Let me translate: Zach should have sat behind a veteran year one, The OC was in over his head, Zach got pummeled behind the O-Line and lost his confidence which lead to extremely bad choices, terrible mechanics and panicking in the pocket. It was a combination of everything.

@jakebuchsbaum3348

Жыл бұрын

I agree with that but I also feel like the jets were trying to build a good team around him

@leelovitt1828

Жыл бұрын

Zach was literally always that player watch something other then his high lights and you will see it

@pcarlson214

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he should have, but Wilson was pick #2. That is a pick for a 1st year starter not a developmental project. Now it's true, you can't always tell if a given college QB is NFL ready, I get that - but being NFL ready is why the Jets drafted him. The NFL is a tough business.

@peugeot120

Жыл бұрын

He’s always missed easy throws and had poor mechanics. He was just able to get away with it in college. Don’t forget he only had 1 good year in college.

@newagain9964

Жыл бұрын

Bruh. Zach wasn’t ready for nfl anyways. Now he’s just plain bad & No team has time or $$$ to rehab him. Unless NYJ eat all his contract. Even then doesn’t leave much time for a team to fix him.

Wow, what an inspirational and motivating coach John Beck is. Kudos to him for having that kid's back and being thoughtful and honest in how he answered Rich's question about Wilson.

@dylantodd9574

Жыл бұрын

What was honest about that? He was super positive and supportive, but he didn’t actually answer the questions except to sort of say there were throws that Zach needs to get better at. Really? That’s the reason he failed last year?

@billshun3963

Жыл бұрын

@@dylantodd9574 agree, he says whole bunch of nothings.

@robert-ws4li

Жыл бұрын

@@dylantodd9574 do think it was all Zach'fault? His offensive line was sporadic at best. I think a third of his career interceptions have bounced off his own receivers. Now the kid looked like he was throwing the ball to the other at times so I am over that crap. So some of it was definitely him don't get me wrong. But the end of the Lions game he was moving the ball under a lot of pressure and with better clock management we could have won that game.

@is0sceles

Жыл бұрын

@@robert-ws4li None of what you wrote changes the fact that this guest didn't answer the question in any meaningful manner.

@lino580nunya5

Жыл бұрын

@@robert-ws4li Bengals offensive line is horrific and Joe Burrow plays at a pro bowl level…I’ve been a Jets fan for a very long time and I’m still hoping he can bounce back and play well for the Jets…you have to be honest he hasn’t played well at all

And there’s the Steve Young reference. Like clockwork.

This would be a great opportunity. Zach has all the damn talent, and he can sit and learn behind his favorite player.

We needed to get him a strong offensive line for him to even have a chance. After seeing Geno turn it around so long after his jets career makes me think Zach can be better

Man this felt like a PR run

worst thing about the whole situation is the jets realized at some point they were in win-now mode while a young floundering quarterback was in project status. the jets organization should have realized this sooner and gone and made big moves to grab a veteran quarterback instead of just now finally going after aaron rodgers. and zach - even if he has all the physical components necessary to be a great quarterback - might not be able to bounce back mentally.

I totally agree that it's all up to Zach to re-energize his career. I have never written him off, but he has a lot to prove to us, that he is not done as a Jet. I will root for him to make it happen.

I felt like I just listened to a politician talking about everything except the key problems lol

@Edward_Strong1982

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!! He talked around EVERYTHING. I got absolutely nothing out this except for he tried to remain positive about Zach even though he knows the truth 🤣🤣

@noelv1976

Жыл бұрын

He's not going to talk negatively of the Jets organization, what's wrong with you lol. He's not trying to burn any bridges, nor Zach's.

@calebjohnson7976

Жыл бұрын

You wanted him to discuss his individual practices or his mechanic problems? He already does that everyday with the qbs he works with. It’s ok to be inspirational once in a while and take a break from the xs and Os. That doesn’t make someone a slimy politician. It’s not like he’s trying to be your qb coach lol

@hamsicle

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Dude is full of it. I wrote a comment about what Zach's real problem is. Hint, it's between his ears.

@dbyrd7492

Жыл бұрын

Hey Douchesicle, its hilarious that you think your "comment" carries so much weight. What about the load of crap between your ears. Tell us more about that.

I think Zach Wilson is one of the most physically gifted QBs from an arm talent standpoint. He’s right there with Stafford and Mahomes (pure arm talent-wise). He’s super young tho (only 23) and literally started @ 21 yo. He still has a ton of potential and most of his issues are maturity based, not talent based. Only he can fix it. But this will be an opportunity for him to prove it. He’s definitely not done. I hope he gets it worked out.

@Gtrips07

Жыл бұрын

Not gifted between the ears

@cedricbryant6360

Жыл бұрын

@@Gtrips07 he was crushing his moms best friend more than he was crushing that playbook.

Good for you John Beck

I mean look what the jets did to Geno smith & look at Geno last year.

@AndyPolon

Жыл бұрын

It took Geno a long time to develop with lots of stops along the way. Why not Z

Zack wilson wasn't ready to play in the nfl period, he is talented enough to build in to a starting qb but it will take time the jets put him in and the pressure got to the kid . He will eventually lead this team once he just lets it go

@christopherjones2669

Жыл бұрын

Yep 9ers drafted 3rd pick, got qb, in 2021 AND kept Garapolo

Steve Young has a great journey and Story. USFL to the Bucs, to the 49ers QB2 under Joe Montana to League MVP, SB Champ and MVP.

@cedricbryant6360

Жыл бұрын

That’s also how much coaching and system matter.

I really hope he puts it together and succeeds. I want it to be in NY with the Jets, but if it isn't, I'll stll.root for him.

Great message in what beck was saying

I hope he’s right. Adversity brings out the best in champions.

I enjoy hearing this guy talk football and QBs.

The kid has the physical talent. And I’m rooting for him. But it doesn’t take a “guru” to see that the game was still fast for him and he has maturity issues. I’m thinking Zach needs a mentor for his character. That being said, I’m sure the coach is tired of all the negative and harsh people. And I’m sure Zach is as well. But that’s where the maturity part comes into play. Being bigger than what is pushing you down is the start. Good luck to Zach. I’m hoping he figures it out. This is a tough environment. Fans are mobs. Treat them as such.

Real talk - do you honestly think Rodgers is going to fix New York? If Rodgers was so darn good - why has Green Bay only won ONE Super Bowl with him?

@jakebuchsbaum3348

Жыл бұрын

Well Rodgers is better than anything we have now

@mikegreen3613

Жыл бұрын

If the Jets get Rodger ( I don't believe it will happen) for a conditional pick it will be Favre all over. Johnson will put asses in the seats but won't pay out those bonuses.

Wasn't John Beck the QB couch the Jets kicked out?

It’s a nice, flowery sentiment but the reality is for every Brees or Young there’re 10 or 20 who just flame out. The never-were’s. The odds are against Wilson.

@cedricbryant6360

Жыл бұрын

His talent is up there though. But So was Jeff George and Jay Cutler (physical tools). I think this kid doesn’t have those types of jerk-like qualities? I’m not a Jets fan so I don’t know about his day-to-day struggles or attitudes but he’s got that same generational arm talent traits and that’ll keep him in the league for him long enough to get another chance. He’s still very young but I think he may be closer to this guys than Young or Brees. Hopefully he proves everyone wrong. He’ll have an opportunity to do so there or somewhere.

Spoken like a man who knows what he is talking about. This is the perfect opportunity for him to improve.

Impressive perspective!

I still believe in Zach with the Jets

Perhaps Saleh should have hired an offensive staff with experience developing QBs instead of filling up that unit with personal friends. HC + OC + QB Coach have all combined to develop zero franchise QBs. In Zach's rookie year, the Slot WR led the team in career pass attempts before week 1. Passing game coordinator was the ONLY guy with any experience. Saleh never bothered to replace his position entering Zach's second year.

This guy talks like a politicion. He sells hope and doesnt actually talk about the issues and what to do about it.

@evrgrn7518

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Snake oil salesman.

@christopherjones2669

Жыл бұрын

Negative Eisen is problem.

Not everyone is an NFL QB. Zach just isn't. When I saw his pro day throws that everyone was going crazy over my thought was JaMarcus Russell and Kyle Boller could throw the ball that far to.

@brianflon6310

Жыл бұрын

Did you publish that thought, Nostradamus?

All of the qb's in the nfl have the physical skill set, every godamm one, it's what they have between their ears that makes the difference, gotta be able to process info fast or the mistakes will pile up

This guy has the management ‘say a lot but say nothing’ slang down

John Beck pumps me up...

Failure is the best teacher. Also Aaron Rodgers is a pretty good teacher too…

@tracyisbest

Жыл бұрын

Good teacher = Failure Good teacher = Aaron Rodgers so.... Failure = Aaron Rodgers?? Is this what I'm supposed to get from the lesson? A=B, B=C so A=C. Transitive Property, right? Do I get an "A"??

@davidharrison9324

Жыл бұрын

Noo..he isnt..have you not seen what he does with rooks and new players..full in criticism of others!!!

@CarShopping101

Жыл бұрын

Rodgers is known for being the exact opposite. He has never taken extra time to teach rookies

@drewbaucom8897

Жыл бұрын

@@davidharrison9324 Aaron Rodgers happens to like Zach Wilson in case you guys just havent followed the stories…. He never like Jordan Love because he was drafted to replace him. Aaron Rodgers and Zach Wilson are friends, he’ll teach him everything he knows.

@davidharrison9324

Жыл бұрын

@@drewbaucom8897 isnt he the guy who said it isnt his job to help learning QBs///

Zack is a good farmer, he throws it in the dirt 5" in front of the receiver

They brought in Flacco to be a non-competitive mentor. They’re quite clearly washing their hands of ZW

Very positive 💪🏾💪🏾

There is 0% chance Zach will be the franchise qb

Someone like Mike McDaniel would be a good coach for him. Very positive coach. I hope someone gives him another chance. We all need second chances.

@kevinwasilewski598

Жыл бұрын

They just grabbed Mike White. Not happening.

This gave me flashbacks to an AMWAY convention

Seems like good guy. I would have asked if the spotlight turning to A Rod this might be a plus for Zach. Wether he's #2 or #3, if he can just grind during the off-season and training camp like Beck says, how could he not get better? Zach seems to love the game and he clearly has talent. His ego gets the best of him and he let the circus of NY Press and expectations get to him. Regardless he might never be an NFL starter again. But the only way we'll know is if he does the work.

I like Zach....hopefully he becomes QB1 EVENTUALLY... with the NYJETS!!!

Nice Speech ... Beck couldn't "fix" Zach. and Zach couldn't fix Zach. Happens John Beck whiffed

I still believe in Wilson and hope he responds well to adversity and the opportunity to learn from all of this.

@r3tr0actiongamer24

Жыл бұрын

Me too

@ramonejones6749

Жыл бұрын

He's a bust

@ramonejones6749

Жыл бұрын

​@@r3tr0actiongamer24 he's a bust

@LeGoat18

Жыл бұрын

Yes he's already won a Superbowl...

Why doesn't anyone tell underlying truth to Zach's 'errant throws' and 'bad decisions'? All of these QB's are super-talented, obviously, but if you can't see the field, read defenses, and do it with poise and composure, you will always stink in the NFL. 'We gotta clean that up'.... like, HOW? I just described Zach, why can't these guys?

@jessejordache1869

Жыл бұрын

Go watch J.T. Sullivan's all-22 of the first game of the second season. Take another look, particularly at how fast he goes through progressions or throws players open. Because saying he can't see the field or read defenses is just wrong.

This dude is full of it. The problem with Zach is very simple, but incredibly tough to fix. His issue is that for lack of a better phrase, he has stage fright, performance anxiety. He does have a ton of natural talent and I'm sure when he's in practice and low leverage situations he's good, even perhaps great. However, the issue is that when he's in high pressure moments, aka the NFL, he is unable to control the noise in his head. He panics, he looks at the rush far too much and then everything falls apart. What he needs is not a football coach, or a QB coach, but a sports psychologist. He needs to learn how to push back those natural instincts to panic. Simply put, he needs to learn to slow the game down so he can execute. Far easier said than done. I come from a classical music background and watching Zach play, it's painfully obvious to me that this is his issue. I've seen it time and time and again in performers who just were not naturals so they always had to fight that stage fright. It can be overcome with training and practice. The true greats are naturals and don't have this issue. They can put all that noise to the back of their mind and ignore it. Zach will never be that, but if he can learn the skill, he might have a chance.

@michaelbarrister429

Жыл бұрын

What you posted here does not contradict what Beck said. At all.

@jessejordache1869

Жыл бұрын

That happened to all three quarterbacks. Watch Mike White against Seattle, where the line actually held up better than any game after week 6 - After getting pounded by Minnesota & Buffalo, he got the yips. He was backing away from a line that had him totally protected, and throwing interceptions because he would backpedal until he could no longer reach his target. Zach Wilson at least had to have someone after him before he got spooked. Also, teams that do this right don't throw rookies out with no coaching and a horrible line and expect the game to slow down in their first year (I know Zach Wilson has played 22 games, which is a season and five games, but his loss against the Patriots -- his first loss of the season -- was the beginning of him being booed constantly, and that was his 18th game.)

@easyxpress

Жыл бұрын

If it's the stage fright problem, it's fixable with experience. As you age, you gain wisdom and can self-control a lot better in all areas.

@JM-vf8tk

Жыл бұрын

@@jessejordache1869 You expect a guy who had his ribs destroyed to not play scared behind a weak o-line? A healthy White gives the Jets a chance. Wilson can’t read defenses and is scared of getting hit. No sports psychologist can fix that.

@cc352

Жыл бұрын

True. I always felt this. This is one area where don't know if it's coachable except through repetition and experience. It's similar to basketball when your team is down by 2 and you're at the free throw line with 1 second left. I've seen great players short-arm at least one of the free throws many times. You need that ice in your veins and that's something either you have or don't.

I have lots of hope for ZW still. Go Jets!

as a Dolphins fan, I have no idea how he’s considered a guru with how HORRIBLY he played at QB.

Very first question he gave it away: "I would say....I mean ZACH WOULD TOO!" Nope. Nope he wouldnt. He WAS asked "anything your fault" Answer: "no." There's the problem: bad character, you cant teach that.

@brianflon6310

Жыл бұрын

Stop lying. That's not what he was asked. The question was, "Do you think the offense let the defense down?" And he said no. It was a stupid answer, but not one that deserved the reaction that it got.

Is Flacco so washed he doesn’t count as a vet presence?

@brandonl2555

Жыл бұрын

Yes. But also, flacco wasn’t brought in until half way through the first year.

@bradleysample3246

Жыл бұрын

You don't know the deference between Flacco and Aaron Rodgers ? Who would you rather learn from?

@jessejordache1869

Жыл бұрын

Didn't Flacco draw a line at mentoring? I remember him taking the full Brett Favre. He's also the worst of the three QBs, so...

@noelv1976

Жыл бұрын

Flacco was bad for Darnold and he was bad for Zach.

@CaseyWinehouse

Жыл бұрын

@@bradleysample3246 You don’t know the difference between difference and deference??

I went to church with John Beck. Great guy. Love his parents!

@eastonsaccount

Жыл бұрын

I went to Mtn View he’s a legend

@KingWizard26

Жыл бұрын

@@eastonsaccount same! Go toros! 🤘🏻

Zach is done in NY. That’s my guess. Also, Beck saying that Saleh is a great coach kind of felt like he was saying there were other coaching issues he’s not going to talk about. Great misdirect.

@caleblarsen5490

Жыл бұрын

There might be a reason the offensive coordinator is Nathaneal Hackett. Just saying.

Kinda want the lions to pick him up and let him learn and be in the locker room for a year or 2 and see what he’s got. A bit of help could be good for him.

Number 2 overall pick needs to do more than work hard and be a good kid 😂

It's called coaching THESE QUARTERBACKS THAT ARE YOUNG

Word up 🖖🏼

I knew two years ago I prayed I was wrong but Zach being the main man day one. In New York. Every defense was salivating at the chance. Poor Zach didn't stand a chance. Go ahead new York. Cut him. Do the kid a favour before you ruin him.

Who did BYU play??

@bricethompson1922

Жыл бұрын

Who did Wyoming play?

The NFL is a whole other level. Talent alone doesn’t triumph in the NFL, especially at Quarterback. Look at all the other great college quarterbacks that had immense talent (Matt Leinart, etc.) but couldn’t cut it at the next level. Zach Wilson likely falls into this class.

@redcomet0079

Жыл бұрын

You know nothing about football

media is funny. Im old enough to remember how many of these people who make stupid great money just to express their ""expert opinions said that Zach Wilson was going to lead the NFL in passing yards last year.

I believe in Zach

Yeah you couldn't say it any better

Wilson sucks he's a great kid but that doesn't cut it when you the franchise QB! Cut your losses and draft a QB and get Rodgers in there with this team so they can compete for a playoff or better yet a championship.

Is this the same John Beck that came out of BYU and played for the Dolphins?

@caleblarsen5490

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

I bet this guys time shares are the best time shares.

@LeeCorrigano-xd1vd

Жыл бұрын

Yes

That was F’n motivating! Go Rams 2023!

Spoiler Alert: Zack is a backup at best.

I just don't get the feeling Rodgers gives a damn about helping his backup get better.

It a very short book .zacks done .would you play him ?

Anyone else think “30QB” said BOOB at first

Wilson and Lance are giant wildcards for draft night. I think both could be had for a 3rd, maybe even a 4th.

Any quarterback's best friend is a good running game. I can't say the Jets have had that in the last few years.

Not a Jets fan..but..Remember how Eli struggled at first..people called him a bust!!!

@its570Key

Жыл бұрын

Eli also didn’t throw his defense straight under the bus with no accountability lol

@mikegreen3613

Жыл бұрын

Elli came from a pedigree family no wat was going to be one.

Well spoken dude, hope for the best regarding ZW. Probably best to trade him. For both parties.

Rams need to pick him up work under Stafford and McVay then see what he can do.

I've seen 2 of these with this qb "guru" and I'd like to hear a little more specificity. This guy is pretty vague

@Michael-ld2np

10 ай бұрын

as a Dolphins fan, I have no idea how he’s considered a guru with how HORRIBLY he played at QB.

Jets went 4-1 with Zach Wilson throwing a total of 1 TD in those games.

I agree he had a bad OC, but when Flacco and Mike White have the same players and offense and outperform you, it doesn't bode well

Zach is the white Malik Willis 🤣🤣🤣

@jkrasney1

Жыл бұрын

Willis is not even an XFL QB. Zack Wilson needs to understand leadership intangibles.

@DaseanCrazyogiMcAlpin

Жыл бұрын

@@jkrasney1 they both are dumpster juice , Zach was trash in college. Y’all always love to give white Qbs passes and more chances.

I want the best for Zach but he spent 5minutes saying the same thing over and over again. He didn't say anything specific

I want to say that he's done in NY. It's not just the play, but his current situation is not ideal. He's going to be a backup in his third year, and if Aaron Rodgers stays for another year then he'll be a backup for year 4, with a 5th year option probably not being accepted with how bad he's been. If he wants to succeed I feel like he needs Aaron to retire after one year, just to get another chance to play. Knowing the Jets, he'll end up signing with the Colts or something and be a HOF QB there, while the Jets still look for an answer.

@mikegreen3613

Жыл бұрын

As if one year under a guy who is 90% ready to retire will help zack.

John Beck Was a Horrific 2nd Round pick by the Dolphins . I believe he Never Won a Nfl Game as a Starter .

He sure thinks he's a guru. I do like that he, as Wilson's guru, doesn't accept any of the blame for Wilson's failures. Remind me again who he's actually helped? And its not just him, there's the guy in California who worked with Sam. Lots of talk, no QBs.

Man zach can play!!! Watch everybody is going to riding him in a hot second

John beck was an absolute dog at byu

So are they picking up his 5th year?

I’ll take Zach in New England

Boss, flaco was there. That's a vet

The only good thing is to be a back up 🤣🤣🤣🤣 forever

Why can't it work here in NY he's still so young still so talented . I won't be surprised if he's one of the top qbs in the league in 5 years

@cc352

Жыл бұрын

That's why it's imperative that this Rodgers trade comes through. We need to put some distance from last season for Zach. Once AR gets here, this will be his team and Zach will be in the background resetting himself at which point, in a year or so, it wouldn't matter if his next shot is with us or another team.

Ship him to the bay lol

IF THE JETS can trade him..IF he has any value...I hope they trade him to DENVER..or somewhere with coach that can build him back up

Sounds like Zach learned a lot from John Beck. Maybe Beck molded his attitude.

Didn't need cook another offensive lineman would have made more sense

Lol I don't get why he couldn't coach himself into not being a bust

John Beck is AWESOME

Not1 time did he blame himself or mention mayb he cuda help in dif ways sum1 else gonna end up wit up him wit a better coach & turn him in2 sumtn

Sounds great except he’s a #2 pick overall and he’s gonna have to get paid in 2 years. Same situation as DJ except he prob won’t get to play to showcase what he can do unless A A Ron withdraws to the darkness…. 👀😂

He had no accountability in the press room, that's where he screwed up. He left the defense high and dry

This narrative that Zach Wilson should have sat behind a vet is hilarious. Please I’ll wait for the list of QBs taken 2nd overall in the past 15 years that haven’t started immediately.

@jakebuchsbaum3348

Жыл бұрын

The only TOP 2 pick that was a QB who sat behind a veteran was Eli Manning

@stevhen6

Жыл бұрын

And he ended up starting after week 10 of his rookie year and finished out the year as the starter.

@stevhen6

Жыл бұрын

But yet a bunch of credible ppl making excuses for this guy is a joke.

@jakebuchsbaum3348

Жыл бұрын

@@stevhen6 the jets should have taken fields

@brianflon6310

Жыл бұрын

I like Zach, but you're absolutely right.

Can someone? Maybe Can jets? No

This was as bad as Nick Saban politicking for Bama in the playoff