Q&A #17: Bullpups, Stocked Pistols, Delayed Blowback, and More!

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0:26 - Can roller delayed blowback system be relevant in modern guns?
3:32 - Difference between gas tappet and short stroke gas piston
6:00 - Cleaning procedure, particularly for corrosive ammunition
7:32 - Brief synopsis of Yugoslavian post-WWII Mausers
10:45 - Final weight of WWSD carbine
11:44 - What hindered automatic arms development during WWI?
16:55 - Why not use MLOK/Keymod for optics?
18:05 - Forward-acting gas pistons?
19:26 - My opinion on the Remington bankruptcy
22:18 - Will 3D printing allow squeeze-bore rifles?
25:39 - What was the last US cavalry carbine?
26:20 - When the the Potato Digger leave US service?
28:11 - What was the first gun I bought specifically as a collectible?
28:55 - Is the FAMAS the best bullpup ever?
33:59 - What nation is underappreciated in small arms design history?
36:28 - Stocked pistols and modern arm brace pistols
41:04 - Do I approach museums and collectors or do they approach me?
42:46 - What is the Segway of modern guns?
44:40 - Are British DP (Drill Purpose) guns safe to shoot?
48:30 - What is the process to buy a machine gun in the US?
54:32 - Soviet TKB-59 triple barreled prototype
57:11 - Would modern high speed cameras have helped gun designers of the past?
58:48 - Why did primer-actuated systems never catch on?
1:01:44 - Progress on MAS-38 SMG and 7.65 French Long ammo
1:04:17 - What are the missing US designations, like rifles M2 through M13?
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  • @BeasBotBonanza
    @BeasBotBonanza6 жыл бұрын

    'How much of a gun guy are you?' Ian: 'Well I use boxes of cartridges as book holders for my massive library of gun books, does that answer your question?'

  • @wattasz6348

    @wattasz6348

    6 жыл бұрын

    MandaloreTheMad true!

  • @johnapple6646

    @johnapple6646

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the secret wall behind this wall which stores even more guns, can only be accessed by pulling out the right gun book

  • @jacksonjaime3525

    @jacksonjaime3525

    3 жыл бұрын

    i guess Im kinda off topic but do anybody know a good place to stream new tv shows online ?

  • @frederickdemetrius7022

    @frederickdemetrius7022

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jackson Jaime I would suggest FlixZone. You can find it on google =)

  • @lawrencejuan3106

    @lawrencejuan3106

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Frederick Demetrius Yup, I've been watching on FlixZone for months myself :D

  • @ThrowingItAway
    @ThrowingItAway6 жыл бұрын

    Shout out to all those collectors who share their guns so that they can be shown to everyone.

  • @ashtonfowler8469

    @ashtonfowler8469

    3 жыл бұрын

    ThrowingItAway not all heroes wear capes

  • @Oblithian
    @Oblithian3 жыл бұрын

    I am not even obsessed with guns like some people, I just like mechanical things. You make the content interesting Ian thank you.

  • @GunGoBang

    @GunGoBang

    Жыл бұрын

    lIkE sOmE pEoPlE.

  • @AR15andGOD

    @AR15andGOD

    Жыл бұрын

    Look at this idiot trying to distance himself from gun fans because he views them as lesser for having a hobby that is currently culturally negative to be interested in. I see this exact sentiment in hundreds of gun related youtube video comments every single day, as if being a firearm mega fan is somehow bad.

  • @GunGoBang

    @GunGoBang

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AR15andGOD he pees sitting down.

  • @GunGoBang

    @GunGoBang

    Жыл бұрын

    @@edm192 another deleted comment? Yet, im the dumb one?

  • @anadu13

    @anadu13

    Жыл бұрын

    My wife has no interests in guns and watches some of these with me. My kids love Ian's videos

  • @eyeamstrongest
    @eyeamstrongest6 жыл бұрын

    the french, finns, italians, and japanese are all definitely underappreciated in the world of firearms design

  • @frufru0071

    @frufru0071

    4 жыл бұрын

    Astute observation, friend...(although Beretta owns a lot more than I’d have guessed). How about the Swiss? Have they already appreciated? My K-31 is much more accurate than me, (& many of the others who have tried it). It makes me feel like a much better marksman than I am, similar to the feeling my Tikka .223 gives me. A Finnish rifle owned by Beretta.

  • @Antigonus.
    @Antigonus.6 жыл бұрын

    'What Would Saint-Étienne Do?' FAMAS series confirmed for 2019?

  • @Alexplainow

    @Alexplainow

    6 жыл бұрын

    An AUG, probably, F90 specificity

  • @RonJeremy514

    @RonJeremy514

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Saint-Étienne manufacture doesn't exist anymore. In France, the government killed the light armament industry. Instead, we bought the HK 416 from the germans which is sad imo. The HK 416 might be a good weapon, but it's just an piston AR-15 and doesn't have a full size barrel and overall compact size unlike the FAMAS thanks to it's bullpup design. The main problem with the FAMAS was the cost of the internal parts. The only thing it needed was a simpler internal design like the croatian VHS 2, even if we had to copy the internal of an AK rifle + the same adjustable stock from the VHS, get rid of the useless bipod, and an AR style ambidextrous safety selector.

  • @louisbeerreviews8964

    @louisbeerreviews8964

    6 жыл бұрын

    Stoner 63 that company form france doesn’t exist anymore

  • @Antigonus.

    @Antigonus.

    6 жыл бұрын

    Er... that's the point? Eugene Stoner isn't alive anymore, hence "What would Stoner do [if he was still alive and working on the AR15]?" Saint-Étienne does not exist anymore, hence "What would Saint-Étienne do [if they were still around and working on the FAMAS]?"

  • @KurwaRomek

    @KurwaRomek

    6 жыл бұрын

    Stoner 63 a WWMASD project would be really neat. The other day I walked past a bunch of soldiers on patrol (yeah we got our military patrolling the streets, don't ask), most of them had EOTechs reflex sights fitted on their rifles, I would have liked to ask those soldiers about their prefered attachments but I didn't want to look weird...

  • @JohnLeePedimore
    @JohnLeePedimore6 жыл бұрын

    Full Smoking Jacket.

  • @dgreening8084

    @dgreening8084

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lmao!

  • @Kenobi_Cowboy

    @Kenobi_Cowboy

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was my first question. Where do we get that jacket Ian!?

  • @XBullitt16X

    @XBullitt16X

    4 жыл бұрын

    perfect for a cigar

  • @rockhardin4829

    @rockhardin4829

    3 жыл бұрын

    This comment is golden. Ian has the best fanbase

  • @tulipalll

    @tulipalll

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love that smoking jacket so much

  • @nerdlydood
    @nerdlydood6 жыл бұрын

    Love the ammo box book ends

  • @timwilliamanderson

    @timwilliamanderson

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ryan Wagner right!!!!

  • @shotgunrain1994

    @shotgunrain1994

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was hoping I wasn’t the only one to notice

  • @tsufordman

    @tsufordman

    6 жыл бұрын

    What are the pros and cons of using ammo boxes for book ends?

  • @51WCDodge

    @51WCDodge

    6 жыл бұрын

    I worked at a place where we used inert landminnes as door stops. Reason: To hiss off Political vistors.

  • @SuperSecretSquirell

    @SuperSecretSquirell

    6 жыл бұрын

    And a random pistol (Luger?) as well lol.

  • @connclark2154
    @connclark21546 жыл бұрын

    There is something to add on buying a machine gun. Some states don't allow possession of machine guns. So the the first step would be to move to a state that allows it or change the state law.

  • @AR15andGOD

    @AR15andGOD

    Жыл бұрын

    or just don't follow illegal laws like a fascist collaborationist.

  • @happyhaunter_5546
    @happyhaunter_55466 жыл бұрын

    "Everything in firearms design is a compromise" Oof I'm telling Hk on you

  • @roflchopter11

    @roflchopter11

    4 жыл бұрын

    HK compromises on cost.

  • @teaser6089

    @teaser6089

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@roflchopter11 ?

  • @Tunkkis

    @Tunkkis

    Жыл бұрын

    @@teaser6089 HK can make good gun, but can not have good (=low) price tag.

  • @HolyNorthAmericanEmpire

    @HolyNorthAmericanEmpire

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tunkkis You pay for the quality you get

  • @ristoalanko9281
    @ristoalanko92816 жыл бұрын

    The best gun cleaning "solution" is hot water. I do a lot of black powder shooting and could'nt live without it. When I was doing my 11 months in national service in Finnish Army, I once cleaned my heavily fouled RK62 (lots of blank ammo!) in hot shower. It was the cleanest gun I have ever seen, and our armory sergeant said: " Yes, clean, but the next time gets you 10 days in the cage!". Oil and lots of scrubbing only after that...

  • @luzianwasescha6056

    @luzianwasescha6056

    6 жыл бұрын

    Risto Alanko cool story. I am from Switzerland and if my Stgw90 got really dirty, i used Running Water too. Now im finished with my service, i have my select fire rifle at home, waiting to be castrated when i am about 30 years old, when i take it in to private posession.

  • @denewood3763

    @denewood3763

    4 жыл бұрын

    In an emergency with a black powder weapon.... pee down the barrel..... cleans it out quick time so you can fire again... lol 🤪🤣😂

  • @denewood3763

    @denewood3763

    4 жыл бұрын

    FlamingTP if it’s the emergency pee or death as the choices I know which one I am picking... lol 😂

  • @AR15andGOD

    @AR15andGOD

    Жыл бұрын

    @@luzianwasescha6056 is that a joke or are you really getting castrated

  • @luzianwasescha6056

    @luzianwasescha6056

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AR15andGOD nope, just the rifle to semi auto only😅

  • @jamesjross
    @jamesjross6 жыл бұрын

    The Pipe! You're just spreading it on thick at this point.

  • @Rhynome

    @Rhynome

    6 жыл бұрын

    He needs a fez or other night cap now.

  • @twirlipofthemists3201

    @twirlipofthemists3201

    6 жыл бұрын

    OMG yes. Fez, please.

  • @danthefrst

    @danthefrst

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well, it made me go instaclick that thumbs up within half a second of playtime!

  • @Kargush

    @Kargush

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or a smoking cap matching his jacket

  • @cogburnarsenal9284

    @cogburnarsenal9284

    6 жыл бұрын

    Scotch isn't thick, obscure, or French enough for Ian. Maybe Armagnac?

  • @cogburnarsenal9284
    @cogburnarsenal92846 жыл бұрын

    Using ammunition as book ends is an idea I should have had by now...

  • @DStecks
    @DStecks Жыл бұрын

    Something that becomes very apparent when you look into the history of technology, just in general, the answer to the question "why not earlier?" is almost always metallurgy. More generally you could say it's "materials science" but in practice, before the 20th century, that means metallurgy. EDIT: the history of metallurgy is also the single biggest refutation of the idea that technology was stagnant in the middle ages: the invention of the blast furnace meant that medieval steel was to Roman iron what an AK-47 is to a musket.

  • @asadunbar999
    @asadunbar9996 жыл бұрын

    one day Ian is going to be that 100yr old dood that knows EVERYTHING about guns, machining processes, history etc. he's well on his way. Excellent class, bud, the robe has got me cracking up (sips a tea mug). love your show, keep up the good work.

  • @rollover4894
    @rollover48946 жыл бұрын

    i found a mauser in my grandpas house with 1899 and serbian coat of arms on the reciver

  • @jackwarman4108

    @jackwarman4108

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow what a coincidence I found my grandpas .762 NATO mag that was issued with his M14 in Vietnam ... still in charger too

  • @Camocheese
    @Camocheese6 жыл бұрын

    I had always wondered about those "missing" weapon designations. Today I learned something new. Nice.

  • @CaptainFalcon92
    @CaptainFalcon926 жыл бұрын

    30:00 IMO The best bullpup within its own cateory is the P90. Simply a perfect design for a multitude of reasons i would be happy to argue ^^. One may also talk about equaly the RFB for .308 or the new MDR for 5.56.

  • @oso1165

    @oso1165

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@brianmead7556 pistol calibers are pistol calibers. they dont matter that much.

  • @a22024

    @a22024

    3 жыл бұрын

    The little-known K&M M17s beats the RDB, RFB, & MDR. Best trigger, accuracy, & reliability (once the gas is dialed in!) RDB certainly is close as it is cheaper and ambidextrous.

  • @oc-j6039
    @oc-j60396 жыл бұрын

    With what you said about the L85 being too heavy, don’t worry the MoD listened and the new A3 is a whole 100 grams lighter!!!!

  • @commando552

    @commando552

    6 жыл бұрын

    I believe it is 100 grams lighter than the standard model with the plastic handguard, it is a lot lighter than the guns with the DD railed handguard.

  • @cryo2156

    @cryo2156

    6 жыл бұрын

    The L85 is a terrible weapon. I'd rather carry a stick into battle.

  • @FloozyMcDoozy694

    @FloozyMcDoozy694

    6 жыл бұрын

    gabriel bielawski no you wouldn't.

  • @FloozyMcDoozy694

    @FloozyMcDoozy694

    6 жыл бұрын

    JammingWithAkira The British army should adopt the c8/c7

  • @FloozyMcDoozy694

    @FloozyMcDoozy694

    6 жыл бұрын

    JammingWithAkira I think it was a money saving scheme I read some where that the l85 was only supposed to last until 2012 or something but MoD found it cheaper just to upgrade the weapon and prolong it's service life a little longer. Although a friend of mine in the army said their gonna replace it in 2025

  • @Locutus494
    @Locutus4946 жыл бұрын

    32:10 The Desert Tech MDR should definitely be mentioned here! I realize it's new and no one has a lot of experience with it, and it's also not a military gun, but it should definitely be a contender! If it can bring Karl around regarding bullpups, it must be good! ;)

  • @1337penguinman
    @1337penguinman6 жыл бұрын

    Would be interesting to see some sort of tunable blowback system. Maybe as simple as a changeable weight on the bolt.

  • @larryjohnson150
    @larryjohnson1506 жыл бұрын

    The biggest thing I’d say for Remington is just pushing quality control as low as possible so the higher ups can make as much money as possible, at least that’s what I experienced at Ruger so I am kind of comparing the two.

  • @MatterMadeMoot
    @MatterMadeMoot Жыл бұрын

    9 Hole's video on the Vector is really interesting, he makes the case that Kriss poorly marketed it as a military SMG when it's real use case, especially in semi is as a vehicle-bourne PDW. No snag points, high capacity, compact, etc. Maybe not the most realistic use case for most people but I think it makes a lot more sense that way.

  • @IanDinBC
    @IanDinBC Жыл бұрын

    Re: Squeeze or taper bores, the Colt Canada cold hammer forged barrels used in the C7 and C8 series of rifles have a very slight taper to the bore, as well as an in-line forging of the chamber. It doesn't require 3D printing, just a carefully hammer forged barrel around a mandrel with a taper machined into it.

  • @BlackhartFilms
    @BlackhartFilms6 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to add on the point of 3D printing that additive manufacturing is inherently weaker in design than most other methods. In plastic, for example, an injection moulded part can be very very strong because the liquid polymer can cool into a single monolithic piece. In additive manufacturing you have each layer cool individually one on another, which creates a kind of "wood grain" to the final product. The danger of delamination means that extra care has to be put into planning layer directions in stress bearing parts. In that case, something like a single weld makes more sense- like your WWSD lowers. The honeycomb internal is made possible by casting the parts in two halves then welding them. Yes that makes the seam a weak point, but that's better than hundreds or thousands of them in a print.

  • @bilibiliism

    @bilibiliism

    6 жыл бұрын

    It depends. the socalled “3d printing” is a class of many different technologies. Few of them are very strong.

  • @scottroberts3158

    @scottroberts3158

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tell that to space X with they're 3D printed super draco engines.

  • @PaulNorman

    @PaulNorman

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's really only with the plastic methods. Metal-based 3d printing tends to not be built up in the same ways, and some methods are a good percentage of the strength of conventional machining parts. Heat treating is likely to be superior with solid parts. For 3d printing to be useful for metal or plastic, you want a part that's either a low production volume, or too complex to economically machine. A barrel is not likely to be one of those, being built around a cylinder. I would think that all the other parts with various machined surfaces that mate which each other would be more likely to move to 3d printing first.

  • @skyhop
    @skyhop6 жыл бұрын

    Please do a video on the SMAW spotting rifle if you ever get the chance. A roller delayed primer actuated action, completely insane little gun.

  • @perochialjoe
    @perochialjoe5 жыл бұрын

    Now I'm really curious about the M60 and the M249 designations.

  • @operator1192
    @operator11926 жыл бұрын

    Ian, great detailed explanations on all of these questions. The entire video was very interesting. Keep up the excellent work!

  • @candidmoe8741
    @candidmoe87416 жыл бұрын

    Dear Gun Jesus: You have to write a book about mechanics aspects of gun, the how and why of different actions (blockback, gas, ...). With illustrations and diagrams. It looks like nobody written one before, and even Internet is severely lacking in that regard; your videos being the most extensive coverage of the matter I ever found.

  • @dtyle1890

    @dtyle1890

    6 жыл бұрын

    candid moe what do you mean by this "firearm mechanics" could cover so many different topics

  • @ostiariusalpha

    @ostiariusalpha

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nathaniel Fitch of The Firearm Blog had started a series of articles on all the types of operating mechanisms, but he never finished it; and now he has moved on to work at the Institute of Military Technology, so we'll never see it completed. Here are some of what he did cover: www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/06/13/operating-systems-101-blowback/ www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/06/13/operating-systems-101-short-recoil/ www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/06/17/operating-mechanisms-201-rotary-locking/ www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/06/17/operating-mechanisms-201-tilting-barrel-locking/ www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/06/20/operating-mechanisms-201-ljungmann-vs-stoner-direct-impingement/

  • @nurglepembrush384

    @nurglepembrush384

    6 жыл бұрын

    As noted by others there are a lot of topics to cover and it really depends on how details you want to get. The more detailed you get you end up creating topic specific subjects which are short run, small production engineering books. You tend to not find them easily because maybe it only sold ten books and or locked away in a technical school in one language printing. On the other spectrum you'll find tons of coffee table books which aren't that great but cover the basics, I was looking at one the other day at a bookstore (omg, I was shocked they still exist!--a bookstore not the book).

  • @candidmoe8741

    @candidmoe8741

    6 жыл бұрын

    D Tyle. By "mechanics" I mean mostly actions, but also triggers/receivers mechanisms, magazines (single/double stack, single/double feed), belts, attachment systems for sights, etc. I want to know how they work and how to compare one approach to another.

  • @CzornyLisek

    @CzornyLisek

    6 жыл бұрын

    1.) There is so many ways to make gun work. That making book about most guns "in detail" is next to impossible. About common guns and common knowledge everything is already on internet. Just search for it. 2.) If something is rather modern(meaning after WWI) it will be covered most probably by patents unless it was created during war but at the same time things created during war have "special treatment" and usually there is shit ton of information about them. There must by technical drawings and explanations in them. Also because it's patented it can not be in books. 3.) Problems about how something work ect. Rly problems are almost only with prototype guns(quite often lack of pictures and patents), very old ones(just nobody bothered with pictures and finding patents can be pain in ass) and brand new ones when ordered by government(no patents)

  • @alflurin
    @alflurin6 жыл бұрын

    The closest process to 3D printing in those terms, is the lost wax process. My father used to work in that field and it was widely used in the Swiss arms manufacture to get the precision of milling with the capabilities of casting.

  • @jeroendesterke9739
    @jeroendesterke97395 жыл бұрын

    Not to forget to mention that "DP" guns are additionally rendered totally inoperable. Their bolt faces are milled away, the barrel slotted at the breach and further down the barrel, rod inserted and welded solid.

  • @5chr4pn3ll
    @5chr4pn3ll6 жыл бұрын

    I would love a video on different strange types of ammo. Like caseless rounds and telescoping ammo for example.

  • @fmbfla
    @fmbfla6 жыл бұрын

    Watched it from Start to End. Another Hour well spent on enlightenment. Thank you!

  • @zakleclaire1858
    @zakleclaire18586 жыл бұрын

    "Yeah long story short Remington aint what it used to be" *sips tea*

  • @kyle18934

    @kyle18934

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know this is an old comment It's really kind of sad. I have a few old remington shotguns from my grandpa. They are very nice and good quality, with engravings. I don't think I would buy a new remington, but the old ones are very nice. Old being 30-60 ish years old so some are old (late 1950s)

  • @zakleclaire1858

    @zakleclaire1858

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kyle18934 there has a been a major shift since about the 80s and really kicking off into the 90s where "long life" products began to have shorter and shorter lives. It's a mixture of it being more economical to produce things of lesser quality *and* people needing to re-buy things more often leads to more sales for businesses.

  • @kyle18934

    @kyle18934

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zakleclaire1858 it's like how laptops last for 3-5 years when they lasted for 10 years before.

  • @jayque300
    @jayque3006 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the lesson Ian! I always get excited when I see the Q&A notifications!

  • @SNOUPS4
    @SNOUPS46 жыл бұрын

    I hope all missing M designations will eventually get a ForgottenWeapons video! :D

  • @smHttr

    @smHttr

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've been trying to find the M1 machine gun preceding the Browning M2. All I get is "did you mean the M1 Thompson?"

  • @Clowndoe

    @Clowndoe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Is that possibly the answer? As it happens I was looking for an M2 Submachine gun. Could SMGs and MGs be rolled into one, with the M3 being the Grease Gun?

  • @smHttr

    @smHttr

    6 жыл бұрын

    HoNose Muppet no, the M2 smg was briefly in service but was cancelled and replaced by the M3 after a small number of guns were built in '43. kzread.info/dash/bejne/paNotLyFpKnJisY.html is on the predecessor to the Hyde-Inland M2, the Hyde Model 33

  • @mexanik9
    @mexanik96 жыл бұрын

    this is the only channel where i am happy to watch 1hour long qa video

  • @Abgilosby
    @Abgilosby6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Patreons for your amazing questions and thank you Forgotten Weapons for your amazing content.

  • @Rralover
    @Rralover6 жыл бұрын

    Well done sir you are a scholar and a gentleman!

  • @ryridesmotox
    @ryridesmotox6 жыл бұрын

    CLASSY AF... I thoroughly enjoy the theatrics. Keep it going. Love the channel

  • @gavinburrell7559
    @gavinburrell75596 жыл бұрын

    Hey I wanted to say this channel is amazing and inspiring because I learn something new from fire arms the history of how they process to the modern age rifles keep up the great work!

  • @noname2-190
    @noname2-190 Жыл бұрын

    Never get tired of these videos

  • @rvanhees89
    @rvanhees896 жыл бұрын

    Love the outfit! The only thing missing is a Fez. Iirc that is a official part of the smoking attire.

  • @manatoa1

    @manatoa1

    6 жыл бұрын

    My understanding of the smoking cap or fez, is that it keeps the smell of smoke out of your hair, much as the smoking jacket keeps it off your clothes. Ian would need a smoking turban.

  • @aries_9130
    @aries_91306 жыл бұрын

    Great questions, great answers. Thank you very much!

  • @markyoung2981
    @markyoung2981 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation thank you for your time posting this information.

  • @atomicbong7597
    @atomicbong75976 жыл бұрын

    Dim lighting in background, candles or warm light....to me this is bedtime stories with Ian :)

  • @ostiariusalpha
    @ostiariusalpha6 жыл бұрын

    The difference between short-stroke piston and tappet systems basically comes down to where the operating rod is attached: on short-stroke, the op rod is attached to the piston, and on a tappet, the op rod is attached to the bolt carrier. It's that simple. FN's SCAR and F2000 rifles are both tappet systems, and they are easily disassembled in the field for maintenance.

  • @littlegrabbiZZ9PZA

    @littlegrabbiZZ9PZA

    6 жыл бұрын

    ostiariusalpha Just to be a pedant: What would the G36 family of guns be? There's a connecting rod between the gas piston and bolt, and that rod isn't attached to any of them, it sits in a channel in the receiver.

  • @ostiariusalpha

    @ostiariusalpha

    6 жыл бұрын

    +That_German_Guy I would still call the G36/SL8 a short-stroke system, since the operating rod is slaved to the piston, even if it isn't mechanically fastened to it.

  • @user-vy6yg7xt9e
    @user-vy6yg7xt9e4 ай бұрын

    When I lived in upstate New York I was only about 30 minutes away from the Remington plant in illion. They were producing AR-15s in that factory it was their original building from the 1800s. When assault weapon ban went into effect in the 90s they laid everyone off in the whole factory went to shit. All the good employees left got laid off or got fired and they never seem to recoup after that. That being said everything else that Ian listed definitely is a main contributor as well

  • @MarinkoKobas
    @MarinkoKobas6 жыл бұрын

    Ballistol is just a great product. I use it all around the house. A non toxic wd40 so to speak.

  • @bertbccfu9564

    @bertbccfu9564

    Жыл бұрын

    That's all I use on my PCP air rifles

  • @subduedreader5627
    @subduedreader56276 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for answering the question about missing US firearm designations, it was something I had been looking for every so often and not getting anywhere. I had seen the the videos on the m15 and m6 though I just wasn't connecting the m6 to the rifle designations.

  • @vaclav_fejt

    @vaclav_fejt

    6 жыл бұрын

    My brother asked me the same thing, with tanks added into the mix - "How did they go from the M4 to the M60 and then to M1?"

  • @horstboellinger6880
    @horstboellinger68806 жыл бұрын

    The Pipe, The setting. HE is gun JESUS!!!

  • @maskedhobo
    @maskedhobo6 жыл бұрын

    Gun Jesus is looking dapper. Thanks for all you guys at Forgotten Weapons and InRange.

  • @freedomfirst5420
    @freedomfirst54206 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate all of your information, very informative, thank you!

  • @Ihasanart
    @Ihasanart6 жыл бұрын

    Biggest use of squeeze bores I'm aware of were the Little John adaptors for British 2pdr tank and anti-tank guns, used on Tetrarch tanks and similar.

  • @myparceltape1169

    @myparceltape1169

    Жыл бұрын

    The only example I have seen was in N. Africa, an old German anti-tank gun said to squeeze 40mm down to 37mm. I don't know how it got rusty in the desert.

  • @Jinjajamie
    @Jinjajamie6 жыл бұрын

    First time I've ever disagreed with you Ian...the AUG series is undoubtedly a better rifle than a famas. More reliable, higher capacity, longer barrel/range. Also the AUG platform is in continued use to this day in various guides, whereas the FAMAS is not used by any large military at this point.

  • @yangcheng-jyun8542

    @yangcheng-jyun8542

    6 жыл бұрын

    FAMAS will not be used anymore not because the gun is bad,but simply because there's no armory that manufacturing them....

  • @Zorglub1966

    @Zorglub1966

    6 жыл бұрын

    No french military firearm produced in state arsenals has never been a commercial success, it was not the purpose, and there were never real export policy

  • @chaswalker2038
    @chaswalker20386 жыл бұрын

    Ian has again expanded my knowledge when I thought I was fully up to speed n a subject.

  • @spankysbasement
    @spankysbasement6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ian! Hype for first question!

  • @RiccardoCagnasso
    @RiccardoCagnasso4 жыл бұрын

    I can see an application for squeeze bore in very long range, medium payload, high precision artillery. You kinda need to have a crazy swappable artillery barrel gun, but it still beats a missile in cost. I'M NOT CRAZY

  • @ditzylemmon5094
    @ditzylemmon50946 жыл бұрын

    So happy when I see these!!

  • @RobsRacingMotoVLOG
    @RobsRacingMotoVLOG6 жыл бұрын

    I love that you use ammo as bookends. Never noticed that before.

  • @dizdizzy8937
    @dizdizzy8937 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff! Thank you for sharing

  • @lewisleonard7200
    @lewisleonard7200 Жыл бұрын

    The hk sl7 is a roller delayed blowback in .308. The chamber is fluted to facilitate extraction. I noticed carbon build-up around the chamber. You need to clean it. Awesome rifle, reliable and accurate.

  • @shayne7300
    @shayne73006 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ian, Steyr AUG runs the Gas Tappet system, and having used the Austeyr F88 when I was younger, I found it easy to remove, clean and adjust, M1 Carbines from memory have a Gas Tappet rather than a short stroke Piston too, but it's been a long time since our country let us have them in Civilian hands..

  • @Verdha603
    @Verdha6036 жыл бұрын

    Great Q&A. Actually kinda interested to see if he could do a video on Yugo Mausers in the future.

  • @karigreyd2808
    @karigreyd28086 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, love your Q&As

  • @timknapper6990
    @timknapper69906 жыл бұрын

    I love that your using boxes of ammo as book stops.

  • @Toolness1
    @Toolness1 Жыл бұрын

    For Milsurps in a humid area I have had excellent luck with a 1 to 10 mix of ballistol/water for the bore after corrosive ammo, just soak the bore really well and use a regular bore brush. Then wipe all the metal with a generous coat of plain ballistol, then store in silicone gun sock. Cut them in sections for pistols. I had a couple guns rust using other protectants such as CLP and regular gun oils, REM Oil sucks for long term protection IMO, but since I switched to Ballistol I haven't had an issue. I just soak a rag with it and after every range session the whole gun gets wiped with it inside and out. For stuff I don't shoot I take them out once a year at least and re-apply the Ballistol. For really expensive stuff I use RIG grease and coat everything in that using one of their RIG Rags or a natural hair paintbrush

  • @rockhardin4829
    @rockhardin48293 жыл бұрын

    Dear Ian you rock! Keep up the good job

  • @Bananeisafree
    @Bananeisafree5 жыл бұрын

    Always enjoyable to watch your videos.

  • @Locutus494
    @Locutus4946 жыл бұрын

    Loving the ammo boxes as bookends! LOL

  • @Rusty_Shackleford1
    @Rusty_Shackleford16 жыл бұрын

    I love how you use boxes of ammunition as book stops!

  • @InnocentExile182
    @InnocentExile1826 жыл бұрын

    i was really expecting him to say "oh hi, i didnt see you there"

  • @dandel351
    @dandel3516 жыл бұрын

    The start of the video is priceless!!

  • @ericlondon5731
    @ericlondon5731 Жыл бұрын

    Here in s.e. Georgia, it seems to never be dry. One guy showed me his very expensive over and under shotgun. Beautiful, rich blue, engraving with gold inlay. He flips it over, deep rust all the way down, action 'rust welded' and white bleached out wood. He says, "I left it on my truck's carpet. ......Can you 'clean this up ?" ..........I teared up, and it was not even my gun.

  • @workingguy6666
    @workingguy66666 жыл бұрын

    This was a great episode!

  • @hangarrat101
    @hangarrat1016 жыл бұрын

    Re forwards acting gas pistons, also that toggle-locked Japanese self-loader you did a video on.

  • @stevenschumacher5566
    @stevenschumacher55666 жыл бұрын

    In reference to the last question, I do have an M-8 case. It is indeed shorter than the standard .50 BMG, it also has a primer that extends significantly into the case.

  • @paulstan9828
    @paulstan98286 жыл бұрын

    Hey nice smoking jacket. Like your ammunition book stops too! Ha!! Nice touch. Enjoy your channel I always learn something. It shows you put in a lot of time and research. Thanks!

  • @michaelfodor6280
    @michaelfodor62806 жыл бұрын

    Now Ian needs to adopt a thick English accent (think David Attenborough...nay Jeremy Clarkson), "Today on Blasterpiece Theatre..." :D (Edited, Hope GunFun approves...)

  • @GunFunZS

    @GunFunZS

    6 жыл бұрын

    Michael Smith I'm against this for one thing David Attenborough has a standard rule that he can only pronounce seven words out of 10 correctly . I think that he must've had some kind of bet. let's see if I can get away with pronouncing something standard and common like algae or bacteria wrong and make them think I'm right just because I'm British. then I'll say some of the most evil crap ever like you know it be better for the environment of people in Third World countries died . Which of course he has made statements along that nature several different times . He has made some good documentaries but he is pretentious and is evil.

  • @michaelfodor6280

    @michaelfodor6280

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well that's a eye opener GunFun. I'll admit I haven't seen a recent Attenborough documentary. I'll try to find a different Englishman.

  • @bhoward9378

    @bhoward9378

    6 жыл бұрын

    Blasterpiece Theatre. Start it. I double dare you.

  • @philllax1719

    @philllax1719

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GunFunZS words pronounced different from how you pronounce them aren't pronounced wrong. Hes speaking an entirely different dialect. He also thinks all humans are bad for the environment, and hes not wrong

  • @GunFunZS

    @GunFunZS

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@philllax1719 I'm not talking about dialects He does pronounce a lot of words completely wrong for any dialect. I think he does it on purpose as a trademark actually.

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 Жыл бұрын

    3d printing has been used in a hypersonic engine casing to make cooling passages, but I suspect it isn't particularly pressure resistant. A squeeze bore gun would have to be made out of some new super alloy and require special ammo.

  • @captainswoop8722
    @captainswoop87224 жыл бұрын

    When I was a Cadet in the 70s we had DP Mk 4s. They had slots cut in the barrel and the stock cut away at the same location to show this had been done.

  • @RichardGoth
    @RichardGoth6 жыл бұрын

    44:43 My DP Mark III* (1917) had a sawcut through the barrel, a 1/4 hole drilled in the chamber, and the breech rivetted shut just to prevent accidental re-use. It had also been thrown into a chrome plating bath fully assembled before being restocked in 4 different types of wood :-)

  • @ringowunderlich2241
    @ringowunderlich22416 жыл бұрын

    The german 2.8 cm sPzB (schwere Panzerbüchse) 41 squeeze bore started with 28 mm and tapered down to 20 mm. The barrel had a tungsten coating inside to enlengthen the lifespan of the barrel, but german arms industry was alway short on tungsten back then. Muzzle velocity was 4500 feet per second.

  • @mikepeterson9733
    @mikepeterson97336 жыл бұрын

    I love your bookends, Ian!

  • @CLDSTL871
    @CLDSTL8716 жыл бұрын

    Great job on the Vice video Ian!

  • @AdrenalineJunkieXL
    @AdrenalineJunkieXL6 жыл бұрын

    Also I'd be totally down to see videos on the adapters you were talking about for the last question. They sound extremely interesting.

  • @chronosthevnwierdo6461
    @chronosthevnwierdo64616 жыл бұрын

    19:44 Can confirm, bought an 870 a few years back. I've literally only ever fired the thing once - and when I say that, I mean *ONE SHELL* - because they couldn't even get their own chamber dimensions right; attempting to fire a shell with brass that was too short would completely lock the gun closed so badly I had to take it to a gunsmith to disassemble the damn thing for me. Finally sold that thing for a pretty good loss recently, not making that mistake again.

  • @bennythargrave
    @bennythargrave6 жыл бұрын

    awesome interview on Vice btw!

  • @FerrariTeddy
    @FerrariTeddy4 жыл бұрын

    Ballistol. Fuckin ballistol on EVERYTHING. I use it on my machineguns, my historical guns, and my wife! It's goot at cleaning, preserving, and lubricating.

  • @allenshepard7992
    @allenshepard79926 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for all the answers - learning so much in such a short span of time. I disagree on the FAMAs as the P90 seems better. Not as much damage, less recoil. (student now sits down to be educated)

  • @TheSuburban15
    @TheSuburban156 жыл бұрын

    +1 for Balistol and water to clean out corrosive salts. I have a large stock of surplus 5.45mm and it seems to work

  • @darthhodges
    @darthhodges3 жыл бұрын

    Regarding short piston vs. gas tap it ease of maintenance explains design decisions in many fields. Large vehicles like buses and trucks use air brakes while most other vehicles use hydraulic. Hydraulic brakes would be better for stopping a big vehicle but you often have to drain the fluid to fix it depending on what breaks. On large vehicles that much fluid would take hours to drain and hours again to fill, bleed, and top off once it's fixed. Air brakes take seconds to "drain", are dramatically less messy to work on, and about a minute to refill. On high weight vehicles the brakes are going to wear out more quickly anyway so you might as well make maintenance easier.

  • @ThePageofCups
    @ThePageofCups6 жыл бұрын

    If there was any further proof needed that Ian reads the comments...

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers26036 жыл бұрын

    Great info - thanks Ian :)

  • @PaulNorman
    @PaulNorman6 жыл бұрын

    High speed cameras have been around for over 100 years, and the first ballistics high speed camera photography was in 1886, and have been used in weapons development since WWI era. The problem is pre-digital high speed cameras were big, bulky, difficult to use, and could only capture short durations. For repetitive processes, stroboscope freezing of fast motion was a better technique a lot of the time, and still can be useful, even with cheap high speed cameras.

  • @lazorboy96
    @lazorboy966 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure Lee Emerson had a section about rifles M2-M13 in his M14 RHAD book. "Intervening Rifle Models: M2 through M13 M2: The M2 was a Springfield Armory .22LR caliber magazine fed bolt action rifle. It was 43.66 " long and weighed 8.87 pounds. M4: The M4 (T38) was a magazine fed .22 Hornet caliber bolt action survival rifle. Harrington & Richardson made 29,344 M4 rifles in 1949. The M4 weighed 4 pounds and was 32 ½ " long with the telescoping wire stock extended. The M4 had a 14 " barrel and a magazine capacity of five rounds. Earlier models had a leaf rear sight but later models were fitted with an adjustable rear peep sight. M5: The M5 was a combination .22 Hornet caliber rifle and .410 gauge shotgun. Harrington & Richardson produced fifty M5 rifles in 1950. M6: The M6 was similar to the M5. It too was a combination .22 Hornet caliber rifle and .410 gauge shotgun. The M6 was developed by the U. S. Army Ordnance Command and produced by Ithaca around 1951. The M6 weighed 3 pounds 12 ounces. It had an overall length of 28 ¼ " and a folded length of 15 ". This model was reproduced by Springfield Armory, Inc. for a time. M8 and M8C: These were spotting rifles for the 105 mm and 106 mm recoilless rifles, respectively. M9: This may be a sub caliber device for the 106 mm recoilless rifle but this has not been confirmed. M10: This model number was not used by the U. S. Army. M11: This model number was not used by the U. S. Army. M12: This model designation was assigned to three .22LR caliber bolt action training rifles: 1) Winchester Model 52 Heavy Barrel 2) Remington Model 40X-S1 3) Harrington & Richardson M12. Remington Model 40X-S1 M12 rifles were in the inventory of Marine Corps Junior ROTC units in the 1970s for smallbore rifle marksmanship training and competition. The Harrington & Richardson M12 was a single shot heavy barrel heavy wood stock rifle fitted with Redfield globe front sight and Palma rear sight. It weighed about 13 pounds. The Civilian Marksmanship Program sold this rifle to civilians as late as March 2005. M13: Likewise, this model number was given to two .22LR caliber training rifles, the Remington Model 513T Targetmaster and the Winchester Model 75 Target. Remington Model 513T Targetmaster M13 rifles were also in the inventory of Marine Corps Junior ROTC units in the 1970s." -M14 Rifle, History, and Development, Pg. 48-49, Lee Emerson.

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox136 жыл бұрын

    A skirted round (of lead or soft alloy) was used in Gerlich's "Cone Bore" guns. Most significant of these was the sPzB 41 "28/20", significant in the sense that all of them were issued and oft used (until the ammo ran dry). This gun was intended for the Falschirmjaeger, but Google "SPW250/10" or "SPW251/10" and about half the pics will show the platoon commander's halftrack armed with the sPzB 41. My favorite cone bore gun is the 7.5cm PaK 41, which squeezed the 75mm apparent diameter of the shot to an emergent 55mm (It was also called the "75/55"). These were used, too, but the penetrators inside the soft metal jackets or skirts were made of tungsten carbide and that's the old story about strategically critical materials-not to mention that excessive barrel wear was problematic.

  • @WildBillCox13

    @WildBillCox13

    6 жыл бұрын

    *Or so I think. I didn't crack a book for this one.

  • @chanoom
    @chanoom Жыл бұрын

    A brief yet deep moment of reflection @ 28:52

  • @edm240b9
    @edm240b96 жыл бұрын

    Regarding US multibarreled rifles, one of these was the Project Salvo double rifle. The best way I can describe is just tape to inch pattern FALs together and you have the rifle. There were several reasons for this, and Ian mentioned all but one: the War Department realized soldiers didn’t really die a whole lot from bullets, it was mostly shrapnel, explosives, etc. So it was basically an attempt to make rifles more effective.

  • @MatoVuc
    @MatoVuc6 жыл бұрын

    Given your appreciation of the Famas, i really wonder what you would think of the Croatian VHS-1 and VHS-2 rifles. Having been issued both, I can say that they are a better than I thought they would be, but not amazing. They are an interesting combination of design "inspirations". Heavy as sin, though, and I'm glad I don't have to lug them around anymore.

  • @alexv6324

    @alexv6324

    6 жыл бұрын

    MatoVuc Better than Beta!

  • @thegael1996

    @thegael1996

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Croatians must have really liked the Famas sights when they were designed the VHS. Infact a lot of external elements of the VHS seen to have been inspired by the FAMAS and G36.

  • @MatoVuc

    @MatoVuc

    6 жыл бұрын

    The original VHS-1 had Famas like iron sights, though that was not long after replaced with HK style iron sights a la G-36C and G-3.

  • @thegael1996

    @thegael1996

    6 жыл бұрын

    The VHS-1 also had the FAMAS style safety/selector switch and Grenade sights. Also noticed that the VHS's use G36 style charging handle, G36 style Magazines and even G36 optics.

  • @MatoVuc

    @MatoVuc

    6 жыл бұрын

    the G-36 optics are genuine g-36 optic, that were either removed from G-36 rifles in stock or purchased exclusively and then attached to the pic rail on the VHS-1D1 rifles. I am not aware of how fond people were of this solution. The G-36 dual optic is generally very positively considered in the Croatian Armed Forces, but the VHS-1 had a very high bore offset iron sights and the G-36 optic is quite tall on it's own.

  • @stiltskino4009
    @stiltskino40096 жыл бұрын

    Ian you are the greatest Sir!!!!!