Difference between him and Burrow was Burrow played in the best division in college against a ton of great teams and had arguably one of the best years as a gb in college history. Burrows first year at LSU wasn't terrible either. It was mainly the offense that was ran under his first year. There was no doubt Burrow was legit heading in to the draft. No clue how people thought Zach Wilson was going to be good.

@isaacvelasco6498

Жыл бұрын

There isn't a solid way to tell whether a player will be an all-star or a bust. The teams drafting QB's are taking a gamble and are usually rebuilding teams with multiple holes in the roster, not just QB. I think QB could be the hardest position to draft for because there is so much pressure placed on QB's.

@sosadagod6963

Жыл бұрын

Burrow had an ex nfl offensive coordinator who ran a pro style offense. He was bred. This guy is a joke to sell tickets. The jets have always been a joke franchise. If they thought this pretty boi was their savior , that tells u everything u need to kno about them

@gabrielforero9007

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacvelasco6498 I knew Wilson was gonna be a busy when we drafted him. Was kinda obvious he can’t let grown men to war. How did the jets make such a big mistake

@mlamonster6244

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielforero9007 Very few Jets fans were thinking that and I was happy with the Wilson pick because I thought and many Jets fans thought he was our guy at #2. If it was truly that obvious why would they not only draft him but almost all of the mock drafts have Zach at 2?

@gkelly650

Жыл бұрын

Gonna disagree my dude. He was solid in college and played against good teams. Yes Im surprised he’s not balling out. Maybe he needs a fresh start. Baker Mayfield is a Bust

I've never seen a QB get booed after every incompletion 😂

@garenthal9638

Жыл бұрын

Jets fans know they and the team deserves better

@Windyyyyyyyyy

Жыл бұрын

Because some of them are legit the most mind numbing misses in the world.

@Jamax99Jetfan

Жыл бұрын

They booed after 3 play of game. NY fans boo everyone. Even Judge got booed. Zw needs to get traded. To much pessure here in NY

@Windyyyyyyyyy

Жыл бұрын

@@Jamax99Jetfan because we want to see a championship team. Not even kidding:

@lawrencegenedavid2288

Жыл бұрын

I was apart of the crowd… I never would boo someone like Judge. But Wilson is different. He’s not an NFL QB. The rest of this team is ready to break the 11 season drought. We’ve seen what this team looks like with Quaterbacks like mike white and hell even Chris Steveler and it’s totally different. QB’s need to be able to keep drives going and stay in the pocket under the slightest amount of pressure and he cannot do that. Unfortunately the jets once again have wasted a top pick and that is worth booing

I attended his final game. it felt like the most unhappy crowd at a sporting event i've been to. the rain, the wind, and the absolute melancholy feeling was a horrible sendoff to this kid.

@joshsloan1030

Жыл бұрын

WE LOVE STREVELER. I was at the game too very cold and sad to lose 3-19 in the rain. Streveler was better than Zach which was concerning. Maybe Strev can step into a Tsysom hill type role. Zach is not him and I hope we can get some trade value our of him and get a vet QB next year not another one from the draft who will take long to develop

@14TND88

Жыл бұрын

@@KrisCreider apparently you because you cared enough to respond

@michaeltaylors2456

Жыл бұрын

I felt sorry for fans watching who shoulda coulda been their QB in Trevor Lawrence’s poise and talent made Wilson’s ineptitude a thousand times worse

@dereksavastano

Жыл бұрын

me too bro, Booed like mad men when he threw that check down 3rd and 20, First off he got really lucky it wasnt a Full House because thats some shit he would hear at night when he’s going to bed. And yeah man it wasn’t even that bad w the rain, the cold and wind was a nail in the coffin for sure, But when we start at the 15 and cant score idk what tf was going on. He didnt throw the one to Moore on a streak that in the NFL id consider as Wide Open.

@Windyyyyyyyyy

Жыл бұрын

@@dereksavastano Elijah moore has become irrelevant this season and it’s also annoying. Again, joe douglas needs to be better. Our fanbase praises him too much for being, at best, average.

Wilson is already becoming an afterthought. I like the idea of getting a seasoned vet and having White back him up.

@DerPro-fu6ps

Жыл бұрын

Gardner Minshew to NYJ confirmed

@nombreespablo

Жыл бұрын

vets go to the jets to die. look what happened to Joe Flacco

@gdfhnt

Жыл бұрын

Rodgers

@radicalbongos4190

Жыл бұрын

Derek Carr maybe ??

@tyler7937

Жыл бұрын

@@gdfhnt Yea right lol. AR would rather retire than go there. The Jets roster is just as bad if not worse

What NO ONE mentions about Wilson’s “BREAKOUT” Junior year is that because of covid rules, all the Pac-12/Big Ten teams cancelled their non-conference games. What that meant was that BYU did not face their most difficult competition in 2020. In each of 2018/2019, they faced at least 3 ranked teams from those conferences. In 2020, they did not have to play the likes of Wisconsin(2018:6), Utah(2018:18, 2019:12), Washington(2018:11, 2019:22) and USC(2019:24), which they faced at least once in the 2 previous years.

@PistolP33

Жыл бұрын

Idiot jocks in the NFL are too incompetent to discern this element. Lol

@WidgetWagyu47292

Жыл бұрын

That’s a ver valid point

@Abyssiondubs

Жыл бұрын

This is so true!!!

@henrim9348

Жыл бұрын

I knew Covid had something to do with it.

@747RAWR

Жыл бұрын

Good observation

Honestly the breece hall injury may have been a blessing in disguise with hall on the field Zach looked like a competent qb without him he can’t do anything

@r3tr0actiongamer24

Жыл бұрын

Great point

@juanventura5692

Жыл бұрын

Exactly 🎯

@Windyyyyyyyyy

Жыл бұрын

This isn’t good either way since hall is also drastically a massive part of their run game. Now we see carter barely even getting to 60 yards a game

@TheHighlanderprime

Жыл бұрын

ZW is very green. And I think Saleh’s a good guy and a good coach; but ZW really needed a much better and mature offensive system and probably an offensive minded head coach to slowly bring him along. The Jets have now proven that they destroy developing QBs, not develop them. This is not to say that he doesn’t have a lot of issues to iron out; but unfortunately for Zach, he was drafted by the wrong team for his specific needs … I just have a lot of problem with analysts like JD Production immediately going for the low hanging fruit, that ZW’s already a bust.

@jetted_out

Жыл бұрын

Well said, I said that broncos game. This is gonna make or break him. Breece was bailing him out.

I’m not in the Locker room so I don’t know for sure, but watching the games with different QB’s, especially when Streveler came in, it just felt like the players cared more and played harder than they did with Wilson, it seems to me like nobody in that locker room wants to play with him

@TehRyify

Жыл бұрын

Agreed and not that Zach doesn’t deserve blame, but if that IS the case, it’s really an indictment on Rob saleh and the coaching staff to allow that to happen

@Snipes-76

Жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what it is

@jessejordache1869

Жыл бұрын

I can be reasonably sure that Wilson is sort of introverted. Like Streveler's squeeze of Garrett Wilson's head after he fumbled, like "don't worry about it, kid", isn't something I've ever seen Wilson do. Mike White is also a better team captain. That comes with age and success, and helps, but I don't know how critical it is. But the offense springing to live was because Streveler totally discombobulated the Jaguars D -- his first two passes, first to Elijah Moore (dead on target), second to Uzomah (barely catchable -- all Streveler has to do is throw it close enough that Uzomah can catch it without diving, and it's a touchdown) were to receivers that were completely uncovered. I don't mean open, I mean there was nobody on them -- Uzomah was behind the secondary in the great lawn in central park at midnight, with officials playing the part of random winos. THAT's how open Uzomah was. And I've already said he was behind the secondary, but it's worth saying it again. That's the biggest defensive breakdown I've seen all year. Makes the blown coverage at the end of the Lions game look like Huff's strip sack of Josh Allen at the end of Buffalo at home. You will never see the coverage just forget about receivers with White or Wilson at QB. The defense simply didn't know what to do, which led to Streveler gaining yards, which led to more hyped up players. I kind of think Saleh messed up by revealing that look in garbage time, because once defenses scheme for it won't be as effective. I think the locker room issues are just reporters looking for gossip. When Wilson punched the air in frustration in the Lions game, the commentators just went and assumed it was at the QB. I wasn't so sure, because Wilson had thrown it inside of G. Wilson, and Wilson had been running flat only to suddenly slow down without turning, which was the second time I had seen that exact same miss, when you shouldn't see a WR run that pattern at all. (The point is "run flat out for 15 yards in man coverage and then stop" is not a route. Cut in, cut back, all of those, sure, but you don't just stand there: MLF gets criticized but I give him credit not to have that anywhere in his playbook). Later reporting said that Wilson had been held almost the entire fourth quarter, and he had pointed it out to the officials, and four plays later, three of which he had been held, Wilson targeted him when he had been illegally pushed out of position. I'd be mad too -- that was the second game the refs had been "punishing" Garrett Wilson. A single play of that BS is too much, forget about on and off for two games. Sometimes the refs act like a bunch of thugs.

To quote exactly what I commented on another video: As we have seen with literally EVERY replacement QB for Zach over his two seasons, the offense is fully capable of putting the QB in positions to succeed and put up numbers. Zach is the only one completely failing to do so.

@jessejordache1869

Жыл бұрын

This is literally the opposite of reality. You prefer two quarterbacks who in their combined six games have two wins, vs the only QB on the Jets roster with a winning record, and had to play the defensively tough part of the schedule.

The Jets ALWAYS miss really bad on QBs! Across multiple coaching regimes! It's insane.

@viewtube9666

Жыл бұрын

It’s one position that they could never figure out.

@SillyGoose2024

Жыл бұрын

joe namath!

@TheHighlanderprime

Жыл бұрын

Hint, it may just be they bring in the bad staffs to develop QBs; so young QB who might have had a chance, ends up getting ruined by the Jets.

@vulcanraven9701

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheHighlanderprimenah, they just dont know how to choose good QBs. Great players make the best out of bad situations.

@kosherkush283

Жыл бұрын

Its woody johnson whos buddies with the “Jet Blue” family” not Joe Douglas who picked him. Maybe the owner should let them do their job and stay tf out of it. Not a doubt in my mind.

I'm not a Zach fan but Jets starting him instead of sitting him down a year like P Mahomes really shows. The dude has lost his confidence and got a big rude awakening that the NFL is unforgiving

@chevy4x466

Жыл бұрын

The jets do a poor job of developing young qbs.

@jessejordache1869

Жыл бұрын

@@chevy4x466 I've been thinking about it and I don't think it's ever happened: they've either been serviceable out of the gate, like Ken O'brien, or they've understudied a skilled veteran, like Chad Pennington did, who was great out of the gate. We've never had an Eli Manning, for example: someone who needs a couple of years.

@chevy4x466

Жыл бұрын

@@jessejordache1869 ya, that’s rough. The jets passed on Dan Marino for O’Brien. I am not a jets historian, but I remember O’Brien being a good player. In reference to Zach , he is from Utah. New York City may not be a good fit. He was not ready to start in the nfl. The talent is there. But the jets r squandering the draft pick, just like Sam. A rookie qb can typically start in a smaller market on a total rebuild. Stafford, Russ, Herbert , luck , manning….. It’s getting tough to watch this jets situation play out.

@jessejordache1869

Жыл бұрын

@@chevy4x466 Yeah, the Jets have a member in both the Marino five and the Brady six: Ken O'brien was the only one of the Marino 5 who wasn't a total bust and even made the pro-bowl a time or two. And Chad Pennington was as good or better than Brady until he got injured. They were both really similar in style -- their names and "dink and dunk" got thrown together all the time, but Pennington was #1 in most efficiency stats, with Brady at #2. One thing I miss was Pennington's gaudy play action: he'd even fool the camera operator, and turn his back totally on the play for a few seconds, only to whip around and pass it to an open receiver. It was like a magic trick. You're right, I don't think New York is a great place for QBs to struggle. Until yesterday I was actually under the impression that Wilson had missed his first year training camp due to injury: finding out that wasn't true has made me look at him with a less optimistic eye. But for a ton of reasons, this is not a good place for him: the OC is a better fit for a Mike White or Pennington type, the offensive line collapsed, and New York is a tough market. And the Quarterback position is HARD -- I consider myself a pretty smart guy, but when I try to put myself into making the decisions with speed that they have to do it, my head spins off. Add a terribly injured offensive line and I would probably curl up into a ball. He may do well sitting a year under Aaron Rodgers. They're similar: they've both got heavy artillery, they both are accurate (WHEN they're accurate) throwing off base, and they're both threats to scramble without being full blown rushers.

I think his biggest issue is his awareness and lack of scrambling when the pocket collapses and even then he had time to throw or make something out of nothing.

@charlesrupp3976

Жыл бұрын

Uh no, his biggest issue is that he’s not an NFL level QB. No amount of fixing his mechanics or prioritizing escapability is going to fix the fact that the game is played too fast for him at the NFL level. Some guys can’t adjust to the speed of the game from college to the pros. Wilson couldn’t. He still plays like he’s in college. Which won’t work at the NFL level, and he’s demonstrated a complete inability to work with anything outside of what worked in college. There’s no improving this kid. He is the worst first round QB drafted since Paxton Lynch. I’d take Josh Rosen over Zach Wilson.

@zacharyspurlin957

Жыл бұрын

Yup… he has a monster arm but lacks just about everything else

@munchmacuchi7502

Жыл бұрын

Do jets fan want him to have one more year aka one more shot or are they ready to move on?

@charlesrupp3976

Жыл бұрын

@@munchmacuchi7502 I’m not a jets fan but I’m sure they want him gone. He’s lost the confidence of the locker room and the confidence of the fan base. Unless he has two amazing games to end the season, I don’t see him in gang green next year

@eleventy-seven

Жыл бұрын

His failings as a team leader are his most glaring deficiency.

I'll be honest most of my hype for wilson came from Chris Simms, a guy who until then I trusted a lot more than most when it came to evaluations as he seemed to often go against the "safe" consensus opinions while being right in the end. Simms absolutely raved about Wilson and made the case that his Junior year was just about flawless in every aspect of qb play. He also had Garrett Wilson way down on his WR list too, though I really only payed attention to his QB takes. Let's just say my trust of Simms has taken a nose dive.

@kingofcrows8829

Жыл бұрын

The only reason Simms is even a football analyst is because of his daddy's name. I still don't get how straight up scrub qbs can correctly analyze talent for a position they couldn't play

@doctorphilmcgra

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, if you make takes long enough as an analyst you're due to get burned eventually. Also some players thrive in different environments. If Mahomes went to the Bears with Nagy as his HC I bet he would've wound up as some guy & if Trubisky went to the Chiefs with Reid as his HC he probably would've had an Alex Smith type of career. It's rare that even talented players can overcome bad coaching or bad talent around them

@seanc7342

Жыл бұрын

Well most of those guys who make "safe" picks are clowns anyway rest of this class looks pretty bad right now outside of Lawrence (maybe Mac Jones???)

I saw a report earlier today that the Jets do plan to move on from him. I think that's the right call, regardless of where he was drafted. Let him be someone else's reclamation project. The Jets try to land a good veteran free agent or maybe trade for someone who can win now with that roster. Wilson is clearly an anchor around the neck of the rest of the team. When both Mike White and Streveler immediately jump start the exact same offense, that's all you need to know.

@pato6672

Жыл бұрын

2 #2 picks in the whole draft! Darnold and Wilson, yikes. Guess that's why you're the J E T S, Jets,Jets, Jets!

@dereksavastano

Жыл бұрын

@@KrisCreiderHe didnt hit google before speaking, Guys a clown speaking confidently about something he knows nothing about.

@TheHighlanderprime

Жыл бұрын

That wasn’t a report. That was Jay Glazer's opinion. If it’s the right call, I’m hoping that the kid goes elsewhere and prove that the Jets was just the wrong environment for him to succeeding; this would also place crap on the face of everyone who prejudged him as a bust without allowing more to play out over a solid 3-4 seasons during his development. FYI, Mike White has 4-5 seasons of NFL observational experience. Streveler is 27; and he’s had a hardcore experience in the Canadian league. Both of their experiences superseded Wilson’s very low floor. So before passing judgement about these guys being better, I’ve always thought they’d shine given their seniority; but the priority was to develop Wilson, not play these guys with their higher floors. So your analysis of the situation lacks nuances. Despite the good draft picks, too many things went wrong in between, to say that Wilson was properly developed over the 22 games he’d played.

@johndavis6719

Жыл бұрын

That would be stupid to move on from him.

@kingofcrows8829

Жыл бұрын

Lmao a shit talker who doesn't say their team should go back to their parents basement

Remember when J&D production said that Zach Wilson was going to have an amazing 2nd season?

@BigJ1000

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the times have changed

@garyumstetter7381

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Tony Romo said it too

Remember after his pro day I said he was overrated and would suck but people kept calling me a 🤡 hater. They quiet now 😂.

@Zenigundam

Жыл бұрын

Everybody knew that. Trevor Lawrence was the only QB worth drafting and a future hall of fame caliber player. This was all about marketing. Teams draft QBs at the top of the draft and lie to casual fans who don't watch college football so that they can profit off of their names. It didn't matter if drafting DeVonta Smith or some other player instead of Zach Wilson would have won the Jets 4 Super Bowls because it's all about profitability with these owners and GMs, so if Wilson could be marketed such that he'd generate a dollar more than any other player, at the expense of winning, they were drafting him.

@jamesnelson8469

Жыл бұрын

@@Zenigundam hmmm too early to say that imo. I think fields was worth drafting he’s just playing with literally no teammates. Management got rid of defense players and didn’t add any real offensive players which are mostly all hurt anyway. He’s currently throwing to receivers most people have never heard of while getting sacked every play. But I’m bias. Next year and a 100m later we will know more.

@juanventura5692

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesnelson8469 I agree. I never saw it with Wilson. I had my doubts. I agree Fields had some physical tools you can't teach. I thought he would actually be adecuate if given and opportunity.

@Eastnewyork2106

Жыл бұрын

Preach

@guacamole6856

Жыл бұрын

No one said this guy was good..

On 4th November you posted a video titled ‘Trevor Lawrence is a generational bust’ so in the spirit of thinking you’re full of shit in your analysis, I think Wilson will turn it around

Really didn’t think he had a chance, before he even took a snap. What the hell did the jets see in him. Even his college highlights, repeatedly not hitting receivers in stride, etc.

@estuardodacaret

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps the arm, mobility, different platform throws, able to make plays off structure etc

@kingofcrows8829

Жыл бұрын

@@estuardodacaret and that's all added up to nothing

@estuardodacaret

Жыл бұрын

@@kingofcrows8829 so far no, probably won’t, but that is what the jets saw in him, he does have the physical attributes needed to succeed

@jessejordache1869

Жыл бұрын

​@@kingofcrows8829 He IS the only Jet QB with a winning record this season. But honestly I don't know what you expect when the entire offensive line goes down. Either way, it's obvious that the Wilson/White issue has totally left the rational world. I thought the Zach haters just didn't understand football, but now that White's starting, it turns out they DO know what an offensive line is, and are suddenly worried about it. Like, the instasacks of Wilson led to comments that he has no pocket sense, instead of sometimes you're getting sacked no matter what you do. But now suddenly the QB has gone to "holding the team back" to being less important to whether the Jets make the playoffs than the line is. Go check Buffalo Jet Fan's "Can White Lead the Jets to the playoffs?" Every other comment is "if the line holds up" lol. Which means their expectations that White can even finish above .500 aren't so strong, and they're already contextualizing. If you're not willing to use the same standards for both quarterbacks, then something other than their quality is driving you. Don't know what it is, but it's not finding the best QB. I'll be honest -- White is likeable. He's also kind of cute. Wilson isn't as easy to like. He's sort of introverted. I get it -- I don't really care, but I see it. Whatever you get out of sports is whatever you get out of sports.

In Chess....20 good moves can be meaningless if it's followed by a "major" blunder. All that good drafting by the Jets GM spoiled by taking Z.Wilson over J. Fields. SMH

@jamesnelson8469

Жыл бұрын

Right and fields is playing with the worst receivers in the league right now with bottom half defense and bottom quarter offensive line. However I think they gotta hella capital for next year

No, NFL didn't miss on Wilson. It's the JETS, they missed on lot of QBs. Sanchez, Donald & now Wilson. They were all picked Top four & under pick in the drafts. Yup, it's not NFL, it's the JETS.

This was Markelle Fultz like, he just lost the ability to play the position

@trell25

Жыл бұрын

Nah Markelle can hoop still

@therealgmoneyd

Жыл бұрын

Or maybe because he really never had it

@YOSSARIAN313

Жыл бұрын

@@therealgmoneyd nah. He was legit in college.

NY was the worst place he could have gone. Utah to NY is culture shock. Starting as a rookie in NY with all the distractions and press it's not surprising he has struggled. If he had a year to learn and adjust maybe things turn out different.

@demidon117

Жыл бұрын

As someone from Utah, I cannot agree more The sheer size difference between Provo, Utah and NYC is bad enough, then you take the cultural differences into account and it’s amazing he’s still showing his face in New York In Utah, being a good looking Mormon will get you everywhere. Wilson was the textbook definition of “big fish in a little pond.” The culture shock must have been awful

Can we just let Mike white be the guy? Dudes him, I promise he is

@ChromePlatypus-

Жыл бұрын

100% agree, glad u see it too.

@je3421

Жыл бұрын

Yeah idk man, he's a guy you maybe keep as your number two, hoping he might further develop and become consistent. Right now, he's not the guy, hes better than Z. Wilson so far though. He's played extensively in 7 games at this point (four last yr, three this year), after not playing at all his first three years. He was not good at all in two of his four last year, with five solid quarters, gm 2-3. This year he was excellent his first game and has not been good the last two. He seems like a guy who can give you a spark for a week, not a guy to be THE guy.

@garenthal9638

Жыл бұрын

Too injury prone

@ChromePlatypus-

Жыл бұрын

@@je3421 Yeah I couldn't disagree more with your assessment. He played 2 full games last year and set franchise and NFL records in 1 of them. He hasn't played a bad game of his 3 starts this year. He shows higher than average arm talent. Some of the throws he has made made me jump out of my seat. For the paper-stat squares, also half or more of his INTs were tipped by WRs.

@ChromePlatypus-

Жыл бұрын

@@garenthal9638 He got rocked in the ribs for 2 straight games, finished both games and was ready to go despite being held back by doctors. How in the fucking fuck is that injury prone. Any other QB would have also had fractured ribs from the hits he took.

He’s Only a BUST because the Jets put him in position to be!!! he’s the same guy he’s always been a 3 ⭐️ prospect who shined at a smaller school and should’ve been a day 3 pick

@yaahlabanyamyan144

Жыл бұрын

Yeah ....uh NO. He's GARBAGE 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@prestigeshogun1534

Жыл бұрын

Put him in position to be a bust? I didn’t know giving him a 1K yard receiver with 2 OROY candidates, Elijah Moore, and Corey Davis is a bad position. You clearly don’t watch.

@Aus10Ham

Жыл бұрын

@@prestigeshogun1534 I think OP is saying he shouldn’t have been the #2 pick and if he was picked up in the 3rd or 4th he wouldn’t be seen as a bust at all

@hoosthere

Жыл бұрын

Byu isn't a small school

@MU-nf9tl

Жыл бұрын

@@prestigeshogun1534 Garett Wilson, sure. Who’s the other OROY? Breece? Who’s been injured all year. They were undefeated with Zach, Breece and AVT. Corey Davis is injured every other play. Moore didn’t play 3 games because of trade controversy. And their OC is an inexperienced play caller running someone else’s play book. They’re 2-4 without Zach this year, only averaging 2.5 more points a game. Their coaching staff left 3 wins on the table. MLF dials up crossing routes for Berrios and corner routes for Uzomah/Conklin in RZ, that’s criminally mismanaging your personnel. Shot gun sets on third and ones. If you draft a project pick, you probably shouldn’t surround him with a brand new coaching staff. Has Zach been terrible? Yes. Can you call him a bust? Who’s knows yet, someone will pick him up most definitely, we’ll see what happens. Fans were calling Darnold a bust because Adam Gase, our worst coach in recent memory, couldn’t develop him. How is that fair? Ironically he’d be the best option at QB on our roster right now.

As a Jets fan I’m so sad. We finally have an elite defence, and of course our QB play is so subpar…Maybe next season we can start with Mike White and try to build something offensively

@badgerden7080

Жыл бұрын

If I was a Jets fan, I would be sad too.

I said it with confidence Zach would be a bust when he was at byu. I knew some team would draft him and waste a 1st rd pick. Unfortunately it was the Jets and with the 2nd pick.

@Theplug926

Жыл бұрын

He honestly should have been drafted way way farther tbh

@maximus1318able

Жыл бұрын

@@Theplug926 he def. Shouldn't have been a 1st rd pick. But he killed the combine and teams fell in love with his arm.

@kayla-Rey22

Жыл бұрын

Weren't you one one of those who said Trevor Lawrence was a bust after last season?

@Djintrovert47

Жыл бұрын

I did not want the jets to draft Zach Wilson.

@Chesse711

Жыл бұрын

Yeah okay lebron

First, and I agree, but I think if he sat behind a decent QB and learned the NFL game, he’d probably be a little bit better.

@yaahlabanyamyan144

Жыл бұрын

Not. Major L 😂

@ChillConservative2k15

Жыл бұрын

No bruh, he's just not cut out

@DaberTheGamer

Жыл бұрын

A-Rod?

@19eightyforeisnow

Жыл бұрын

Doubtful,he should have been 4-5th rd pick at best. His family payed draft speculators to over hype him and the jets got swindled.

@apple-xx2or

Жыл бұрын

Flacco a sb champ threw 0 picks in the sb run dude could of picked his brain while coming back to me Zack gotta change his mentality

As a Jets fan, it pains me to see how Fields and Lawrence were doing. No idea how we didn’t take Fields over Zach; played well against actual competition. I believe if you plugged him into the Jets he would have great stats this season, and we would have a playoff spot clinched already. Especially given the fact Garrett was his college teammate, that dude would probably already be at 1200 yds and 10 TDs by now As it stands now in the real world and not the fantasy realm, Mike White just got cleared and THANK GOD. I think we resign him to a two to three year deal after this season and let him be the bridge to another young QB if Zach doesn’t pan out (which he more than likely won’t). Contractually speaking the damage id already done with Zach so I see no use in cutting him outright, just bench him and let him work on his fundamentals and maybe learn how to play the position lmao. In the meantime, if we give Mike White the reigns next year, get AVT, Mitchell and Breece back healthy, draft/sign another OT and pray the line can remain healthy for a full year, and then shore up the final few holes on our defense (FS and LB) I think we can be a 10 win team next year. One can only hope

@joeknight8128

Жыл бұрын

Fields is more of a running back than a QB. Wildly inaccurate, and questionable decision making skills.

@ledflaplin2001

Жыл бұрын

@@joeknight8128 Shut up with that nonsense!! Fields has a good deep ball and he’s decently accurate. What you’re not taking into account is that his wide receivers are terrible and are often in bad position to make plays. Give him some actual receivers and watch him work. The whole “he’s a running back” narrative is stupid and plain lazy.

@anonanon8794

Жыл бұрын

@@joeknight8128 Hahaha, "Wildly inaccurate". His receivers aren't even running the right routes half the time. Fields can sling the football. Give me a break lmao

Dude is a modern day JaMarcus Russell.

@zedoggie3006

Жыл бұрын

Only the jets 😵‍💫

@thealternativefactor6694

Жыл бұрын

JaMarcus Russell without the Purple Drank..🥤🍇

@WidgetWagyu47292

Жыл бұрын

I saw a stat the other day and there stats are damn near the same except Zach is actually worse the JaMarcus.

@TinoR626

Жыл бұрын

@Leland Thompson and both guys had better stats then Steve Young.

@whosaidthat84

Жыл бұрын

Jamarcus Wilson

I feel bad for kid, because we ALL KNEW he shouldn't have been drafted that high. And to make it worse, he was drafted to one of if not the toughest fan bases to make happy. The Jets ruined this kids confidence. I think if he was drafted in the early 2nd round or something, his career would be going different. But I think that one pass running left and flinging downfield during his workouts sealed his fate being drafted 2nd

@Zenigundam

Жыл бұрын

I don't feel bad for him. He got paid $9 million to be awful at his job. Not to mention that he used his final year of college to dupe the putative "experts" into raising his draft stock. He's the type to put up nonrepresentative pictures of himself on a dating site to trick girls into meeting up with him.

@jamesnelson8469

Жыл бұрын

Yeah a back up to a non desperate franchise for a few years and then maybe could get a starting job and be a decent starter but shit teams that draft these kids and throw them to the wolves and then shit on them when they don’t ball out like Herbert in year one.

@Mystic_man727

Жыл бұрын

WE ALL KNEW?? Who the hell are you. There is a reason you are a nobody. You say the Jets ruined his confidence...You internet clowns kill me. Dude was NOT a second round prospect. Since you know so much, lets keep in touch. Give your 1st round mock draft for 2023 and come back in 2 years and lets see how much you know....haha, ARMCHAIR clown

@DwayneIsK1NG

Жыл бұрын

@@Mystic_man727 you sound salty 😂. You must be having a bad day buddy because for some reason my simple comments made you turn into the armchair clown 💀. Hope your day gets better buddy

@DwayneIsK1NG

Жыл бұрын

@@Zenigundam but is it worth it when your mental health is being effected? Not saying his mental health is bad, but being booed constantly by your fans and knowing that your own teammates don't want you throwing them the ball has got to be rough for the mental. Hope that makes sense

I feel like Sam Darnold wasn't even that bad. Yea there was some issues but he played really hard. Zach Wilson doesn't even play like a NFL QB he looks like a Hs player out there. Mike white might not even be the answer but he's at least something.

One pro day throw made him a millionaire and a nfl starter

Look at who he was playing against while at BYU. Of course he looked good.

@chucklamantia3067

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Zenigundam

Жыл бұрын

He was a 2 or 3 star recruit coming out of HS. Yes, those rankings matter just like USNWR's rankings matter in an academic sense (e.g. UW-Madison is not Princeton). The vast majority of elite NFL QBs have been 4 or 5 star recruits or the equivalent thereof. Also, the Jets were responsible for not getting Trevor Lawrence, but they still could have drafted DeVonta Smith at that spot. One draft pick doesn't mean much in the NFL. You can draft a kicker #1 overall and win the Super Bowl as long as the rest of the team is solid. Drafting QBs at the top of the draft is all about marketing: selling jerseys and putting fans in the seats. The Jets couldn't care less about drafting logically as long as their 1st round pick proves marketable.

@chucklamantia3067

Жыл бұрын

I AGREE

@raddudekyle

Жыл бұрын

It’s insane that jd didn’t realize that. It should be obvious

@noahbrecker8453

Жыл бұрын

and during a covid year too, which inflated his stats

Too bad the Jets got rid of San Darnold. Looks like he's going to take Carolina to the playoffs this year

@SlumpDF

Жыл бұрын

if they kept him they wouldnt have Breece Hall. so worth it but unfortunate their qb is that bad

@wallywanker7435

Жыл бұрын

@@SlumpDF they would of gotten way more for that #2 pick then they did for darnold.

@justinkassinger8238

Жыл бұрын

Darnold is so injury prone. They are both trash.

@wallywanker7435

Жыл бұрын

@@justinkassinger8238 yea but one trash is better then the other. And zachy boy gets hurt all the time too.

@KINGkong3747

Жыл бұрын

Panthers ain’t going to no playoffs😂😂😂

J you are so right. It's sad that it's happened but it is what it is.

Jordan Love deserves an opportunity to start. The Jets should definitely take a shot at him this offseason

@TheChicagogamer

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@joemarr5383

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree trade Zach and a pick and have love and white duke it out in camp

@dereksavastano

Жыл бұрын

depends what its cost, U cant give up a 1st tbh

@joemarr5383

Жыл бұрын

@@dereksavastano maybe 3rd or 4th

@TheChicagogamer

Жыл бұрын

@@joemarr5383 imo the most love would cost would be a 3rd and a 7th maybe a 6th

I don't think he's a bust,I think they picked him too high and are justifying the pick,by playing him too early,sit him for a year are two and give him extensive teaching and I think he can be a good QB he needs to be on a nutrition and weight training program to strengthen his body and had about 10 to 15 pounds of muscle.

@kamb26

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I think way too many people are saying he’s a bust bc he’s the number 2 pick. Frankly what number the team drafts you is meaningless. Look at Tom Brady and Brock Purdy. I think that the Jets should let him sit for a year or two and learn. Aaron Rodgers did the same thing. Reports were saying he was horrible in coming out of college and needed extensive coaching. So many people are quick to dump a QB if they aren’t good right away. Also I looked up Joe Burrow’s stats. In his first year he was pretty comparable to Wilson in his first year. 🤷‍♂️ Every QB won’t figure it out right away.

@mrprimor8639

Жыл бұрын

@@kamb26 Burrow was significantly better than Wilson in year one

Justin fields is laughing

There’s a long way to go for this kid, a change of scenery may be a blessing for him. I hope good things are on the way for him.

@TheHighlanderprime

Жыл бұрын

My sentiments exactly! I don’t agree with takes like JD Production at this juncture. He’s running with the low hanging fruit narrative that’s quick to pass final judgements. Wilson needs to be with a more nurturing organization that’s more creative and knowledgeable about how to groom a QB. Bringing in an inexperienced head coach and offensive coordinator to develop a young QB with a low floor has a very little chance to succeed … And doing this in NYC with a fan base strictened by PTSD that’s ruthlessly impatient and cruelly judgmental, makes for an extremely volatile situation.

This is what you said about Trevor Lawrence 😂. Look how that turned out. Looks like he is leading the jags to the playoffs.

“Why Zack Wilson will dominate the NFL in year 2” 😅

@starguy2718

Жыл бұрын

That didn't age well.

What Zach needs is to step back for the next 18 months and work very hard on his game. He needs to be humble and hungry to learn. The best place for him is in a backup situation where the spotlight will be off, he is learning from a veteran, and working with a coach that will push him and not baby him. If he does this and realizes it is about the team and not him, it is about hard work and humility...he still has a fighter's chance. He has good arm strength and I have to believe his accuracy would be much better with more confidence. A fit for him could be Tennessee, Denver, Seattle, or Atlanta. All teams that will need new qbs in the next few years (maybe sooner) and may be willing to take a flyer on him as a backup. It may work and it may not.

@charlesrupp3976

Жыл бұрын

Dude just watch him play. His biggest issue isn’t accuracy or mechanics, it’s the speed of the game. He can’t adjust to it. He has shown zero improvement from year one to two. Hell he looks arguably worse this season because the Jets are a really talented team. And it’s all because the game is played too fast for him to keep up with it. Some guys can’t do it. Rosen couldn’t do it, Lynch couldn’t do it, Quinn couldn’t do it. And neither can Wilson. He’s not going to be anything at this level because he is not mentally fast enough to play this game in the NFL

@plembonicities6263

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesrupp3976 It is likely what you are saying is correct. If I were a betting man I wouldn't bet on him making a successful return from what just happened. All I am saying is that it is possible and there are examples of qbs who didn't look very good in their first few years (Allen, G. Smith, Hurts) who eventually settled down and became good. None of these guys were anywhere near as bad as Wilson has been. When someone is playing nervous it makes it impossible to play the game with instinct, which is what all successful NFL qbs do. If I were a team searching for the answer at qb, I wouldn't rule out having him as a 3rd string or on the practice squad in hopes that he would improve. Much more likely that he takes the route of Josh Rosen than Josh Allen.

@charlesrupp3976

Жыл бұрын

@@plembonicities6263 the big difference between all of those guys is that they showed some improvement from their rookie year. With the notable exception of Geno Smith, who was always good enough to be a backup in the right system (he’s had good games before his time in Seattle), none of those guys struck me as players who would be horrific busts. Wilson is more comparable to Rosen, Quinn, Lynch, Manziel, and Russell. Even guys like Daniel Jones and Mac Jones have something there to work with, even if their ceilings aren’t very high. Wilson has shown nothing, and everything they’ve tried to work with and improve he’s failed miserably at. He doesn’t seem like the kind of a guy a change of scenery would benefit. I think he just doesn’t have what it takes to play anywhere. Maybe the Niners could do something with him, since they appears to be the QB whisperers of the league at this point, but they have 3 QBs already, and that leaves Wilson’s potential options to end up on a team that he can progress on very unlikely. Not that I think there’s much to progress.

@autrostic

Жыл бұрын

The colts are gonna pick him up for a 3rd!

I don't like Wilson, but I don't think he's a bust I just think he needs time in the league. He definitely lost the QB battle with Mike white, but I can see him having success somewhere else possibly. Even as a back up for a couple years.

@batmangummies5393

Жыл бұрын

He’s just way too early in his career to call a bust.

@CaratGlobbins

Жыл бұрын

He’s even lost the battle with Streveler🤣

@chucklamantia3067

Жыл бұрын

@@batmangummies5393 REALLY

@therealgmoneyd

Жыл бұрын

A backup at 2 is a bust

@MrRyan-wu4jx

Жыл бұрын

Nah, this kinda lack of pocket awareness just can’t be overcome.

I wasn’t high on Wilson, I never understood why he shot up draft boards… I always thought Fields was the 2nd best qb in that class and it sure looks like Fields has been that… Mac has looked better and even Davis Mills has looked better than Zach Wilson…

First video I've seen from this channel Very well researched and a nice deep dive and unbiased video well done my dude 💪💪 you got a new subscriber

Their GM has made so many home run picks that it’s questionable that he actually wanted him. It’s their owner that wanted him. It’s obviously the owner. You can’t convince me that a GM that drafted Sauce, Garrett, AVT, both Michael carters, Clemons, and Breece would draft someone this obviously flawed.

@richardjoseph8683

Жыл бұрын

He also drafted alot of crap player's!

Wilson still has a chance to develop into a solid QB. It’s not like the coaching staff around him has been stellar

@TomManning-cs4el

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 a he was a terrible quarterback

Zack Wilson benefits from how overrated the QB position is. He also showed how horrible the NFL media has been in their bias and “analysis”. Zack is a second overall pick getting over shadowed by a 5th rd pick from another team. That’s incredibly sad for the most impactful and important position. Now add on top you said that the RB who is a second rd pick is out that has more of an impact is even worse.

So much pain to be a jets fan. We can’t do anything right with QB

@ericwalker8775

Жыл бұрын

Jets fan since 1968. Yes it has been and is painful to be a New York Jets fan.

@seka1986

Жыл бұрын

@@ericwalker8775 that’s a lot of pain.

It’s too early to say he’s a bust. I think he’s lost his confidence and needs help getting it back.

@giovannygutierrez7331

Жыл бұрын

Nah bro he’s a bust

@johnnyblaze9543

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha. 100% a bust

@TinoR626

Жыл бұрын

People forget that most consider Steve Young a bust while he was in Tampa. His numbers were far worse then Wilson's at the moment.

@claymac7895

Жыл бұрын

He had no skills to be confident in. That’s the problem. He had all the confidence in the world his ego was enormous.

You're right, Breece Hall injury impacts Zach Wilson's confidence to impact as a QB. I'm sure the Jets missed out on the Justin Fields sweepstakes.

The Alijah Vera-Tucker (which happened in the same DRIVE as Breece Hall's) had a way bigger impact than the Breece injury by a mile.

I don't understand why people haven't been talking about Mike White being the future of the NY Jets. I think people see that his stats are mid, but as someone who watches the Jets every Sunday, I see that his film is way better than his stats.

@wesleythompson5241

Жыл бұрын

​@El Gaucho no but I think he has potential to be a top 10 qb, maybe even a better Kirk Cousins. Besides, the Jets team around him is so young and talented that you don't need a top 3 HOF qb to take them to the playoffs or even the superbowl. Next year, I think Mike White won't be an MVP candidate, but the Jets defense will be one of the best, if not the best, and the offense will be top ten with Mike White at QB. All he has to do is play decent, which I have full confidence in, when he has players like Garret Wilson, Breece Hall, Elija Moore (maybe), AVT and Mechi Bechtin.

When he played GB in a preseason game last year and in the regular season this year, all the commentators could do was GUSH about how good he’s progressing. I kept thinking all along (I’m a GB fan btw) is how incompetent those guys were. Our defense sucks and literally can make any QB look good. It just made laugh is all. I’ve always thought he’s never been that good. This year has very much proved that.

@MustacheDLuffy

Жыл бұрын

New York media

@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661

Жыл бұрын

The lesson is to never go by any announcers. Even former football players. Obviously you didn't, and neither do I... but I'm a Sooners fan and I remember one of them and someone else gawking over how great OU's new defense is and how Brent Venables has the team ready to go (against UTEP lol). And I think Gus Johnson (who is great) was gushing over how they 'looked different' in a good way against Nebraska. I knew that was complete BS, considering Nebraska at the time was in complete disarray. Just a few games later they lost to Texas 49-0 and had trouble stopping anyone in their conference.

@jessejordache1869

Жыл бұрын

How do you figure? Even Mike White die-hards have suddenly woken up to the fact that a QB is roadkill without a functioning line. By the time Wilson played New England -- his first loss -- we'd lost five offensive lineman for the season. We're now up to six. If you think that's the right environment to prove anything, you'd be getting rid of both of our excellent running backs (4 straight games under 50 yards rushing), and you'd ignore any QB's ability to stretch the defense vertically. Have it your way, except if I hear one complaint about the line over the last two games, I'm going to answer it with 10 around the internet about how White blew the season for us. Nothing against White, but we're judging QBs by Zach Wilson rules, which means no excuses, even if they're totally valid. No so-and-so dropped the ball (when has that ever matter with Wilson under center?), no so and so fumbled, no bad calls, and no matador offensive line. Unless you don't think White can measure up by Wilson (it's always the QB's fault) standards?

Zach has been a nightmare, but he's under contract and I personally don't want to see him get booted. Won't be able to trade him for much, so might as well see if there's any way to get him back on schedule. I think the bigger aspect to all this is that his teammates are clearly frustrated with him and do not like him. Combined with his low NFL IQ and terrible inaccurate passes, it might be too much to overcome. It still hurts to see a guy with so much potential tossed before his third year. Let him sit behind White (or a real vet) and see what happens.

@Jetup24

Жыл бұрын

He's a goner. Doesn't matter If he's under contract. JD will cut his losses this off season

@jake4919

Жыл бұрын

@@Jetup24 I agree that's the most likely outcome. JD is the man and I trust whatever move he makes will be the right one... Just wish it didn't come to this.

watching your excellent videos, i can't help but wonder if you made these in a las vegas lounge in the 1970s.

i say we go all in on someone like rodgers where zach can learn the game from all of next season and really build. U can even see in his pro day he looks way more confident than he does now

@yaahlabanyamyan144

Жыл бұрын

Some high end wishful thinking you have

@prestigeshogun1534

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely not.

@19eightyforeisnow

Жыл бұрын

Nope.

@bb-gc2tx

Жыл бұрын

rogers would love having zach behind him lol

@SUPERSPORT25

Жыл бұрын

@@prestigeshogun1534 so you’d rather have mike white or derek carr over rodgers

The thing with Joe Burrow was that the offense that Urban Meyer uses just didn't fit Burrow's strengths. Whether if it was Alex Smith at Utah or Tebow at Florida, Urban Meyer college QBs are dual threats, with designed runs as well as traditional passing. Joe can run some, but he wasn't what Tebow or even Dwayne Haskins were at the college level. Joe went to LSU and found the right system that worked for him, and now he's been killing it ever since he got to the NFL.

@Evilene52

Жыл бұрын

Not true about the offense that was in place during Joe's last two years at Ohio State. They were not running Urban's offense as Ryan Day had taken over as OC and moved away from it. Dwayne Haskins was a true passing quarterback and only ran occasionally, and mainly in one game against Maryland when he was basically the entire offense. He passed for almost 500 yards that game and ran for 2-3 touchdowns because the defense was the worst in OSU's history, well...until the defenses from the last two years 2021 and 2022.

I think he could end up being a serviceable starter somewhere down the line. He's still very young and he's not ready to be a starting nfl qb right now and thats okay, not everybody can be mahomes or burrow. Hopefully he can put it all together eventually.

Wilson is the guy that lied during the job interview and fudged his resume. After time on the job his coworkers are like, “who is this guy? Who hired him?” Lol

The one silver lining to having Urban Meyer as HC was that if the Jets would’ve gotten Trevor Lawrence, then Urban would’ve picked Fields based solely off of seeing him in an OSU jersey and that reason would’ve been more logical than whatever the Jets thought when they chose Zach Wilson.

Jets should try and get Jimmy G from the 49ers. Would be a good fit for that team plus he knows Saleh pretty well

@Smelly_nuts247

Жыл бұрын

Sooo basically stick with Mike White is what your saying right? Jimmy G is fragile and will get hurt by week 3, meaning White will have to finish the season.

@Vossenator

Жыл бұрын

Jimmy Garoppolo seems like a solid choice. The Jets need a veteran to win now. Jimmy Garoppolo wants a competitive team. Win-win.

@Benjiizus

Жыл бұрын

One injury prone qb for another

@spaceghost8995

Жыл бұрын

Ask the Bears if they trade Fields to you! lol that ain't happening!

@BernardGarcon

Жыл бұрын

Niners might hold on to Jimmy G. I don't think Trey Lance is 100% the future QB of the team and Jimmy at least provides SF stability at quarterback. Maybe SF fucks around and drafts a QB to mentor under Jimmy if Trey doesn't pan out, but I still don't see Jimmy leaving for the next 3 years at least.

Zach processes information at a HS level. That’s his problem. The NFL is too fast for him & the defenses are too complex for him to understand. QB is already such a hard position to play in general, can’t imagine playing QB against Bill Belichick’s Patriots who eat young QBs for breakfast. Let alone DCs who get paid millions to literally ruin your day/career 💀

I'll be interested in seeing Wilson on a different team. When was the last time the Jets developed a good QB? He might do better somewhere else.

But I thought Justin fields was going to be a bust

Drafting a QB top 5 is really risky unless the prospect is seen as having a high floor. If you're drafting a player with the ceiling of Peyton Manning, but the floor of Nathan Peterman top 5, even top 10, it's too risky to think about. At that point just draft the best edge or corner available.

@glaziuz7577

Жыл бұрын

Or an edge protecting O-line

The Jets should not let this situation hold them back. They pretty much have a complete team and have aced a few picks at several key positions on offense and defense. They need to get a veteran qb in that system. I would go after Derek Carr. Its also unfortunate this offseason FA and possible trade targets at quality qb talents are few and far in between.

He's like an entire spoiled generation who never heard the word NO growing up.

He’s got a better record as a starter 8-13 than Justin Fields 5-19.

Zach Wilson is a bust nearly on the level of Vernon Gholston

@TexasDragon

Жыл бұрын

And I don’t even know who Vernon Gholston

TLaw and Fields were always 1 and 2. Imagine if the Jets didn't try to get smart and just drafted Fields.

@busterbrown1686

Жыл бұрын

As a Bears fan, so glad they didn't

Im sad. I live in the east coast and usually work evenings by the time I get home byu was always on so they're like my second team. I didn't think he'd be good in the NFL but still was hopeful.

I think if he went anywhere but the Jets he’d be much more likely to succeed. A big market team with a rabid fanbase, and moving across the entire country is not what somebody like Zach Wilson, whose entire life had been posh and comfortable and in (comparatively) warm weather, needed I am *NOT* saying the Jaguars should have drafted Zach Wilson, but just for example, I think that would have been a better environment for him purely from a cultural standpoint, even if that would’ve meant somewhat higher pressure due to being drafted #1

As a bills fan I hope the Jets don’t go out and get Lamar. They are solid everywhere but qb. Miami too, I think you can easily upgrade from tua

Zack prospered during Covid in which BYU has a very weak schedule. All these numbers he put up or against weak teams.

Dude couldn’t play dead in a Western right now, but this is the Jets…he could resurrect his career with another franchise, you never know

@BigJ1000

Жыл бұрын

If u agree

@BigJ1000

Жыл бұрын

Sorry did not mean to say that

@jj7546

Жыл бұрын

You don’t watch football. Mike white has been playing well on the jets. All their qbs look significantly better than Zach

The Z man deserves another chance don’t be so hard on him…

Had Wilson had one more year in college, it’s likely he wouldn’t have repeated his 3rd year success but it would’ve given him more of a chance to develop before facing NFL competition. Fields openly admitted he was not ready for the NFL after his sophomore year, and chose to stay at the OSU for one more year

I remember when the season began and he was out 4 games or so. I told my friend this guy is a bust. The most remarkable thing is when i first saw his college tape and workouts i was not convinced. He doesn't look and never looked like a football player to me. He looked like a guy who made it but his game and body stayed in high school. I feel bad jets and giants keep missing put on elite qbs. I like Daniel Jones but he is not elite either. Very good but not elite.

Didn't Zach play pretty much against mediocre / lower-tier opponents in his college career? Why on earth was this guy the #2 prospect?

@TankZappa

Жыл бұрын

He threw 1 good pass during the combine. One.

@garenthal9638

Жыл бұрын

By that logic, niners taking an fcs player who played 1 game at 3 is stupider

@DennyJr22

Жыл бұрын

I mean Josh Allen played at Wyoming and Mahomes played against defenses in the Big 12 that were absolute sieves. NFL teams draft mainly on talent and potential, and while competition quality in college can help one's case it's certainly not the end all be all.

Looked like he was improving end of rookie year then this happeneds

@wallywanker7435

Жыл бұрын

Not really they just didn’t have him throw much lol.

Love you guys

We're gonna be a special team baby, we're going for the Superbowl! - Wilson Draft Interview

This dude should've went in the 2nd or 3rd round

@Chasingdreams_

Жыл бұрын

Nah undrafted 😂

@jeremyjames3633

Жыл бұрын

@@Chasingdreams_ facts

If Zach cares about getting better then he will get another chance with a different team.

It would take a spectacularly talented and mature QB to go to the Jets in the first round and not be a "bust." There's a reason the org has a reputation. Between the rabid New York media market and fans with delusions of grandeur regarding what a draftee should immediately deliver, any young QB is destined to fail. The organization clearly has no interest in / capacity to develop QB talent, and the fans don't have the patience. the Jets organization expects a savior QB to deliver a deep playoffs season immediately, but that is not a reasonable expectation for most QBs fresh out of college. I sincerely feel bad for Wilson. Despite the Jets doing everything possible to ruin him as a trade asset, I'm hoping he'll get picked up by a team with the infrastructure to invest in his development.

I’m seeing a lot of vitriol spewed at pundits and other media people who believed Zach was going to be good/great, and I don’t think that’s fair. Evaluators who don’t get to meet him in person can only go off what he shows on tape and in press conferences. Zach is talented and has every physical tool. His issues are mental and work ethic. The only people who deserve criticism are the Jets organization and Zach himself.

Didn’t you call Trevor a bust 🤡

@TheChicagogamer

Жыл бұрын

He also called fields a bust as well. But both those videos have aged like milk However I think this one is safe Only divine intervention is going to save Zack Wilson's career on the jets 3 years from now if Wilson's lucky hes gonna be on a practice squad or a 3rd stringer maybe in Tampa or Arizona best case scenario he gets signed to a team that goes on To win a Super Bowl and wins a ring just by being a 3rd string benchwarmer

RIP Zach Wilson’s career

Hearing that Wilson had a sprained PCL gives me phantom pains. I had a sprained PCL and wouldn't have been able to play an NFL game after just four weeks.

Get a vet qb, keep White and Zach to keep learning and improving. Jets gave up too early on Darnold and even Geno.

@maristoldboys5466

Жыл бұрын

@BabylonianCowboy Steve Young, Peyton Mannjng and others took extra time before they became legit. 10 years is not standard timeline but you've missed the point already.

Hope Jets draft a great qb this draft. They deserve a competent qb.

@Windyyyyyyyyy

Жыл бұрын

they'll never get that. this draft is awful

@nimeproductions7268

Жыл бұрын

@@Windyyyyyyyyy there are some solid qbs this draft wym

@Windyyyyyyyyy

Жыл бұрын

@@nimeproductions7268 you trust the jets to develop Anthony Richardson? Nice joke. This team ain’t gonna make him a star. They’re better off doing this next season.

@georgeliveris8517

Жыл бұрын

Jets fan since '76. They should never draft a QB again. They can't pick them, and they can't develop them. Free agency.

@ruinedcause

Жыл бұрын

​@@georgeliveris8517- This is the right answer.

It’s Ryan Leaf all over again

@chop3625

Жыл бұрын

Leaf was better than this

@qwertyutopia4667

Жыл бұрын

leaf wasn’t downright awful. He was average with a very high ceiling that he could clearly see, it was just his of the field issues

@Lolpy.

Жыл бұрын

@@qwertyutopia4667 Wilson has a litany of off field issues, which is why I see this as the same, just that Wilson on the field is mediocre at best.

@qwertyutopia4667

Жыл бұрын

@@Lolpy. yeah I’m just saying that leaf was much better as a player than Wilson

I still remember that he skyrocketed in the mock drafts and I didnt know why, in my opinion he wasn't better than jones, lance and fields as a prospect, the other qbs can make great plays too if they played against crap competition like zach did but I hope that the nfl draft "experts" dont commit the same mistakes of hype a lot a nobody that everyone knows that wasn't that good, even before he was drafted a lot of nfl fans knew that he was overhyped a lot

It's his lack of accountability, it's everybody but him. He got far because of his talent, but in a league full of natural talent where everyone is an elite athlete it becomes work ethic that separates you from the pack. He failed to realize his mistakes, failed to win over his locker room and ultimately failed himself. I wish him the best, and hope he turns his ego down a fuck ton. He will be lucky to get another starting opportunity, most likely stuck a back up from now on an elite back up at that. Not an elite starter but an elite back up for sure. Ultimately yes Wilson is a bust.

@johnchedsey1306

Жыл бұрын

I'd say Wilson's biggest issues are between his ears. Don't know if he needs humbled, a therapist or what, but I feel like he is his own worst enemy right now.

@MrThatblueguy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Was scrolling through so many comments and was like why is no one talking about his lack of accountability. That simple “No” response after being asked if he owed his defense an apology. He played badly which made him a bust with the Jets, but his attitude might be what keeps other teams from giving him a shot at all.

I hope he gets traded and goes on to a hof career!!!

Terry Bradshaw had worse stats than him in his first season, You never know.

@oddoperator3524

Жыл бұрын

He is in his 2nd season and is too cocky the Mormon Missile is full of talent but he never uses it he still has time but the clock his ticking fast

@Terror832

Жыл бұрын

Terry Bradshaw also played in the 1970s where it was normal for even elite QBs to put up numbers that would make Davis Mills look like a HOF.

@oddoperator3524

Жыл бұрын

@@Terror832 Yea the game was 10x more psychical and CBs were as big as WRs

Im a jets fan. Im done trying to get this team to draft a good qb it aint gonna happen. Give mike white a chance for the rest of the season, and take chances in feee agency cuz we havent drafted a good qb since pennington, and even he couldnt stay healthy. Id like to see if we could land minshew somehow and see if he can bring a spark

Red flags should’ve gone up when he went from a legitimately bad college QB to a projected 1st round pick in the NFL. Rarely is that kind of improvement real or sustainable.

Trevor Lawrence was a bust a couple of months ago.

Zach wilson got outplayed by a 4th string quarterback btw

@forzit8623

Жыл бұрын

no he didnt

@Piratesaregay12322

Жыл бұрын

@@forzit8623 He did actually. Strev did in about 13 minutes what Zach did all game.

@GTAIVman

Жыл бұрын

oh shi hey zach!

@forzit8623

Жыл бұрын

@@Piratesaregay12322 the opposition did not gameplan for the 3rd string QB anyone would look good