the line before making the second hitch. Will test tomorrow lol 👍
@owtnabowt2723
2 жыл бұрын
Make sure to pop a vid on your channel and let me know how you get on with it, I'd love to see the set up.
@OldNavajoTricks
2 жыл бұрын
@@owtnabowt2723 I shall have to rig a stand/hanger for the potato-phone first but yup, I will do pal 👍
need smaller diameter line on those prusiks
Don’t understand where the camjam is attached.
Your looking at 4 minutes of setup time just your ridge line ok I get my ridge line and hammock in one go useing a rope one knott clip my hammock in and put tarp up about 30 sec to 2min try make video of soon
@owtnabowt2723
2 жыл бұрын
Hi woodscraft Lidsay. The ridgeline goes up in around 20seconds when the wrap is prepped correctly and the ground is clear. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nqGj27GuntzAqrQ.html In reality things get in the way, like branches on the trees and scrub on the ground. Not to mention that despite all best efforts, cord sometimes gets tangled. But I think you know that now 😀👍 Stay safe
only good if you camp always at the same spot with the same trees
Would this work with most hollow cord like amsteel?
@owtnabowt2723
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure I saw a video recently where a boating firm were doing this with Amsteel. I cant give a definitive yes, but cant see why it wouldn't.
No knots, you say? A Marlin Spike at fixed end, and four Prusiks... :-) I use this ridgeline (I'm learned it from Corporal's corner channel), but I think the fixed end of a ridgeline can be quickly tied to tree with Siberian knot or just any quick-release slipping knot. Searching for a wooden stick for toggle takes some time. :)
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dmitry, Thanks for dropping by and commenting. There are quite a few knots aren't there😃. I suppose more realistically, the ridge line is to avoid having to tie and untie knots while "in the field". It can be a real pain in the arse when cold, wet and in a hurry. I also took inspiration from CC, He's a very good communicator.
@mlastname4367
2 жыл бұрын
Well, if you want to get technical, a marlin spike hitch is a hitch, not a knot.
The centre pressie knot will not stay with a stick under tension,maybe should of run the tarp line through the centre point first so you can either put it up square or diamond shape,instead of buying cam jams,try using a stick with a hole bored through it as a jam,I can see your a all the gear type of vlogger,atb
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
LOL. I may have no idea, but I certainly don't have all the gear 😆. I try not to run the ridgeline through any of the loops on the Basha as it slows the take down. (not that I'm generally in a hu😀rry). I reality, if I really wanted a super fast deploy, I'd have all the lines pre-attached, but if you watch some of my other vids, the thing that draws me to the basha is how versatile it is. And I like that it can be set up in lots of different ways. You are right though, about using other methods than the camjam,. I do like it, but I've reverted to a truckers hitch on a farmers loop. Its quite satisfying pulling the line tight in that fasion, and its always better to have multiple ways of doing things. As we say 2 is 1, and 1 is none. Thanks for watching and commenting.
dude, you have a cam jam, and a prussik knot? the cam jam works way better by itself. 3 prussik knots, is all that is needed, 2 for the tarp, one to hang a light.
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
I know, I know...lol What can I say, I'm a slave to habit 😅
Not quick at all you defeated the purpose the minute you tossed the line on the floor just an observation
Idea stolen from Corporal's Corner.... Bit dissapointing
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
stolens a bit harsh... lol. I specifically mention corporals corner as rhe inspiration at the start of the video and link to his original video of the quick deploy so I hope you're not too disappointed with me.. :) in all seriousness though, I hope I try and give credit where its due,. I Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Stay safe.
@roguerader
3 жыл бұрын
@@owtnabowt2723 Oops! apologies then! my terrible mistake mate!
@FactFinderGeneral
3 жыл бұрын
Plus not to mention, Corporal is far from the first person to use it himself. Been around before he was even born. Nobody "owns" it.
@owtnabowt2723
3 жыл бұрын
@@FactFinderGeneral very true, lots of "versions" out there..