PUSHING OG BMW E86 Z4 3.0 with PROPER Track Mods 🔥 // Nürbugring
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Disclaimer: the actions performed in this video are executed by professionals or individuals that consider themselves professional on a closed circuit within the local regulations.
00:00 Intro/Specs
02:51 Lap
12:15 Thoughts
Пікірлер: 210
I'd like to thank: Misha for the incredible experience; and Mat Armstrong for ripping the splitter off his Cayman so we had extra time for this lap. Gálffy-Tuning and Poll-Tom in Hungary for refreshing the car after the little crunch on the Hungaroring. And of course PEMAC Fahrzeugtechnik for the setup. Many shops have no idea how to set up a mixed-use car, but they do.
@mgcharoudin
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the trust, really happy we could make it happen!
@MM_45
4 ай бұрын
@@mgcharoudinhello Misha I’m a big fan of yours. Is there a way I can get a ride along with you, asking because I’m disabled and going to Nurburgring has always been a dream. I will be visiting Germany in September.
@dlaciko13
4 ай бұрын
Jó a verda Csaba,gratula!:)
@newagetemplar6100
4 ай бұрын
At least Mat Armstrong made it round the track , last time he broke his Audi in the states . 🙄😃. Didn’t know the wheelbase was 300mm shorter than an E46 , do s it turn in better or is it a bit twitchy a high speed ?
@tocsa120ls
4 ай бұрын
@@newagetemplar6100 the difference in wheelbase is 230mm and the total length is is actually more like 400 --- the whole car is more lively and it loves to hang its ass out... a bit too much actually :)
this man shifts quick, must be called SMG (single misha gearbox)
The E85/E86 Z4. The world's most underrated and under appreciated sportscar. Timeless beauty.
@AntoniFZ6
3 ай бұрын
Frr not enough love on them, cant wait to get mine
@gunnarboy8989
3 ай бұрын
U can buy mine . Bmw z4 cab 2003. 3L. 👍@@AntoniFZ6
@philipproud9046
3 ай бұрын
I have only the 2litre e85 z4 convertible and it still has plenty of go! They so light..& still comfortable for long drives with heated leather seats.. Great cars next is the 3 litre coupe z4
@gunnarboy8989
3 ай бұрын
@@philipproud9046 I have the 3 liters cab 2003 model. But im planning to sell it thoe.
@GSX455s
2 ай бұрын
My grandma had a 3.0 smg one. Loved driving it when she let me. She got a few speeding tickets in it lol
the Alpina wheels
I wish a Z4M shows up to this channel. The M does make a hella difference on the Z4. Long live the s54!!!
@attiliopetrini4507
4 ай бұрын
Was thinking exactly the same. I have a Z4M coupe and I’m sure that with KW V3s and upgraded brakes would be a stiff challenge for many more expensive and “fancier” cars. Hope Misha gets his hands on one
@enfantterrible4868
4 ай бұрын
@@attiliopetrini4507give him yours lmao
@beauwulf
Ай бұрын
The z4 M coupe is 200lbs heavier in the front than this 3.0si coupe, making it much faster in a straight line, but the extra weight also makes it less nimble.
@KeynSong
Ай бұрын
My track experience says you’re so so wrong. The weight difference is vanished by the different M suspension. Even with suspension upgrades on either, on most tracks the difference is 2-3 seconds average. So you stick with you base geometry on the 3.0 I’ll stick to my s55. All day any day
@penamena5238
12 күн бұрын
@@KeynSongwdym base geometry? The suspension geometry is the same. The M just has different tuning and maybe a few different components (apart from engine obviously)
Underrated BMW 🚀🚀
This makes me so happy! Not only a Z4 Coupe, but the manual 3.0si that I have too! Love it to death.
@mr.smiley991
4 ай бұрын
Same
I miss my 2005 3.0i and my later 2008 3.0si Roadsters, they were beautiful to drive on narrow curvy roads.
@AKK5I
4 ай бұрын
They are amazing cars with great chassis balance and solid drivetrains. Surprisingly practical too! I did a road trip of 2000kms in my 3.0i and it never skipped a beat or felt claustrophobic. My dream is to own the M coupe eventually
@Z4coupeuk
4 ай бұрын
Love from a Z4 coupe owner 👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽
Great lap to watch! I have the Z4M coupe and heading up to the ring in May if you ever want to do a lap Misha.
@coolguy_2997
4 ай бұрын
It would be amazing, but I hope your car has proper brakes, suspension and some semislicks before Misha drives it😊
@nicco458
4 ай бұрын
@@coolguy_2997ahh it's completely stock with ContactSport 7s.haha
The smile on buddies face when you passed the Porsche 😂
That Z4 looks amazing! Great drive!
And MR Oizo aka Flat Eric sat in the passenger seat, Flat Beats…. Love it 🫶👊💥
pure understatement. nice and chill. not too much show off (although BMW), relatively light and crisp but not to uncomfortable as a daily.
Absolutely amazing lap of the ring!! Z4 is such an overlooked car, especially the M variant with the S54 out of the M3.
I’ve had my Z4M for almost two years and gearing up for a mountain run; an old boss I looked up to had the clownshoe M coupe which is how I was introduced to the platform. I test drove one that had some alpina wheels and this is the first time I’ve seen anyone have them on the Z4 chassis. This has reignited my desire to do the combo. Thanks for the Z4 love and inspo!! This car looks like almost nothing else on the road is so underrated.
2:19 Flat Eric!
@spavatch
4 ай бұрын
Flat-shift Eric 😅
This video literally couldn’t have gotten posted at a better time! I’m getting ready to buy a convertible 3.0si and wanted to see this rip on a track!
@aurimaspetrauskas9095
4 ай бұрын
I have 3.0si automatic for sale if you are interested :)
@johanslecht2636
4 ай бұрын
You cannot compare the roadster with the coupe, the coupe is much stiffer and therefore drives much better. But good choice, I have had an E85 3.0IS for years. Open ride is so nice!
@Organic_Speed
4 ай бұрын
@@johanslecht2636 notes taken 📝 thx man. My first car was a 99 z4 2.8 which I loved! Can’t wait for another Z . All above a great platform and weekend warrior!
Awesome drive! One of my favorite cars, would want to get one if not NC Miata. Definitely what I'm going to upgrade too in a couple years.
It's crazy what a difference the lower front camera can do to the feel of the car's movement. It felt so alive in the the Z4!
Nice! Been waiting for an E85/E86 to show up on your channel! Now let's find a Z4M!
What a superb machine, really enjoyed the vid. Well driven Misha..🙂
One of my all time favorite BMWs. Only ever experienced it once. Love the seating position.
Great vid! A hydraulic PAS swap really transforms these when the EPAS eventually says good night! Light 18" wheels also help.
@markythegreat
4 ай бұрын
How viable is this? I preferred the hydraulic PAS in my E90 to the EPAS in either of my Z4s, although I did boil the e90 PAS fluid on track once.
Timeless car , great lap, 3000 z4 roadsters ever produced , a rare sight
That car with a agressive 17" wheels and tires will be realy good fun track car! Like the video.
Nice car and nice lap.. and very nice E24 in the beginning of lap!!👍
Thanks for showing people what a Z4 is capable of.
@tocsa120ls
4 ай бұрын
(...with big brake kit, sticky tires, LSD and a V3 CS suspension)
@HellndZ
4 ай бұрын
@@tocsa120ls yeah, I know, but people keeps underraring the Z4. I know OEM has bigs issues like brake fadding or too confortable.
@kanaric
4 ай бұрын
so regular af track mods that every car should have before hitting nur?@@tocsa120ls
@tocsa120ls
4 ай бұрын
@@kanaric I argue the only track mod you need for the Ring are proper uprated brakes and new fluid. You can have fun with a stock suspension but you'll burn up your stock brakes.
@nikolasmelacrinidis5348
4 ай бұрын
@@tocsa120lsit’s a coupe it’s not the same
Love the car, and some incredible driving skills. This is the most underrated BMW ever produced.
Smooth gearbox, good driving as always.
I have been waiting 3 years for him to do a video with this vehicle I had the same vehicle with standard wheels and have wondered how it would handle on the track.👍similar set up...
I have a Z4M Roadster! Sorry I'm not in Germany. I drive Watkins Glen in upstate New York. I was supposed to take it easy this year but Misha is giving me bad ideas.
I've had a Z4 coupe, the challenges with these cars are most of the owners just seem to want to clean and polish them, and so finding and fitting track oriented parts is a struggle. I got some buckets in mine but not without a lot of fettling, almost nowhere to fit harnesses, no off the shelf half cages, etc etc. Otherwise it's a great and under-rated platform. N52 engines are great and take loads of abuse but this is widely known. I ended up switching to a 330i as although it was 100-200kg heavier, I could fit a full set of track tyres on the rear seats and a jack and tools in the boot.
Such a nice and reliable car!
should perform well! its doing what it was designed for and this is a good one. I have always wanted one but european cars are very expensive to keep in australia as far as service and parts.
classic BMW design. love it. I heard they are making a g87 M2 shooting brake.
great stuff thanks
I enjoyed this one -- next up, I'd be interested to see an e86 Z4 M Coupe with the S54 engine and LSD.
@romka_ind
4 ай бұрын
Good luck finding one and convincing the owner to bring it. They are quite rare today.
@tocsa120ls
4 ай бұрын
@@romka_ind I even say it at the end... they made like 1520 pieces of E86 Z4M. Not likely to happen.
@stevenmishos
4 ай бұрын
@@romka_ind I'd bring mine if I was closer, but it's a long drive from Canada ;)
@beanmw96
4 ай бұрын
@@romka_indthere is one parked on my street under a car cover lol, they’re rare but still out there!
@romka_ind
4 ай бұрын
@@beanmw96 you're lucky you seen one in "flesh".
In the meantime, the car looks pretty cool with those Alpina wheel.
just a perfect video as I am shopping for my perfect Z4 coupe :)
I had no idea these came with an N52. Actually a very cool motor. With the valvetronic system you can run velocity stacks and no throttle body.
@tocsa120ls
4 ай бұрын
There are some otherworldly tunes for them, MILV mod for more intake opening, deleting the wimpy 'backup' throttle body... it is a helluva lot of work for 25hp though.
@austinnafziger4159
4 ай бұрын
I cant wait till 22RPDs velocity stack kit comes out. Going to do a whole load of mods at once. Headers, MILVs and the VSs. Love the N52.
I have an E37 and love the looks and significant weight advantage -- but the wet noodle chassis compared to the E86 certainly limits confidence at a brisk pace.
I suppose when Misha is focused af that means the car is good, right?
Enjoyed that👍
Hey Misha, absolutely love your channel. I always recommend your channel to every car guy I know. Just asking, is there any way we could enjoy these videos in 60fps? I think it would be truly an experience to watch the rides in the buttery smooth framerate if possible.
14:00 that BMW 540i G31 is meeee holy fuck, hope to meet you in April when I go again lol I'm wondering if there's any point asking if you want to drive it. It's just a stock touring with 333 PS, but Luxury Line instead of M Line for a change 🤪
@Imnameless69
4 ай бұрын
Nice car, that you got there.
@AKK5I
4 ай бұрын
Awesome kombi
@Swaggon
4 ай бұрын
Ooooh talked with Misha, he said if he has time when I'm there in April he might take it for a rip 👀
This makes my heart bleed... I owned a manual E86 3.0si for 8 years and 120.000 km from 2012 to 2020 and loved that car so much! At some point a 2-seater as an only car became no longer feasible ;)
Very nice 👍🏽
27 Degrees, 11/02/2024, Germany 🤣 can’t imagine how summer’s gonna be this year, cheers Mishaaa from Albania 🇦🇱
@MontagnaD
4 ай бұрын
the video was recorded later in 2023 I think
There is an "si" missing in the title, the coupé was never built with the older 3.0 engine since it came out after the facelift/LCI of the E85 Z4 Roadster.
the Z4 is my fav. car I love how it looks like, only thing I dont like is that you cant get it with a normal roof
Good video
I was just hoping that there was finally some alpina on the channel. but definitely a good video as well as the car. 😅
nice nice
Jo ice to see a Z4 in your channel, you make me miss my old Z4M Coupe 🥲
Can't wait to see you racing with cleetus!
I have the same car, manual too. I can’t belive that it can go so fast😳
The true ancestor of the A90 Supra
Misha how do the michelin ps4 or ps5 compare to the ps4s?
Awesome Car!
I have a z4m coupe Misha you are welcome to drive it any time but I live in Scotland One day I’ll bring it over to you. 🤞
could you do a normal daily pov driving. Just to see you drive in normal traffic? You could do some Q & A with a passenger. thx
M E86 3,2l? And alpine E86 3,4l?
Вижу Z4 - ставлю лайк, сразу же! 🧐
N52 content always welcome
3:50 Mk1 Focus ST170 🤍🤍🤍😍😍😍
I have a stupid question, isn’t it bad when the tire scrapes that much??
I have always loved Z4's amazing lap thank you Misha!!! I hope your taking flying lessons because we all know your going to win the freedom 500 (as long as you get a good car) 😂😂🏁🏁
@AI-Records24
4 ай бұрын
Not sure about that😅
@StillShatter
4 ай бұрын
@@AI-Records24 One can hope! 😆 plus then Misha can just fly to the ring when someone has a car for him to drive he will never have to worry about the track closing anymore 🤣🤣 jk
@AI-Records24
4 ай бұрын
@@StillShatteris it really happening I don’t have other socials so I’ve only seen it on here?
Классная машинка!
Should drive the currently DAG owned z4 build 🎉🎉
Lets goo
Welche Lippe hast du vorne dran?
Waiting for a Z4M!!!
E86's have great body lines. I may be biased, though, as I year-round daily drive one.
@austinnafziger4159
4 ай бұрын
Same! My only car. Suprisingly practical with the size of the boot.
@that44rdv4rk
4 ай бұрын
@@austinnafziger4159 fact. It's practically a "sensible hatchback" but it's still super fun on the back roads, and pretty.
@tocsa120ls
4 ай бұрын
@@austinnafziger4159 can't deny it was designed in Bavaria, the boot fits 4 cases of beer *perfectly*
@that44rdv4rk
4 ай бұрын
@@tocsa120ls but you can tell it was made in South Carolina, because it can carry 400lbs of chicken feed, lol.
I think this Z4 coupe with the N52 is a better car than the Z4M coupe.
@W33dinator
4 ай бұрын
I have an E86 mit N52 and I think not 😅
@lancemannion4113
Ай бұрын
As a daily, absolutely. But on any track, the M is the M for a reason. Beasts right out of the box
Z4's are kind of a pain to drive with super firm suspension, and less than ideal driving position. I'm glad it held up so good on the track. I have an 06 3.0si alpine white with 80K miles. I used to drive it in college and it's been maybe 5 years since I've used it. I gotta get that thing back up and going again
@Donax695
4 ай бұрын
I got 06 3.0si alpine white roadster with similar miles, already waiting for some better weather so I can have some more fun, 5 years is a long time.
@kristopherbell7158
4 ай бұрын
You are not alone , sadly mine sits five months a year and I barely get to drive it. I keep promising myself to get it out
Very nice wheels 🛞 😎
What size are the wheels
Nice car
That car makes a nice noise :)
Ask Mate Rimac for a drive in his BMW Z4 M Coupe, and I can give you my Z4 3.0 Roadster 😁
Time for some "Mo pawah,baby"
was that mr oizo? :D
😢 No rear cam so cannot view Porsche tailing😢
i love see Flat Eric ❤🤣❤
Shirt game on point 💀
Proud owner 😎
Mr Oizo aka Flat Eric in the passenger seat 😂
Misha, I think in such videos, it's better to display the tachometer instead of the speedometer. Speed can be shown, for example, through GPS. It's just that the sensations of seeing how the engine operates at high revs convey adrenaline more strongly)))
This'll probably will hurt the purists but would love to see some z4 from this gen swap with an m67 340hp diesel v8 with straight pipes and a zf8 gearbox 🤤
@sniperBOBAH
4 ай бұрын
😱 the whole spirit of the car is a light roadster with NA engine and MT…
@joerogan in the mix :)))
Миша крут. Бмв ванлав💪🏻
Here's a parrot eating spaghetti: 🍝 🦜
You seen what Mabz at NVM got in store for you soon?
Bring the Z4 back to GT Bmw!
xb5 does not exist only the x3 and x7 got the alpina treatment
Ich dachte noch beim letzten Video, ich würde gerne mal ein alten Z4 sehen...😅
What breaks have you upgraded to?
@javiergalvez7808
4 ай бұрын
Performance
@tocsa120ls
4 ай бұрын
M135i Performance calipers + Z4M discs on the front, 5-Series discs with X3 calipers (essentially M3 just cheaper) in the back, Endless MA45B pads all around.
@banucotitu
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
Did it have an LSD? Not sure if it even needs one but interesting to know.
@tocsa120ls
4 ай бұрын
I have a Quaife ATB under it.
@markythegreat
4 ай бұрын
They honestly don't actually need LSDs
@big-R
4 ай бұрын
@@markythegreatShould we take your word for it or would you like to tell us about your experience :D
@markythegreat
4 ай бұрын
@@big-R so with decent tyres on it, it doesn't really have the power (and the N52 isn't really tuneable) to need an LSD for traction in any road or track day environment - they also have a staggered setup as stock anyway and an extremely stiff chassis so breaking the rear isn't actually how these cars are set up, yes they will oversteer like any car will but it's all perfectly controllable without the diff. Sure if you wanted to drift one you'd need an LSD - but I've never seen one built specifically for drifting - people just use e46's instead because they are cheaper, longer wheelbase and then just weld the diff up.
@markythegreat
4 ай бұрын
Obviously depends just how hard you are driving it, but if you are running semi slicks, with the pressures set right, and you're *still* wheel spinning at corner exit, sure, props to you for being that committed in (probably) the rain - but in my experience the cars just have way more grip than power.
Have fun doing your tire pressure with those wheels 🤔😂🤘👍🎥
@tocsa120ls
4 ай бұрын
the only reason to buy replicas :D :D :D it's not that bad though, we've been to many track days, the key is you don't stop driving so you only have to check it twice :D
Rear view cam > Foot cam