Quick Change Mill Tooling Upgrade For The Mill (Mark 2)

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Quick Change Mill Tooling Mark 1 : • Quick Change Mill Tool...
G'day everyone,
I recently made a video where I made some quick change mill tooling for the mini mill. The old system of swapping out tooling using a simple ER 32 collet chuck was time consuming and cumbersome.
The new quick change mill tooling worked by using individual holders which held a ER 20 collet which hold the cutting tool. The holders would be able to be quickly indexed into the mill using a morse taper collet.
In the last video I used the lathe to create the individual tool holders, however I ran into issues regarding run out, due to the limitations of the lathe.
In this video I will replace the home made tool holders with import tool holders which I bought for an affordable price. I hope you enjoy the video.
Cheers
#machining #DIY #millingmachine
Mill: Sieg x2.7l
Lathe: Sieg c3 7x14 Mini Metal Lathe
Timestamps
0:00 - Recap From The Previous Video
0:40 - Issues I Ran Into
1:38 - New Tooling Approach
2:51 - Modifying The Tool Holder
4:33 - Modifying The Tool Holders Montage
5:37 - Assembling The Tool holder & 3/4" Holders
6:31 - Testing The Tooling
Funky Boxstep
Kevin MacLeod
• Funky Boxstep

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  • @slartimus
    @slartimus2 жыл бұрын

    I was expecting an excruciatingly long (albeit sped up) hacksawing of those shanks, and was _so_ surprised when the angle grinder came out instead. 😄

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    cheers. I was about to, but I really didn't want to scratch those nicely ground surfaces by mistake. Regular scheduled hacksawing will resume.

  • @jaigennat4120

    @jaigennat4120

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha.. me too

  • @jakubkopec9313
    @jakubkopec93132 жыл бұрын

    Great idea. This is perfect size and cost for hobby shop. Now it is time for making of the power drawbar (hand powered).

  • @guitarchitectural
    @guitarchitectural2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, I did something similar for my lathe tailstock. ER16 "motor shaft" collet holders with 10mm steel bar cut to length for the shaft. Makes it quick and easy to change between my usual drill bits in the tailstock!!

  • @kefler187

    @kefler187

    2 жыл бұрын

    putting a draw bar in your tailstock does sound especially useful o.O

  • @guitarchitectural

    @guitarchitectural

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kefler187 I use them in a Jacobs chuck

  • @noisemaker1696
    @noisemaker16962 жыл бұрын

    I've been following along for a while now and I've gotta say the presentation has come a long way. Beautiful video work, mate

  • @JETHO321
    @JETHO3212 жыл бұрын

    Your .01mm is impressive. That equates to .00039 inches. You can't ask for better than that on a small mill.

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cheers, that's about 4 tenths or about. Im very happy with it

  • @kencurtis508
    @kencurtis5082 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks for sharing.

  • @klerulo
    @klerulo2 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the homage to Project Binky!

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    As Richard Brunning would say, time to get the funk out. Cheers

  • @wyattselleck7236
    @wyattselleck72362 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @TheLastTater
    @TheLastTater2 жыл бұрын

    Nice work! They came out great for that price.

  • @madguernseyboy
    @madguernseyboy2 жыл бұрын

    great job ! Love it I might copy that one day

  • @nexusofice9135
    @nexusofice91352 жыл бұрын

    Making your own tooling is always fun. Imo more fun than the projects you use them for sometimes.

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely, I have had a lot of fun doing it, and it comes out to be much cheaper too.

  • @lgrfbs
    @lgrfbs Жыл бұрын

    Nice system and video.

  • @Bart_Depestele
    @Bart_Depestele5 ай бұрын

    Nice cup of tea

  • @darrylwhitman8475
    @darrylwhitman8475 Жыл бұрын

    real nice idea , I will fallow your lead an make some , please keep the videos' coming ,thank you ..

  • @dondawson7409
    @dondawson74092 жыл бұрын

    Pretty impressive

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou

  • @auxchar
    @auxchar2 жыл бұрын

    Ooooh fancy montage editing

  • @Smallathe
    @Smallathe2 жыл бұрын

    Nice!!!

  • @kingkasma4660
    @kingkasma46602 жыл бұрын

    I have a tipp for you wrap wire around your threats when u want to clamp on it

  • @mrayco
    @mrayco2 жыл бұрын

    I like the way you presented your vedio thank you

  • @robertwalker7457
    @robertwalker74572 жыл бұрын

    Good work, getting pretty flash with the multi screen video too.

  • @DolezalPetr
    @DolezalPetr2 жыл бұрын

    this is how it is done, much better

  • @jirvin4505
    @jirvin45052 жыл бұрын

    Great update video. Are these runouts with the same collets you had concerns with previously?

  • @wizrom3046
    @wizrom30462 жыл бұрын

    Wow $12 each... can't argue with that! 🙂

  • @AERuffy
    @AERuffy2 жыл бұрын

    I went with a MT3 to Tormach TTS adapter to ER20 collet set for my mini mill.

  • @Oberkaptain

    @Oberkaptain

    2 жыл бұрын

    I did the same except from R8 to TTS.

  • @HM-Projects
    @HM-Projects2 жыл бұрын

    Nice value for $12. I gave up on it and ended up just making or buying MT3 taper ER holders. I have a dud set of MT3 spring collets, gave up trying to get a good one.

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    I considered that too, just I found this to be quicker and cheaper, although I'm sure it's a little less rigid . Cheers

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper7802 жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @ferrumignis
    @ferrumignis2 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried using roughing cutters in your machine? If so does it significantly increase the depth of cut you can make?

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have some on they way, although I have not used them on this mill before

  • @dikyoda1881
    @dikyoda1881 Жыл бұрын

    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @RedDogForge
    @RedDogForge Жыл бұрын

    i had bought the ones that look similar that you pointed out, they were terrible. like 2 thou runout. just out of curiosity who is the higher quality collet? shars? ive been looking at hardinge. pricey but perfect, that said. again pricey lol.

  • @DR-br5gb
    @DR-br5gb8 ай бұрын

    What's the Z- offset variation or error that you get with each tool change?

  • @robertwatsonbath
    @robertwatsonbath2 жыл бұрын

    Nice. The cuts in steel you show are using a vanilla HSS endmill? Looks pretty decent to me!

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, these are inexpensive import ones. They do a half decent job, although they don't last too long in ferrous metal.

  • @robertwatsonbath

    @robertwatsonbath

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@artisanmakes Cool thanks. Interested to hear how you get on with carbide when you get them! 👍

  • @idontwantcorporateretaliat6301
    @idontwantcorporateretaliat63018 ай бұрын

    Can you provide a link to seller store? I'm having a hard time finding import tooling w/decent runout.

  • @SQ_og
    @SQ_og9 ай бұрын

    Which nuts are the silver ones?

  • @ferlan32
    @ferlan322 жыл бұрын

    I would like to know if the z (tool length) is repeatable when you take the holder off and back on. I'm thinking I could use this on my Cnc for faster manual tool changes.. Thanks!

  • @KingZeusCLE

    @KingZeusCLE

    8 ай бұрын

    I know this is a year out, but the Tormach TTS holders repeat very well. Even on my knock offs and cheap mill, tools repeat within a couple thou.

  • @Bmlventura
    @Bmlventura6 ай бұрын

    Inwas looking at the same solution for myself, shame they dont sell them as 50mm long shafts.

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    6 ай бұрын

    That would be perfect wouldn’t it be. Oh well 20 seconds with an angle grinder is enough to correct it

  • @486cambell
    @486cambell2 жыл бұрын

    im sure these tool holders will be well worth the small investment they where, also if its any intrest to you i have some large hss bridge reamers 1" and larger, there not of much use to me but a good sorce of large hss, i could send one to you if you would like and was that a bit of bad obsession motorsport montage with the tea ?

  • @Pushyhog
    @Pushyhog2 жыл бұрын

    banggood stuff is good

  • @psykosis101
    @psykosis1012 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid mate, have you seen Siegs new SX3.5ZDP HiTorque Mill?

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am aware of them though I don't think they were for sale when I bought this mill. Looking at them, I am sure they are a solid machine, but for the price I'd rather go with a used machine or a Taiwanese made one. Cheers

  • @psykosis101

    @psykosis101

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@artisanmakes yeah, my thoughts as well. Not sure of their market at that price

  • @piccilos
    @piccilos2 жыл бұрын

    Time for a pneumatic drawbar build.

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    a power draw bar or something of the like is on the table. The effect of having a quill does complicate it a little bit more than i'd like. Most examples I've seen are with mills that do not have one. I have a few ideas and I'll hopefully be trying them out soon. Cheers

  • @TSyrjalaknives
    @TSyrjalaknives2 жыл бұрын

    One nice thing with those 3/4 er collets is, that you can get that flat surface in them to fit against your spindle nose. Gives a lot of rigidity. I use them my self, and it was not so hard to find 3/4 morse taper collet with metric threads.

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well whatever works for you. And not bad of you can acquire those collets, they aren't available where I live. Cheers

  • @TSyrjalaknives

    @TSyrjalaknives

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@artisanmakes i found one from ebay, the seller was in UK if i remember right...

  • @EmyrDerfel

    @EmyrDerfel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TSyrjalaknives I'm not surprised you found tools mixing imperial and metric from a UK source!

  • @haydenc2742
    @haydenc27422 жыл бұрын

    Whoah....cue the 70's porno music...LOL Very cool lathe work..love watching your video's Keep em coming!!!!

  • @RZ296
    @RZ2962 жыл бұрын

    Why do not use ER20 with MT3 taper?

  • @jakubkopec9313

    @jakubkopec9313

    2 жыл бұрын

    MT 3 taper tooling is not exactly quick to change. Morse tapers are self locking and to remove it you have to hit the drawbar with a hammer. His idea is much better, quick, easy and keeps tool height consistent.

  • @RZ296

    @RZ296

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jakubkopec9313 One of my mills, converted to CNC, have MT3 in spindle, and it has left handed tread on the top of the spindle. There is the cap with hole on top, and when I need to extract the tool from the spindle, I just use two wrenches, one for cap and other for drawbar, no hammering. Other milling machine with MT4, which I sold year ago, has the exact same system. And third machine, which I use as manual machine now, have ISO 40 spindle, the whole defferent story. I agree with you about the tool height consistency, but I think that hammerless extraction system can be another project for Artisan Makes.

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RZ296 I can assure you that a power draw bar or something of the like is on the table. The effect of having a quill does complicate it a little bit more than i'd like. Most examples I've seen are with mills that do not have one. I have a few ideas and I'll hopefully be trying them out soon. Cheers

  • @jirvin4505
    @jirvin45052 жыл бұрын

    Is a quick release draw bar next? Thought you may like this version kzread.info/dash/bejne/qWSYj9GgnbKvlbg.html Cheers Jeff

  • @Oberkaptain
    @Oberkaptain2 жыл бұрын

    Why not just get a TTS holder kit?

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's already a similar set up, but this is a lot cheaper

  • @MissingClara
    @MissingClara11 ай бұрын

    Didn't you mean Mark 3 in the title? MT2 has a max holding diameter of 12mm.

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    11 ай бұрын

    No it’s mark 2 as in the second iteration of this. I had an earlier attempt that wasn’t as successful

  • @RedDogForge
    @RedDogForge Жыл бұрын

    45-50 is not hardened to barely hardened. they lied.

  • @The_Unobtainium
    @The_Unobtainium Жыл бұрын

    usd12 per piece... yeah... it is twice as much now. Senseless:/

  • @GeorgeZaharia
    @GeorgeZaharia10 ай бұрын

    5mm cuts lmao... bro ... not even the big tamahawk reactor cnc's do them types of cuts... if its designed for 50mm they probably will cut 5mm per pass... not 50.... cause tool bits are expensive especially after u run a piece and then u need another tool....

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    10 ай бұрын

    The haas machines we used to run would like a word. All depends on the type of job

  • @phredka12
    @phredka12Ай бұрын

    It is really bad ran out

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    Ай бұрын

    10 microns is fine for cheap collets on a hobby machine. We aren't running DMG machines here. If that's not good enough for you then you don't have to use this method

  • @phredka12

    @phredka12

    Ай бұрын

    @@artisanmakes you were offended because I pointed out that it wasn't as good as you thought. for hobby applications this is unacceptable. especially since it's very easy to improve quality.

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    Ай бұрын

    I don’t know where you get this offended idea. It’s just difference of opinion, mine being based on running hobby and commercial machines

  • @phredka12

    @phredka12

    Ай бұрын

    @@artisanmakes from damaged tools not only in woodworking, and opinion of many professionalist in cnc work in all materials, now you know 👍, I am against people who propagate false knowledge, in name of sub... Likes... And views... Or stupidity.

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    Ай бұрын

    👍

  • @trashes_to_treasures
    @trashes_to_treasures2 жыл бұрын

    2:57 CHEATER!!! You should have used a hacksaw as expected. Immediately unsubscribed 😅

  • @artisanmakes

    @artisanmakes

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha cheers. I was about to, but I really didn't want to scratch those nicely ground surfaces by mistake. Regular scheduled hacksawing will resume.

  • @trashes_to_treasures

    @trashes_to_treasures

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@artisanmakes glad you decided to come back to your mind and give us what we need 😄😉 Thx for the great content and greetings from Berlin!

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