There's one really important point that people seem to be missing here. The Q5 used in the BMW X3 vs Q5 video, employs a mechanical centre differential (Torsen C). Mechanical differentials typically require a longer reaction time for torque transfer. In this video, the presenters use a Q3, which does not employ a mechanical centre differential. Instead, the Q3 uses a haldex (viscous) differential, which, in its current iteration, has a faster reaction time than the Torsen C for torque transfer. In this case, the X1, albeit in a slightly different configuration, uses similar viscous technology, hence both cars performed nearly identically. Finally, they should have been using winter tires. The Q3 is actually a front transverse layout, and FWD biased. So, when the rears were spinning, the fronts already had 50% torque, plus a front heavy design = more weight over the front wheels, and less slip on the slush that appears to be on the ramp. I owned a Tiguan 4motion for 4 years, it's identical to the Q3 in all things mechanical, so I'm fairly familiar with how the system performs. Finally, both systems aren't designed for off road use. And both systems require that electronic controls are on and functioning as designed in order for torque transfer to work as designed. Hence, both systems are compromised, and suitable for on-road conditions. ...and there really is no replacement for proper tires, I don't care which AWD or 4WD system your car employs.

@darekmackow9799

2 жыл бұрын

Witamy w schowku Gboard. Tu będzie przechowywany każdy tekst, który skopiujesz.

@lihlesasa6236

Жыл бұрын

And the BMW is RWD based.

Уважаемые а укажите пожалуйста размерности установленых резин на автомобилях во время теста? Визуально диаметр шин на АУДИ больше Диаметра шин БМВ, вследствии этого на одинаковых роликах колеса проваливаются на разную глубину и для "выезда" требуется преодолеть различные углы. у АУДИ колеса больше - угол кокторый требуется преодолеть для вызволения задних колес меньше. у БМВ колеса меньше - угол больше. заглубите колеса на половину в ролики и вас только краном вывезут!

@Peridiello

2 жыл бұрын

The diameter of tires is the key

@severnikich2010

2 жыл бұрын

Любитель бмв нашел оправдание 🤣

@kasiula4435

2 жыл бұрын

@@severnikich2010 mam Audi a też widze różnice w rozmiarach alumów czy opon... Nie widze w ogóle sensu porównywania jakichkolwiek aut pod jakimkolwiek kątem.

@brandbmw6642

Жыл бұрын

@@severnikich2010 вот тебе и оправдание. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqqls9d8j5u8orA.html

@hariaxarrisaf1492

Жыл бұрын

@@severnikich2010 А что оправдание? Угловую скорость у передних колёс бэхи и ауди видел? У бэхи тупо зацепа не хватило.

This is a funny one, not saying they are different tires but looks like the audi has a larger tire diameter than the bmw, therefore it is able to catch on to the side of the box, somewhat bypassing that single roller setup. Just see how the rear tire is slightly compression on either edge of the box for the audi but not the bmw. A quick search for these 2 cars tire size.... Ø26.744" for X1 (225/55ZR17) and Ø27.252" for Q3 (235/50R18) In conclusion, unless you are driving on this particular setup of rollers on a day to day basis, both car will get up slippery hill with one rear tire on ice just fine. I like both brands but would rather choose subaru, you guessed it, I am a subaru fan boy that drives a honda.

@ollesund9

6 жыл бұрын

Its funny, it doesnt matter how much proof People like you Will get, in the end of the day, you still sitting there by yourself and denying facts, mate for fuck sake, search for whatever 4wd video you can find, quattro Will always beat xdrive, its simple

@Count_Grishnackh

Жыл бұрын

every bad driver and biggest douche bag i have ever witnessed was driving…you guessed it a subaru.

Tires, inflation, weight of the car. All matters

As a guy who owns both a 2011 Audi S4 and a BMW 5-series with X-drive, I can tell you the quattro system is significantly better. Although it's not usually the going that's the problem, it's the stopping.

It's simple, Audi had taller tires! Both front and back of the tire makes contact on trap, while BMW was only contacting the front edge, just spinning out. Look closer!

@vlad20008

3 жыл бұрын

first person that actually understands 4wd sistems:)))

@vlad20008

3 жыл бұрын

i would have said that front wheels of bmw were also over inflated but owhell

@MK0413

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

Silly you. Arguing over two top of the line 4WD technologies. I'm over here in Sweden, with my rear wheel driven E90, and before that a front wheel driven A6 without a single problem. Want to know the solution? Learn to drive and don't put yourself into unecessary road conditions. What are you planning on buying a car so that you can drive through 2meters of snow in a fucking forrest? Buy a fucking tractor.

@aldinkajevic4931

7 жыл бұрын

Sant

@TDCflyer

7 жыл бұрын

Victor Larsson, You are absolutely right - this is just silly. I stick to my rather old and basic Volvo station wagon. Its cheap to maintain, comfortable and has loads of room inside. Buy some proper winter tyres, and thats it! Do accidents happen because of lack of 4WD? No, they happen when people fail to brake appropriately or go too fast around corners, and thats where winter tyres help, not 4WD.

@ElyciusM

7 жыл бұрын

Viktor Larsson I live in the middle of assfuck, Michigan. We get a lot of snow and ice here. Yeah, winter tires are needed, but AWD still helps a great deal. I have driven by snowplows that were stuck in the snow before while driving my Audi. Both of these AWD systems are amazing, and can help a lot in snowy conditions if you use the right tires.

@mikuslevente3210

7 жыл бұрын

Viktor Larsson

@majkosk8x

7 жыл бұрын

..or a tank lol

As long as all wheels are spinning its really down to grip!

@17sylargino

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't just say that. I think equal transfer of power between all wheels plays a huge factor, and Audi with their precise torque differentials have perfected that timing. That's why Quattro is making it seem easy. Each wheel is outputting almost equal energy compared to xdrive where it seems like there are delays of some sort. Just my novice opinion. I'm not too versed in all of that but my direct observation is what I find. Also, I think another clue as to the uneven disbursement of power is how the rear of the xdrives spins out... As if the front wheels were leading with the energy output and then the rear wheels were playing catch up, as if they were winding up. I don't think "simple" AWD motion is all it takes and yes, grip does play a factor, but in this instance, I really think it's the transfer timing.

Same conditions, same tires. Quattro rules.

I think the people that commented below don't realize why this video was made. BMW made a BS video making it appear the audi couldn't climb an incline the BMW could. These guys are showing you that test was rigged to make the Audi appear to fail. How this is not apparent to the posters below escapes me. I literally laughed out loud when the BMW spins helplessly at the end then the driver backs up and makes it pass the course effortlessly. He should've held a mic out the window and dropped it.

@andylie7699

8 жыл бұрын

The tires on the BMW were smaller than the Audi's though which made the X1 sink lower in to the hole

@Kestasification

8 жыл бұрын

+Andreas Lie if you sink deeper you become more grip with the groud not snow :) so the bmw had a advance ^^

@andylie7699

8 жыл бұрын

Not when the bottom of the tire has no grip...

@ioan2232

8 жыл бұрын

+Kestutis Mamkaitis you're wrong. how the hell bmw has more grip than audi? if you sink deeper in a hole you can't get out easily.. the tire has to pass that kerb...

@frankone97

8 жыл бұрын

+BeBe Hacker If you would've seen the video, you would realize that the guys on videos are explaining the way bmw cheated. Its not a comparasion video. Its not supose to be fair. Only to show that it was easy to BMW to make that Q3 look like it couldn't climb, while the x1 could. Thats the problem when you see a video with your head full of prejuice

Shows BMW xdrive is RWD biased AWD, while Audi quattro is FWD biased AWD. Put a bracket at the front wheel position like the rear wheel did, then both will even out. It's all about what you like. I like the RWDness of BMW.

@I_like_them_Thiccc

10 жыл бұрын

no, audi was never fwd biased awd, first of they were first ones to come up with fully functional awd(Audi S1) there fore Quattro is mechanical(torsen diff) while bmw is electronically controlled

@250gtskyline5

10 жыл бұрын

front 60 rear 40? I dont get it

@NHLhockeyplayer15

10 жыл бұрын

Chern Timothy 60% of the power goes to the back wheels

@94XJ

10 жыл бұрын

You're right, being the smaller platform Q3 this is a Haldex AWD system vs the Torsen rear-biased setup in Audi models from the A4 on up. Even so, the BMW is supposed to be 40/60 F/R but it really behaved more like 20/80 here.

@mohammadkhalifa9202

10 жыл бұрын

Spot on

The result is very forseable, the audi has more weight over front wheels, 60/40 distribution, hence with the front wheels on rollers the back tyres have less traction. the bmw has 50/50 distribution meaning same weight on the back tyres ( add in the inclined slope and its more rear traction than the audi) so the result is reveresed. it is also worth noting that the bmw had all 4 wheels turning at the same speed meaning a locked 4 wheel drive system better for snow, the audi was just spinning up the unloaded tyre and having diffculty. but the results are predictable.

I have been to one of these tests for the BMW X5 launch and they did the same thing. but they put all wheels but one on a roller to demonstrate. Both the BMW and the Audi were very close in time off the roller. Also, to Hogwit's point, I did see the driver of the Audi slightly angle the vehicle so that the tire would hit the side of the roller to get traction on most all tests (first test of Audi was left front on side of roller second test was right rear heavy on the side of the roller), while the BMW had to do it straight on with no help. Watch closely before comparing. These things are to empower the salesperson to BELIEVE in their product. Truth be told, both have a great system. It is all in how you like the bias to be. I agree with Efthimios on liking rear biased systems.

@northwind393

Жыл бұрын

2:05 bmw тоже стоит колесом не ровно! На роликах

PUT ALL THOSE CARS ON THE SAME NEW TIRES THEN DO THE TEST.

@johannesmaximilian848

8 жыл бұрын

Yes! I agree.

@TheTesok

8 жыл бұрын

+duane howard it depends on the differencial, and how the car can distribut the torque between the axles

@tax905972

8 жыл бұрын

You can have the best awd made but if the tries are shit ,you go nowhere

@tax905972

8 жыл бұрын

***** It appears some maybe worn more then others

@user-mr3wl8du8q

8 жыл бұрын

+duane howard может и систему поменять и привод?!quattro

Refresh test. 10 years - many changes. Thank you yt🙂

Each company has its own awesomeness. It's the tyres, the driver/s, and the skill in each driver. Electronic helps, but the basic driving skill is also important. Each AWD system has its own weaknesses in the way how it was designed, and the software that controls it.

Q3. X1 Q5. X3 Q7. X5 Fair comparison, correct me if I'm wrong.

@ramtinnamini5211

5 жыл бұрын

Q2 . X1 Q3 . X3 Q5 . X5 Q7 . X7 THIS IS CORRECT😉

@iggorbatko

5 жыл бұрын

Ramtin Namini but q5 smaller than x5. x5=gle q5=glk x3=glc

@AL1-53

5 жыл бұрын

X6 = Camaro Q7 = E55 AMG GLE = Mercedes Trump = İs the Shit

@djole4269

4 жыл бұрын

@@ramtinnamini5211 q7 x5

@MrDjDiLi

4 жыл бұрын

Q2 x1 q3 x3 q5 x5 q7 x6

this is just a test of who has the better tires. hasnt got anything to do with fourwheel drive system

@noname-wb5cv

9 жыл бұрын

They both have the same tires, so it's not comparing the tyres (read the description).

@MrBusunglueck

9 жыл бұрын

Azaan Habib no they dont

@MrBusunglueck

9 жыл бұрын

no name 1st they havent got the same tires( watch the video, they are clearly differtent). 2nd the audi only got out of the hole cause it drove onto that orange bar in the middle.

@HeavenlyWarrior

9 жыл бұрын

no name Audi tyres are bigger, that's why it passed that test thing... The wheels are not the same size that's why Audi was in advantage.

@anemusek

9 жыл бұрын

FreedomWarrior Ofcourse and another question are runflat tires in BMW - less elastic (with a higher rolling resistance on such "hole"), with less adherence area. That is the reason why in offroad are used tires with less pressure (on loose ground for example)...

pay attention to the quattro rear-driver size tire placement within the roller block. The inside portion of the tire is over the inside orange bar holding the roller - traction point. While the BMW is also off-center ever the rollers but it does not make contact with the roller frame - only the roller. I don't really care for either vehicle model but i do care about honest and accurate testing.

Here's a quick summary: A4/S4/RS4 or bigger - traditional quattro A3/S3 or smaller - Haldex TT/TT-S/TT-RS - Haldex R8 - quattro modified (think of the front wheels pushed back to the rear, and everything remains the same. except there is a drive shaft going to the front where the rear shaft would be in normal quattros) Q3 - Haldex Q5 - traditional quattro Q7 - BorgWagner traditional awd (using a traditional transfer case)

I would take either. Both are very well made vehicles and would perform excellent and snow/icy situations.

Q7 - X5 Q5 - X3 Q3 - X1 yep

@sporttube69

3 жыл бұрын

Q8 - X6

@user-wi6hd6ej2i

3 жыл бұрын

Ну система Quattro на AUDI Одно целое На всех моделях Равных пока нету

@eskobarov

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-wi6hd6ej2i а как же то что колеса по диагонали толкают?

The fact that one may have winter tires vs the all season tires may be one of the culprits. I've never had any issues in my e60 LCI 535xi (awd) in snow and ice.

Quattro - power.

It's about the driver skill. Both Audi and Bmw are great. But if you smash the gas on either, they won't do anything.

LOL. You don't win FIA races and WRC rally with XDrive!!! But quattro is the race and rally proven AWD system. It's so advanced that FIA and IMSA banned quattro for racing.

@GabCampbell

7 жыл бұрын

the fia didnt ban quatro in WRC its just a myth you moron. BTW Mini has been winning Dakar these days and Mini is BMW

@7spower998

7 жыл бұрын

You are the moron one...LOL. There's no WRC Group B BMW XDrive rally car, while there was a monster 500-600HP Group B Audi quattro S1 EV2 rally car. The quattro was introduced in 1980 and was in-house designed. The 1st gen. BMW 4WD system simply called X was introduced in 1988 and wasn't in-house designed, but was designed by FF Ferguson....It took BMW 8 years and a British 4WD specialist to design it and to this day no XDrive wins any FIA sanction WRC Rally event....LOL. Hannu Mikkola, Michelle Mouton, Stig Blomqvist, and the ever popular rally driver of all time Walter Rohl all drove winning quattros. Tom Kristensen aka Mr. Le Mans, a 9-time Le Mans winner drove quattro not XDrive....and the XDrive LOL continues. Unlike the WRC, which is a year around rally and is contested in different countries, Paris-Dakar is only once a year marathon rally. Plenty of time to prep the cars for the event. Where's the WRC Mini? I don't see it. It was introduced in 2011 and canned in 2012....LOL. Have you ever seen XDrive M series cars or racing cars...LOL. The Munich boys are still scratching their heads....

@-rotukezge---6564

7 жыл бұрын

good Job S POWER !!!! only audi !!!

@7spower998

7 жыл бұрын

Thx.

@7spower998

7 жыл бұрын

Commando Foka I`m very sorry. This comment was for Gab Campbell not you. It`s supposed to go under his username not you. I don`t know what happened. My apology

Interesting Video !!! How do the Subaru and Range Rover systems compare ?? !!

What Is this Video about Winter Tyres agains summer tyres?

I have an X1 and ESP is supposed to be off to maximize traction front to rear. Both Audi and BMW systems appear to work well by transferring power to all 4 wheels. Not all systems work that well. In this case the non-rollered tires of the BMW continued to slip. The Audi seems to have better tires for this task. I think it's that simple.

@razvannegrila3946

Жыл бұрын

Sheet video mate

When we compare ,normal people use the same tires dimensions ,22" audi against 18" bmw , the tires react differently in the same gap.

Кстати данный тест лучше и правильнее делать летом, чтобы не было споров по резине!

This test is crap the cars are not perfect align with the spinning system so it won't slide like they should instead they get a grip with the margin ........ let the profesionals do the compare

@sFde46

8 жыл бұрын

+onicel teo professionals? i hope you don't imply professionals from bmw dealership?

@eetukarjalainen1336

6 жыл бұрын

onicel teo yes yes this test is crap cus they used bmw against audi and audi of course wins :(

Comments full of people don’t understand how Quattro works, says it’s tire problem

Actually the AWD system of Q3 is not the real quattro system as Q7/Q5.

X1 has its wheels rotating. So the awd system is working OK. Why it does not help is another issue. BUT: Audi was able to escape the rollers when the front wheels got away from them sideways and onto the side rib. And the rear wheels were on that side rib from the very beginning!

If you look carefully at 0:45-0:50, you can see he's turning the front wheels to the right, allowing the inside edge of the left wheel to catch the edge of the rollers, giving the car traction and allowing it to pull out. The rear wheels do the same thing, which is why it's able to pull forward so easily. The BMW was much more squarely on the rollers, which is why it had more difficulty. Look closely and you'll see it. I'm not a fanboy for either system. Like others said, it should also be noted that the quality and type of tires used was not disclosed...just something to be weary of.

The Q3 have no real Torsion-QUATTRO. It have the HALDEX Clutch and this is similar the BMW X-Drive. So this can not be a real answer to bmw video. But in the BMW Video there is an Q5 with Torsion-Quattro but the Torsion can´t work because the Traction of one axle is zero.

this has more to do with tires than the 4wd sistem

@EJR20

3 жыл бұрын

They already said both cars had same tires.

@peterp6798

3 жыл бұрын

Safe bro 😁

@kedyzor

3 жыл бұрын

You can give a BMW tyres made by God Himself. It still won't perform. The first versions of xDrive were at least a little bit useful and decent. The newer electronically controlled ones are complete and utter garbage though. Just like the new infinite number of turbocharger engines...

@trainslife5638

3 жыл бұрын

@@kedyzor so why do the front tires of the bmw spinn more? just asking

@kedyzor

3 жыл бұрын

@@trainslife5638 quite elementary: the ratio of power transfer between the two axles is lower on the BMW due to the xDrive being designed to keep more power on the front wheels (less of a true 4x4 system if you will). That is actually one of the things that makes BMWs get stuck in snow for example: the front wheels spin and waste power and dig in. That is the unfortunate truth of today: BMW stopped making real cars in the 90's.

And it looks like the wheels of X1 are smaller so the angle is bigger and it is more difficult to get out. Don't you think so?

Driver’s trick; speed of acceleration (speed at which the accelerator/gas pedal is pressed), makes the whole difference.

I'd like to know what kind of tires were on both cars! That would make a huge difference!

in soviet russia xdrive quattro you

@denissssss8579

4 жыл бұрын

damian kowal lol

Как-то коллега заправилась на Газпроме, с заправки ехала на эвакуаторе) Потом, кстати, отсудила у них денег на ремонт. Экспертиза показала, что бензин был разбавлен водой. Водой, Карл! И таких случаев масса. Многие производители вообще страх потеряли в погоне за прибылью. Друзья - мужчины, говорят, что не надо экспериментировать и создавать себе проблемы. Направили на Роснефть, объяснив тем, что у них самое современное производство. Сейчас идет масштабная модернизация на всех заводах. Потом, у них отлаженный контроль за доставкой бензина на заправки и хорошо оттренингованный, опытный персонал. Моя «Кушечка» довольна)

Czy opony w obu autach były takie same?

The physics of process is unclear. Both cars have all their whells moving, but why BMW can't go up? Are the tires sizes the same??? Probably, "loaded" front wheel of Audi is better for this case, than "ideal balance" of BMW....

@edism

9 жыл бұрын

Tolik8888 Best comment on this I've seen so far...

@johannesmaximilian848

8 жыл бұрын

Yes this test is faked and absolutly not real. Just look on the tires.... and the driver can handle the car as he wants. He can handle the BMW bad and the audi good. This test cant be serious...

@anatoliibatura2385

8 жыл бұрын

+kickdje Ideal balance is good on a road or Formula1 track... But for "imperfect" off-road systems "heavy head" can be better, than ideal balace :) For the off-road conditions, of course. Standard BMW X-drive - is the "inverse Heldex" - the main axix is rear, if neсessary - front is rigidly (without differential) connected.... probably, certain "slippage" is possible.... The first Jeep Bantam-Willys had the same, but front axis was connected by the driver, but not by the computer :) Note, that now the very last BMW of 1-2 series (and X1-2) have the front-axis transmition, even for Xdrive system the main axis is front!!!

@jamesgravier

8 жыл бұрын

+johannes gruber It is not a faked test, the BMW X5 has at least half a ton on the Q3. The beemer just didn't need have the grip it needed, doesn't judge witch system is better they both do their job.

@anatoliibatura2385

8 жыл бұрын

+James Gravier Threre is X1 in the test, not X5

in my country when it starts to rain and snow, BMW are always sliding around or getting stuck we see them everywhere. Volkwagen,Nissan,Subaru,Audi seem to have better 4x4 systems.

Haldex AWD Where: Starting from 1998 quattro has become just a trade mark and it does not indicate that all wheel drive system with Torsen differential is used on the vehicle any more. Vehicles with transverse engine mounting (Audi A3/S3 quattro, Audi TT quattro) are equipped with Haldex automatic all wheel drive. The same type of automatic all wheel drive is used on VW Golf/Bora/Jetta 4motion (Mark IV 1998-2005, Mark V 2003-), VW Sharan 4motion (2001-) and other Volkswagen AG vehicles with transverse engine mounting - Seat and Skoda. Automatic all wheel drive. Haldex multiplate clutch with electronic control acting as a center differential. Open rear differential, EDL on some models (not proved). Open front differential, EDL. Normally front wheel drive vehicle. In normal driving conditions 100% of torque transferred to front axle. When slipping occurs, Haldex multiplate clutch locks and up to 100% of torque is automatically transferred to rear axle. Haldex clutch offers instant activation - it locks as soon as one driveshaft travels just 1/8 of a turn further than the other. Front wheels do just 1/4 of a turn before AWD is activated. Accompanied by EDL on front wheels, in on-road conditions the car will not move if both front and one rear wheels lose traction. Again, due to limitations of Electronic Differential Lock (see quattro IV description above), in off-road conditions it is enough for one front and one rear wheel to lose traction and the car will not move. The Haldex system is more reactive than preventative; the Torsen's even power split under non-slipping conditions makes slipping less likely to start, while the Haldex's greater torque split under slipping conditions is helpful for recovery. Haldex Electronic Control Unit disengages the clutch as soon as brakes are applied to allow ABS work properly; it also disengages the clutch when handbrake is pulled to allow “handbrake turns”. When performing tight low-speed turns (e.g. parking) the clutch is disengaged by Electronic Control Unit to avoid wind-up in transmission.

Where did BMW buy the license for that AWD system? I keep forgetting...

помоему проблема в том, что у бэхи колёса по-меньше

@dadysam6903

9 жыл бұрын

и резина по хуже

@qwertykeyboard4279

3 жыл бұрын

@@ustmartamus5816 это чё за маркетологи такие у которых меньше 2 тыс подписчиков? Не видел чтоб мерс или БМВ смогли заехать на трамплин как ауди

колёса вроде крутят одинакого, какая-то проблема с резиной на бмв

@vadimkeks

2 жыл бұрын

diametr kolesa

Лучший в мире серийный полный привод у Кватро!!!

The man in background says right, the weight was the reason. It was good to see the bmw front wheels got even more circular velocity. It had too few grip also.

Who the fuck would buy these cars for off-road driving anyway?! :)

Quattro rules. XDrive drools.

@nomayor1

10 жыл бұрын

Ok now wake up, smell the coffee and look up a video here in youtube called: Roller Test: BMW X3 vs MB GLK vs Audi Q5. This demonstrates how CRAP the Audi is in a 100% realistic test, with traction on only one of the four wheels. Good night...

@asdclay

10 жыл бұрын

nomayor1 Spamming the same comment, to all Quattro vs Xdrive videos? So lame. The whole world knows that quattro is the best. Just accept it. Good morning.

@bonze1257

10 жыл бұрын

nomayor1 I was just being silly, but my comment was based on personal experience. I have had better traction than any friends BMW's, but that could be based on tires or pure driving skill. Who knows. If you watch Subaru's video, Subaru comes out on top. If you watch Lexus, Lexus comes out on top. Subaru continually discusses the benefit of their "asymmetrical AWD." Personally, I don't understand it. If my car is stuck, I WANT it to move side to side in an attempt to gain traction.

@nomayor1

10 жыл бұрын

The Bonz Hello. I think they would be very cautious posting fake information and the video I proposed you to see is an official BMW video, from an official BMW test/demonstration. I would expect Mercs and Scoda's (sorry, VW, again sorry, audi's...) Legal departments to only be too happy to drag BMW to the courts asking for hundreds of millions for should this were a fake video. Which, they didn't. With regards to the Subaru, I agree it may have better 4X4 capabilities, being 35% of the weight. I still however prefer the unsurpassed thud the doors of X5 make when they close, rather than being able to cross terrains that I will never ever have to, in real life.

There are 3 main types of Quattro AWD. The Q3 has the most primitive system. The standard self locking center diff Quattro system (with or without optional torque vectoring rear diff) is superior to the BMW Xdrive. This is not an apples to apples comparison. You may as well compare the BMW to a Kia Sportage.

subtitles would have been cool! but thanks for the video anyway! good job

Спасибо за видео. Очередная попытка оправдать никчемный привод "кватро" от ауди. Любой внимательный человек заметит, что на пробуксовку оси, стоящей на роликах, бвм реагирует быстрее и правильнее по отношению крутящего момента на колесах. Все сносы и пробуксовки - результат езды на плохой резине. Разрешение не позволяет увеличить до 100% уверенности, но похоже, что это вообще дубовый ранфлет. Если одеть Х1 в гудрич, а Q3 оставить на тех катках, на которых она выступает в этом видео, шансов у Q3 не будет. Повторюсь - привод х-драйв от БМВ работает лучше, что и подтверждает это видео. Еще раз спасибо автору.

@spivakserge

5 жыл бұрын

На X1 в стоке и стоит ран-флэт, которого, если не ошибаюсь, на зиму шипованного и не бывает. А липучка разная выпускается: на "евро-липучке" вообще в наших зимних условиях нормально ездить крайне затруднительно. Поэтому варианта два: или на Х1 стоит нештатная зимняя резина, или там штатный ран-флэт со всеми вытекающими. Если, конечно, там вообще зимняя резина))

Audi and Bmw have good 4 wheel driven system but Subaru beats them easily in every off road competition.

@TomSilver_42

9 жыл бұрын

Amen, check how both goes side to side while they are trying to forward! Asymetrical drive shafts .. crap. That's why I left fancy plastic and tons of fake gold of modern german cars somewhere behind and bought Subaru !

@bmwpowercn

9 жыл бұрын

There is nothing in this video about Subaru. No one says Subaru AWD is bad under this video's comments area. Why you care Subaru, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Toyota, acura while these guys are comparing AUDI with BMW.

@jonesp7813

9 жыл бұрын

Lol you're crazy.. This guy said subaru. How u compare a box of plastic to refinement? Bmw transmission is glass while audi has a the new crown diff so these fools won't manipulate the rollers by turning esc off on the open diff. Haldex is not Quattro it's just branded, torsen is the real symmetric system. Thats used in more higher end audis. Not Q3, Q5s

@taveeeee

9 жыл бұрын

Jon Esp To my knowledge the Q5 has torsen system. May depend on market.

@adamworth1979

9 жыл бұрын

LOL Subaru used to be good, they SUCK. I was ready to buy a brand new one, test drove the Outback and the Forrester, woah! The transmission SUCKS, had no power at all. Needless to say, I ended up buying something else. I was very disappointed because a few years ago I rented an Outback and it was great, I then learned the newer ones use CVT transmissions, they SUCKKKKK!!!!!

Did they took in consideration tire brand/type/size/traction rims too size/wide

Im with you there! :)

комментаторы журналюги по ходу нихрена не шарят, что в БМВ не тянет полный привод.... посмотрите БМВ моментально схватывает при пробуксовке, мы практически не видим разницы в пробуксовке спереди и сзади, тогда как АУДИ как на фискомуфте мы слышим долго буксующее переднее правое (но не видим) и лишь потом подключается зад (в песке бы вы уже сели бы намертво). то что БМВ не может взъхать это поправка на покрытие и скорее на шины (они разные)

Less Talking, more driving

you never see subaru in these tests, but when you see them, they kick ass 👍 haldex is used by almost every car in europe, but they make some adjustments to make a better system. but subaru uses symmetrical awd. much better then the quattro xdrive 4matic and 4motion

Audi Q3: wheel size 7J x 18" tire 235/50 R18 BMW X1: wheel size 7,5J x 17" tire 225/50 R17 tire pressure?

Это все надуманные различия. В обоих случаях же полный привод в итоге! Я бы поверил в этот тест если бы для чистоты эксперимента покрышки были бы одинаковыми, а так не совсем понятно из-за чего пробуксовка идет - из-за некорректной работы электроники и полного привода в целом или элементарного проскальзывания колес. Вообще очень странно - у заднеприводной БМВ в этом тесте больше нагружена задняя опять же часть, значит сцепление должно было быть лучше со старта. Видео - хрень.

both cars are great but the bmw has bad tires clearly!!

@ethan4973

5 жыл бұрын

X drive is more crap 💩 than that bmw

front tyres on the bmw are spinning so they should pull up but have no grip- have you fiddled with the tyres to prove sth. perhaps?

Very good lesson. As BMW owner, I should avoid rollers on the road at any cost because I may be trapped ! I am even more concerned because I find such roller on almost every road in a place I live ;) BTW in real conditions on real ice xdrive handles pretty good, in my opinion every serious engineer didn't consider scenario showed on this video.

Audi have 19" wheel and BMW 18". Look how dip is tire in chanel of audi and how of BMW.FAKE TEST

@serbtube3164

8 жыл бұрын

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Здесь в данной ситуации все очень просто, у Ауди больше диаметр колеса, соответственно и площадь соприкосновения в ямке с роликом выше. Просто нажмите паузу, когда Ауди стоит задним колесом, потом перемотайте на картинку когда Бмв стоит задним колесом - и все будет ясно.

@dmitryp939

7 жыл бұрын

да это все ясно. Просто БМВ запилили нечестный видос, где незаслуженно обосрали кваттро. Если сделать у БМВ такие же колеса - они оба выедут, но не будет такого, как показали БМВ, что кваттро тронуться не может

All you want is the car not throwing power away to the low grip tires which neither do. Same tires are good, but there are different tires sizes, possibly pressures, contact patch, and different weight balance over those tires that do affect the grip per end during the test stages. Both are good as both use all 4 tires well. All 4 tires go, and that's what you want to see. The Audi seems to have a grip advantage on the surface, for whatever reason.

Wasn t the other video vs a x3?

It is all about tires

Never known that every person in the comments is an engineer at Audi & BMW.

sommerreifen gegen winterreifen ?

Owned both BMW with X-Drive, then Audi A6 with Quattro. The Audi was better overall based on multiple New England winters in both vehicles IMO. But I'd either again, as there is more to the cars than just the AWD.

Very bad tires + the tire "balloon" is way bigger on the audi, than on the bmw that facititates grip in winter conditions ...

@kristiaan1

7 жыл бұрын

It's probably 1 inch bigger, it's simply not going to make any noticeable difference... live with it

Да всеми колесами так же гребет БМВ, видимо резина хуже просто.

@user-rr3gr5ki9b

4 жыл бұрын

Просто бмв говно а не машина. Тазы даже лучше. А это бмв для тыпых дебилов

@user-wi6hd6ej2i

4 жыл бұрын

У AUDI сцепка как у ящерицы 🦎 называется Quattro а у BMW хрень его знает с чего его взяли этот X-Drive

@user-wi6hd6ej2i

4 жыл бұрын

142 142 у Quattro система ящерицы стойт

@user-wi6hd6ej2i

4 жыл бұрын

142 142 ты помоему от жизни отстаёшь

@maximshimko1228

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-rr3gr5ki9b сказал задрот которого даже не катали на иксе. Икс идёт как по рельсам на гололёде на кольцевой дороге

On all BMWs the weight is distributed 50-50 between the front and the rear axles. So there is as much weight on the rear tyres as there is on the front.

Don't hate and compare but, love and admire.

Lolll the tires of the X3 are done, cant compare it like that.... Come on

@sonnyman2000

10 жыл бұрын

i fairly sure its an x1. but yeah.. hard to tell if the tires are to blame when you cant see the other side

@MrLobsterity

10 жыл бұрын

you know, it's an answer to a BMW's xDrive comparison against a broken Audi, so flat tires are a fair thing

this video should be named Summer tires Vs winter tires

@theeponym

10 жыл бұрын

Both cars are using the same tires in this video.

@user-qb5vu5xb5g

10 жыл бұрын

theeponym you are lier. did you ever drive runflat tires? if yes, you have not done such stuped comment.

@justinpitcher7153

10 жыл бұрын

Александр Шинкаренко It says they're the same tires right in the video description.

I am amazed by how many idiots comments about tires when is clearly written in the description that are the same. I`ve drove both the q3 qwuattro and bmw x1 xdrive. Even with quattro 80% of the time the audi drags the car and 80% of the time the bmw pushes the car forward .Electronics play a role but not much. I wouldn`t even bother to buy a xdrive unless you leave in an area where you have a lot of snow. The ESP and DTS sistems on new bmws and mercs are doing a good job if you`re a good driver. Quattro is more stable on bad weather but xdrive is way more fun to drive. Also the quattro fuel consumption is higher than xdrive, more expensive to fix and you have more overall problems with front axel.

@Victortrotska

8 жыл бұрын

You are correct. I see a lot of people who buy AWD systems to drive in "normal" conditions 99.99% of time. Or to face "hard conditions" (heavy snow fall mostly) one time per year. In the past I mostly had 2WDs even in deep snow or ice and I never had a problem with good winter tyres. Might it be FWD or RWD. People need to learn to drive instead of expecting a car that will do their job. :-)

It depends by the different grip of tires, not by traction

Ich bevorzuge schon den Audi Quattro Antrieb aber bei dem BMW waren die Reifen das Problem und nicht der Antrieb.

@samuelkermann737

8 жыл бұрын

+Miche Woasined ich denke, dass der Audi vorn das differential (zumindest teilweise) sperren kann.. anders nicht erklärbar. Beim BMW dreht das eine Rad vorn durch, ich wette das andere dreht sich nicht ein Stück (und hinten kann er keinen Grip haben).

@blazzee88

8 жыл бұрын

+Miche Woasined Man muss ja auch bedenken, dass ein Q3 einen Quer eingebauten Motor und somit eine Haldex Kupplung hat. Den "richtigen" permanenten Quattro Antrieb gibt es ja nur bei Längst eingebauten Motoren mit Torsen Differential.

@Digi20

8 жыл бұрын

Bei beiden Autos sind hier eher die Reifen das Problem. Man sieht eigentlich sehr gut das die Allradsysteme regeln und Kraft zu den freistehenden Rädern schicken. Die drehen aber auch nur haltlos durch.

@Digi20

8 жыл бұрын

+Samuel Kermann da stehen beide Räder einer Achse auf den Rutschplatten :)

@samuelkermann737

8 жыл бұрын

blazzee88 klar, bei einer achse schon immer, ich rede von der jeweils anderen achse. Haldex kupplung bzw mitteldifferential können sowieso beide (zumindest telweise) sperren. Wenn dann aber kein weiteres diff gesperrt wird braucht an jeder achse nur ein rad durchdrehen und vorbei ists (von diesen radspezifischen gezielten bremseingriffen die glaube ich bei beiden Autos erfolgen um das durchdrehende rad an der jeweiligen Achse zu bremsen halte ich nicht viel..)

Well, this "test" doesnt show much.. its a simple fact, that, on both cars all four wheels are probably spinning ( we cant see the far side, but thats my believe ) When all four wheels are spinning, its the tires that makes the diffrence.. the Audi is probably equipped with the better tire for this test. - Iam a Subaru fan, but I think it will be the same result the tires will win the test.

@TakeshixMiozoky

8 жыл бұрын

+dkphantomdk "BMW X1 vs Audi Q3.two runs for both cars, first with ESP on, and second with ESP off. The same conditions, the same tires." In the description, they say that the tires are the same in the both.

Where was this filmed?

Топчик

Тест резины???? Что хотели сказать этим роликом? БМВ походу была на летней резине и всё! Передняя и задняя ось букосовали...и буксовали синхронно, как с межосевым блокирующимся дифференциалом, а машинка при этом тупо стояла!

@maximshimko1228

3 жыл бұрын

Тоже так думаю, я бы на своем иксе на Мишлен шиповке оъипал бы этот ку 3 и 5 и 7 тоже

крутятся все четыре колеса у обеих авто. значит полный привод работает правильно. вопрос в распреление крутящего момента. думаю что немецкие инженеры как одной, так и другой марки умеют настаивать полный привод... Как видно из видео (а точнее четко слышно по характерному звуку зацепов шипов) - Ауди явно на зимней шипованной резине, в то время как БМВ на летней или не шипованной зимней резине. ОТСЮДА ВЫВОД - ТЕСТ ЯВНО НЕ КОРРЕКТНЫЙ,

@rusgs7348

5 жыл бұрын

согласен, и мне показалось странным как то все, ведь 4 колеса крутится а как ауди не едет

It's important to note that the Q3 is predominantly FWD, with on-demand rear assistance. In the first run, you'll note that with the front wheels given little traction, the Q3 struggles. With the front wheels given more traction, the Q3 moves right along. The opposite is true for the BMW. Point being, when a RWD biased car has more traction on the rear, it will perform better. When a FWD biased car has more traction on the front, it will perform better.

that is also true, yes

Audi (like) BMW (komment) What wins?😏

It's just difference weight rate . ex) Audi - Front 65 : 35 Rear BMW Front 5:5 Rear

@ 2:28, take a look at the BMW's rear tire. ...maybe its just me, but doesn't it appear be under inflated ??

The description says "same tires". I don't think so, just look at the size of the Audi's tires, HUGE in comparisson to the BMW's tires.

Audi 😍❤

the audi wasn't even on the roller for the second half.

@ElyciusM

7 жыл бұрын

Will Debeljak it was just as much on the roller as the bmw was. stop making excuses. This isn't any less fair than the bmw video was. And the BMW video was made by BMW...

Definitely different wheel dimensions and thread pattern

What is the Audi, A4 allroad, Q7 or Q5? What is the BMW, X1, X3, X5 or X6?