There is a lot of change out there. My company is trying to outsource at least 50% of the positions and my team was effected. I got to keep a position on another team (for now). I’m In the middle of trying to bail. I’m over product development, dev “culture” and company acquisitions just to hollow it out for a sale down the road. I’m honestly disgusted by it all. I’m going back to services where my job can’t be out sourced, LLMed and I’ll make 60k more.

@nerdobject5351

Ай бұрын

@user-gx2mk1tz5dI don’t dispute any of that honestly. You really can’t. The American Employee is becoming an expensive pain in the ass and social liability. But You can still find committed and amazing engineers in the US and as company be more interested in building products, solving problems and enriching the lives of the the country that is affording you the opportunity exist in the first place.

@nerdobject5351

Ай бұрын

@user-gx2mk1tz5d The irony here is that you can’t start new software product over seas as a new company. New companies always start here and when they big enough and acquired they let go of everyone who build the product and bring in cheaper labor to maintain.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

LLMed as a verb. 😅

@robertmazurowski5974

Ай бұрын

This is not the company's fault. This is all the government fault. They caused inflation, they did the lockdowns.

@steveheinemann1691

Ай бұрын

@@ChangeNode As computer scientists, we love to verbify our nouns. 😊

Around 2015 when the first useful AI software for scanning medical images emerged, the prediction was that the radiologist profession would be soon obsolete. That spooked a lot of medical students who decided not pursue degree in radiology Reality today: severe shortage of radiologist due to low enrollment rates in years prior! Software is also weird in a sense that it breeds the need for new software. For example, ad software breeds the need for anti-spamming and ad blocking software. Cloud computing was supposed to eliminate the need of sysadmins... Instead it created devops and arguably more work! AI/LLM will breed new jobs that we do not know of yet.

@calmhorizons

Ай бұрын

Based on how easily these models are hacked there is going to be a huge boom in security, just as an example.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Yeah, that's the "everyone drops out of CS and in 2-4 years it's a hot profession again" scenario. My take is that's likely but I'm less in the "predict the future" mode and more trying for the "here are scenarios and what they might mean" situation. tbh that's part of why I love the comments - see what people think is more likely.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

@@calmhorizons Yeah. The stones on someone who does stuff like hook an LLM up to a code execution environment, esp w/network access. I'm more bullish on LLMs as a local utility, everything agent-ish still seems like it needs human intervention for now. Very interesting to see some of the research/models esp on just getting the LLMs to follow the spirit, not just the letter. The social hacking side is also kind of mind blowing too. Phishing w/perfect voice mimicry... Ugh. This is making my head hurt.

@rodneyh1947

28 күн бұрын

The medical field is different. AI wont ever replace healthcare workers that are part of diagnosing or caring because you need human authority. Just like pilots. And many other professions. You trust AI completely to be your pilot? You trust AI completely to diagnose you? Of course not. The AI tools will only enhance the healthcare field, but for most of other professions it is taking jobs away LMAO

The best advice from this video is to focus on stuff other than CS. Even if you're aiming for a CS degree, you need to learn about economics, business, etc. Pick at least one thing other than CS and get a minor. Everything tech related is easy. Everything human related is complex, so you better find a way to split your school time to lean something other than tech. Plus, all the best software devs I met in the last 30 years never got CS or CE degrees. They were physics, mathematics, accounting, business, electrical engineering, etc. I ran a SE consulting firm for 19 years and, trust me, technology was never the hard part.

You deserve more subs. Great content and attitude. Also you have empathy and wisdom.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Thanks! :)

Now that you mention it, you do seem so mature and wise and calm and insightful and not begging for emotes... maybe you ARE ai.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

lol thanks. I've had quite a complicated, interesting, strange life. Helps with the calm a bit I suppose having perspective. :)

Thank you for your video. Other than interest rates affecting tech hiring, do you have any thoughts on Tax Code Section 174?

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Aside from a raised eyebrow at 1) how they haven't fixed it yet and 2) that it's not getting more attention, not really. My sense is that rates are the big one, followed by AI, and 174 is a third. I would guess that rates & 174 both are tweaked in the next 1-3 years, but the AI stuff will intensify.

Can you expand on your thoughts regarding the bell curve relating age to involvement in tech? Does that data include movement into management related roles?

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

My sense based both on data and working with tons of companies while doing consulting is that somewhere between 30-40 people tend to either move out of hands on dev roles into management or they find another field. Some move into team lead roles, a few become architects, some move to leadership roles esp for startups. I'd take that same curve that is in the JS survey and move it about 10 years over and maybe cut it in half and I'd bet that's what the tech management curve looks like.

Thanks for the video. Do you think AI will negatively impact dev ops jobs as well? This is a field that interests me but I have no tech job experience. I am halfway thru a MSCS degree and I’m comfortable with software basics.

@ChangeNode

2 күн бұрын

RE impact, absolutely yes, but in some ways I think it's going to affect job content/tasks more than eliminate it. If you haven't seen kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXuukqyRXdCspbg.html&lc=UgxcZ6alxmIt-_fy-Bp4AaABAg check it out. You might wind up doing things like deploying on-prem app servers and helping triage issues. If you like it and are cool with not making crazy huge tech salaries I think it'll continue to be solid.

@ChangeNode, What software jobs or fields would you recommend to a student with no work experience who is about to receive his first CS degree in a few months? I am strongly proficient with web development, but I think everyone is herding towards that technology anyway. My older brother is offering me to work for his gaming startup company as a Software Engineer, and I am beginning to learn Unity. You mentioned in this video to pursue robotics or data analytic instead? Do I need to pursue another 3-4 years in college? Do these fields even have many interns for people like me? (btw, I am from Canada where we have San Francisco priced houses and West Virginia based wages)

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Doh. Vancouver side or Toronto side? FWIW I know Vancouver had a bunch of tech stuff at least but not sure post-COVID what things look like (I'm in Seattle). Off the cuff: you want to get to 2-3 years of work experience. If your brother has a job take it, but IMHO you might want to consider focusing more on the backend (REST/SQL/etc) if possible as there are way more jobs in that space traditionally. WRT jobs & internships etc that's part of why I'd suggest networking ASAP as much as possible. Your brother offering a job is awesome, I'd still recommend keeping your eyes out for other stuff. A lot of it depends on if his gaming startup is making money or not esp WRT stability. Gaming is wildly oversaturated right now, but if there's a title that pops it can do well. FWIW I spent a year making store.steampowered.com/app/1208980/BlazeSky/ and while it was fun it worked out to basically a minimum wage job. Gaming is hard.

The most realistic KZread channel ever!

It would be good to have a video on software development consulting company from you. Thanks

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

I’m editing one on “should you write a tech book” now, I think the next one (next week)? will be on software dev consulting… 👍

Id be interested in a consulting video

In what window of time do you anticipate the practical utility and value of the AI bucket of applied technologies becoming clearer (including realistic economics, energy efficiencies, costs and returns)? And when do you anticipate this trickling over into the tech jobs market so the resulting shifts in labor demand become more obvious?

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Those are the big questions. And the short answer is I don't think anyone realistically knows. There are data points (like trying to look at compute growth), but nobody really knows. The short answer is that there are already a lot of domains being affected by AI and AI robotics. Today. There are a lot of people (including a lot of comments in this thread and the others) that would say they were laid off due to AI already. Sort of the old joke "a recession is when my neighbor loses their job, a depression is when I do" kind of thing. I think that we will know a LOT more within 2-3 years for how the AI stuff will shake out. I think the combo of AI + no/low code tools is going to wipe out a TON of jobs, but at least for the next 2-5 years I think the economy will look (more or less) the same, just a lot of dislocation/changes. More than five years out? Who knows. If the AI bots are only digital it may not be that big, but if the AI robots come along and are cheap enough...? Who knows...

Hi, Will. Your explanation is really good and useful, can you make a video Cyber security, Job Market in USA, How it will be in the future

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

I'm not a security expert - as a dev/architect, I tend to focus on app & system security w/a deny everything, make sure CI/CD is good and deploy patches asap sort of level. There's a whole other level of [cyber] security which includes a completely different level of attack surface & social engineering that I don't get into (mainly because I find it sort of depressing). That said, I think that there is a ton of stuff to be done, it's all going to 11 w/AI & LLM tech. My guess is that it's going to be very significant going forward, except for how most enterprises seem to underinvest/have a "chase the horse after it's left the barn" mindset. So, from a high level, similar to the advice for other fields. If you haven't checked out my tips for a Java developer to get a job video, I'd check that out first. It's 90%+ relevant I think for other tech fields. Take a look and leave a comment if there are other security specific things. :)

Could you create video with your vision of starting interprenership (web, mobile app, saas and etc)?

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm thinking of maybe doing ten minute vids on some of these pivot options. Maybe one on starting a consulting biz as well (much easier w/o a big pile of cash).

iI see quiet a few companies in a major city that I live in who claim to have not been able to fill all coding positions they have. I checked a few of their career websites and they do have a long list of open requisitions. Is there a gap between seekers and companies and linkedin has not done a good job ? some of these companies are looking to import people from overseas to code.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

It's a super weird situation. Not sure if it's a wage gap, something about the city, and/or a very bad HR process. If they are looking to import to code my guess is budget/wage issue. eg they want to pay $20-40/hour but local talent wants at least $50-60/hour -> "nobody wants to work, let's outsource" Hard to say w/o details tho.

@NitroBrewbell

Ай бұрын

@@ChangeNode Thanks. In PA/NJ/NY area, checked AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile and Comcast, I know they are not FAANG but they are still decent

@JoSmith0

Ай бұрын

It is the interest rate impact. The all company reduced cost as they can, new projects not started, current side projects stopped.

I lean towards the thought that AI will always be a tool rather than a replacement and the positive impact it will have on society will be greater than its negatives. I think some people didn't think the internet would be as successful as it was and some feared it, but overall it probably landed somewhere in between the skepticism and fear.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I think the long term will be very positive but the intermediate transition period could be rough. The more I read about the social/cultural dislocations of, say, the industrial revolution the more I think having some kind of plan or model is important.

@staying_substantially6186

Ай бұрын

It will certainly be a helpful tool, but nonetheless the current amount of IT jobs wil decline. We will absolute experience a period where the competition to get an IT job will be fierce. Eventuall it will settle down and we are going to see a decline of IT majors until it becomes a normal profession like any other. Change can be annoying, but this has to happen :D

What do the folks in their 60s who work in tech do more specifically? Just curious for a reference point. I have a few decades left before that I'd be in that situation.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Depends, some become fellows/architects. Off the cuff - some take quieter jobs esp doing maint on older apps/systems. Some move into management. If they save enough at lot retire early tbh. If you, say, bought a house when you were 30 in a place like SF or another high cost area and your house went up a lot you might just retire, pull out equity and move somewhere cheaper. Boomers retiring and looking for sun + cheap are a big factor for moves in the US now.

@yayinternets

10 күн бұрын

I bought my house a few years ago from a guy who is in his 80s and still works. One of my neighbors works with him and said that he does QA for firmware and is still amazing at it. I'm 45 myself and have been coding since I was a kid.. hard to imagine still doing it that much longer!

Great video! My personal response to the industry 2 years ago (while getting a little older) was to leverage my software engineering experience into client facing roles. Roles like Solutions Architect, Enterprise Architect, Solutions Engineering, Business Analyst, etc. I found that, I get to stay close to tech, grow in other ways across business vertical, wear different hats, improve and train in more soft skills. As I transitioned, more opportunities in tech became available, sometimes the money is a little better and sometimes it’s the same. I’ll say, it’s a little nice getting away from the code and looking at the bigger picture and, although there’s more responsibility, I feel I’ve gained new insights, skills and experience away from the bits. Otherwise, I think there were other great suggestions mentioned in this video, especially learning to network early and at every opportunity! Cheers!

Similar to the question “when will interest rates drop back to 1%”?” They won’t. We went through a very weird period of incredibly cheap money. The bar to enter the tech space was incredibly low and the opportunities were everywhere. The job market will definitely get better, but it’s going to be a different ball game.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

My guess is rates will drop if we get into a deflationary position WRT automation. Cheap debt will just exacerbate the issue, doesn't help with job loss. I'm editing the video on UBI I'm working on right now. spoiler: IMHO it's going to be a central bank/monetary policy model, not traditional fiscal. Deflationary math doesn't work out otherwise.

@JT-mr3db

Ай бұрын

@@ChangeNode I agree they will drop but not to the honeymoon period levels we all enjoyed for a time there. Whilst tech jobs will bounce back it’s within a much more capital constrained environment. That’s the material point.

@cifey

Ай бұрын

@@JT-mr3db Idk, it feels like the low rates were driven by politics, and the next administration that comes in might keep pushing for lower rates again.

@JT-mr3db

Ай бұрын

@@cifeyIt's very possible! I don't think they will hit those pre-pandemic rates though.

What is your advice to a new graduate of an associate’s degree who is currently lost, which major should I go to?

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

That's awfully close to "what should I do with my life" - only thing that pops to mind is an exercise I do about once a year and/or when I'm feeling like I need to [re]plan things. 1. Take a few minutes to just write down all of the things you want out of life. Don't edit yourself, just write them all down. 2. Walk away from the list and come back a day later, and review what you wrote down. Next, stack rank / prioritize the list. 3. Archive off most of the list, and pick just a few things. If you try to do too many you'll just flail. 4. Assuming that you'll need at least some money to achieve those goals, what mix of work will help you get to those goals? 5. Ideally, what sounds like something you will find interesting to work on to help you achieve those goals that most people would find difficult and/or unpleasant, but they need? 6. Flip through the course catalog for majors and compare the salaries with the coursework and figure out what you can do, what you would find fun, and would help you with those goals. Give that a try and post how it goes. :)

How do I start an agency or SaaS as software engineer or CS and whats your best advice

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Pick one. If you have access to capital you might start a SaaS, but if you don't have money I would start doing services. For services you just need to find one customer and try to get at least a few people billing, then repeat. First customer is the hardest. You need to know the domain/skill set well enough to hire/manage the staff, and you need to be able to do enough business development to find customers. Get these two books: amzn.to/3PN35mT and amzn.to/3PPG7LQ and you should have a good starting point. This would be a good video too, maybe next one? SaaS is much harder IMHO as you have to do a lot of upfront to even build a test funnel and TBH the space is swamped. Check out bubble.io and ponder...

I'm an international student came to USA this spring to pursue my masters here in IT with huge loans. However looking at this situation, I'm planning to return to my home country. Could you please let me know your thoughts ? Thanks in advance 😊

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Oof. I guess a lot of it boils down to the size of the loans and your networking ability/interest. If you think that you can network enough and/or have a lead on a solid job, that's one thing. But if you are looking at eg US$100k+ in loans for an IT masters in 2024 I'd think pretty hard about that. But eg if it's say $30k-$50k that's probably manageable, but that's probably not huge loan territory. But remember I am just a guy on the Internet (ahem) and you need to plan your own life. Lots of tradeoffs. If you think the networking will pay off go for it. My guess is that the market for IT stuff will stabilize/get better in 2-3 years but that's exactly the kind of bet that's so hard right now.

@rajeshraj68813

Ай бұрын

​​@@ChangeNodeThanks a lot for responding. My loan is around $50k which is considered as high when converted to INR. If I don't get the job it would take many many years to repay the loans with Indian salaries. I see many students who graduated in masters 1-2 back are still unemployed and struggling to bear living expenses. As an international student on F1 visa, companies will not prioritize us due to visa restrictions and this story never ends! I feel I'm totally screwed 😭.

My humble prediction is, AI might be here to stay and Nvidia might be the leader in innovation for it, but it could also play out how it did for Cisco in the early 2000s. Are they lead in networking; yes. Are there competitors; yes. Was it overvalued/overhyped at the time; also yes.

This job market situation is making me lose my mind. About to be a junior in college, fell for the software engineer hype because of the pay and didn't want to burden my parents with the cost even though I have zero interest in cs itself. I should've listened to my gut years ago and started college in bio -> physician assistant. I have the choice of switching, but it will be very painful because I'll need to catch up with a bunch of prereq courses, and direct patient care hours. Just shouting into the void I guess.

@ChangeNode

13 күн бұрын

Yeah, if you don't have an interest in cs... oof. FWIW if you are about to be a junior, hopefully you mostly got through core pre reqs anyways and didn't burn too much on specialty units that won't transfer well. tbh from what I can tell a lot of the pa field isn't very into computers, maybe that will give you a leg up esp if you want to move into a more mgmt role at some point. And stepping back for a moment, not looking at the data but just going off general impressions, I do get the sense that the medical field is going to be more of growth area for at least the next decade or two. Good luck!

I feel that AI effect will only start kicking in later next year. Current job market is mostly affected by high interest rates ie less projects but also job outsourcing. As someone who is outside Western markets I can tell you that companies in US and western Europe are laying off people and moving their jobs to markets with lowest possible hourly rate and this is a dominant effect not only in IT but most services industries. State of the economy for service industry is so bad that companies are cutting budgets wherever they can and job offshoring is primary way to do it. When you couple this with AI effect that I suppose will just kick in it's really a scary outlook.

@josh2482

Ай бұрын

People have been worried about outsourcing for decades, tech jobs only increased.

@kzelmer

Ай бұрын

@@josh2482 offshoring was never as easy as it is today

@HeavyKiho

Ай бұрын

@@josh2482 Was true when more new jobs were created than outsourced. Can't say that's true for current service industry market

4:32 "that's where you have to be realistic"

Do you do private consultation?

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Sure, mostly it's been for tech/dev stuff but open to other things. Contact info up at changenode.com/contact/

Thank you for creating this video. Hearing about the market prospects from someone with your level of experience is very helpful. It would be great if the video, which explores these types of themes, could adopt a less depressive tone of voice, please.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! I'm trying to shoot for a facts & education vibe. It's kind of rough esp when folks are talking about losing their jobs, but FWIW I'm at least *trying* not to be depressing...

Tech job market sucks now. What do you think about solutions engineering?

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

I've seen a lot of different definitions of solutions engineer[ing] over the years. What do you mean?

Never .The tech industry will end up having 80% fewer workers compared to 2020.

I dont comment because I barely disagree and just don't care. I think jobs will come back. I think the market is in a weird lull. And I think the market is also handling the effects of bootcamp students seeming so well prepared for a job, and also so lacking in fundamentals. I think ai will be a great assistant. But our company is in desperate need of devs, just unwilling to hire at this time due to market influences. Interesting time. But I dont have time to keep commenting lol. But I agree with the other 95%

I am 30 years old. Changed career during pandemic and started learning Python like a mad man for the last a 1.5 years. In the past 6 months I came across only 1 junior position. I had first interview 2 days ago and today HR emailed me that hiring process is stopped for this position. I am really near to giving up and going back to the village I came from 12 years ago 🤣

@Zuranthus

Ай бұрын

most jobs today are web dev, you should've been doin something like the odin project

@StaryDziadzio

Ай бұрын

So we have almost the same story, I was learning Swift then, same age. Now i cant find a job becouse there are like 10 junior jobs in the Europe and 100+ applicants

@hassanalijam4534

Ай бұрын

I am trying to learn python now so am i the dumb ass?

@Zuranthus

Ай бұрын

@@hassanalijam4534 if you want a job; yes

@StaryDziadzio

Ай бұрын

@@hassanalijam4534 i dont know, not that experienced. But i can see that Its kinda lottery, Maybe your skills will be in demand or Maybe wont. Hope you will find something, but i am done for that moment, too much invest with No return. I am going to find any it job that I can get and then maybe code again.

This idea that AI is always going to be exponential is extremely naive as well. Most of this stuff requires data and we aren’t going to create data out of thin air. It’s going to take a lot to scale the required data which will require exponential input

Here's a more practical approach: My trade(coding) is obsolete and so is my profession(teaching). I could create a new job with my skills by teaching teachers how to use AI and how to teach students to use AI and focus on skills that will be relevant in the future.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Any luck with that strategy, or is this a hypothetical?

@niamhleeson3522

Ай бұрын

you would probably find more success teaching AI how to use students

@WhyteHorse2023

Ай бұрын

@@ChangeNodeIt's a work in progress but I know teachers have continuing education requirements and this would certainly fill that hole. Plus they don't have 4hrs/day to do research on AI and how to use it so it's a win-win.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

@@WhyteHorse2023 My mom works as a teacher at a school that's focused on kids with issues that are serious enough to pull them out of regular school but are still functional enough to go to 1:1/small classes. She's been using ChatGPT to help out with the work load as much of what she is doing is bordering on therapy work. She says they have a consultant who's come in a few times to present on AI/LLMs/ChatGPT and they are sort of treating it like the English/social studies version of how the math people handle calculators. I don't get the sense that she's all that worried about being obsolete. The idea of throwing these kids in a room with a figure robot is kind of horrifying. If we get to full-blown Westworld robots that's a whole different situation.

graduated in '22. got into amazon. got laid off in 8 months lol. now working without pay in order to stay in the country with my f1 visa.. (with pay on paper) what am i gonna do, report my employer hhahaha trying to get into an ml phd or something like that

Hello sir Are you looking for a professional KZread thumbnail designer?

learning new tech stack is not going to help, it's better to figure out how to use what we already know

@ChangeNode

2 күн бұрын

Always a mix of building on what you know and adding in new stuff. FWIW two of my favorite books are Seven Languages in Seven Weeks and Seven Databases in Seven Weeks. IIRC I basically never used them (mostly I have done Java/C# and RDBMS) but it made me way better adding in more conceptual stuff. Also big gaps can hurt...

i don't think big tech can provide us jobs anymore, we need to create our own job

@ChangeNode

2 күн бұрын

Yeah, I think some mix of entrepreneurship is 100% the plan. Worst case go work somewhere 2-4 years and try to rotate into every role with the plan being to open your own shop. Lean in and just absorb everything. This is esp good if you can do services, as the bootstrap $ is way less and you get immediate feedback. Do that and try to get to a crew of at least 10 ASAP FTW.

When humanoid robots achieve the production levels of electric cars, they will be available for half as much as an EV.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the figure.ai CEO apparently said that they are targeting $50k, and others are saying $25k. A SuperRoomba that's more like TidyBot seems like it would be easy to get to $25k or less. Wild times.

Using DALL-E as the image generation example was disingenuous, midjourney is leaps ahead of it. Midjourney can create photo realistic images.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Yeah, Midjourney is better but I still barely if ever get usable stuff, at least for what I'm trying to do with it. I could do a whole video on image/video stuff and how/where it works and doesn't. I think a better/more interesting example would be something like this kzread.info/dash/bejne/mK1rw8Sqm5WfYso.html But ya caught me, I was being lazy and didn't grab the latest. Mostly I'm here for the econ side of things. ;)

the more ANI the better circumferential aspect of the AGI and as time move on so as demands .... if not countless many aspect safety and security also the AI do not mince words ---- the way how non biological intellect try to keep up with logic explicit BNA [pre emptives] differs than us speed is subjective [normal to equiv theorem tachyon] the question is -- number of nodes also energy resources ----

I would love to see a video on entrepreneurship. 1110001011001110001110001110000001112 my brother AI.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Any particular kind? eg apps, or consulting, or...? For grins I just popped that string into ChatGPT and asked it to analyze it. It figured that the 2 at the end was a delimiter and then wrote a Python script to decode the values as 8-bit ASCII values. And then it ran the Python and gave me the result. That gave back an invalid string, so I asked it to rerun it as 7-bit lower ASCII and it gave me another string. Egad.

negative topics will always get more views and comments

LLMS are cool but I can't see how they can take a a big software project with 15 microservices on backend and 100k lines of code and start creating quality merge requests based on jira tickets. That is just not happening. Everyone is talking about ai but in reality I can't see real use of LLMS in real life.

@Dom-zy1qy

Ай бұрын

LLMs increase developer productivity -> Less devs needed to do work-> Less jobs -> Ai stole our jobs!! I don't think most people think chatgpt is going to be architecting complex solutions.

@Smolandgor

Ай бұрын

@@Dom-zy1qy frameworks and libraries also increased productivity but less jobs never happen in grand scale of things.

Factory robotics is still out for another 8 years. They're too expensive, inefficient, and short-lived. Lithium battery is closed-source architecture. You can't swap it out when it wears out after three years. Which means anoth $100k down the drain. It can't compete yet with the productivity of an underpaid illegal immigrant.

@niamhleeson3522

Ай бұрын

Surely in a factory you would hook the robots up to mains power??

@wanderingfido

Ай бұрын

@@niamhleeson3522 no, these have to regularly return to recharging stations like Roombas. The problem is, as the battery wears down, the trips back to the station become more frequent. Like a tired grandaddy napping more often on the couch.

@mikeeanth12

Ай бұрын

humans will always be cheaper than building a lithium battery powered robot

@wanderingfido

Ай бұрын

@@niamhleeson3522 Wait, I think I understand what you meant. Those are already in play for welding and spray painting. I was thinking of Amazon and Boston dynamics. For example, pallet package bursting and induction into a warehouse and its management system (WaMaS).

@niamhleeson3522

Ай бұрын

@@wanderingfido a warehouse isn't a factory which is some of what had me confused. still it might be preferable for warehouse robots to operate based on a system of overhead wires instead of lithium batteries that have to be replaced every couple of years and require downtime to charge

the SP500 (and other indices for Western Countries) are no longer barometers of their respective economies IE check out the DAX (German index) which all-time highs while Germany is rapidly de-industrializing hint hint job losses and rising costs of energy and goods for consumers ...

True Answer: Never

I'm cook'd

What??!?!?!?!!? Robotics is having trouble? Wth with the economy? Who's going to.build all the ai stuff?

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Well, yeah, you only need a small # of robotics engineers to build them, and then it's resources & manufacturing mostly. Interesting times and all that.

This is a long video. Where is the answer to the question? Will the jobs come back?

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

Doh, it's a followup to this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/aH6Ml7yIYZzOmag.html That one is shorter, come back to this one if you still have Qs. :)

Who cares? I'm already retired. It's not my problem.

@ChangeNode

Ай бұрын

lol. FIRE or ...?

@wanderingfido

Ай бұрын

@@ChangeNode poor health. They cut our team in half and doubled our responsibilities. At first, I was only doing redhat for one acquired company, 24/7 on call. Then they added windows servers and solaris. I was catnapping in my car on lunch hours. Doc ran some blood tests and said NO MORE off hour support. I was laid off after three months of paid medical leave. I came back to try and work regular shifts in a different job. Coworkers kept asking for help from the old job. Then COVID happened. And my boss let me be laid off again because I was still too unhealthy to work a full shift. I don't miss it.

They will never come back. The golden age of software industry is over.

@ChangeNode

2 күн бұрын

Been thinking a lot about this lately. Parallels to cars, Hollywood, etc. Hmm.