Pusher Install - 6.7L Dodge Cummins Heater Grid Delete
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The Pusher Heater Grid Delete replaces the restrictive factory heater grid with a fully CNC machined 6061-T6 aluminum plenum cover. Finished in bright silver or titanium anodize ensures this part will remain beautiful through years of use and abuse. This part supplies more air to all cylinders via a fully pocketed underside and a 120% larger inlet over stock. Included are OEM gaskets and hardware to make installing this piece easy.
This product was tested on a SuperFlow SF-750 flow bench and the results were independently verified by Central Florida Machine & Speed. The configuration testing was performed back to back, the base line being our intake manifold with the factory heater grid bolted to the outlet flange (result: 396 cfm); after that Central Florida Machine & Speed swapped out the factory heater grid with our Heater Grid Delete and tested at the same inlet pressure (result: 528 cfm).
FEATURES
By replacing your restrictive factory heater grid with a Pusher Heater Grid Delete, you can expect results of:
50-100 degree Fahrenheit drop in EGTs
0.25-0.5 MPG increase
Significant gain in throttle response
Faster turbo spool
This kit supplies everything you need to replace your restrictive heater grid. OEM gaskets and hardware included.
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Probably the best how to video I've ever seen good job guys
That's an awesome product no more restricted airflow
Thank you so much for this video, very informative. you have no idea how helpful this video has been
This is the most clean and best video I have seen on a 6.7 Cummins engine. Well spoken and explained, super clear shots, and thorough. I only wish you had a plethora of other more informational information videos on engine, exhaust, transmission, etc. Excellent video through. Thank you.
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls God Bless Y'alls 🙌 ❤ 🙏
Fantastic video! Thx! 👍
Great video! Thank you
Wish you guys hAd a exhaust manifold 2 piece for a 17, id get it to match all my other pusher parts
If I could make a suggestion, increase the length of the fuel rail standoffs by 0.050" and put counter bore holes on the cover where they belong at 0.050" deep. That would keep them in place while your fuel rail is installed.
Thank You! I have a 2015 2500 and will be seriously considering doing this preventative upgrade myself. I should have gone to Diesel mechanic school instead of Cosmetology, lmao
I am deleting the grid heater on my 6.7 Cummins and I have a dual horn intake just like what is installed on this truck. I must have an intake heater where I live. I have a BD Diesel intake heater, which is just a factory Duramax intake heater. Anybody know where to install the heater since there are two intake horns and only one heater? I was thinking about installing it before the horn splits, but that is awful far from the engine.
Is there anything you specifically need to do after putting the fuel rail and lines back? Do you need to crank the truck for a bit until the fuel rails fill, anything to try and prevent air in the lines, etc.?
Can you delete the solenoid for this aswell cause I know those things can cause a fire?
If I order this and install will I get CELS’s? I hear some people have trouble with those. They have to disconnect the wire coming off the grid to the battery and solenoid. Need info as I need to delete my grid heater asap
I am a believer in your products and will buy a setup soon. I was wondering between the 3.5 and the 3" intake for 99 ram cummins. Removed muffler and silencer ring, 75 injectors and fass lift pump. About to do cold air and one day buy the bd super bee turbo. I'm thinking the 3.5" would be bad for my setup because I wouldn't be pushing enough power. Is this correct or is bigger better?
@pusherintakes
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Robert - bigger is generally better. In your case especially - the 2nd gen Ram trucks OEM intercooler is already setup with 3.5" inlet/outlet so you can take full advantage of the 3.5" charge plumbing. Also if you're considering a charger upgrade and your factory unit is in good shape I would highly recommend considering our Low Mount Compound System which utilizes the factory charger. It's great for your fuel economy and if you tow at all it'll make a big difference. No single charger can touch the performance gains that two chargers working together can offer. Please let us know if you have any other questions - either here, via email (orders@pusherintakes.com) or call us at 772.589.8385. Thanks!
Will this work on a deleted 2021 6.7
Do you need any kinda of pipe dope or anything on the bolts holding the grid heater plate down to seal them? Are those bolt holes in the block all the way through?
@maxpain7197
7 ай бұрын
Pipe Dope 😂😂😂. You a oil field guy?
@jaredbrown66
7 ай бұрын
I have spent some time in the oilfields yes.. But thread sealant just doesn't have the same ring to it does it. Lol
I noticed you guys deleted the crankcase filter as well any error codes for doing the delete????
the grid heater just melted off and destroyed my engine and ram won't warranty it under power train since it was electrical
Looking for some insight I want to keep a grid heater I live in the north could I weld a bung on the intake horn and run a universal grid heater and ditch the stock one ?
@pusherintakes
Жыл бұрын
We offer the manifold with a removable heater coil - just a little behind in launching it publicly. You can give us a call to order today. 772-212-9290
is there a reason you left the foam out?
Will a mini maxx tuner keep this from throwing a code to keep light off?
@pusherintakes
3 жыл бұрын
Most likely, you may have to custom tune the light off with your Mini Maxx
Do y’all have one for a 2021
How would this delet affect me in ks Winters?
so how do you start it on cold mornings
if you delete the heater grid, will the check engine come on?
I have a 2015 6.7 Cummins. Why would you want to pull the grid heater? What does that do for the truck? Don’t you want that during your cold weather ops?
@danthisguy8541
3 жыл бұрын
Find your answer yet? Grid heater can ark when not grounded properly and drops a bolt into the intake so your engine chomps it. It also uses alot of amperage to run it. But yes a grid heater is a really good thing in the cold. I know some guys just run a air dog with fuel heater and it's a better combo then an intake heater. Plus air flow is greatly increased with the delete that's the main reason
@picturetaker3997
Жыл бұрын
@@danthisguy8541 as
Do you have to delete anything else for this mod? I want to do this on a bone stock truck
What lift is that
good thx but how to get rid of dtc code? Battary sensor will ask for 200 amp anyways during the cold start/.....
@pusherintakes
3 жыл бұрын
For a key start truck, just start prior to the 'wait to start' light to go out. For push to start / remote start trucks, this code would need to be programmed out.
Is there enough room to put studs in three or four of the holes to keep the gasket from moving around? Just curious.
@pusherintakes
10 ай бұрын
Yes, check out 8:44 - you'll be able to put a few in and it'll secure the gasket.
How do you get the codes from coming up for the check engine light
@darryladams519
2 жыл бұрын
I disconnected the grid heater power wire from the relay just below the right/ passenger side battery. No light, I just crank it up instead of waiting. On the few cold days that do hit my area I just plug it up.
This looks like a great kid to prevent engine damage, but how does your kit prevent codes from the heater grid not coming on?
@maxpain7197
7 ай бұрын
You just can't let the wait to start light to go off. There is nothing to warm up, just put key in and crank it.
Hold up… Mine didn’t have those fuel rail standoffs when I took it off
How do you prime the fuel back? Just turning the key to the on position in like 10 second intervals?
@ThePaisakiller69
4 жыл бұрын
Homer Garcia on my 2010 you just turn the ignition on, let the fuel pump work, turn ignition off, then repeat that 3 or 4 times then crank it up. While u have the ignition on, look for leaks, also when the engines comes on.
@matthewg1887
2 жыл бұрын
I cracked open the fuel line going to fuel injector tube on cylinder 1 and 3 had someone turn the truck over till fuel came out then reconnected and started after the 2nd crank. I didn’t crank it more than 15 seconds during this process I don’t know if that matters but it’s just what I’ve always done.
Do you get any error codes doing the delete??
Do you release the pressure on the injectors ? Or you dont ? If you do how ? Thanks
@pusherintakes
Жыл бұрын
There is no pressure in the system when the engine is turned off, so no action item there 😎
Does it throw a code in the winter when it doesn't sense resistance from the grid
@randlecookson4618
Жыл бұрын
Mine caused a code to come up for heater grid. How do I cheat the computer to thinking its still there?
Very nice video and product. What should a customer expect as far as actual performance and mileage increase?
@pusherintakes
4 жыл бұрын
You should see an increase in throttle response and MPG's by .5-1 as well as a drop in EGT's by 50-100F - even better results when combined with an intake manifold. Scroll down and check out reviews here to 'hear' it for yourself - www.pusherintakes.com/Pusher-Heater-Grid-Delete-Cummins-p/pdc0718hgd.htm
Hi, is this grid heater set up the same on a 2019 6.7 HO?
@Over_the_Hill_RV_Rookies
Жыл бұрын
This is a great video. I really enjoyed watching it although I’d most likely hire it done. I believe in using well trained professionals who have had years of experience. Keep up the good work.
How does this compete with the monster ram from banks?
@BryceJohnson323
7 ай бұрын
It definitely doesn't. No way these guys have enough research and experience to beat Gale Banks
No torque specs or what you used to torque the injector lines back down?
@pusherintakes
10 ай бұрын
18 ft/lb on the torque - but you'll want to pay attention to how tight they are when you take them off and try and replicate that. It's very difficult to get a torque wrench to the majority of the lines.
What are the torque specs for the plate bolts
@pusherintakes
3 жыл бұрын
18 ft-lb
does this require a tuner or a delete in the tuner
@cryptobuddha2600
5 ай бұрын
no
Did this and I am having hell getting the fuel lines to not leak, do i just need to keep loosening and tightening till it seats correctly?
@pusherintakes
4 жыл бұрын
They do need to be tight - torque specs are the 22 ft-lb at the feed tube and 27 ft-lb at the rail. Give that a try; if you're still having issues give us a call after at 772.589.8385.
How do you change the crank case filter on a2016 ram
@maxpain7197
7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
what should I do with the wire that goes to the heater grid it self ??
@pusherintakes
3 жыл бұрын
We generally remove it from the loom entirely. However, if the customer thinks they might reinstall the heater grid at some point we just remove it from the power solenoid (but this is generally only on the 5.9L trucks).
@PotageRacing
3 жыл бұрын
@@pusherintakes thanks again for ur help
@jumpinglenin
3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the wire removal as well.
Does it throw a cel when the ecm doesn’t sense the heater in cold weather
@pusherintakes
Жыл бұрын
Yes, if you have no form of heater the ECM will turn on your CEL until it's warm enough outside to not need the heater.
As a man from the upper Midwest. wtf? Lol. Didn't know this was actually a thing
Do you have to install a tune for this or it would work for oem truck?
@pusherintakes
4 жыл бұрын
This product can be installed without tuning. Although if it's cold enough and your ECM commands the heater grid power circuit and doesn't see a voltage drop from that circuit it will throw a "soft" CEL. That CEL will go way after a few key cycles.
@125AXer
4 жыл бұрын
@@pusherintakes Yea, I'm in Michigan. the work truck stays inside overnight almost always, but on trips it stays out overnight. Getting a code for a high read on the heater now, something is up.
@pusherintakes
4 жыл бұрын
@@125AXer If you're getting a code for high voltage that usually means the heater is not actually turning on (pulling current and reducing voltage in that circuit). Also we've heard from a few northern Canadian customers who've had the heater bolt back out and fall into the plenum. I'd check into that as well.
@pusherintakes
4 жыл бұрын
@@125AXer If you're getting a code for high voltage that usually means the heater is not actually turning on (pulling current and reducing voltage in that circuit). Also we've heard from a few northern Canadian customers who've had the heater bolt back out and fall into the plenum. I'd check into that as well.
@125AXer
4 жыл бұрын
@@pusherintakes First time I got to the shop, I got a footstool and climbed up to perform the "jiggle test" on the connector bolt to the intake heater. Tight, no play at all. A local shop which my boss likes to use has recommended replacing the intake/heater unit to solve the problem, but I am not convinced that will take care of it, or that it is the best solution.
Did the check engine light come on after that delete?
@Hazie345
3 жыл бұрын
Never Mind I just read the specks on your page 👍🏼
@pusherintakes
3 жыл бұрын
@@Hazie345 Good deal - For anyone else wondering, the CEL will only turn on if your ECM commands the heater circuit to activate (due to low ambient temp), but then doesn't see the voltage drop that the heater would normally cause when activated. In warm climates or warmer months, the CEL will not come on. If you have custom tuning, that feature can be turned off so it's never an issue.
@Hazie345
3 жыл бұрын
Pusher Intakes thank you
What size socket is the air intake sensor?
@pusherintakes
10 ай бұрын
1"
I just think is a different engine at the end of the video 😂 but great information
@pusherintakes
Жыл бұрын
Same truck, as mentioned at the end we paired this install with several more upgrades which weren't featured in the video. Our full Mega Intake System + our High Mount Compound Turbo System. Effectively left the shop feeling like an all new truck 😎
do you guys offer this setup for the 5th gen?
@pusherintakes
10 ай бұрын
Yes, check it out here: pusherintakes.com/pusher-heater-grid-replacement-for-2007-5-2022-dodge-cummins-2500-3500/
Dang y’all did a lot more than a grid heater delete lol 2nd gen turbo swap and ccv breather
Does it increase fuel mileage. Where are you located.
@pusherintakes
Жыл бұрын
You can expect a 50-100 degree F drop in EGTs and about a .25-.5 mpg increase in fuel economy. You'll also see a significant gain in throttle response and faster turbo spool. All happy things. 😎 We're in Vero Beach, Florida.
You forgot to mention the heater nut how it falls off on the factory grid design.
@Mvp-AngelOfGod
Жыл бұрын
I hope ram gets sued
I want to see a install of 1998.5-2002 3.5” mega intake system with the Cross-Air system
@pusherintakes
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that video isn't in the works yet, but its on the (very long!) list to get done. In the meantime if you'd like to see instructions for the install, email us at orders@pusherintakes.com and we'll send you a PDF copy.
@scottrupley7845
3 жыл бұрын
I will email you for the instructions. Thank you.
Will this create a trouble code?
@pusherintakes
10 ай бұрын
If the temperature is low enough to command the heater grid, yes, it will, unless tuned otherwise.
What do u do about the grid heater relay and the code that it throws?
@871jamie
2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a tip, turn key on straight to the start position immediately and it won’t set the code. Although I don’t recommend removing the heater to begin with.
@robbennett7593
2 жыл бұрын
@@871jamie what about adding a BD-Power X-Flow Air Intake Heater Kit For 2007.5-2018 Ram 2500/3500 6.7L Cummins to the air horn? Or two should it be a lot less restricting?
@871jamie
2 жыл бұрын
@@robbennett7593 honestly I’m not sure.
@zechariah1398
2 жыл бұрын
I see the comment about turning the key on straight to the start position which does work but trucks like mine that have remote start will through a code and shut the truck down when the temp is below 45...how can this be remedied?
@darryladams519
2 жыл бұрын
I disconnected the grid heater power wire from the relay just below the right/passenger side battery. I get in and crank it up and haven't had a code. On the few days of cold I do get, I just plug in.
Does this fit the chassis cab models?
@pusherintakes
3 жыл бұрын
No, because the chassis cab MAP sensor is located on the heater grid itself. To get around that you could buy one of our manifolds for your chassis cab model and relocate that sensor onto it, and then you'd be free to run the heater grid delete. If you want to talk details about how that'd work, give us a ring at 772.589.8385 (or we are happy to reply here)
You did not show how to take off rear lines or RAIL
@pusherintakes
3 жыл бұрын
Start at cylinder 1, work your way back to cylinder 6, just un-bolting as you go. Reverse on the way back. These video guides are just supplemental to our full written instructions. Thanks!
Air intake temperature sensor is not like that on my truck.. it's off to the side do ypu have a adapter
@pusherintakes
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a Cab and Chassis truck? They're different than the "normal" 2500/3500 trucks. You can give us a call for faster tech support - 772.212.9290
About how long did this take to install?
@pusherintakes
Жыл бұрын
About 2-4 hours, depending on your experience level.
@Sdukes001
Жыл бұрын
@@pusherintakes awesome thanks
I was going to ask about the different bolt lengths required with your piece, until I saw the "stand-offs" being added for the fuel rail. It would be nice if they came attached to the plate, and I'd be tempted to get them to stay in place with a little JB Weld prior to assembly. Looks great, I may be in line to put this setup on a work truck.
@pusherintakes
4 жыл бұрын
The stand-offs are separate to keep the cost lower; to have them machined to the plate would greatly drive up the length of time it would take to machine the product (and therefore would drive the cost up significantly as well). That being said we wouldn't choose cost saving routes like that if they were problematic. We've never had an issue with them being separate during install, nor have we afterward for product durability. It'll be an awesome setup for your work truck. 👍
@briangc1972
3 жыл бұрын
Your idea to use a dab of JB Weld or any superglue product is a good one. Also, a dab on the bottom side to hold the gasket in place is an old mechanic's trick. (instead of placing the gasket on the block and letting it slide around)
@slickrickjones
Жыл бұрын
Finally, people who sale something and show you in detail how to put it on!
Is there any mpg improvement ?
@maxpain7197
7 ай бұрын
Negative ghost rider.
I had that bolt come off went into #6 cylinder took out the piston and the cylinder bad design from dodge its happening on alot of trucks sucks
@pusherintakes
Жыл бұрын
That's the worst
So what replaces the cold start heat grid component ? If you delete the heat grid, how does the cold start system work ?
@1012Mrjesse
8 ай бұрын
It doesn’t lol. If you need a heater still, I think the banks setup includes it, but it’s basically the same setup as a later model 7.3 powerstroke intake heater. I’ve seen the ones from banks and they look exactly like the one I took off my buddy’s 7.3 to install a boost gauge in it’s place. The one that looks like a little coil. You can probably go get one at an autozone or something and drill and tap your intake to install it, might need to do some wiring changes to make it work too.
Doesn’t that make the diesel harder to start especially in Canada
@pusherintakes
Жыл бұрын
Hi Emil, yes, this is best for warm climate customers. However, we offer our intake manifold for the 6.7L Cummins with removable Heater Coils to replace the heater grid functionality, so you can get the airflow gains from the plate but retain the heater functionality during the cold months. If that's something you're interested in just give us a call! 772.212.9290
does this mod void the oem warranty?
@pusherintakes
Жыл бұрын
This is an off-road use product; you'll need to read your warranty manual for exact clarification but in most cases, off-road race components are not covered under the vehicle warranty.
wish they didn’t skip any and recorded all the way through
This is useless until you come up with a plan for the grid heater circuit. Uhhhh yah its gonna set a CEL. Unless you live in Florida
@KDlGG
Жыл бұрын
Do you see that this truck was deleted? Yeah, it won’t throw a check engine light in their case
This truck looks like a 2013... Y-hose is a clue
Being I have a background in the auto industry….. if you’re going to modify your truck at all, keep the parts so you can put them back on if you ever decide to trade the vehicle. Otherwise you’ll lose thousands in trade in value. I usually don’t keep a vehicle long enough to justify the cost of mods so for the most part I leave them stock. Except for sports cars and motorcycles. J/s
Cummins put that heater there for a reason. Cummins does not have glow plugs it uses the heater grid to start the truck. Last winter in Texas my truck would not have started in the extremely low temps we had without it!
@matone184
2 жыл бұрын
Money starts every time I live in Ohio ,colder than you
@jshlds46
Жыл бұрын
Not sure it is that necessary, my 2011 3500 heater grid is no longer wired and started just fine during the ice storm in TX.
@871jamie
Жыл бұрын
@@matone184 we had sub zero temps during the time I was refuting to.
@871jamie
Жыл бұрын
@@jshlds46 mine didn’t want to start during the ice storm. It took it a while. J/s
@871jamie
Жыл бұрын
I’ll give everyone this advice, if you are going to do any deletes or mods, keep all the parts of you think you’ll ever trade the truck. Otherwise you’ll lose thousands on the trade in. I don’t keep mine long enough to worry about mods usually.
Remove the whole fuel rail and injector lines… thanks but no thanks.