Thank you Sidequest for supporting my content and for giving away a Quest 3! You can find the details here: sidequestvr.com/app/10831/banter-public-beta? Let me know what you love and hate about modern VR UI/UX! I am working on a deep dive of the *VR UX* and your input would be omega valuable! Much love.

@anderhalvelego

3 ай бұрын

*2 quest 3's now, in celebration of this video there doing another one

@kirby317

3 ай бұрын

We need to get to websites, faster, easier, clicking the bookmarks button feels so cave man. Not being able to change the homepage in a browser yikes 😬. Being able to resize the window in a "close" universal menu would be cool. The uni-menu's "pinned" apps is a joke, force pinning adware called "horizon feed" and "people" taking 2 out of only 5 pins 🤢 I want to be able to launch sideloaded apks without having to hit a dropdown and feeling like a criminal, just add all apps to an app drawer like experience with internet shortcuts would be ideal for me. Probably not within the scope of your project but I still haven't found a working remote desktop Built for the universal menu the built in "remote display" only shows your computer, useless. I half thought someone would have made a ROM for this android device by now, given all these UI issues, but there really is no modding community for the quest

@Vorexia

3 ай бұрын

One thing I'm not a huge fan of is how two-dimensional it is. I get that it's largely because most apps are designed for desktop use, but it would be cool to see VR-specific apps have more actual depth to their menus and effects. It's not a huge sucker that it's all in 2D, and I guess it does preserve battery life, but it feels like a missed opportunity. Even something as mundane as tapping on an icon and seeing it bounce around in 3D a little would be nice.

@joshuadelaughter7968

3 ай бұрын

I still can't get used to your hair. 😂

@kirby317

3 ай бұрын

Here's my wishlist Santa ❤ An app drawer that has sideloaded apks so I'm not feeling like a criminal as well as browser shortcuts Customizable browser homepage unpin "horizon feed" and "people" (people could have its own button elsewhere) #notanapp Resizable windows in "close" universal menu Make the window frame "grabbable" area bigger I miss the first time, Everytime. A working remote desktop in uni-menu

Doesn't matter if it's not actually weekly, this is the only VR news roundup that I actually care about watching.

@ThrillSeekerVR

3 ай бұрын

@Spectator_lawful_evil

3 ай бұрын

@@ThrillSeekerVRjust don’t push yourself too hard man, burnout is real

@tacormme2485

3 ай бұрын

Same dude 😂🎉

@ivanuski15

3 ай бұрын

i want it to be weekly 😢

@sky0kast0

3 ай бұрын

But VR news is periodical not all the time

that valve announcement was absolutely criminal😭

@Pallet_

3 ай бұрын

I was genuinlley listening to all the specs wanting the headset only to hear it was a meme break 😭

@johnsmyth8673

3 ай бұрын

What if it's a fakeout to create hype and gauge interest and then in December Prism will drop unannounced.

@ghwstvr7904

3 ай бұрын

stealth meme break was the best :D

@SuperMacsen22

3 ай бұрын

@@johnsmyth8673it is a fake

@Hyzian

3 ай бұрын

​@johnsmyth8673 as much as i wish to agree with you, i really dont think the prism is ever coming out. its gonna be something else

If Tuesday Newsday is posted on a Saturday you KNOW it's gonna be a good one. ;P

@hawknetwork

3 ай бұрын

no way good to see u here !!

@catcatdaniel

3 ай бұрын

Tuesday newsday just sounds good

@blank6204

3 ай бұрын

FR!! I'm so excited for this controller + hand tracking combo. I wonder what it means for quest vrchat users. Hand tracking is janky in vrchat bc of arm movement just randomly making you go 🧍‍♂but with controllers strapped on maybe your hands just straight up not tracking won't be an issue nearly as much. If the headset has something more to go off of than your fingers that can actually be seen at all angles it may make hand tracking fully usable in games!!

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns

2 ай бұрын

@TheVirtualReality I heard ChilloutVR is coming out on the Quest platform. Do you plan on trying it out?

I haven’t been into the news for a long time so I totally took the Valve Prism bait ☹️ damn. I remember thinking when index came out that “oh I’ll just wait till the next one”. 5 years later.. lmaoo

@StackworksCustom

3 ай бұрын

Then there’s those of us who bought one, love it, and can’t seem to find replacement parts for a well worn friend. 🤦🏼‍♂️

@mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38

3 ай бұрын

But then when the new one comes out you should wait a year for the hardware defects to be resolved.

@AnthonyClay

3 ай бұрын

@@mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38 Which is about how long it takes for all the preorders to shake out.

@kcchiefsproductions8687

3 ай бұрын

​@mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38 Assuming there would be a price drop I'd agree, but without a price drop might aswwll go for it I'd say. Either way, I'm just blabbing about nothin lol

@PavltheRobot

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I felt that too. Index is so outdated now, but I don't want to get anything from Meta. So waiting is the only option for now

Lets go competition. Making VR better for its users

New Zealand timezone = Sunday Newsday. We got keep up.

@Resiksim

3 ай бұрын

xD

@hyperhypa

3 ай бұрын

You should probably be asleep now

@aj08coder

3 ай бұрын

Same

@connax

3 ай бұрын

@@hyperhypa its 10:28 am

@slothonastick32

3 ай бұрын

Cozy rainy day

Six’s headset being called Vi is kinda funny cause that’s the Roman numeral for six

Quest UX: Often buttons / objects require extreme steadiness to differentiate a "click" from a short "drag". I've seen this in many apps, but even basic virtual keyboard use. For any object that cannot be dragged using the trigger alone, a "click" should always register unless one pulls far away from the initial point vector.

Regarding Quest UX, it can remember multiple boundaries, so it should be able to remember past window layouts and automatically open them. There’s also no reason it shouldn’t be able to remember how if passthrough was on or off, or how loud the volume was. This is the virtual equivalent of tab groups

You mentioned "controller holsters" as soon as my mind came to that same realization. It's definitely an accessory for the near future.

@unfortunateflicks6751

3 ай бұрын

I'd pick up a pair of controllsters for sure

@hexshadow6647

3 ай бұрын

It's an accessory that should have been accessible for a long time. If their taking this long to make controller holsters you have to start questioning how fucking stupid these companies are.

@kcchiefsproductions8687

3 ай бұрын

​@@hexshadow6647Well, usually the CEO (in this case Mark Zuckerberg) is smart but he can only do so much and come up with so many different ideas. I honestly have a lot of respect for Meta specifically in the VR category. They are the only company that is making standalone VR widely accessible and it's been getting better and better while other companies don't even have a standalone VR headset. I do think Mark Zuckerberg is smart.

that meme break broke my heart lol i pause and call my friend exited before i saw the meme break lol

Crushed my heart with the valve prism. I was hopping with excitement thinking it's exactly what I've been waiting for...

I don't even use vr but I miss the quality of the newsday videos

hand tracking on quest has been lacking for a while now. thank the lord there’s finally an update

@stuffidowhenimbored2219

3 ай бұрын

congrats! you're the first comment!

@Tre1in

3 ай бұрын

@@stuffidowhenimbored2219 the only bad thing is that i sounded like a robot 💀

@stuffidowhenimbored2219

3 ай бұрын

@@Tre1in fairs

@Adam-zt4cn

3 ай бұрын

@@Tre1inI would say the opposite, a bot would say something annoyingly generic, like "First" or "Love ur content". It's refreshing to see a first comment that actually tries to be a comment.

@Llamu

3 ай бұрын

@@stuffidowhenimbored2219for me he’s no way near the first comment

i love all your vids and you got me to buy a quest 2 in 2020.i now have a quest 3 and its been cool.Thank you for doing what you do

In terms of looks, I really like Apple's approach with the opaque glass backgrounds for 2D apps, but I'd also like to somehow see skeuomorphism implemented within 2D apps. I just hope the Quest 3 can process the blur effect in real-time, because if Meta adds it - it would look so much better and would also feel more in the space. Also, they really should bring back the virtual keyboard from the Oculus home/Oculus link. To this day, it's the greatest virtual keybooard I've used.

@LG141602

3 ай бұрын

Yeah apple copied windows Vista and 7 long time ago.

@shalevhaham

3 ай бұрын

@@LG141602 ok but what does that have to do with anything?

you know it's a good day when thrill uploads a new video

I just want to add, that till this day after years of watch your channel.... I love your intro! The intro sound and coffee clip. Thanks for keeping it . Brings that branding fun to the videos.

Honestly I started falling for your Valve Prism bit because I bit the bullet and got tired of waiting for a new Valve headset this year and ordered a BSB. It would totally fit for Valve to finally announce this the moment I bought a new headset.

I can't stress enough just how much your channel boosts my hope for the future. Your channel is basically the definition of HopeCore

Where are you man?

Hahaha, perfect use for Memebreak! Thanks Thrill!

I can proudly say that I watched every single video in your Channel, starting last spring. I started as a curious viewer, then Quest 2 adopter, and now I have a monster PC and graphics card to get ready for something better than Quest 3 (maybe valve's new headset?). Thank you for all the effort you take making your channel.

For the UI, I hope they improve the apps library. Let us delete apps from the library and also let us arrange them in the order we want rather than just alphabetically or most recent.

@WillMitchellMusic

3 ай бұрын

This. Folders would be nice too.

@TheMamaluigi300

2 ай бұрын

And also the ability to unzip files from the internet. Oh and also adjusting the mic gain would be nice too, Meta!!

Genuinely my favourite vr news channel. There's just something unique about the intro music, getting some coffee made and hearing the words "it's *insert day here* Newsdayyyyy"

Multimodal mode could work really well with Shiftall's Flip VR controllers, those that have a hinge to flip up to free up your fingers. It would allow for easy switching between controller tracking and hand tracking, without having to deal with holsters.

6:20 :oo this is so cool! imagine a game where you walk around and interact with stuff with your hands, but pull out a controller or while shooting 🤔 wouldn't be that doable right now, of course, but if something like a controller holster gets popularized / comes with a headset / get sold as an official accessory, we might see stuff like this in the future. can't wait!

@Meccarox

3 ай бұрын

That’s a cool idea

Good round up, thanks Thrill!!

I love your videos!!!! Thank you!! I look forward to these every day hahaha if only you could upload everyday I’d watch

That Valve joke nearly broke my heart, lmao ! And I don't even own any PC VR headset. Was straight happy for PC crowd...and then sad for y'all

The htc vive xr elite has a multimodal mode, for example with Maestro, a controller is used for the wand and the hand tracking is used for pointing at the musicians.

The wait for your content quality is always worth it not gonna lie. Thrill and Cass & Chary are my favorites since VR pushed off more

Excellent video, great updates on the PSVR2 potential and the Quest tracking! Still waiting on that Valve info.

2:39 if meta wants to do a "controllerless" headset this would be perfect combine it with hand tracking and haptics and it would be amazing

For me the parts of the UI I love the most are seamless compatibility across tops to run concurrently especially music I love jumping in the VR putting on my favorite playlist jumping into my favorite game and rocking out

Between you and Brad you cover everything I care about with XR. Always happy to see a XDay Newsday!

Seeing how much stuff is being integrated into vr and how they could work if combined in the future is the coolest thing.

Nothing like some VR news to go with my morning cup of coffee. Definitely excited about the updates to quest!

Great, wasn’t expecting a thrilldrop but it’s nice to get one 🎉

Its always a good day when thrill uploads Keep up your great content.

Always good VR news here!

Thank you for the video.

Never have I been so excited for the future of VR as I am today, the Control Labs bracelet especially. Though I just know that I’ll have to take out a mortgage to get one.

I would love to be able to have an actual VR room that can be walked around (unlike the Quest's room) where you can set screens for things like your remote desktop and video screens. It would be awesome if it had an immediate tech demo like ping pong and if you could invite friends into your space.

Yay, newsday. Always looking forward to your news. It doesn't matter it is not weekly :)

I love your content and am exited for more vr news

I always am super excited to hear about BCI's. This is what I am going to study in college and want to go into when I finish with it.

I like it when the keyboard is able to be grabbed and moved around, like in the oculus pc software

That wrist attached bni is insane. I saw a similar device used for a entire prosthetic arm with extremely low latency.

Just bought a semi-busted quest 2 off of e-bay, bout time I upgrade from my htc vive. This video came out at the perfect time! Time to fire up the 3D print to replace some parts

nice work thrill!!!

Always good videos

I hope button inputs can be reliably emulated with the wrist band. I had this idea ever since CTRLabs showcased it, that you could scan any object like a 3d printed sword, import the model into VR, track it via optical, and use the wrist band to detect finger taps on it as virtual button inputs, and thumb movement as a virtual joystick

The Vi gloves could be good for flight sims, if you can disable interaction when the glove feels pressure you could interact with the cockpit when you let go of the stick or throttle and disable it when you're holding it. And they don't cover your fingers so that helps when pressing buttons

4:32 "The headset knows where your hands are because it knows where they aren't."

the pavr2 news is the beast and most existing news iv heard in some time

With the quest 3 when you move your windows they seem to try and curve spherically around where they think the hmd is…. I would love to be able to turn and twist my hand while moving them so that you can angle them as you want rather than how they think you should. Great video Thrill!

Somehow I always watch your vr videos so here is my sub

Gotta love sunday newsday

Valve Prism website is a prank... OR IS IT, THRILL?!?!?! I am huffing 3 tanks of Copium while thinking that Volvo had their hands in that prank website, as a prank within a prank Because the Prism is actually real and it'll definitely come to us with all those specs.... ...right?

I might just have to get that CIX Vi headset, looks comfortable

Thrill seeker where is new video :-( I miss you

I hope I'll be able to have finger movement like the Index on the Quest 3 controllers now we can use both hand and controller tracking at the same time

something like that braclet would be nice for legs aswell to enable you to walk in place and have that translated to VR

Concurrent multimodal tracking opens up tracking from 3 point to 5 point tracking! This is huge! 5 point tracking for FBT or peripherals all on a headset with two controllers. Like you said, if we get some good straps, the official possibilities just open up big time! However, would the tracking of the controllers if strapped to the legs be more limited still since they normally require inside out tracking with the cameras? Or would they be able to function more like IMUs or just gyroscopes below the waist?

@alonzoarcher6585

3 ай бұрын

I was wondering the exact same thing. Would be neat but I feel like there would be issues with regular controllers to track legs.

We need hand tracking in the oculus pc vr app! Can't believe this has not been added yet.

Even though my old HTC Vive just died on me (rip my old friend, you will be missed ;-;), I love keeping up with the VR news. Thanks for making it easy to consume, as always! ^-^

being able to use menus and move around in vrchat with the controllers but have hand tracking would be great

Hey thrillseeker, honestly, the only gripe I have with the oculus ui is the lack of convenient multi display setups. Like, I can have multiple windows open, but it’s kinda useless when one of those windows can’t be my pc. I want built in virtual desktops with separate desktops in my space, and it would be great if I could arrange the windows more freely in my space, have more freedom with the distance and sizing of the windows, and have my desktop(s) open alongside whatever else.

I hope you are doing well. If so, do you or anyone have a clue what causes the "sudden/random tracking lost" issues on the quest 3. mine seems broken, and while reseach for fixes this seems a quite common problem.

man, your weekly videos were such a routine for me, i miss them so much. but i understand your decision, take care and see you soon!

THRILLSEEKER UPLOAD THIS GONNA BE A GOOD DAY

wow the brain thing looks so cool

Hope you’re doing good Thrill

Honestly, Valve should make that headset

I know that A plain solid background UI is a lot more performant than how computationally expensive Glass like UI of the apple Vision pro can be, but I'd love to have the option when using passthrough, bc it really adds a lot of integration with the enviroment, same with floor shadows, and same with enviroment tonality

Bro i really dont care how long it takes to post a video. You are my #1 go-to for vr news and updates. I love the content and care about you and your mental health, and only wish the best for you. Thank you for taking the time to make videos for us. -Grey

@greythehyena

3 ай бұрын

Not to mention, sometimes the UI menu is super laggy when it first opens when there isnt even anything really running. (dunno if it's just me)

Not sure if you mentioned this somewhere already but what's the background game footage? Look quite fun!

honestly "prism" is such a fire name for a vr headset, extra sad it's not real

Thanks! for the few seconds of euphoria from falling in to the Valve announcement before I crashed and burned 😅😅... but other than that, great news since I already have Q3 and PS5, still not sure if it is worth it to get PSVR2, probably will keep the money for upgrading GPU

I think fora UI it'd be cool to have both static windows that stay put (like in AVP) and windows that can follow you around (like in quest). Perhaps you could choose to have a window take your headset coordinate system instead of world or something.

Saturday newsday, wow

I don't even have a VR HEADSET but I find this entertaining and interesting I plan to get one soon

Was wondering if the Sony psvr announcement has to also deal with the recent Sony vr modeling announcement.

@ThrillSeekerVR This might be a bit too much work, but he should do a shorts series for Tuesday Newsday where he explains the most important parts of it in the 60 seconds he has. For the people who don’t have time to watch the full 20 minute videos.

Ouch! That meme break got me, I’ve been out of the vr news sphere for a little.

waiting till the end to hear the track ❤‍🔥

That Meeeeeeeme Breeeak hit me right in the feels 😭

Valve prism would have been awesome tho

To the VR UI question, I just wish there was more 3D and physical movement when interacting with interfaces. I did some mock ups while I was working for Deca of having windows be cubes instead, and “draggable” items shrink into cubes when grabbed and expand back when placed and all that. Basically I just want to see the capabilities of the system taken advantage of. I think I still have some videos of those mock-ups somewhere.

The wristband video is 3 years old btw. I worked with a haptics research team in 2021 and I remember reviewing the video with the team. It's only getting traction now because Zuck mentioned it in a podcast

Imagine Walkabout Minigolf where you can see everyone's other hand! This is all I need from multimodal.

at 7:32(i forgot how to set the time thingy that you can click) how did you do that?? thats so cool

So the meta hand tracking thing is using the same technology as is used in upper limb prosthetic devices, its a set of Myoelectric sensors that detect the small electrical signals generated by muscles contracting. What they have is an array of these sensor that will probably be using AI to decode/interpret the signal being generated. There's currently a couple systems for prosthetic, that I know of, the Coapt complete control gen 2 and the Ottobock MyoPlus. It'll be really cool to see how they implement it in a consumer device, but based on the other systems it won't be that seamless, they require you to train the ai, and if the sensor placement isn't consistent, like it would be in a prosthetic socket, then you might have to do some retraining or calibration each time to put it on. Really interesting, I hope they make some of their data available so it can help improve prosthetic below elbow device control. (I've tried the more basic 2 input version where one sensor is open and the other is close for hand control and it's really cool.)

@sirdeadlock

3 ай бұрын

If it works out, that means people could have digital prosthetics to use in VR games, but it would also be an option for everyone else. And like you're getting at, the data would be backwards compatible for use with real life prosthetics. It's good when something like this can be offered to a wider market and benefit from group research. Honestly, the medical field for prosthetics and the virtual integration field for gaming have common goals.

When I heard about the PSVR2 going to be getting PC support I was excited to hear that, my theories when I first heard about it and Thrill pointed it out is to use steam link just like the quest and the more I think about it the more it would make sense. However if they managed to surprise everyone and it can just plug into a PC via an adapter or just the USB-C alone I will be sold on that

To tangent off the holster thing: it would be cool if there was small magnet in the holster, so your headset knows which hand should be tracked as soon as you put away the respective controller. I’m sure the proximity sensors can be used for detecting the change of magnetic field, so they don’t need to make any additional hardware changes; just a firmware update👌

Thanks so much for the shoutout thrill!

Maybe they will get around to fixing the issue with pass through while linked... I'm having to use tape to cover my sensor.

I love how every new video is in HDR now