Quantum Consciousness | Robert Wright & Stuart Hameroff [The Wright Show]

1:43 The Hameroff-Penrose theory of quantum consciousness
16:53 Why we’ll never construct a true artificial intelligence
28:16 The implications of quantum consciousness for free will
36:23 Do microtubules in the brain explain consciousness?
48:22 How quantum physics could help us understand anesthesia
1:04:57 Why Stuart doesn’t dismiss paranormal research
1:15:50 Could quantum entanglement explain paranormal phenomena?
Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Stuart Hameroff (University of Arizona)
Recorded June 8, 2018
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  • @dedicatedgamer2500
    @dedicatedgamer25006 жыл бұрын

    Great to see you and Stuart talking. Really enjoy Stuart's conferences and respect him and others who tackle such a tough subject.

  • @lightkeeper917
    @lightkeeper9173 жыл бұрын

    This is so tough! Really admire Stuart and Robert trying to solve the problem.

  • @wulphstein
    @wulphstein5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dr Hammeroff for bringing hope to where it is needed.

  • @rileystewart9165
    @rileystewart91656 жыл бұрын

    So thought provoking!

  • @YodasPapa
    @YodasPapa6 жыл бұрын

    This is super interesting, I haven't heard such interesting ideas in a long time.

  • @iloverumi
    @iloverumi6 жыл бұрын

    excellent talk! thank you.

  • @rpullman
    @rpullman2 жыл бұрын

    I wish there were a transcript of this. Many thanks

  • @rolandchan4465
    @rolandchan44655 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Dr Hameroff the Galileo of the 21th century?

  • @stavros1568
    @stavros15686 жыл бұрын

    This is the best convo you've had in awhile, my dearest friend.

  • @Fire-Toolz
    @Fire-Toolz5 жыл бұрын

    i would really like someone to speak on both microtubules and cerebro spinal fluid in the same discussion. i would love to see those two subjects come together.

  • @yacovmitchenko1490
    @yacovmitchenko14903 жыл бұрын

    Amazing stuff. Big fan of Stuart.

  • @upgrade1583
    @upgrade15835 жыл бұрын

    Human brains are quantum computers and when quantum computers observe themselves, it creates the self awareness everyone is confused about.

  • @peterkay7458

    @peterkay7458

    5 жыл бұрын

    Upgrade lol clever btw....john cramers TIQM says exactly what you just did....

  • @georgeR3Roadster

    @georgeR3Roadster

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have been reading a lot about NDE (near death experiences) and what you first of all can see is the fact that "souls/spirits" do not talk physically but telepathically, so the question and the answer are all at once, you do not have a delay in the answering. Here as I can understand we answer with a delay before the brain even starts "hearing" the question, so we could presume the brain is just a machine to "talk" because we cann't do otherwise, but in fact the telepathic relation is still working in the background ..... but not consciously .... ????? So when I answer your question, I already did answer it telepathically before I start putting words on it ... so we can understand the fact that when I lie to you in my answer, you can somehow "feel" that I lie to you because telepathically I did NOT lie to you, but my brain did put a lie in my answering words !! So first I answer you telepathically (without being conscious about it) and then my brain has to put words on it to answer you physically because well we live in a material world ... and when I want to lie to you my physical answer will be different from my telepathic one and you will "feel" that !! You cann't lie telepathically !!! Here in this world we are always in delay with our reality/body material moving or speaking but in our soul's realm (which we are always in contact with !) we are pure instantaneous in the now !! Think about a ventriloquist and his puppet, you are the ventriloquist (in universal consciousness) AND the puppet at the same time (in material body world) !! But what do I know hahaha ....

  • @GreenLight11111

    @GreenLight11111

    3 жыл бұрын

    ye when it observes itself like looking in a mirror it goes whoa - and collapses coz it cant handle it lol

  • @paulmccray4055

    @paulmccray4055

    3 жыл бұрын

    sounds plausible

  • @scottcurrier
    @scottcurrier5 жыл бұрын

    Well done !

  • @TheFourthPhilosopher
    @TheFourthPhilosopher5 жыл бұрын

    When it comes to the study of consciousness Stuart and Sir Penrose will go down as this centuries greatest minds. The "Grandfathers" of the blooming conscious era. They will look back in a hundred years and say, "How great it would have been to hear them speak." In time, Penrose will also be hailed for his cyclical universe theory. These geniuses are leading us into a new era, a higher awareness, and some people can't handle the "waves".

  • @Alfie_7

    @Alfie_7

    5 жыл бұрын

    very true, its been over 20 years since they developed their Orch OR theory and evidence seems to be validating their theory

  • @jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104

    @jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104

    2 жыл бұрын

    In a hundred years we may know.

  • @douwejan
    @douwejan4 жыл бұрын

    He is struggeling trying to understand. I enjoyed it for that reason. There are many conversations online where rushkof can speak his ideas. This helped me to get a better grip on the theory

  • @jackharrison5890
    @jackharrison58903 жыл бұрын

    Great talk. Thanks

  • @GreenLight11111
    @GreenLight111113 жыл бұрын

    ive always said vibrations are healing. I used vibrations on my knee when it was throbbing in pain and it works. I dont have anymore pain in my knee. After watching this I might use it on my brain now for a buzz lol

  • @GlenSwartwout
    @GlenSwartwout5 жыл бұрын

    Wright comes across as a bit of a pro-censorship materialist...

  • @whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    @whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa6 жыл бұрын

    It was strange watching someone so scientifically literate get confused by the term "soluble".

  • @naitikshah4475
    @naitikshah44755 жыл бұрын

    Einstein did not reject the Quantum Entanglement. He said that it is a spooky action at a distance. Because if Quantum Entanglement was right at that time, it supposed to be violating the theory of relativity. Now it is known that quantum Entanglement is happening and it certainly doesn't violate the theory of relativity. It is the limitation of our knowledge because of which we are unable to picture the Quantum Entanglement. It is just like we are unaware of how to find the way ATM.

  • @allenanderson4911

    @allenanderson4911

    2 жыл бұрын

    Technically, all faster than light interactions violate the rule of relativity. Nothing moves FTL?

  • @superjaykramer
    @superjaykramer6 жыл бұрын

    GREAT GREAT GREAT GUEST!! MICROTUBULES...

  • @bobbytsopelas4210
    @bobbytsopelas42105 жыл бұрын

    Fire requires a flint. The body is the flint for conscious to spark the simulation called life

  • @thomsch
    @thomsch6 жыл бұрын

    Kip Thorne and Stuart Hamerof are the same person ! ^_^

  • @georgeR3Roadster
    @georgeR3Roadster4 жыл бұрын

    I have been reading a lot about NDE (near death experiences) and what you first of all can see is the fact that "souls/spirits" do not talk physically but telepathically, so the question and the answer are all at once, you do not have a delay in the answering. Here as I can understand we answer with a delay before the brain even starts "hearing" the question, so we could presume the brain is just a machine to "talk" because we cann't do otherwise, but in fact the telepathic relation is still working in the background ..... but not consciously .... ????? So when I answer your question, I already did answer it telepathically before I start putting words on it ... so we can understand the fact that when I lie to you in my answer, you can somehow "feel" that I lie to you because telepathically I did NOT lie to you, but my brain did put a lie in my answering words !! So first I answer you telepathically (without being conscious about it) and then my brain has to put words on it to answer you physically because well we live in a material world ... and when I want to lie to you my physical answer will be different from my telepathic one and you will "feel" that !! You cann't lie telepathically !!! Here in this world we are always in delay with our reality/body material moving or speaking but in our soul's realm (which we are always in contact with !) we are pure instantaneous in the now !! Think about a ventriloquist and his puppet, you are the ventriloquist (in universal consciousness) AND the puppet at the same time (in material body world) !! But what do I know hahaha ....

  • @georgeR3Roadster

    @georgeR3Roadster

    4 жыл бұрын

    so we could say that we have free will just for the choice of the words we put physically in our answer, in the way we answer, but free will is irrelevant in our telepathic answer because well we cann't lie or go against our fundamental free will "up there" (we are TOTALLY free up there, no choices to make ! it seems contradictory but isn't ! ) ..... So same with our deeds/proceedings here, we have free will, we can choose which deeds/proceedings we will take, go with the flow of our being or against it .... FREE will is only relevant in this material world concerning the way we develop our higher preceding input/influence here ....

  • @nancymatro8029
    @nancymatro80293 жыл бұрын

    You should try to interview Johnjoe McFadden or Jim Al-Khalili. They authored the book "Life On The Edge". McFadden is a biochemist and Al-Khalili is a physicist and their book explains how quantum phenomenon make life and consciousness possible. The 2015 book uses the latest research in many areas of science to make their points. They rip apart many existing theories, including Penrose's microtubules idea.

  • @marcstate2295
    @marcstate22954 жыл бұрын

    Two things that I was thinking about while watching this... 1. Can you entagle two nuclear active Xenon atoms...and if so...what if you anesthetised 2 subjects with the entangled Xenon....what would they experience?...what would they dream...would their thoughts be connected in some way?...prety mad scientist but...what if? 2. I was also thinking about the 21 grams experiments from way back when....when they weighed a body before and after death and it seemed to lose 21 grams.....ever tried weighing someone when they are aneesthetised?....again...mad scientist but....what if?

  • @alastairpaisley6668
    @alastairpaisley66686 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any plans to interview Christof Koch and/or Guilio Tononi and their theory of integrated information?

  • @NonzeroClips

    @NonzeroClips

    6 жыл бұрын

    Here you go: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJON0KSCiK6cgbg.html

  • @alastairpaisley6668

    @alastairpaisley6668

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @BengtFrost
    @BengtFrost5 жыл бұрын

    Not good interviewer, doesn't know how to listen or follow up. Still interesting listen to Stuart Hameroff!

  • @itsReallyLou
    @itsReallyLou4 жыл бұрын

    31:15 WTF! So, we are justifiably excited/impressed by our imaging technologies, whereas in fact we haven't even a clue as to "where" the real action is? For that matter, it may be external to our current definition/understanding of the universe? Profound. First I've heard of this. Shouldn't all life on earth freeze in place while we ponder this?

  • @MichaelAntonFischer

    @MichaelAntonFischer

    3 жыл бұрын

    In fact we are pretty unjustifiable impressed by our interpretation of brain images. In neuroscience there is so much sloppy work, where they just say, well I think that does that, but we don’t have a clue at all.

  • @MrGoodeats
    @MrGoodeats3 жыл бұрын

    The man interviewing Stuart is fairly annoying and refuses to entertain any “out there” ideas while investigating an “out there” field... He should not let his hard-on for academia interfere w his attainment of knowledge. knowledge is power and power always corrupts... don’t think what academia has to offer are the only truths out there......

  • @elliottfireice4394

    @elliottfireice4394

    Жыл бұрын

    He looks constantly annoyed and can be rude to his guests. If he doesn't enjoy it I don't see why he bothers doing it in the first place. His body language is unapproachable and not friendly

  • @wulphstein
    @wulphstein5 жыл бұрын

    How can free will not exist? That's like saying that an electron doesn't have a choice of which eigenstate to be measured in.

  • @Benbjamin-

    @Benbjamin-

    3 жыл бұрын

    How could it exist?

  • @timothybucky7170
    @timothybucky71706 жыл бұрын

    dissolve the interior of neuron away and look at what we can see when this is the complexity that works and we sure can not see it.

  • @wulphstein
    @wulphstein5 жыл бұрын

    Isn't quantum mechanics a scientific theory that predicts where the electron will be, key word: predicts.

  • @SimplifiedTruth

    @SimplifiedTruth

    5 жыл бұрын

    No. Predicts where it might be. The roll of dice might turn up 7.

  • @johnmiller5259
    @johnmiller52596 жыл бұрын

    🈚️☺️

  • @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time
    @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time6 жыл бұрын

    This is an invitation to see a theory on the nature of time! In this theory we have an emergent uncertain future continuously coming into existence relative to the spontaneous absorption and emission of photon energy. Within such a process the wave particle duality of light and matter in the form of electrons is forming a blank canvas that we can interact with forming the possible into the actual! The future is unfolding with each photon electron coupling or dipole moment relative to the atoms of the periodic table and the individual wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum. As part of a universal process of energy exchange that forms the ever changing world of our everyday life the ‘past’ has gone forever. At the smallest scale of this process the ‘past’ is represented by anti-matter annihilation with the symmetry between matter and anti-matter representing the symmetry between the future and the past as the future unfolds photon by photon. In such a theory the mathematics of quantum mechanics represents the physics of ‘time’ with the classical physics of Newton representing processes over a period of time, as in Newton’s differential equations. In my videos I explain how this process is relative to temperature and the phase changes of matter.

  • @chuckbeattyo
    @chuckbeattyo6 жыл бұрын

    Aren't particles simply a conglomeration of something like 12 different "fields" (think of the normal magnetic field) and these fields are just churning into spherically conceived forms, but when we look at the "particles" it's at best just as invisible at the sub-atomic level as magnetism's "field" is an actual whole thing like us big piles of matter/human bodies? Walking talking mega conglomerations of "fields" churning into their patterns, and for sure mathematics is the best language to measure into that tiny scale. Any of these designated "parts" we label, are just conveniences. The churning just goes on, and we use limiting labels to delve into what of these "parts" cause what. I'm an eternal return, infinite recycling of everything into every conceivable pattern forever, fan. Get a good field theory person on who explains the sub-atomic field world, the push and pull of the fields is reality, isn't that all it is? How do these fields do what they do, why are they even in their tiniest of existence even being these fields in the first place?

  • @projectmalus

    @projectmalus

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think there's two things there, the energy or energy field, and movement. The two aren't the same...energy without movement is nowhere (a potential), movement without energy is meaningless. I'm still thinking about what results mean. Perhaps a static result is the equivalent of entropy, and a result that "opens the commons" and leads to other ideas is a "good" result that plays the tune that consciousness wants to hear. Consciousness is the interface between energy and movement, and what we call meaning, that we crave, is this avoidance of a static result. Energy and movement, nouns and verbs. Art has a twofold purpose: to engage, and to show this tragedy of movement and energy where engaging in movement hastens the heat death of the universe....

  • @christinea.2123
    @christinea.21235 жыл бұрын

    A little suggestion for the interviewer: shut up and allow your guest to talk!

  • @whitenight941
    @whitenight9415 жыл бұрын

    You can't put all your eggs in one basket.The material world Wil always be real The other worlds Are just pieces of the same puzzle.But The spiritual world is more real than Our own! It's the gluon.free will drives my Car.hahaha Here how you a get super Position Buy a Supercomputer .

  • @vaultsjan
    @vaultsjan5 жыл бұрын

    31:30 - Correct me if im mistaken but we DO see brain activity prior the response 'happens'... www.nature.com/news/2008/080411/full/news.2008.751.html

  • @whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    @whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa6 жыл бұрын

    16:00 NO! There are not two particles, there are no particles. The particles DO NOT EXIST yet, not until the wave function collapse.

  • @Oners82

    @Oners82

    5 жыл бұрын

    turnerr44 Wrong, the particle exists in a superposition, that is how it interacts with itself in things like the double slit experiment. If there were no particles the double slit would not produce the results that it does. And as for wave function collapse, you are presupposing that the wave function collapses but in interpretations such as MWI the wave function never collapses, the particles always exist and simply decohere due to entanglement with the environment.

  • @whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    @whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    5 жыл бұрын

    No, the particles do not exist when they are quanta.

  • @Oners82

    @Oners82

    5 жыл бұрын

    turnerr44 Holy shit dude, read a book before commenting lol! Particles ARE quanta, for example a photon is the quanta of light, an electron is the quanta of electricity, the graviton is the quanta of gravity etc. To say that particles do not exist when they are quanta is meaningless because quanta are particles. And how the hell do you think you get an interference pattern if there are no particles to interact with each other?! The particle is in a SUPERPOSITION which means it is many places at the same time, and that is how it is able to interfere with itself and produce wave like properties. If there were no particle, there would be no superposition and hence no interference pattern.

  • @paulwillisorg

    @paulwillisorg

    5 жыл бұрын

    There are no granular particles. David Tong on quantum field theory - kzread.info/dash/bejne/rIKKs8iQc8LLpso.html

  • @marveltllegend8375
    @marveltllegend83755 жыл бұрын

    Y'all don't know what I know

  • @nalbizo2
    @nalbizo2 Жыл бұрын

    So this guy is an anesthesiologist and he's talking like he's an expert on quantum physics?

  • @Karen_Marie
    @Karen_Marie5 жыл бұрын

    Jeez, let the man speak! Your annoyed facial expressions that scream "I don't care about the details just hurry and get to the point" are so rude and distracting. You can tell the man has a point he's getting to and isn't just blabbing about irrelevant nonsense just for the sake of it. In fact, at around 54 minutes he's speaking so fast in order to make his very methodical point as quickly as possible because he knows you're going to interrupt any second and try to make his point for him, which you tried (and failed) to do several times. These are complex concepts and theories, let him explain them. He's very aware that you're annoyed and impatient and he's making his case as quickly and efficiently as possible while not losing the important details that people like me came to hear. And you should at least attempt to hide your annoyance if only to appear polite because your autism is showing.

  • @baloog8

    @baloog8

    5 жыл бұрын

    Its nice to be nice hahq

  • @user-vi3st1pv2v

    @user-vi3st1pv2v

    5 жыл бұрын

    He just has one of the those faces

  • @colebowman2833

    @colebowman2833

    5 жыл бұрын

    From what I can tell watching Wright's show for a few weeks, he just always looks like that. I was just talking about that to my fiancee. I think he's just always like that and very skeptical. Also, if he had just let him speak, he would have never got to any points because he had to repeatedly "step back a minute" to explain something prior to said topic.

  • @impancaking

    @impancaking

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol at the oxymoron of essencially telling someone to hide their autism..

  • @manaloola2018

    @manaloola2018

    5 жыл бұрын

    Karen maybe he suffers from bored resting face, a variant of bitchy resting face ;)

  • @aaronshure3723
    @aaronshure37235 жыл бұрын

    Bob was so helpful in breaking up Stu’s Gish gallop. It’s so odd when people who are obviously wasaaay smarter than me are also obviously so wrooooong. I wish Hammeroff had used all this energy for something other than lending cover to Deepak Chopra and helping Penrose taint his legacy. Same goes for Chalmers.

  • @Sampsonoff

    @Sampsonoff

    5 жыл бұрын

    Aaron Shure nice counter articles. his contributions, regardless of validity, is thought provoking.

  • @null.och.nix7743

    @null.och.nix7743

    5 жыл бұрын

    true dat maan

  • @bobbytsopelas4210
    @bobbytsopelas42105 жыл бұрын

    Microtubules are extraterrestrial organic computers

  • @Enycbx
    @Enycbx5 жыл бұрын

    This interviewer is there worst. So obnoxious.

  • @CommodoreJman
    @CommodoreJman3 жыл бұрын

    Can’t listen to this, the interviewer just seems to want to interview himself

  • @lbdeuce

    @lbdeuce

    3 жыл бұрын

    I see this comment about Wrights pods a great deal. While it’s easy to see where you all are coming from, I still have yet to find his style to detract from the discourse. But, too many people comment as such for it to be indefensible. I will have to be mindful of this next interview and see what I think. Def seems to have ADD or something tho.

  • @francescospezzano591
    @francescospezzano5915 жыл бұрын

    So I disagree with quantum consciousness theory cause I think that quantum mechanics doesn t explain totally consciousness phenomenon

  • @larryeastman7993

    @larryeastman7993

    4 жыл бұрын

    Francesco Spezzano and your theory is?

  • @JLP4444
    @JLP44446 жыл бұрын

    There's something really troubling about Harnoff's speaking style and discursive meanderings that doesn't leave a viewer with a lot of confidence.

  • @lincyu8

    @lincyu8

    6 жыл бұрын

    Although it's an age all about propaganda, I believe it's more of Hameroff and Penrose's interest to convince an audience with true understanding and scientific evidence (if available) rather than speaking technique.

  • @JLP4444

    @JLP4444

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lincoln Yu I disagree--clear thinking is reflected in clear communication.

  • @Oners82

    @Oners82

    5 жыл бұрын

    JLP4444 No it isn't necessarily, some of the deepest thinkers are/were terrible speakers. And what is wrong with the way he speaks anyway? He was perfectly lucid so I don't know what your problem is.

  • @nonyanonya6292

    @nonyanonya6292

    5 жыл бұрын

    The only thing that would leave you without confidence here is not knowing what the heck hes talking about. Stuart dumbed it down a little bit for people like me in his interviews with jeffery mishlove but this interview is way too sophisticated for me. He dishes out a ton of information. If you wish to negate some of what he says then please do, i really want to hear it, even if i dont fully understand, but having heard all this information and posting a comment about his speaking style is pretty stupid. I want to hear where hes wrong in your opinion and why.

  • @DarkHorse0863

    @DarkHorse0863

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wrong. Clueless observation.

  • @Gringohuevon
    @Gringohuevon5 жыл бұрын

    gibberish..

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