it’s been so long that patrick marleau, NHL history’s most games played guy, played an entire career from draft to retirement (with wiggle room on both sides!) without seeing a canadian cup champ

@nickholmes5610

9 күн бұрын

*Sad Canadian Noises*

@lanemars

9 күн бұрын

Nail yakupov has never been alive for a Canadian teams Stanley cup win and he's wayyyy out of the league

@ThnkQ

9 күн бұрын

@@lanemarsOilers have had lots of high picks, this century. Nail nailed his own NHL cough cough in

@jkliao6486

9 күн бұрын

Now that you've put it that way...

@JoeLouis-hc7mm

9 күн бұрын

Think it's just bad luck for canadian teams

Babe, wake up. It's madness board time!

@trisgilmour

9 күн бұрын

Yea!

I feel like Winnipeg breaking the curse would piss the most people off so that's what I want.

@beaverchicken

9 күн бұрын

I've always thought it'd be Winnipeg or Ottawa to break the curse, just because that'd be funniest and no one would expect it

@bradenkalke2500

9 күн бұрын

@dustyb58 many variables would be funny if the Jets won, no doubt. But the Leafs doing it would "piss off" the most people. For suuuuuuure 😂 Im a Canucks fan btw 🙃

@vipeholmskolan6052

8 күн бұрын

Leafs would piss off the most people by winning.

@JohnnySportsfan

8 күн бұрын

Edmonton or Toronto for me.

@user-te9ni9hp7f

7 күн бұрын

Why

The most important aspect of building a Cup contender is triple-checking that you haven't inadvertently signed Corey Perry

Can't believe you got a Utah jersey early! Very cool they went with the "Utah Hockey Guys", hopefully you're getting some type of royalty!

@LSA30

9 күн бұрын

Low-key a better name than Yeti or Blizzard😂

@KINGPOOPS

9 күн бұрын

Utah HG > Utah HC

@TheHeston83

8 күн бұрын

@@LSA30 Yeti is betther than Hockey Club or Blizzard

I'm just stunned that there were four sweeps in the Stanley Cup Final in a row 😆.

@NickAdams1981

9 күн бұрын

...and none since 98...

@klompsauce

8 күн бұрын

LGRW 🐙🐙🐙🐙

@DodgerFan1988

8 күн бұрын

And three game sevens in a row in the SCF during the mid-2000's.

@SortaNonymous

7 күн бұрын

​@@DodgerFan1988 The last two of them having teams from the south winning their first Cup while defeating Alberta teams whose last cups came back-to-back (Calgary in '89 and Edmonton in '90)

nothing more iconic that a board with "1967" and " lost Rd.1" next to a Leafs magnet

@Borodin410

9 күн бұрын

The refs benefit from expansion. More expansion, more refs, more power. Canadian teams winning the Cup does not increase the popularity of the game in the US, and so does not support expansion. The refs know what to do. Support Bettman's plan to sell hockey to NASCAR dads. They don't have to be told.

@brAnd7onX87

9 күн бұрын

@@Borodin410 This is the dumbest thing I have read today. Thank you.

@Borodin410

9 күн бұрын

@@brAnd7onX87 Look it up. Canadian teams, before Bettman, were penalized in an even distribution. Ever since Bettman took over they are all collected near the top of the league in penalties.

@HarryRiceHockey

9 күн бұрын

@@Borodin410 Sure thing buddy lmao. That explains why the Ducks, Panthers, Coyotes, and Wild were top 4 in penalties and Montreal was 5th, Ottawa was 6th and they both have an enforcer on board so it makes sense why they're near the top. You clearly don't like the fact that Winnipeg was near the bottom of the league in terms of penalized teams. Most of the Canadian teams were more so in the middle for last season. It's kind of funny you clear the NHL wants to help their newer markets when the Islanders, Penguins, and Blues were some of the least penalized teams in the league, and it makes sense. It's almost like if your team holds an enforcer or a very physical player (or multiple), your team will take more penalties wow who would have thought!!

@Borodin410

9 күн бұрын

@@HarryRiceHockey One season in isolation. Look at penalties taken in the playoffs by Canadian teams vs US teams since Bettman took over.

It's crazy that from 95 to 98 there were 4 consecutive years of 4-0 sweeps in the cup final. No wonder people wanted to go back to 1-16, especially 96-98 when the "real cup final" felt like it had been played in an earlier round between the likes of Colorado and Detroit.

There's actually 11 first-time champs in that timeframe, 2012 was the first for the Kings...

You forgot the LA Kings, it was their 1st cup in 2012

@mjsteele42

7 күн бұрын

@@ja3188 I was coming here to say this. I was surprised that he missed that. THG is usually so accurate

@dfp_01

5 күн бұрын

I always forget that Gretzky didn't win one down there

I feel like one thing you neglected to mention is that nearly every Canadian team has made it to the final during the drought (Vancouver '94, Calgary '04, Oilers '06, Ottawa '07, Vancouver '11, Montreal '21, Oilers '24). Not only that, but five of those series went to 7 games (Calgary, both Oilers, and both Vancouver). Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final means anything can happen when a few bounces go your way, and its really shocking that none of those four teams could get the job done! That's what makes it feel like a curse for me. *None* of the American teams on the right side of your board have made it to Game 7 of the final during the drought. (Although four of them have made it to the final (Philly '97, Buffalo '99, Philly '10, San Jose '16, Nashville '17)).

Who knows, maybe Paul Maurice blessed the Jets for next season when he wished they would win a cup

So many people blame Bettman as if he is moving chess pieces around with Refs to make sure Canadian teams don't win lol. I don't think most people know he works for the owners.

@TheHeston83

9 күн бұрын

yeah also as THG pointed the League would lose money by rigging games

@davidwordsworth5584

9 күн бұрын

Bettman works for money. more money to be made in the US hence he is inclined to support conditions that support the US.

@beaverchicken

9 күн бұрын

​@@TheHeston83and Hockey seems like an incredibly hard game to rig. Especially considering the amount of staff needed to run these games, the outcomes being pre-determined WITHOUT ever being leaked seems like an impossibility

@beaverchicken

9 күн бұрын

​@@davidwordsworth5584Isn't Toronto the 2nd most profitable franchise? Montreal is up there too. If he wanted money he'd send those teams to the finals and would cash in BIG time

@nathanbrisebois8756

9 күн бұрын

It's not a single force preventing canadian forces from winning, it's alot of factors, namely higher taxes, and its a sheer numbers game at the end of the day, there's only 7 canadian teams of 32 teams, and even before expansions, there have generally been more American teams, that skews the odds in American teams' favor.

I will never not laugh at the fact an American team has won the Grey cup more recently than a Canadian team has won the Stanley Cup

@raytaylor6412

9 күн бұрын

And that team (Baltimore Stallions) moved to Montreal after winning the Grey Cup.

@Newbobdole

9 күн бұрын

The Baltimore Stallions’ success played a HUGE role in us getting the Ravens not long after

@bryanthomas7022

8 күн бұрын

They saw to it in the CFL that An American based team made it to the Grey Cup, right out of the gate. Much like they did with the NHL during their 1968 expansion. The NHL actively works to ensure we see 2 American based teams whenever they can. The day before the League looked the other way on the Wayne Gretzky High stick that cut Doug Gilmour under his chin for 7 stitches, in OT of game 6 of the 93 Conference Final, with the Leaf's up 3 games to 2 and Montreal already clinching as the Eastern Conference representative, the American Networks had announced that their would be no Stanley Cup Final coverage if it were to be the Leaf's vs Hab's. Gretzky should have got 5 and a game and the Leaf's who were short handed at the time, should have had a 4 minute PP after about a minute of 4 on 4 had expired. But the Kings were protected and there was no call and Gretzky himself was allowed to stay on the ice and score the Kings PP OT winner, seconds later. That happened, whether you like it or not. BTW, the Leaf's swept the season series with the Hab's that year. A Finals against them would have been a favorable match-up for Toronto.

@BloodRider1914

8 күн бұрын

Also keep in mind that the Blue Jays won the World Series twice, the Raptors won the NBA Finals, and Toronto FC has won the MLS cup in the meantime

@marcpower4167

8 күн бұрын

​@BloodRider1914 well the jays last world championship was in 93. Ironically the same year Montreal won the Stanley cup. So it's also been 31 years since a Canadian team won an MLB world series, granted the blue jays are the only Canadian team currently, but the Montreal Expos didn't move to Washington until 2005.

1:30 Kansas City Scouts actually entered in 1974 with the Capitals. (1972 was Islanders and Atlanta Flames.)

I've been watching this silly game since '66, I have to agree with your view of Quick's run. He was almost a video game at times. Not Dryden, Smith, Fuhr, Roy, Hasek, Brodeur or Crawford and Fleury, absolutely stole as many games in the playoffs, as did Jonathan Quick.

The oilers remind me of the 89-90 Chicago bulls. Jordan didn't get his first championship til he was 30. When he and Pippen figured out how to win that was it for the rest of the league, for a long while.

Welcome to the Hockey Guy's house of fun!!!

"they would have re hired them and fired them again" love it lol

Funny thing is right up to 94, the Canadian teams dominated winning the Cup. If we start in 1955, when the Red Wings won their 4th cup in seven years, and go to 94, Chicago won once, Boston won twice, Philly won twice, the Islanders won 4 times and Pittsburgh won twice. That's 11 cups to US teams out of 39, and most of that time the US teams outnumbered Canadian teams at least 2-to-1. When I was growing up I attributed this to the Canadian teams being more serious about winning while the American teams just liked to party & get drunk (having heard lots of stories, especially about the Bruins). And in those days, ALL the players in the league were Canadian, except for Tommy Williams. It's just that when they played for Canadian teams they were there to win, but when they came south of the border it was all for fun (and money).

@BMXIX

8 күн бұрын

Bettman put an end to that nonsense lol.....As a Habs fan he's gotta go

@RRaquello

8 күн бұрын

@@BMXIX In the case of the Canadiens, they have qualifications irrelevant to competence in building a team, unique to their team, that may keep them from hiring the best man for coach, GM, team president, etc. That is, they have to speak French. It seems to me this is also the case with other Canadian teams. Not the "speak French" part, but political (and business) considerations that have nothing to do with running a hockey team keep them from hiring the best man for the job. US teams usually aren't held to the same constraints and this has helped them be more successful over the last 30 years.

@lordrayden3045

8 күн бұрын

@@BMXIX Right….. bettman Sure thing

@dunnowy123

8 күн бұрын

Yeah, if you were to tell someone in 1984 or something that Canadian teams wouldn't hoist the Stanley Cup for an unbroken period of 31 FUCKING YEARS, they'd probably think you were on something. It's utterly bizarre.

@MDK2_Radio

8 күн бұрын

@@RRaquello if you really look at it, it’s just that dynasties were easier to assemble then, and it just happened that two of them were home in Canadian cities.

This was also The Kings first

@justinz39sabres

9 күн бұрын

i was about to comment to same thing but i’m only half way through so i wasn’t sure if he was guna fix it or not lol

@tjolsonmcse

8 күн бұрын

@@justinz39sabres Took 45 years

Ohhh Canada…

Man if NJ could have only gotten a split at home in one of those 2 OT games that series would have looked different. 2 posts in the one game, but wasn't meant to be. Quick felt unbeatable.

@boriskovtun6094

7 күн бұрын

Agreed. However, the 2001 finals stang worse for me. That collapse after taking a 3-2 lead in the series and with game 6 at home was surreal.

That Tampa-Montreal Cup Final will always be odd to me for the novelty of two Wales teams playing for the Cup

@kokocaptainqc

9 күн бұрын

habs did something no other team has been able to or will ever be able to do again....an eastern team won the western trophy

Its madness. Total madness. And I love it.

These people who keep saying Bettman won’t ALLOW a Canadian team to win the Cup. There’s NO conspiracy. What do you think he’s doing? Going into the Canadian team dressing rooms and ordering them to lose ?

@Newbobdole

9 күн бұрын

My headcanon is that Bettman impishly traipses around the locker rooms during the playoffs, pulling sick pranks on the Canadian NHL teams Like, electric shocker in his palm for handshakes, a lapel flower that sprays water, whoopee cushions on the benches…the whole nine yards

Thank you Shannon for an amazing video! Puts things nicely into a perspective.

Thank you for posting this on July 4th Weekend. We in the US are smiling as we watch this video!

@adam.vision

7 күн бұрын

Your smiling because a Canadian team hasn't won in over 30 years? Nice.

@flattrack33

7 күн бұрын

@@adam.vision bit funny, innit?

Well hey, at least the Conn Smythe drought ended this year!

@BloodRider1914

8 күн бұрын

Ah yes, the individual trophy that literally went to a Canadian player in 2023 too. What a steal.

@naovoulembrarasenha

7 күн бұрын

9 Canadians won the Conn Smythe since 2010..

@naovoulembrarasenha

7 күн бұрын

and 15 since 2000

"I could see Vegas winning another (Stanley cup), which I'm sure everybody will have a completely rational reaction to" made me laugh out loud. You're so based, honestly, in your takes. Love your videos man!

@BloodRider1914

8 күн бұрын

I don't hate Vegas, they have real hockey fans there who do properly love their team.

Honestly, no Canadian team has any chance during the salary explosion in the 90s. 2004 Flames, 2006 Oilers and 2021 Canadiens are total flukes. 2007 Sens and 2024 Oilers just aren't meant to be. 2011 Canucks had the best shot (up 2 games to none) but self destructed late in Game 3. Right now the Oilers and the Canucks have the best chance to end the drought, providing their key players can stay healthy. In the foreseeable future, I like the Sens.

@beaverchicken

9 күн бұрын

Didn't the the Flames and Oilers take it to 7 games in 2004 and 6? Calling that a fluke when Flames MIGHT'VE scored a cup winning goal that wasn't called.... Idk man

@Helvigster

9 күн бұрын

@@beaverchicken ehh it was pretty much a fluke looking back at it now. 2004 was their first time they made it past Round 1 since their cup win, they had missed the playoffs about 6 or 7 seasons in a row before 2004, and they didn't even make it past Round 1 again until 2015. I'd say that's a fluke run

@kokocaptainqc

9 күн бұрын

@@beaverchicken i wouldnt call them flukes but id call them goalie epic runs tho

@PistonHeaven

9 күн бұрын

2024 oilers wasn’t a fluke either you don’t get to game 7 of the SCF by luck

@dumbestoyster

9 күн бұрын

Vancouver isn't making the playoffs in 24/25

I feel like the Colorado avalanche's first Stanley cup could almost be considered a cup win for Canada

This video obviously took a ton of time and effort. Well done!

It's pretty simple really, Patrick Roy not only cursed the Canadians he cursed all of Canada! The question is when will he lift the curse?!?

It would be either Montreal or Edmonton break the thing

@olgak57

8 күн бұрын

I hope Montreal

The Cup is quite old and prefers to live in Florida at this stage in its life.

In my lifetime I'd love to see a Buffalo v Vancouver SCF! I'm 55!

@JonDoe-ln6nl

8 күн бұрын

As a Sabres fan, I think the series would be called off at 3-3 so neither team would win. Sigh. 😢

Sad reminder the only time Columbus finished in the top 10, they finished 4th. That was 3rd in their division. Finishing 4th in the NHL and not even getting home ice. Horrendous luck.

Colorado is the only team with a perfect finals record

Look at that the wings have the most cups in the last 30 years

@appleseider

6 күн бұрын

And it’s been 16 years

I'm a Minnesotan, many Minnesotans have won the Cup over the years, but not the North Stars or the Wild. I hope both Minnesota and Canada break the droughts soon.

@jackyfudge5115

5 күн бұрын

I always say that the Wild is practically a Canadian team with the hockey culture. Sad to see the curse extends to it too...

Anaheim wasnt a favorite going into the 2007 playoffs? Are you kidding me? People were handing them The Cup in December 2006. 😂

@nathanbrisebois8756

9 күн бұрын

I am a Sens fan, I remember most people I talked to said we needed to be perfect in the SCF against them, and even still it might not be enough. That Anaheim Team was complete from the net out in every way, we were lucky to win 1 game against them

@nathanbrisebois8756

9 күн бұрын

Young Bobby Ryan in his prime, a young Corey Perry in his prime, Getzlaf in his prime, Silferberg in his prime, Scott Neidermayer and Chris Pronger as your top d pair, that Anaheim team was killer

@benlee7864

8 күн бұрын

@@nathanbrisebois8756 Bobby Ryan wasn't on the Cup winning Anaheim team.

@CrimsonicStorm

8 күн бұрын

@@nathanbrisebois8756 You clearly dont have a good memory lmfao. Bobby Ryan "in his prime"... you sure? Dude Bobby Ryan wasn't even on the team, let alone "in his prime". Ryan was *just* drafted in 2005. Silfverberg in his prime?? Bro, Silfverberg wasn't even drafted yet he was 16 years old, when Anaheim won the cup. Ottawa drafted Silfverberg in the second round in 2009 and traded him to the ducks in 2013... he wasn't even a duck until 2013... yet somehow you remember him beating your Sens in 2007...??

@nathanbrisebois8756

8 күн бұрын

@@CrimsonicStorm daydrunk my bad

From rabbit hole to beyond the looking glass! I’m in as usual

I'm sorry, I chuckled so hard at the Leafs "And of course they lost in the first round this year".

Yes, location has a small part to play, some players simply prefer to play in the US, that's a fact, and taxes/language sometimes comes into play. But if you think any of that is MORE of a factor than the league adding more teams and just globalization as a whole, you are kidding yourself. There is proportionally many less Canadians than then there ever was in the league, because there are more Americans, more Europeans, more Russians and heck, Asian players coming in. That's a good thing. That means the game, globally is getting healthier and healthier. The Czech Republic just won a gold medal at the worlds that no one saw coming, that's a good thing. It's called growth, and although it's MUCH slower than the other sports/leagues, it's there. Good.

Have you considered getting a team USA jersey for this yearly video? 😂

a Canadian team will not win a cup again until Montreal does first, they were the last to win therefor they have to be the one to break the curse. after they win we will start seeing more Canadian teams win more often but will not happen until Habs do first

@MDK2_Radio

9 күн бұрын

What are some of your other superstitions?

Love how some people really blame Bettman as the reason for the drought and that he’s somehow 100% responsible for why the Oilers lost that Game 7 Nothing to blame on the Edmonton players and coaches…just Gary Bettman?

@Borodin410

9 күн бұрын

The refs benefit from expansion. More expansion, more refs, more power. Canadian teams winning the Cup does not increase the popularity of the game in the US, and so does not support expansion. The refs know what to do. Support Bettman's plan to sell hockey to NASCAR dads. They don't have to be told.

@TheHeston83

9 күн бұрын

@@Borodin410 bad calls happen its not some conspiracy you just posted teams have been just good please I am american hockey fan stop making us the enemy

@Borodin410

9 күн бұрын

@@TheHeston83 Before Bettman came in with the expansion mandate, Canadian teams were evenly distributed among the other teams in the league in terms of taking penalties. After Bettman, and since, Canadian teams have collected near the top of the league in taking penalties. The refs know what they're doing. So does Bettman.

@MDK2_Radio

9 күн бұрын

@@Borodin410your claim is demonstrably false. Please stop.

@JWex-jy7sk

9 күн бұрын

@@Borodin410 Okay…so how does any of that explain Edmonton not being able to shoot a puck with accuracy into the net Game 7?

It's insane there's billions of people that have not been alive long enough to see a Canadian team win the cup

"I dont want to just sit here and dump on Canadian franchises." Cmon Shannon, why do you think we're all here?

@olgak57

8 күн бұрын

Exactly 😂

Good information.

There is an element of bad luck to it. During the "drought" there have been nine 7-game finals, and a Canadian team has lost five of those (Canucks x2, Oilers x2, Flames).

I swear I’ve read an article about how the flyers have been historically unlucky in their history and should’ve had more cups

The only reason that St. Louis was in last place (regular season) during their Stanley Cup season was because they had played fewer games than any of the other teams at that point in the season.

The oilers lost twice in the finals in game 7 to two teams that won there first Stanley Cups.

@Frizzyy

9 күн бұрын

Vancouver has also had 2 x game 7 L's during the drought

@tjolsonmcse

8 күн бұрын

@@Frizzyy I see 5 Game 7 loses by Canadian teams Oilers x2 Canucks x2 Flames x1

@nickr5311

6 күн бұрын

And those two teams were both from the American South

“Mickey Mouse organization” lol

Hi Shannon! This video made me of the 6 expansion teams of 1967 and how relatively unsuccessful they’ve been other than the Penguins. Blues 1 Cup, Stars 1 Cup, Kings 2 Cups, Flyers 2 Cups, Seals/Barons defunct. Only the Penguins have as many as 5 Cups. In addition, many of them had severe financial troubles or needed to move. I think this could be a topic you could present.

Watch out for Nashville this upcoming year !

Good point: 19 of 28 SC's for 6 teams. Cups are won in runs of dominance. I'd divide it by "team cores" though. The first two Av wins were by a totally different core from the most recent one. As was TBL's cores from their first SC and their two most recent.

The KC Scouts entered the league in 1974 (now New Jersey).

Avs only team to go cup to rebuild to cup in this span. Would also like to see which cup winners had a #1 draft selection on their roster.

@MDK2_Radio

9 күн бұрын

Just off the top of my head, Avs had MacKinnon and Erik Johnson for the most recent one (though obviously they didn’t draft Johnson), Penguins had two (Crosby and Fleury) along with 2nd overall (behind Ovi) Evgeni Malkin, Capitals had Ovi.

great video, I cannot believe the canadiens have only been top 10 6 times...embarrassing

That's the thing. When Canadian teams make the Final, it's almost always as the underdog. Of the 7 who've reached that point since 1994, only Vancouver had home-ice advantage. And they decided not to show up for their away games (in Boston), leaving them on thin ice. It'd be one thing if Canadian teams dominate and then inexplicably wilt in the Final. But the fact is they simply haven't been operating on as high a level as some of their American counterparts.

Man I would love to see Vancouver win the cup but I do feel Edmonton is the favorite, Calgary and Winnipeg would be awesome as well, Montreal seems to be building a good pipeline, Ottawa building there core and Toronto seems to implode from within

Fully half the current NHL teams have not won in this time span. Under 1/3 of current NHL teams are Canadian. Not really a curse to me lol

@HDreamer

9 күн бұрын

There's 32 teams in the league after all, if the Cup was awarded on a rotation, each team would win once in 32 years. But since that's not how it's done and the same teams win multiple times, there just have to be a lot of teams with long droughts.

I think the 30 year Canadian cup drought is a top 5 favorite thing in sports for me

Getting fired by the same company multiple times.... I never considered that....too late now. 😢😢😢😢

# 1993 - Montreal Canadiens beats LA Kings = To date the last time a Canadian team won the Cup. # 1994 - NY Rangers beats Vancouver Canucks. # 2004 - Tampa Bay Lightning beats Calgary Flames. # 2006 - Carolina Hurricanes beats Edmonton Oilers. # 2007 - Anaheim Ducks beats Ottawa Senators. # 2011 - Boston Bruins beats Vancouver Canucks. # 2021 - TB Lightning beats Montreal Canadiens. # 2024 - Florida Panthers beats Edmonton Oilers. No Canadian based NHL team since 1993 have won a Stanley Cup championship, and in 30 seasons since then, ONLY 7 Finals have featured a Canadian NHL team, including Canucks & Oilers 2x each. Winnipeg Jets (both versions) have so far never managed to play a finals-series and the Maple Leafs have not been in the finals since 1967 = Record Finals Cup drought of 57 years and counting.

Coincidentally, the 1994 NHL playoffs are considered the greatest of any of the major North American pro sports ever.

16 teams have not won. Of the 16, 7 are canadian, or 43.75% Considering that those canadian teams make 21.87% of the league, we can safely say that canadian teams are over-represemted in the "have not won the cup" subset. This is not an anomaly, this is by design.

@lordrayden3045

8 күн бұрын

Yeah….. Real big brained comment there Feel free to expand on your conspiracy

@OldDistantHermit

8 күн бұрын

Tell me you don't know how probability works without saying it outright

@lordrayden3045

8 күн бұрын

@@OldDistantHermit It’s incredible mental gymnastics

It's coming home. 30 years of hurt never stopped us dreaming.

I can use my age as a tracker for this since I was born in 93. Never in my lifetime has a canadian team won the cup.

as an American Hockey fan I hope to see a Canadian Team hoist the Stanley Cup in my lifetime .

@raptor4916

8 күн бұрын

Why? I hope the Cup naturalizes and renounces its Title so it just becomes Fred Stanley's Cup.

Toronto and Buffalo feel like the most cursed.

@JaredLS10

9 күн бұрын

Must be something in the waters of Lake Ontario.

@JonDoe-ln6nl

8 күн бұрын

Tell me about it (says this Sabres fan). I’m coming to terms with never seeing a Championship (Bills included). But it’s OK as long as (1) Toronto never wins (2) Vancouver (expansion twin) only wins after a Sabres miracle.

@Spanishflea.

8 күн бұрын

I dunno man Ottawa feels real cursed.

LA Kings fans knew it was going to be a drought. We still remember 1993. We will always remember!

Look at all those Winged Wheels up there.

It has to be taxes. There’s no other explanation for the drought besides maybe Gary pulling some strings to swing series on occasion.

If you look at the left side of this board All i see is Steve Yzerman 1996 final loss vs devils 1998 finals win vs Philly 1999 finals win vs Capitals 2003 finals win vs Hurricanes 2008 finals win vs Penguins 2009 finals loss vs Penguins Gm mode 2020 finals win vs Stars 2021 finals win vs Canadians 2022 finals loss vs Avalanche It is crazy that anyone doubts Steve Yzerman i mean the man has the more impact on the NHL in the last 25 yrs than any other person He has just as many finals appearances as Wayne Gretzky And just as many rings Plus he had a positive impact as a Gm Unlike Gretzkys horrible stint as coach (I know he was no longer gm when tampa bay became contenders)

I honestly believe this isn't scripted and Shannon is pouring this knowledge out of his brain.

Gelinas scored

@AnimalClans

9 күн бұрын

Where's the proof?

I counted for fun, he has 440 magnets on that board

@cdfmmcc

9 күн бұрын

Madness on both ends

@kokocaptainqc

9 күн бұрын

yep and 440 are good V8 engines....in engine you need ....OIL!...Oilers win next year! 😂

O Canada when will you win a Stanley Cup? Probably never.

At this point, I don’t care who pulls it off

Here’s to another 30 🥂

So in 27 years, out of the 54 SC finalists, 7 were Canadian, or 13%. If every team has an equal chance at making the SCF, 7 out of (roughly) 31 is 23%.

if anything its impressive how many times a (different even) Canadian team made the finals in that "drought" considering how much more US teams there are not to mention all the mini dynasties that emerged in the US

The Wings of the 90s were a dynasty, they easily could have Won more then the entire rest of the league, people who weren't around don't understand how good that team was.

Shannon loves to use 1994 as an important reference in time 🤭

actually 11 firsts 1 New Jersey 1995 2 Colorado 1996 3 Dallas 1999 4 Tampa Bay 2004 5 Carolina 2006 6 Anaheim 2007 7 Los Angeles 2012 8 Washington 2018 9 St. Louis 2019 10 Vegas 2023 11 Florida 2024

Here's a theory, especially for the more recent Cup champions. Canadian teams are highly reluctant to incorporate high-performing Russian superstars into their teams. Look at Bobrovsky, Kucherov, Vasilevsky, Ovechkin, Malkin, Taraschenko, etc. In fact, I can't recall a single Russian superstar ever playing for a Canadian team (but my memory is not that good). I call this the "Don Cherry Effect". There may be an inherent bias for Canadian teams to acquire top Russian players, which often makes a big difference.

@andreylopatin7230

9 күн бұрын

Pavel Bure was one, I guess? Vancouver in general seems to be incorporating plenty of russian players. So does Montreal I think. Markov and Emelin were the staples of their defence for years. Kovalev also played there significant time. Teams like Jets, Oilers, Flames don't use a lot of russian players indeed (although Oilers tried to draft Yakupov, to their credit. Did not end well for them). But I think they are just more canadian-leaning in general. I saw a chart that showed this year's Oliers were almost entirely canadian, which is pretty rare in today's league. Also, on the other hand, Boston is one of the least russian-friendly teams in the league, and they've been doing relatively well in the last 15 years. So I'm not sure there are any grand conspiracies in this regard.

@gp2k00

9 күн бұрын

Pavel Bure for the Canucks (and he did play for them in the drought era).

@ishave1627

9 күн бұрын

@@andreylopatin7230 I was referring to a more recent trend of SC winners, say in the last decade. The examples you gave me, like Bure (retired in 2003) and Boston (last SC cup in 2011), do not really address my point of recent SC winners having Russian superstars. Markov and Emelin were decent players, but not on the level of Russian superstars I gave in my list. I still stand by my hypothesis.

@MDK2_Radio

9 күн бұрын

@@ishave1627some of the guys you mentioned were can’t-miss top draft picks so Canadian teams didn’t have a chance at them unless it was via free agency years into their careers. And although I can’t speak for every team, my Avs never had a key Russian player during any of their Cup runs. I remember one Russian being on the 96 squad but he wasn’t a top player.

@ishave1627

9 күн бұрын

@@MDK2_Radio I'm not saying you absolutely need a Russian superstar to win the Cup (like your Avs). And I know some of those players were top draft picks. but Kucherov was drafted 58th, so every team had a shot at him, Vasilevsky 19th, Tarasenko 16th and Bobrovsky was undrafted. And some Canadian teams have been pretty bad over the years so it can't be argued they didn't have high draft picks. The biggest implication here is that if certain teams exclusively "neglect" a geographical area containing high-end players, they're not availing themselves of the best talent pool. I don't know what goes on in the war rooms of Canadian NHL teams, and I'm pretty sure it's not explicitly said, it's just that it struck me as a pretty obvious roster coincidence that all of the Canadian teams don't seem to have Russian superstars.

Was really hoping you'd bring up Hossa during that 2008-2010 run. Lost win the Pens, moved to Detroit. Lost with Detroit, moves to Chicago. Finally wins it with Chicago and I don't think I've ever rooted against a team harder; partly as a Wings fan but most because losing in the Final 3 times in a row with 3 different teams would have been a hilarious record.

Someone (not THG, he gets it) needs to explain to me how it's Bettman's fault that the Canucks lost a Game 7 (twice), the Oilers lost a Game 7 (twice), the Flames lost a Game 7, the Senators and Habs couldn't even get to a Game 7, the Leafs (who got Auston Mathews even though lots of fans up north swore up and down the lottery would be "rigged" for Arizona) and Jets (who many fans up north blame Bettman for losing but don't credit him for returning??!) cant even get to a Final. Yep, all Bettman's fault.

@greensmadden13

7 күн бұрын

Once Canadian teams are in the final, anything can happen. The fact that they're 0-7 is an anomaly Gary continually expanding the league though into the US is a big problem for Canadian teams. It's more teams to play against, free agents going elsewhere, draft picks going south etc. All this for American cities where the NHL is the #4 or #5 sports league in town. Edmonton was a street party for three weeks

I think the Sens are shaping up well and could get there in a couple years. Need to see them make the playoffs this coming season, though!

14:18 I'm pretty sure they did do that in Claude Julien's case.

@kokocaptainqc

9 күн бұрын

and therrien

If you picked 7 teams at random, the odds of every single one not having won a cup in the last 30 years or so would be incredibly low. The Canadian teams are those 7 teams. It's far more likely that there is some common factor about being a Canadian team that is preventing them from winning. It's not a matter of chance, there is a reason- but it's stupid to call it a curse. Taxes or pressure probably, probably a mix of both.

@BloodRider1914

8 күн бұрын

It's on a team by team basis. Here's my crackpot analysis Habs: After Roy left management never undertook a full rebuild and the Habs were mostly a yo-yo playoff team with some occasional strong performances (Carey Price's mostly), but it took until Bergevin's firing to get good management. Sens: An absolute joke of a franchise at times which got to the finals once but has suffered from serious underinvestment. Leafs: Literally the worst management in the NHL under Ballard which polluted the franchise. They've been contending for nearly a decade at this point but have weak fan-pleasing management. Jets: No one wants to play in Winnipeg, it's that simple. Oilers: After 2006 they had a mixture of awful luck and poor management which led to a long enforced rebuild, but since then they at least got lucky with the draft in 2015 (after the Yakopov disaster) but have struggled until recently with depth. Flames: I don't know as much about them other than that they got fucked by Tkatchuk but they're going into a rebuild probably so ehh. Canucks: Good teams that just can't get over the hump, but I see them contending from now on.

I love that my canes have finished top 3 the last 4 years and have 0 wins in the ecf 😁

There was a stretch in the 90's into the 00's when it became basically impossible for Canadian teams to compete at the top because of finances. It would have taken a fluke. I think that has leveled out, not completely but to a certain degree. I would bet the drought ends in the next few years. The Oilers would be the obvious ones given their playoff run, but the Jets, Leafs, and Canucks aren't too far off either.

Anyone but Edmonton.

This Minnesota fan feels your pain. We are as close to Canada as you can get when it comes to hockey. No cups and got the added bonus of watching my favorite team hoist the cup 6 years after they left us. Thank god for alcohol 🍻

@JanSobieskiIII

8 күн бұрын

Samalis invading the twin cities and you’re drinking over sportsball……?

@TheHeston83

8 күн бұрын

Florida is now the State Of Hockey not shitty Minnesota

@stevelacroix2404

8 күн бұрын

Thanks for that. You really bring a lot to the discussion

Baltimore!! I remember that.