I reject your hypothesis.

@HappyHighwayman

Жыл бұрын

I agree I feel the ending shows that their adventure is not over and Rick's career will be renewed.

@TheCousinEddie

Жыл бұрын

@@HappyHighwayman I believe Oscar Jordan's comment is the same made by Q.T. when that feminist tried to put him on the hot seat about the violence against women in his movies. In a hundred lifetimes I could never be that cool.

@barqsking

Жыл бұрын

@@HappyHighwayman In the novelization it is indeed renewed. Rick had a complete resurgence after he got so much attention in Hollywood.

@HappyHighwayman

Жыл бұрын

@@barqsking Thanks!

@lemorab1

Жыл бұрын

I didn't come away with this interpretation at all. Rick and Cliff will be written up as heroes in the newspapers over the next few weeks, for killing the hippie sociopaths. Both their careers will be rejuvenated, and Cliff's reputation will be restored. I think this is what the audience is supposed to come away with.

that intro of Quentin using his actual life premise to use some of that and tell a story, followed by this outstanding as you say "over analysed" take on Once Upon A Time honestly was such a smart and great use of clip. Definitely an interesting take on this film and I for one genuinely appreciate the work you put in and thank you for your perspective in which I personally would've never known about.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mario, appreciate it

@mphomagingxa7310

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@jimray2281

Жыл бұрын

Ditto!

@vvblues

Жыл бұрын

If you're an artist you need to include your reality in your art or your art is going to be pretty superficical. QT is referencing the famous Nina Simone quote about making art, even if he wasn't aware of her quote. With that said, I'm waiting for QT to chime into this thread and say, "You know nothing of my work!" There's a whole bunch of reaching going on and oh what balls to talk about someone like they're dead and can't defend themselves. Such long term talking narcissistic arrogance!

The accuracy of speculation becomes irrelevant if that speculation is well-written and done with the intent of initiating a new conversation. Whether Cliff was loosely based on Harvey or not, I appreciate the effort it took to string together so many hypotheticals in a presentable manner. Nice work on the video; I hope you find the time and motivation to make more cinema-based content.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks. Yeah since there's no way of proving this theory anyway, I wanted to make it as entertaining as possible, kind of like a Tarantino movie, so thanks for your comment. And more stuff in the works

@mikearchibald744

Жыл бұрын

Good first sentence. I didn't watch it, don't really care, just like to read the comments about film theory, and any time a new idea is brought out then thats interesting to discuss. Exercising the brain is always a good idea. If it hits on a movie I'm more interested then I'd watch it, I heard too many negatives about this movie to bother.

@jackbedient

Жыл бұрын

What Groptop said…

@Catherine_Dana

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane UR Analogy is too 🆒

@Catherine_Dana

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane Harvey Disappointed Tarantino too🎬 & we all know he uses his own painfully emotional experiences in fun🎥caricatured versions in his own unique & whimsical yet cool action driven movies🤭

I was familiar with the Manson murders, and heard a lot of people rejecting to see this film bc it idolized the murderers. However, I felt so much redemption when Rick hit them with the flame thrower. However, once the credits were rolling, it was just as you said - back to reality. And I found myself in tears because I was wishing so hard this is what would have happened. But, like you said, this was only a fantasy, temporary. The moment of redemption I felt though for those that had past was so strong. Maybe that’s why the emotional come down was also so strong. Either way, one of my favorite films of all time. I recommend reading the accompanying novel.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Yeah after all the laughter that came from the flamethrower scene, there was a strangely stunned silence in the cinema as the lights came on and people started to get up. Loved the novel!

@Khwerz

Жыл бұрын

It's like a dream in the middle of a depressive stupor.

@travismiles5885

Жыл бұрын

Tarantino spoke to Sharon Tate's sister and got her blessing. Initially she didn't want it done and he asked for a meeting and told her how Sharon was going to be portrayed in the movie. She's portrayed as a spirit, an angel, a "what might have been" and makes you wonder what we missed because she is gone. Quentin handled the scenes about Sharon perfectly. The movie didn't really idolize the Manson family. The Charles Manson character is seeing once and briefly when Brad Pitt's character is up on the roof repairing the TV antenna. The movie actually gave Tex Watson more screentime than he's ever probably gotten in any other Mattson movie

@eastcoastsailingcenter7768

Жыл бұрын

Overated

@bentnickel7487

Жыл бұрын

I was 20 y/o in 1969 and was shocked when I heard about Tate. Years later, I read that Steve McQueen was invited to that little party at Tate's, but didn't go, for some small reason. I wonder sometimes, if McQueen would have been there, if it would have happened. I know McQueen wasn't Superman, but the list of people at that party that night, were women and gays, not a real man among them to stand up to Manson's cowards. Read "Helter Skelter", one real man could have turned that murder scene, into a shouting match.

That quick cut to Walken saying "up his ass" was the highlight of this very well-done video

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

i'm glad someone gets it. You're the only person who's mentioned it!

The use of Will Smith's slap with sound effect is golden

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t resist

Quentin Tarantino offered us an alternative ending, a happy ending to one of the most horrific, vile crimes in American history. I felt good at the end, while feeling overwhelming sadness because of what really happened that fateful night in 1969. He portrays Sharon Tate as innocent, sweet and genuinely good person. It makes her brutal murder all the more painful. A great story teller.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@Shitgotmegeekin

Жыл бұрын

Let's take it easy there bud. The Manson family murders were horrific, but those events are not even near being 'the most horrific, vile crimes in American history'. You're essentially putting the murder of five people at the same level as four hundred years of slavery.

@artisaprimus6306

Жыл бұрын

@@Shitgotmegeekin let's put slavery aside for a micro second if we can. Slavery has been practiced since the dawn of time. Tribes enslaving other tribes. Civilizations of all races, by the way. I'm talking about the horrible slaughter of five innocent people, but mostly about Sharon Tate and her unborn child. Hippies professed to be about peace and love. It was a lie then and it's a lie today. I lived thru those events myself. What's worse is leftist morons in CA decided to abolish the death penalty. So, the relatives of the victims have to watch these animals ask for parole for decades now. Being forced to fight to keep these lunatics in prison. Sharon Tate and her unborn child aren't leaving their graves, so they don't deserve to be breathing, much less free. But, the Hippies of the sixties became the leftist politicians of the 70s and 80s. So, Sharon Tate has to be victimized again and again. CA took an extreme left turn and it's a colossal dumpster fire today.

@Shitgotmegeekin

Жыл бұрын

@@artisaprimus6306 Ok so you're an idiot, thanks for clearing that up

@pinealdreams1064

Жыл бұрын

@@Shitgotmegeekin Slavery WASNT A CRIME. It was legal. Also, can we cut the bullshit narrative that slavery began in America and handn't been part of pretty much every culture in history. Terrible yes, but this one-sided historical coverage is ridiculous.

There was a stuntman named Shorty Shea. He went to Sphan Ranch and was murdered. So seeing Cliff drive off was a relief and a small Once Upon a Time like the larger Once Upon a Time in the end. It is a story in a story, an inclusio. Quinton takes this technique one step further with Cliffs flashback (the boat)within a flashback (Bruce Lee). Brilliant.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

i hadn't thought about the flashback within a flashback, that's funny. The kind of thing another director would perhaps be reticent about doing

As a video essay creator, seeing new channels spring up like this and nail it is always inspiring. Great work on this, can't wait to see what else you put out!

KZread needs to make a second like button because this video deserves it! Nice vid

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks Keith, appreciate it

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is one my favorite films At the end of the movie a lot of the older audience members stayed seated, eyes on the screen. So did I, you see on the screen Sharon is talking to Rick and going back up her driveway, never meeting the murderers, never brutally suffering the lost of her baby and her life. Sharon is alive and has the rest of her promising life to live. I believe that I, and the others who stayed seated were wishing this was the real ending of the movie, that evil didn't find her that fateful night. We were all in our sixties or seventies and we knew how it ended. But for just a brief, magical moment, this was the ending, Sharon had lived. I read Helter Skelter when I was 10 years old (we were all big readers in my family and my parents did't often censor our reading material)and it struck a deep chord within me. This beautiful girl and her baby were gone because a mentally ill man had a thought in his head and decided some one should die.

@squaaaaak3178

Жыл бұрын

Let's not blame mental illness for this. Please. Mentally ill people are much more likely to be victims than perpetrators. It may make people feel good to think that this kind of thing is perpetrated by so-called mentally ill people, but it's far from reality. evil exists. people just like you do things like this. deal with it. Don't scapegoat an entire population.

@annabell3385

Жыл бұрын

You should read CHAOS by Tom O'NEill. It is better than Helter Skelter. Also, The Family by Ed Sanders. Vincent Bugliosi was a bit corrupt.

@janmarchand7294

Жыл бұрын

@@annabell3385 Thanks, I'll look for it.

@curtisknightfish7686

Жыл бұрын

@@annabell3385 totally agree

@curtisknightfish7686

Жыл бұрын

@@janmarchand7294 you really should if you’re interested in the case. Everything they told the American public was a lie.

I love this movie and I appreciate your take on it. You described Margot Robbie’s portrayal of Sharon Tate perfectly. It’s hard to watch her when you know what is going to happen to her.

@john2914

Жыл бұрын

What happened to her? They did not kill her in this movie.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

she's fine. still alive

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks. It was an effective choice to include her so much. She could have easily existed offscreen but with less impact

@johncahill3644

Жыл бұрын

@@john2914 Yeah, but you don’t know that watching the movie...

@mszuzubookitty4646

Жыл бұрын

Sharon Tate was brutally murdered and had her baby cut out of her. Don’t confuse awful truth with this hollywood made up stuff.

i always find that the extremely detailed well made and interesting video analyses have so little views and not nearly enough attention. seriously man this is a great video and made me rethink the entire movie

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks! plenty of things to think about. As i said in the beginning, it's a movie about many things, and this is just one interpretation

@actionscott8033

Жыл бұрын

26k in 8 days is pretty good. I’m sure it will grow over the years.

This is some next-level insight. I don't know if it's accurate but you made a lot of thought provoking points. Something else you made, a fan. Subscribed!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

yeah could be totally wrong but asking the questions is fun. Thanks!

@drpearlmantv6357

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane well done ! Fun and interesting video ! Got me thinking

@brindlebucker4741

Жыл бұрын

Yep. This is what's important. This is a perspective. It doesn't have to be correct, but if it gets you talking intelligently about things, that's what's important. There's too much immediate shouting nowadays, not enough considered arguments and rebuttals. And this is EXACTLY what art is good for. I have had this discussion so many times in my lifetimes in different forms and forums. Art holds a mirror up, yes. But the mirror is always different depending who's holding it and how they tilt it. Being able to consider different interpretations for a work of art and how the work relates to reality is exactly the positive thing that art adds to life. Art gets you thinking. Comparing. Considering. Exploring lines of thought. Debating. That HAS to be a good thing.

@dixonhill1108

8 ай бұрын

Completely missed it, Brad pitt plays the same character as he does in fight club. He's the insecure man's version of a better him. Like the real brad pitt, he has no creative ability. He's the meat, while Quintin is the artist. Brad is the only one who physically confronted weinstein . @@rmacfarlane

Outstanding Mr MacFarlane… stick around. These essays are as good as any I’ve seen in 10 years. Well done.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thank you sir! appreciate it

I actually like this analysis so much. There are so much other theories about what this film could’ve been based on. But this video seems the most likely. Tarantino wrote a tragedy based on the real-life eventual tragedy of his friendship with Harvey. Also props to such a well made video for a channel under 1K subs!👏

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks very much. Approaching 1k subs as I'm writing this. Appreciate the support. I will say I think this film is about five or more different things, each one deserving its own essay. This is just the topic I was most intrigued by

The third time I saw the movie, when Sharon's voice comes over the intercom, for some reason hit me the hardest, and I got teary-eyed. I was watching it with a friend who hadn't seen it yet. He turned to me after the scene where Sharon goes to see her movie and said "I can't do it. I can't watch her die....". I just said something vaguely reassuring. Tarantino did his job with the innocence and optimism that she represented. I didn't see the end as the end of their friendship though. Maybe it changed, maybe it was revitalized. Who knows, I mean Rick still had Brandy, and we know Cliff wasn't leaving her behind.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

you're a good friend

This video was quite good! It was in my recommended and after watching it, I was expecting your following to be huge. Your analysis was great and the quality/ structure made for a pleasant watch. I know this channel will blow up in the next few months

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Grace! Hopefully this is the worst video i will ever make. Glad you appreciated the structure, i always think that's the most important part

First time hearing this take - you definitely made a convincing argument. As you said, I don’t know how deliberate it was on Tarantino’s part, but I can see it as a subconscious catharsis. 👍

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think it’s most likely a sort of intuitive working through of emotions that worked it’s way into late rewrites of the script

This was the most in depth interpretation of how tarantinos mind works! AMAZING

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Cody

What a really fresh perspective on the film , enjoyed your take and now I’ve got to give this film another view ! I’d also like to see a future topic on Japanese cinemas influence on American directors I know of so obvious ones like George Lucas but would love a deep dive into the industry as a whole and if that’s continued into modern times or has faded with the years . Great work and you’ve got a new subscriber for sure !

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Well thanks. Yeah I don't know much about that myself but a good opportunity to do some research. I was thinking about doing a video on Takeshi Kitano's Hana-Bi (Fireworks) because I was so blown away by it when I watched it a few months ago. It's clearly got a lot of references to Hollywood cop films/film noir so might look at it that way. But yeah talking a look at Japanese influence on American directors is a good idea. Let me know if you have any suggestions of films to look at

An intriguing supposition, well told. I look forward to your next one.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

@heatherlynn2695

Жыл бұрын

very cool take!

I was so excited to see this movie and found it provocative. I was not expecting it to literally be a fairytale of Hollywood.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

haha funny neither was I. I assumed it was more of a play on the Leone films. But tarantino definitely embraced the fairytale

@stellamartinez8361

Жыл бұрын

To be frank, this movie is ultimately in bad taste. The subject is too horrible to turn into a mockery.

@jesustovar2549

Жыл бұрын

@@stellamartinez8361 Tarantino had already changed history in Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained.

@stellamartinez8361

Жыл бұрын

@@jesustovar2549 Didn't see either of those.

looked down at your sub list and figured it was 887K, not 887! Well done man. This channel will go far.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Only had 36 subs a few days ago

You have a very unique way to interpret films, I'm subscribing because I want to see your takes about Hitchcock and the Godfather trilogy, I hope you don't let me down!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Oh thanks!

Very interesting! I think you're right. As usual it's a very layered story. I love that. So many things happening at the same time. One thing I also noticed, as with all T's movies, was the nod to how violent TV and cinema was in the 70s. It was just straight up about fist fights and shooting people.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks! I don't know if I'm write but thought it was worth exploring. Very layered indeed and you could make ten videos about its various meanings. Interesting point about violent tv. I wonder if we've become more sensitive to depictions of violence as we've become more isolated from it

one of the better videos i’ve ever seen from a sub 2000 subscriber account. really. well done. the hypothesis is irrelevant. great work.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

Dude this is an absolutely BRILLIANT observation! Fantastic job on this video! Wow🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Derek! Glad you liked it

This movie really moves me because I identify so much with the central friendship. I became estranged from my brother a few months after the release of this film, and have always considered my best friend of 17 years my brother. I feel like I’m often Rick to his Cliff. I was born a little more fortunate; but I’m a mess, a drinker, hopelessly insecure, unstable with romantic relationships. He “carries my load” to borrow a line from the film. Blue collar, born in a small town, became a father young, married with four kids. Lives a very modest life. And we live across Michigan from each other. But there’s a serious understanding between us and we help each other in the ways we can. You seldom see male friendships portrayed so realistically or deeply on film. We may not look like DiCaprio and Pitt but I found a lot of us in it. I can’t reject your theory since it’s well analyzed, and well evidenced. I still find it a deep, moving treatise on friendship in the way that Jackie Brown is a masterpiece about growing old.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

fascinating. i agree, the friendship makes this movie so compelling

This video was awesome, I just watched this movie around the same time you put this video out. I will say, the more I think about the movie and the more perspectives I see about it, the more I love it, I mean I just feel overwhelmed with the personality this film has. It feels like a movie that was made a long time ago, it makes me want to rewatch it again, and I saw it not more than a week ago 😂😂

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Christian. and i agree, it keeps getting better

Really enjoyed this video. Makes me look at the movie in a whole different way than I did before. Great Work

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Stevie

12:46 daaamn man you really are solid in your discussions ; and editing . Fantastic job . I love overanalyzing . Wish I could help somehow

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks dude. Well what skills/talents do you have? Will always need help on future propjects

Great f****** video. The editing was so concise and humorous and spot on it was brilliant. When I saw this movie knowing what happened to Sharon Tate it is exactly as you describe they were on a collision course and it was building suspense and it dread in my heart. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was the only movie I've ever seen where I felt like I was saved at the end of it. It was an amazing and remarkable cinamatic experience for me. I really enjoyed your theory and over analyzation deep dive into it. I can't say if Quentin would agree but what I can say for sure is that everyone gets an A on the Rorschach test so you saw what you saw and you convinced me to see it now too with your artistic over analyzation writing and editing skills. Thanks for being you. You earned this sub homie.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks unc, glad you like it. Yeah I think the ending is why the film is so beloved. And I think Tarantino put a lot of his feelings into that ending, that then resonates with up. Appreciate the sub.

@unclebuddha

Жыл бұрын

How did you know my screen name is uncle Buddha? Or was that random as hell?

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Haha just clicked on your profile and it said so

fantastic work. always thought it was a character study and empty. i will revisit it based on this

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thank you!

Amazing video. One of the best I've ever seen. The only thing I don't agree very much is the 21:23 "We should be viligant about our heroes". I mean, yeah, Weinsten of course deserves jail, but if we're going to be vigilant of people's minor mistakes like, what they said, or if they got drunk, or the costume someone wore in a halloween party 20 years ago, then no one would be innocent. Even you and me. Once again, great analysis, video and voice. Chapeau

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Sebastian. And I agree, vigilance must come in the form of an honest assessment, not an unrealistic standard

Really solid Ross, great job! Throughly compelling and entertaining. Subscribed

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Tom! More to come

One of the few movies I can always rewatch and be amazed by details and intent for greatness.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

many levels to it for sure

Amazing vid with deep analysis. Really interesting, I couldn’t help but think a lot similar things when I first seen it. Definitely Tarantino’s most Meta (hate that word) film. What have you got against theme park rides? :)

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

haha nothing against theme parks apart from I didn't enjoy disneyland paris much. Don't like "theme park movies" as Scorsese called them. And thank you for the feedback, glad you saw some of this on first viewing as well. Nobody else I've talked to has

@Sekir80

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane Oh, so you disclosed it here! My thought went to Scorsese when I heard the theme park line. So, this is the first video I watched on your channel. Given its quality it's very likely it won't be the last!

Great video and great work. I personally do not agree with the hypothesis that you've shown here but I also admired how can you gives us well written ideas with great arguments. This video made me think a lot of what I've seen on the screen. Well done, this kind of work and views are so important to see and make movies meaningful

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks very much, glad you liked it, not offended you don't agree as long as you were sufficiently entertained

Brilliant video. Have subscribed. Hope to see your channel grow exponentially!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It’s already gone crazy by my standards

The most intriguing part of this interpretation (which you've skipped over, by the way) is that the "new approach" exemplified by Rick's acceptance into the Sharon Tate household is still infested with a snake in Roman Polanski, just as the "Me, Too" movement came with its own demons. Fascinating stuff. Not sure I buy the whole premise, but it's an interesting way to look at things!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Yes I spent a lot of time thinking over how to interpret the implications of what happens next. Couldn’t quite figure it out. It seems to me that there’s a bit of domino theory at work - without the grief of his wife having been murdered, Polanski would never have raped a 13 year old in Jack Nicholsons hot tub, thus preserving the idyllic vision of New Hollywood. But yes definitely open to interpretation. I think Polanski claims he was driven to his behaviour out of grief and distress. Sounds like some convenient bullshit to me but who really knows

@lizpie4659

Жыл бұрын

I just saw this I hope you get more subscribers this is so well done. My take is that Roman wanted a wife and a family and had that come to fruition, he would have been home enjoying his family life instead of prowling for sex.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

@@lizpie4659 thank you! Yeah depends on how optimistic you are about humanity I suppose. Certainly could be

@ignatiusjackson235

Жыл бұрын

@@lizpie4659 That "family man" bullshit is a complete farce. Roman would have just had more cover. I do agree, however, that this video deserves way more views.

@codeXenigma

Жыл бұрын

@@lizpie4659 No way do people become sex predators because they suffer grief of a loved one. That is gross that he would try to use that as an excuse. Dirty perverts do it because they disrespect others, for all we know he could of done the same to his own daughter had she lived.

I have thought this since the day it came out. Love this movie. I think it's a masterpiece. But I always said, this is the story of him and Harvey. They had a long career together, and people constantly asked him why he worked with him, and he'd have to defend him. Thank you for putting it into an essay

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

cool! that makes two of us. Yeah I think there has to be a personal motor driving any major artistic work, something that motivates you through it

This is outstanding and a really fresh take on the movie. Keep these up. 👍🏻👍🏻

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks James. mr2 looks nice

BRAVO! I feel like I never really "got" this movie beyond just enjoying the awesome performances and sequences but this video really puts things into context.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad I could help

Wow what a phenomenal video. Even just the editing too was very engaging. Great analysis, I watched it for the first time recently and loved it. Can’t believe this is such a small channel!!! I had no idea from watching the video lol The point about Rick being the hero makes me so sad but honestly your analysis makes this all seem so logical. His version of himself in the movie is the idealized Hollywood hero same way cliff is. Love the idea, great great video again haha

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Oh thanks dude, I appreciate it. Yeah it’s just me and lots of coffee. Glad you enjoyed it

Once upon a Time in Hollywood is still my favorite movie by Quentin Tarantino!! 🎥 The dialogue has been the most quoted of his movies. The music and the style is just beyond perfect!!! 🖤💙🖤

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

i think its no 2 for me. Basterds 1

@BlueDodgerman

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane Basterds is a Jews wet dream, and is only held up by first 20 mins of cinematic genius

Incredible video with plausbile ideas, Ross. I can clearly see your love for Tarantino's work. I hope to see more videos from your channel!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks! More coming

can't believe you only have 290 subs. I hope soon more of thomas flight/like stories of old audience discovers your work and your channel blows up!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Kartik. Yeah started out with 36 when i released this video so even to have 389 8 days later is mad

Wow. That was absolutely incredible. I don't even have words. ❤

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

you're too kind

Following on your idea, Tarantino sparing Uma Thurman’s daughter by having her back out of the murders could be a cinematic atonement to Uma Thurman for how she was assaulted by Weinstein.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

I did not even know that was Uma Thurman's daughter!

@harryom3497

7 ай бұрын

​@@rmacfarlaneMaya hawk

This was good. I enjoyed your view Ross. Thanks for the content.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Randy

This is very good would love to see your OVERANALYSIS of different movies or shows

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks, working on it

Very nice work! I would love to see an essay on Magnolia.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks. I would have to figure out what the hell magnolia means first. Love it but have no idea why all the pieces fit together. Currently working on There Will Be Blood for episode 2

Well that was worth my time. You’ve done a man’s work!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks. Quite literally took months so appreciate that you enjoyed it

....and i´m hooked. Waiting for the next. Greetings from good ole Europe.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin. We used to be in Europe too 😂

I LOVED this over-analysis 😂❤ Will be watching again.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thank you!

This feels like the perspective I was missing. When I first saw the movie I loved it. A master of the craft doing some of hist best work, obviously. Great actors giving great performances. Hardly anything to criticize. Even the shtick of retelling history in a fairy tale and giving the defining tragedy of the Hollywood that Tarantino obviously loves the happy ending he was longing for. That's such a Tarantino thing to be doing. He even meticulously recreates the Hollywood of the era as he remembers it; essentially showing it to us through the eyes of someone who is deeply in love with that dream of Hollywood, which fits so well within the fairy tale structure. And he brings in the heroes he remember from that time in Hollywood to do the actual rewriting. Allowing the best version of Hollywood to defend itself from the worst that the world outside imposed upon it. It all really works. However; there are themes in the movie that doesn't connect with any of that. The themes of a friendship/relationship coming to an end and moving on with your life. Those don't really connect to anything else in the story. Not that they have to, but they feel kinda incidental to everything else that's going on. It's also interesting to note that the Acting scene, where Rick realizes that he's outgrown his dependency on Cliff, is followed immediately by Rick visiting the symbolic version of the Hollywood he remembers from the past. Him finding it all changed into something he cannot get along with works quite well within your analysis. It's very much like Rick and Cliff are sorta inhabiting different versions of Hollywood at this point.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

that's a very interesting symbolic connection, i didn't notice that

@johansmallberries9874

Жыл бұрын

I posit that the themes about a Hollywood career in its twilight might mirror Quentins much talked about plan to stop making movies soon.

I was ready to binge watch a collection of years worth of video documentaries you’ve made until you said this was your first. Damn

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Haha more to come

@twilso12

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane looking forward to it, keep up the good work

Really great analysis, and I think it holds some merit! Wonderful video :)

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I thought this was excellent. So thought provoking. I've subscribed. Please make more. I'll watch. 💓

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

Brilliant interpretation! I thought I was the only one who saw that. Cliff, Quentin and myself are all in the twilight of once great careers. Looking back and letting go... What a departure from - Men in tights masquerading as heroes in amusement park movies that are masqueraded as cinema. Scorsese fully agrees.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Tom

It’s a shame we’re never going to get that Netflix extended version… That was announced back in 2019 and nothing has happened since. 😞

@timwillocks4695

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is a shame. However there is an extended directors cut on DVD.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

oh cool i didn't know that. I even have a dvd copy, might be that one

@timwillocks4695

Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed your video and hypothesis thoroughly intriguing indeed. For me this film is QT's best work, since watching it I cant get enough of it the characters the back story the whole nine yards. I dont know what it is about this film but I have to agree with what other people have said about wanting to see more of Cliff, Rick and Sharan however we are left with utter sadness knowing how it really ends.

Very interesting, I particularly like the way you’d put this scenario together. Yes, there will be haters, the truth has a way of bringing them to the surface. Keep up the good work. Warmest regards from your latest subscriber

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks mate!

Very good video essay. Will follow you for more! I'll definetely share it with the rest of our team.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks! High praise coming from you guys

This is a very interesting video, thank you for taking the time to make it. Since the scandal started, I assumed that kill bill, and to some extent Death Proof, was also about Harvey Weinstein, perhaps a covert denounciation of his behavior towards women by a man who knew him from the inside. Do you think this could be possible, if Once a Time is indeed an admission by Tarantino that he was blinded by friendship ?

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

hey, thanks for watching. I have never thought about that but I suppose it could be possible

@if6was929

Жыл бұрын

"blinded by friendship?" He was not at all blinded, his eyes were wide open. Tarantino knew and chose to ignore, its no more complicated than that. To Quentin Tarantino, his career was more important than the safety of Weinstein's victims. He found it easy to "downplay" the rumors because it wasn't his own daughter who was abused! Tarantino loves to make movies that display a revisionist perspective on historical events, as if his own fantasy is that he'd have the courage to right the wrongs perpetrated by evil men. Maybe Quentin's next movie will be a fantasy retelling of Weinstein's crimes where he plays the hero who catches Harvey mid-rape and beats him to a pulp! Now wouldn't that be ironic!

@squirrelsyrup1921

Жыл бұрын

@@if6was929 Maybe he can make a movie about Poltergeist and what happened to the very young actress on that feature, who died from her injuries. Considering Spielberg for a moment, the man's own adopted daughter is now a s*x worker (he has gone on record saying he is proud of her), and his sister wrote "Big", that Tom Hanks comedy where a child has relations with a grown adult woman who knows he is really a child. What on earth goes on in that family? Plenty of people have suggested that Stanley Kubrick was k*lled by the Bohemian Grove elite because he revealed too much about what goes on in Hollywood when he filmed Eyes Wide Shut. The film was then given to Spielberg, and about 1hr of footage never made it into the final movie. There's an excellent set of articles by Tiffany Fitzhenry about what happens inside Disney, too.

I think the film is a lament for the loss of an era of a certain kind of traditional, strong masculinity that arguably started to become less fashionable in the late 60s - and the kind that may have arguably saved Sharon Tate, hence the Once Upon A Time... angle. The film, at least the way it's portrayed, shows the crossroads between the old school masculinity(on the downslope) & the emergence of a softer, weaker version that was coming in to the culture. There are all kinds of indications of this throughout the film: the Rick Dalton character constantly coming apart & questioning himself with all of his doubts & insecurities, the Steve MacQueen('I never stood a chance') party scene where they discuss Sharon's preferences in men(boyish), the emergence of the hippies, & the males(all boyish & ineffectual) that Sharon Tate was surrounded by in her entourage at her home. The film, especially at the climax, seems to suggest to me that if there were more traditionally masculine(re:tougher) men like Cliff Booth(who represents that older era of masculinity) around her at the time, that the tragedy could have been avoided altogether.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks for your analysis, Newton. Interesting theory. I'm not quite sure what I think about that. If that's the case what do you make of the fact that Cliff doesn't join Rick and Sharon Tate? It seems to me that Rick's future is to be very successful, while Cliff will return to his life in a trailer if he ever makes it out of the hospital. If Cliff is the paragon of masculinity, I would expect him to have a rosier ending than that. Let me know what you think

@newtonsurmiser2319

Жыл бұрын

​@@rmacfarlane Hi Ross, but that's exactly it - what used to pass as the paragon of masculinity is no longer appreciated. Cliff is carted away in an ambulance at the end, it's filmed almost comedically, while Rick gets the accolades & is invited to Sharon's home. That's the sad truth & the way forward in the film. It shows precisely the disregard for his type of old school masculinity & how little it is now valued. His good actions not only go unrewarded, they are barely acknowledged by most of the other characters. The Cliff Booth character is an interesting one. Most of the time he is portrayed as a bit of a side joke. He is either sidelined, ignored or denigrated in the film by everyone around him, going about menial tasks or chores, ignored by most people, treated as a backup to Rick, relegated to living in a trailer (Rick lives in a nice home high up in the hills) - in a way it sums up perfectly where Cliff's brand of masculinity is positioned in that era. Even his own friend, Rick, barely seems to appreciate him because he is so preoccupied with his own insecurities. Cliff is largely quiet(strong & silent type of the old era) most of the time but is the one who takes action at key points in the film. When, in his friend George's defense, he deals with the hippies at the farm, he puts them in their place. When they come to Rick's home with intent to kill, he deals with them in the same manner. He will not have the rosier ending though, exactly because his style of masculinity is on the way out & goes largely unappreciated for what it can offer.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Ah I see. Interesting take. Definitely something I need to think over. The cool thing is that this film is clearly about many things, and many different interpretations can be made that seem perfectly valid. Cliff is certainly the most interesting character, and I think the key to exploring almost any of the films themes

@benjaminvelitchkov5694

Жыл бұрын

Hey Newton, I think this is a really interesting take, I didn't really look at it like that before but interestingly enough in a podcast with Marc Maron I believe Tarantino makes a remark that men like Charles Bronson were so manly and they're the type of man you will never see again in cinema in fact I believe he said " Charlize Theron is more of a Charles Bronson than any male actor today, and she's a woman". He furthers the thought by explaining many of the masculine men from those times didn't choose they're behavior rather it was cultivated by the very tough lives they lived like serving in wars and what not and how that kind of man no longer exists and if he does he won't be seen on screen again and hasn't been since. One last little thing is in a trailer/feature or interview (I can't remember which tbh) DiCaprio pretty much explains his character in the movie as you did. Something to the effect of "Rick Dolton is an old school cowboy actor who's being replaced by the times where more androgynous types were taking the lime light".

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminvelitchkov5694 interesting, I'd forgotten about that

Wow well thought of video. Great use of clips. Great use of the word overanalyze. I like I give a different perspective to the movie. I would even say the movie became better for me after watching this video.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks very much, that's high praise

Amazing job, well done! Looking forward to the next one!

@rmacfarlane

Ай бұрын

Thanks! It’s slow progresse but working on it when I can

It's about art. And Tarantino almost having fully lost his mind.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

I think it's about that and lots of other things

@joed2818

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane Art. An ode to movies. Drugs. A love letter to the 60s. Also Hollywood. Feet. Bruce Lee and hippies. But mostly art and the deterioration of the director's own sanity.

So Harvey and Quentin being great friends makes that picture of him sitting at on a couch with a girls foot in his mouth and the length from the ankle to the knee was like 8 inches make so much more sense now.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

don't have a clue what you're on about

I really like your unique breakdown - bravo 🙌 for giving a new perspective

WOW! Amazing analysis. Such remarkable insight... connecting dots. Thank you.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

@ALL-VOICE-NO-BRAKES

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane ...let me be clear; I don't necessarily agree with ALL your points, but I find your ability to uncover relationships between ideas, thought provoking, fresh and original. More, please.

@ALL-VOICE-NO-BRAKES

Жыл бұрын

I think QT would enjoy seeing this.

Keep doing this, do not give up (sorry for the cringe comment)

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, wasn’t going to anyway but appreciate it

Great stuff. Good music too. Really good perspective. Don’t bother with Marvel, stick to the interesting films. Well made. Encore!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks professor. Enough of this superhero crap. Lots of really good actors are wasting their time wearing capes

@Zed-fq3lj

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane Liked your different perspective on this Tarantino's movie (perhaps the last great movie before industry drowned in superhero and woke garbage heap), but THIS comment of yours was the thing that made me subscribe and wish you all the best!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

@@Zed-fq3lj thanks Zed. Its frustrating that we've missed out on great movies/performances over the last decade+ because a lot of talent has been sucked up by the Disney machine, all so they can make money off of a captured Chinese audience. Think Chris Evans in Knives Out, Mark Ruffalo in Dark Waters, or Robert Downey Jr in anything. Imagine what we could have had instead

You and I definitely watched the same movie. Appreciate someone taking the time to articulate these ideas.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

aw that's good to know. thought i was crazy for a while, haha

The cowboy hero idea @13:50 is such a good point

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

i'm not sure i can claim to take credit for it but i will agree that the more you think about it the more true it seems

Here before this explodes

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

That’s quite the vote of confidence haha

The movie is a masterpiece. Really not one bad scene. My fav Tarentino movie.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this or basterds for me

great video. very entertaining, great writing, and great editing. subbed. more plz

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks buddy

As a casual film watcher who had only seen 3 of his films and someone who watched this movie without any prior knowledge of the Manson murders, I will admit I was initially, slightly underwhelmed by the movie. I was expecting expecting a way flasher movie but it ended up being a more subdued film about (like you mentioned), a movie actor struggling to adapt to the changing times but that wasn't the problem, I quite enjoyed that storyline! What I found really out of place was the total annihilation of the Manson family members, which while extremely fun to watch, felt shoehorned in a movie whose narrative didn't require that kind of scene. I'd just brushed it off as Tarantino's desire to add violence in everything. Finally, after watching this video, after finally understanding the full context behind the movie, the doubts I had in my mind regarding the movie has been reduced. I now have a better understanding of what goes on in his head and It has helped me understand the complex nature of his filmstyle a bit better and I appreciate it a lot, so thank you for making this video!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

oh i take that as quite high praise, thank you very much. Ultimately the Manson family annihilation as you put it is just good old cathartic retribution. Still not sure I've heard an audience laugh that much

Fantastic analysis - the weinstein angle coupled with the portrayal of masculinity and innocence are the key themes of this film It's all done with such wonderful humanity as is the hallmark of tarrantino's work

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks! I've never quite identified masculinity itself as a key theme but it's very interesting that so many people here have. Speaks to where we're at

@domhuckle

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane to be honest, I didn't see the masculinity theme until I watched your video, but there must be something there - you've got 2 aging cowboys almost being mothballed and Dean Martin actually commenting on it himself Maybe there's some commentary on the nature of innocence and violence too - for Sharon tate to live liberated, you need others who are prepared for the violence that may come?

Casting Brad Pitt and Leo DiCaprio is the best thing Tarantino has ever done in his whole career as a director, he was able to cast them both to have a good chemistry on the set. Moreover, Once upon a time in Hollywood is a love letter towards Hollywood classic from the late 60's, which he did very well.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Agreed 1000%

@sebastianalegria3401

Жыл бұрын

@@rmacfarlane Do you think Brad Pitt was the real movie's star despite the fact he was the supporting actor?

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

You could argue that. He’s arguable a bigger ‘star’ than anyone else in the movie. Bit of a toss up between him and dicaprio. I don’t think you can make a case that he’s the main character though. It’s all Ricks struggle, ricks development, and how Rick changes

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

yeah they are great together

🤩 Wow! Unparalleled analysis to ignite our thinking while incorporating our own experience to find the meaning of life 🙏🏆👏

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

Insightful n well-crafted. Kudos.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

Good try, but no.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough

@klenmcrock5265

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was good.

@RealRoknRollr3108

Жыл бұрын

Good try and yes

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

@@RealRoknRollr3108 😂

@RockSmith-rl9qr

Жыл бұрын

Great try and YUP

Wow, what a beatiful video! Smart, pleasant and all-around amasing job. I disagree on the ending, but that doesn't matter. As many has said - having a different thoughts about this is great for a converaation. Looking forward to seeing more vids from you.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thank you!

Really awesome breakdown...and the alligory of the movie you explained make a lot of sense

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks

Well done! Loved this movie so much but your analysis was well thought-out. The Uma Thurman connection with her daughter is an interesting point too, from the other commenter.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks. Yeah I didn't even know that

This seems to answer the “why is he showing us all this” feeling I had during the long second act. At the time I thought it was the “because I can” attitude you see in some of his other films (jackrabbit slims for instance). Somehow it felt more meaningful, and I think you have a very good theory as to why. Great analysis.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

that's a really excellent point, i hadn't thought of that, probably because I didn't have that experience. But there is a question of "why now?" with regards to this particular story. I assumed it was to do with Hollywood straining under the weight of streaming, and it may be in part about that. But yours is an excellent point.

Great video 👌 From the analysis to the music and editing

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

This is an EXCELLENT analysis/interpretation of OUATIH. Glad this popped up in suggestions, just subscribed & looked forward to more. As far as suggestion: after watching this video, I think you would really appreciate one of my personal semi-obsessions, BASIC INSTINCT. Class warfare, doppelgängers separated only by wealth, and of course male fear of their objects of desire being utterly beyond their control.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Kirk. I actually just watched Basic Instinct for the first time recently. Quite enjoyed it

I rather enjoyed this video essay. It's an interesting take & presentation which is well supported. Does what it should; challenge the viewer to either strongly consider your impressions or formulate our own. Bravo! 👏

@thingshappen4062

Жыл бұрын

I also believe that much of this can be equally said about QTs relationships with producer Lawrence Bender (after their split QTs movies become really different, more sprawling and weighted down with scenes that should be DVD extras) and longtime pal, Roger Avary (this relationship has only recently been publically rekindled. QT owes more than Pulp credit to Roger, who I consider to be more imaginative).

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks for the kind words. i would love to know more about his relationships with Lawrence Bender and Roger Avary. I haven't come across any juices details

Really nice video to watch. Since this is just a theory it’s a really interesting view on the movie. Keep em comin ✌🏻

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks, more coming soon!

Subbed. Your channel will grow fast if you keep up this level of quality. Nice.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Aaron

wow, this was great. whether accurate or not, this was a great video, great theory and i will be bringing this up to my fellow tarantino enthusiasts to gather a consensus lol. but i very much loved this, keep it up man!!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks! let me know what they think

Excellent work. I'm Clark from Emily and Clark's Adventure. I also had an early video that did really well. I see this in your work. Now is the time to put your all into your work, you will go far.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks, that's the plan!

This is really well done. Looking forward to seeing more!

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Chris. More coming

There’s only a couple of leaps in logic in there, but it’s so well done that I can’t help but think anything else about the film now. What a newfound respect for the depth this brings to a film I thought really let me down in its indictment of Hollywood.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Jay

Dude that was deep. Great job. And how could I not make it to the end when I didn't want it to end. Keep em coming

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

thanks Jeremy. Working on another one now

I didn't even pay attention to the sub count when I click the video. I just assumed I was watching a channel with atleast 50,000 subs. Awesome video man.

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks, glad you enjoyed. I’ll be lucky to get to 100 at this rate

@RockSmith-rl9qr

Жыл бұрын

@Ross MacFarlane never stop over analyzing movies. That's why they make them. Especially people like Tarantino

@rmacfarlane

Жыл бұрын

Will do. Working on episode 2 just now