The Iron Cross looks so handsome on the turret side...! It's a touch of class and distinction.

This thing has an 11.1L 1100hp V10 revving to 4300 RPM. 100 HP/L in a military vehicle. Leave it to the Germans to make a hot rod IFV.

@jonny2954

Жыл бұрын

Rides like one too. They always have puke bags on board, no joke.

@tux8229

Жыл бұрын

@@jonny2954 Nein haben wir nicht. 🙂

@jonny2954

Жыл бұрын

@@tux8229 Doch. Nach Herstellerpackplan in der Tuchtasche unterm ZBG. Über den Dienstweg anforderbar. Packplan in der Einheit kann abweichen. Ist aber eher für Bildschirmverursachte motion-sickness bei Kommandant und Richtschützen als für den hinteren Kampfraum.

@somebodyelse3004

Ай бұрын

Freedom of speed is very important in Germany

@hotdog9262

8 күн бұрын

well. seems impressive but HP/L doesn`t matter

4:59 German Panzergrenadier dismounted element size is 6, not 8.

@derfor2169

Жыл бұрын

Ich glaube das bezieht sich auf den Raum der von den Panzerfäusten und dem Fach für ABC Masken eingenommen wird. Bzw bei der Chef Version wo die Funkanlage sitzt. Da könntest du noch 2 typen sitzen lassen

@jonny2954

Жыл бұрын

@@derfor2169 Theoretisch. Bei allen Versionen ist da das Funkgerät.

@Schuubi1896

Жыл бұрын

@@jonny2954 Bei der BW ja. Es gibt aber noch viele andere Kunden für das Ding, die durchaus 8 Mann statt Funkgerät einladen wollen ;)

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Ай бұрын

@@Schuubi1896 gibt es nicht. Es gibt keine Puma Exportkunden.

Wow....I'm stunned ! Wish I could take one home.

@potkinazarmehr

Жыл бұрын

Sure if you want something that is certain to breakdown!

@YouD0ntSay

Жыл бұрын

Be a good boy, and Santa may bring one to you.

@YouD0ntSay

Жыл бұрын

​@@potkinazarmehr oh look, a Troll

Awesome video. Very informative and well thought out.

Must have a hell of a strong drive train!

the gun looks a lot like the Rheinmetall GDM-008 Millennium Gun in appearance, although this one uses 30mm instead of 35mm

@emilsinclair4190

Жыл бұрын

It is a Mk 30 2

2:10 the Lynx has been officially ordered by Hungary and are set to arrive in Hungary starting 2023.

@Thor_Asgard_

Жыл бұрын

its a good choice to get weapons made all in 1 house. Lynx is also a great platform.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

3 ай бұрын

the thing is, that Lynx seems to have major reliability issues etc. And its protection is very likely not better than Puma

Probably the best in the world!

5.55mm for a co-ax MG is below the NATO 7.62mm standard as well

@mbtenjoyer9487

4 ай бұрын

They’re switching to MG5 7.62

3:28 "that trough the simple disassembly of the flank protection modules on the Puma, the weight of the military Airbus A400M is reduced to 31,5 tons" I'm sorry, WHAT?

@Kurikost_

Жыл бұрын

the weight of the Puma is reduce to ...

@AB-nm7vy

Жыл бұрын

Probably meant for transportation of this vehicle through A400

@pedrolistacarey4880

Жыл бұрын

@@AB-nm7vy - Right.

Hungary has ordered the Lynx Kf41 with local production and R&D. Some 218~ pieces of it. Also ordered Spike missiles and SHORAD turret (Skyranger 30)for the platform that will have mistral 3 integrated.

@heinzkabofke6791

Жыл бұрын

What R&D? This thing has already been developed as a budget version of the Puma.

@ServusIchBins

Жыл бұрын

@@heinzkabofke6791 Not Budget. The Lynx is practically completely designed by Rheinmetall with their weapons systems and subsystems. The Puma is the effort of the whole German defense industry to build an IFV. It’s systems come from individual companies and not solely from Rheinmetall.

@heinzkabofke6791

Жыл бұрын

@@ServusIchBins Puma has the unmanned KMW turret and the sensor package that come with the unmanned fester. The Lynx has the manned and proven lance turret. Which is way cheaper. The chassis is from Rheinmetall. Hence: the budget version of the puma.

@lilpold9192

Жыл бұрын

@@heinzkabofke6791 the turret can be chosen by the customer so it’s not mandatory to have a Lance gurret

@heinzkabofke6791

Жыл бұрын

@@lilpold9192 But it’s definitely not the kmw turret, that can be chosen. Same goes for the sensor suite

Is the weight of an airplane reduced by removing armour off of the vehicle discussed in this video?

@schnelma605

Жыл бұрын

Top secret technique, but officially the Puma's weight is reduced by removing armor

Man WarThunder really did the PUMA dirty.

@skwon6731

Жыл бұрын

It has over a winrate over 60% 💀 it's far from bad

@peterz395

Жыл бұрын

It really should get the spike missile launcher.

They stated 5 dual road wheels on each side but highlighted 6. Puma is definitely one of the best out there.

Good

5 mths ago this video tell us how great puma ifv is, but today news report hundreds of puma ifv breakdown.

@jonny2954

Жыл бұрын

Hundreds? 18 Pumas broke down. After several weeks of no maintenance.

@JD-uk3vc

Жыл бұрын

@@jonny2954 Rofl...18 of 18, thats a 0% success rate :D

@jonny2954

Жыл бұрын

@@JD-uk3vc Nop.e Turned out only 1 of the 18 vehicles actually had faults.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

3 ай бұрын

the problem is not on the vehicle side, but on the side of the Bundeswehr, wich scrapped its logistics and maintenance branch in 2011. due to that, many systems could not be maintained in the Bundeswehr and required external providers. this is slowly returning to normal operation (with in house maintenance etc), but still the Bundeswehr has some major maintenance problems remaining. The Puma in question were for weeks in combat excercises prior to the break downs and had only troop level field maintenance done. considering that, tthey held up quite well.

5:50 you can clearly see the 6 not 5 wheels

And now its among the best IFV's in War Thunder.

@justzzzx623

Жыл бұрын

its not

@niko7626

Жыл бұрын

not after its constant nerfs

@remus907

Жыл бұрын

@@niko7626 3 month old comment. Its still a champ and i do as good in it at its br as i do at top tier. Just play it correctly and you get free kills.

@niko7626

Жыл бұрын

@@remus907 fair, but you can take way less punishment in 9.3 than in 8.3 ^^

@jfd9616

10 ай бұрын

2s38 is better.

lol, i heard there is a puma out there that lasted 4hrs with out breaking down

How is that Vehicle capable to fight the greenhouse effect ?

The lynx I believe is going to be the new bradly

Polski Borsuk jest lepszy pod każdym względem.

Great interesting video! I wouldn't say the headline is accurate though. *CV90* by BAE Systems Hägglunds is by many *considered top of the class.*

@geldoncupi1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah top of the class of year 1960.. Many are not considering cv90 even to fill the numbers of competitors…

@ph6560

Жыл бұрын

@@geldoncupi1 Thank God you're able to write coherent sentences that make sense.

@jonny2954

Жыл бұрын

The German Army actually tested the CV90 in 2002. It was rejected because the ballistic and mine protection aswell as the growth capability did not meet their requirements. Only after that they started development on the Puma.

@fuzer4047

Жыл бұрын

@@jonny2954 Cv90 mk Iv has many improvements

@jonny2954

Жыл бұрын

@@fuzer4047 But these improvements still lie within the growth capability limits of the baseline CV90 hull which were deemed insufficent by the German Army.

Next, Adiddas and FILA APV!

Puma to szajs, po ćwiczeniach na poligonie 18 pum,sprawnych po zakończeniu 0!!! poinformował jakiś niemiecki oficer,ale jaja ale szajs!

Amazing work initiatives coverage Jay hind sir . Bandemataram . Saath ek lakshya bhed...

The ammo is non-toxic.

06:49 HELLO GAIJIN WHERE ARE THIS ON MY PUMMAA? 😃

@lordoflethargy2448

5 күн бұрын

I assume that's MELLS, and probably not on your Puma cause it will malfunction anyway most of the time like everything else.

Просто красуня! Не вистачає ПТРК і ПЗРК по 4 з кожного боку.

Now if only the USA could make an APC that's updated like this! Oh we tried but the government always builds prototypes and scraps them....

@patrickbyrne7599

Жыл бұрын

Well, Germany is purchasing US high-tech equipment. So the Us can also purchase the Puma :-) It would be a smart move by the US to motivate Germany to do more for its military capacity..

@henri6595

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickbyrne7599 The PUMA would be great for the USA but it would never happen. We will just build more test models that work perfectly fine but cancel each and every one of them. It's the American way 🤣🤣🤣

@eagelseye8089

Жыл бұрын

@@henri6595 USA Army maybe buy the Lynx. It is also from Rheinmetall and the cheaper version of the Puma. (It has a maned turret and less armor)

@pedrolistacarey4880

Жыл бұрын

@@eagelseye8089 - It's a second class, downgraded IFV....why not aim for the very best ?

@jonny2954

Жыл бұрын

@@henri6595 The US DoD actually wanted the buy the Puma in 2013. There still is a document by the CBO floating around on the web where it is compared to alternatives such as upgrading the Bradley. In the end it was the most effective, but also most cost effective solution, being 103% more lethal and 22% more mobile than the Bradley. They also stated that US forces equipped with the Puma would sustain 28% fewer losses of occupants and vehicles in combat as compared to the Bradley. Then the US demanded disclosure of IP of the mine protection armor on the Puma, because they couldn't believe how effective it was. PSM (KMW/Rheinmetall) said fuck you and cancelled the whole thing.

Yes but your 70's guns are still ahead of Europes.. The problem with the Jerry's is perfection. Good job really, otherwise we English would have been speaking German after w.w2..

Should be able to take a anti tank missiles and still function

Hope that they aren't overly engineered like their equipment was in ww2 causing breakdowns and maintenance nightmares.

@pedrolistacarey4880

Жыл бұрын

Those mechanical troubles they met during WW2 were due exclusively to the almost impossible manufacturing conditions, subjected day and night to massive air raids and to poorly skilled labor, as all men fit for combat were drafted and replaced by women, old men and foreign workers. By contrast, just see today's German top notch industrial quality working in peacetime with their excellent and skilled labor.

Should be able to take a anti tank mine and still function

“NBC” is now called CBRN (Chemical Biological Radiological Nuclear)…

@death_parade

Жыл бұрын

Funny I thought it was the other way around.

No the Swedish CV90 Mk.IV is !!!

I tedeschi hanno sempre fatto mezzi militari eccellenti dalla seconda guerra mondiale fino ad oggi .

I would use depleted uranium rounds

These guys definitely watch DollarPlays

Germany makes the best military equipment in the world but their politics and bureaucracy neuters the German military

@ombresub7656

Жыл бұрын

best military equipement? naz... i mean german propaganda as never stop since ww2

@Kackbratze99

Жыл бұрын

@@ombresub7656 sry Bro but there are no better Tank builder und the world and this is no Propaganda this is what the Other Nations say 🤷‍♂️

@BewareOfTheKraut

Жыл бұрын

@@ombresub7656 So who is better and why?

@Klaus.Kinski

Жыл бұрын

@@ombresub7656 🤡

@ombresub7656

Жыл бұрын

​@@BewareOfTheKraut no one is better in everything, and in matter of military equipement its the same, all country had his strengh and weakness.

4:15 maybe they shouldn't use that labeling visual for a German vehicle

holy crap this thing can crush a tank armor?

@elijahmckenzie9207

Жыл бұрын

Easily crush most of Russias tanks armour. T-72’s and T80’s won’t stand a chance

Germany 🇩🇪 another Planet

the lynx should be less armored than the puma.

@nagmashot

Жыл бұрын

KF41 and T15 are both less armored than Puma... only the israel Namer is more heavy armored based on the Merkava Mk IV... but Namer is more a APC than a IFV because it lacks the firepower of a IFV

@emilsinclair4190

Жыл бұрын

@@nagmashot not certain about the t 15 but I have to slightly doubt your claimed about the narmer. There is a theoretical version of the puma that would be able to carry as many people as the narmer. This would mean more protection for the crew. However since the narmer is based on an mbt its front protection might still be better.

I would add a twin 30 mm cannon

@emilsinclair4190

Жыл бұрын

Why

Germany….they still make good AFV

Pannenpanzer Puma

Wolfenstien 2050 will be interesting

45mm would be amazing with 60mm auto grenade launcher and quad anti tank rockets

@anslogarrick7638

Жыл бұрын

And a 50 Cal with 400 rounds of ammunition 45 mm auto canon would have about 80 to 90 bullets the 60 mm Automatic grenade launcher would have about 150 to 200 grenades

🦁🖤❤💛🦁

nice rig repalce 556 with 308 or 7.62 but thas jus me

@mbtenjoyer9487

4 ай бұрын

I think they’re switching to MG5 7.62

Aren't the bullets too small and have no explosive ability ?

@randyraudi7725

Жыл бұрын

Too small for what ? It can penetrate every enemy it is supposed to penetrate, if you encounter a real well armored enemy you can still use the rockets, and don't forget, that it has airburst ammunition aswell. The main purpose is still to keep the crew alive and to support the troops.

I think it should also have had some sort of anti tank missile

@XeroOps

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it can get spike missiles

@emilsinclair4190

Жыл бұрын

it has 2 spikes

@death_parade

Жыл бұрын

@@emilsinclair4190 Exactly which Spikes? There is everything from SR to NLOS.

@emilsinclair4190

Жыл бұрын

@@death_parade as far as I know the short rage version but if I remember right there are planns to give it the long range version in the future.

@IdeYuji

Жыл бұрын

@@emilsinclair4190 Spike LR

سؤال من الافضل بينهم بيركدار او هذه الدبابه? Ihave qeistiun : How are the best betoween bayrkttar turck and this vehcul sestem?....

@morocgamez1582

Жыл бұрын

خوي تراك إغتصبت الإنجليزية

@morocgamez1582

Жыл бұрын

ودي مو دباب دي ناقلة جنود

@baumwasser570

Жыл бұрын

Your thing is turkish and gay

@wolflarsen1900

Жыл бұрын

first improve your english, than talk about bayraktar drones. and that means, dont talk. (by the way, if i even understand that correctly, you compare a drone with a infantry fithing vehicle because turkey doenst have a single other good millitary product and needs to press the west to let them buy our millitary products, thats really dumb and really sad..). You idiotic guys can blackmail the nato as long as sweden and finland arent in the nato, but i promise you, directly after they are in, we will sanction turkey again and than turkey has nothing left to blackmail the nato. And from germany here you never will get an update for your outdated leopards a4 which we sold you. Germany cant be pressed and the great kurdish fighters still will crush this outdated versions with anti tank missles. i am so happy we didnt let turkey in the eu. oh god its bad to have them in nato but if we would have that dictatorship in the european union it would be a nightmare. frightening to think about that we actually talked about bringing turkey in the eu, it was a shame from the beginning

@wolflarsen1900

Жыл бұрын

shame on you that you dared to use our tanks against kurdish people. this tanks are made to fight AGAINST not FOR a dictatorship, you abused our millitary equiptment for the pure evil and we never will forgive you for that

German engineering !

Only one problem..THEY CONSTANTLY BREAK DOWN..and it's still not solved. Give me a CV 90 instead..

Well judging by the expose today, they are said to be "Alle ausgefallen"! Being unreliable and breaking down was not something usually associated with German make!

@tomjohnston3393

Жыл бұрын

So you've never owed a German car?

@potkinazarmehr

Жыл бұрын

@@tomjohnston3393 I usually used to drive Mercs & they were very reliable

@ettit6283

Жыл бұрын

@@potkinazarmehr Well, they WERE, but ARE NOT any longer.

advanced IFV. 9.3 at wrthunder "balanced"

Ahh yes, reminds me of war thunder moments

I see what he did there 4:13

If you ask me it still under the performance of Kurganets and T 15 Armata but its clearly better than Lnyx, Bradley and Terminator

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

both T-15 Armata and Kurganets have not left prototype stage and will very likely never enter production or service, so they are in the end irrelevant

This vehicle didn't pass it's Certifications with the Bundesheer...Facts

@jonny2954

5 ай бұрын

It passed after failing once. It also passed NATO qualification and is currently part of VJTF.

Vs Terminator?🥴

17 million dollars for 1 Puma is way to much for any normal warfare.

@mausilugner6637

Жыл бұрын

no one has to pay for this ... the Puma is a technology carrier and therefore excluded from exports

This video didn't hold up well.

didnt the US Army looking into buying these?

@heinzkabofke6791

Жыл бұрын

the lynx version, I think. Pumas are not for sale, atm.

@SuperGeronimo999

Жыл бұрын

Yes, however they had concerns about the vehicle's force protection features, primarily the proposed active protection system and underbody armor, and 20 significant weaknesses which had potential solutions offered that were judged as inadequate. They didn't find any vehicle matching their requirements, so they rebooted the competition. Their new IFV has to be capable to operate optionally unmanned. Contenders are the Griffin III, Lynx OMFV, a version of the AS-21 Redback, Liberty IFV and another unnamed one from BAE Systems.

Looks pretty good works pretty shitty.

By god, i would really like to see one of these getting destroyed.

Sent it to Ukraine to test it..

@heinzkabofke6791

Жыл бұрын

Not in a mill... not in 10 years. If we do, we first had Ukrainian knuckleheads filming them selfes showing off our high tech... and then eventiually even have the Rusky capture one. And they would marvel at the tech unable to grasp or copy it... but still.

Ukraine should buy this asap

@AnCapKadse

Жыл бұрын

it’s not for export

I know that is a massive nitpick, but can you try to make graphics like this not make it look like you are drawing a swastika 4:11 at least not when talking about German stuff.

@thomasmuller9928

Жыл бұрын

Lol

(was it Harvey TwoFace of Batman; Army Navy) blind stupid simple doodah Luck...

Should be able to take out Russia and china main battle tanks

😭😭😭😭

seems really good.. Curious to see how easy it is to maintain. The krauts tend to make things more complicated than they ought to be.

@emilsinclair4190

Жыл бұрын

Maintenance seems to be easier than with the cv 90

@jansix4287

Жыл бұрын

If your life depends on it, you want it complicated, because Russians are bad at complex technologies.

@BewareOfTheKraut

Жыл бұрын

You confuse complicated with sophisticated.

@k.k.8394

Жыл бұрын

'Krauts'? FU

@pedrolistacarey4880

Жыл бұрын

Everything they make is state-of-the-art....a gem.

Remind me how many of the 18 pumas deplayed in the last german military exercise broke down. Answer: 18 broke down. The puma is far from being the most advanced fighting vehicle of modern time. By the way after working for 15 years with different german companies I can see how steadily the german quality goes down.

Puma just made news for breaking down on action.

The biggest mistake that Russia made invading Ukraine is waking up Germany 🇩🇪. The pioneers of art of war and ingenuity and before you say they were defeated by Russia 🇷🇺 in world war 2, that is not true Nazi were defeated by an alliance

This is my best light tank in playing video game. However, Stingers can be really nasty too if not spotted right away the speed of the tank can be useless

Germany could ship some Pumas to Ukraine to have them tested on real battlefield against Russians. Not to mention it is in Germany's best interest to weaken their most probable enemy right here, right now.

@Fief13

Жыл бұрын

that's never happening they can send Marder's but even me i wouldn't send Pumas. the risk of having it taken and examined is to high that can severely risk national security

@jansix4287

Жыл бұрын

One can’t win a future war in advance. New Russians will be born and they will build new tanks. We killed 13 million of them in the last war and they rebuild their military nonetheless. It’s best for Germany to save its equipment until needed.

@Marvin-ud8co

Жыл бұрын

We can't even get them to work during exercises in our own country if we send Pumas to Ukraine it would be a logistical nightmare

@XeroOps

Жыл бұрын

No.

@xsto01

Жыл бұрын

@@Marvin-ud8co xD

Send it to Ukraine let us see how it will fare there

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY 💰

War is won by raw courage of soldiers , Axis powers led by Germany lost and Soviet Union and allies won World War 2 .

@gesternvorgestern1868

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂Read some Books. War was Win by Industrial Capacity of the Allied.The Courage of the German Soldiers was by far bigger than the Allies

@darveshzamindar

Жыл бұрын

@@gesternvorgestern1868 Nothing succeeds like sucess.

Drones... Modern warfare has changed for the Western theatre and all Western military's should be adapting their weaponry and tactics to incorporate this , just as Blitzkrieg changed warfare all those years ago with the use of the new weapons so too should they change now... Drone carriers could well be the next IFV for long range engagements followed up by infantry to take and hold the ground after combined arms have destroyed the enemy forces that hold and can engage any troops entering the battle zone. Land warfare may well evolve into a type of warfare more akin to Naval warfare where ships would not see each other but engage and destroy their opponent. Just my thoughts , but a long time ago I did a survey about drones in warfare and stated that drones could change the battlefield in a massive way. We are seeing some of it in Ukraine right now , but the potential of drones has still not been unlocked anywhere near where they evolve to.

Po co komu taki pojazd jak o zgodę na szczelanie i sprzedaż trzeba pytać producenta w czasie konfliktu szkoda pieniędzy bezużyteczny złom

Very evil in Warthunder 🙃

It looks heavy and expensive for being an infantry fighting vehicle, like the hull is too close to being the hull of a tank.

@poppi510

Жыл бұрын

It is made for the German Army, we have a specialised unit which is called "Panzergrenadier".

@pedrolistacarey4880

Жыл бұрын

It means higher protection for the infantry they carry ! That's what money is for.

@daniel931016

Жыл бұрын

@@pedrolistacarey4880 if you can't think beyond "weight = protection", then you should ask why they didn't make a tank like Merkava (which can also do troop transport) instead of an IFV. Heavy vehicles makes the fuel consumption higher and it becomes less mobile - especially on soft ground. Do I really need to explain why that is important? Which one is best protected, the one that is stuck or the one that can swiftly cross plains without refueling? Take your time to answer.

@suddenhit3923

8 ай бұрын

@@daniel931016 the merkava can not transport infatriy units as an IFV. It can carry a few guys if needed but only for emergenxies and has to leavve a lot of ammo for this. The fuel consumption is close to our MBTs so they only charge as far as our tanks. Our IFVs are designed to work close with MBTs units. Those ar not simple battlefield taxis

Germany has the best Militär Vehicles! But the Vehicles and pimped from Rheinmetall goes to the Export! WTF!!!!!! What is here wrong?

@heinzkabofke6791

Жыл бұрын

The Lynx is not better than the puma. Manned turret and wayyyyy les electronic gizmos. And the KF51 is just a tiny spin off from the Eurotank developement, the real thing gon be next gen.

Exuseme, it's not the most advanced armored mashine:😅 Those mashines got Mariupol and Severodonetsk:

Puma sounds great but if have puma that is great why have the lynx that I’m assuming even better. I’m assuming lynx is the newer development from puma.

@herrguggi170

Жыл бұрын

The puma fits the needs of the Bundeswehr way better than the lynx, so for them it is the best ifv available. The lynx was made for export and therefor has to fit the needs of a broad variety of armies. For most countries it may be the lynx, but for Germany the puma is the better vehicle

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

lynx is in the end an offshoot of the Puma. Lower protection levels and greater modularity (like a choice of turret and weapon options, crew compartment size etc) and a bit specked down in comparison to Puma. It is 7m€ per unit cheaper than Puma, so dont expect it to outperform it. (10m€ for Lynx, 17m€ for Puma) Because Puma is not really exportable, due it being tailored to the demands and requirements of the german mechanised infantry (like fighting alongside MBT´s, not just supporting them) and includes certain technologies, germany does not want to export to everybody, Lynx was developed as cheaper and more acessable alternative for international customers, based upon the developements of the Puma Project.

@cedriceric9730

Жыл бұрын

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 technologies like what, possibly?

@cedriceric9730

Жыл бұрын

puma is considered a tank

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@cedriceric9730 armor composites, command and control systems etc

German export vehicle. Shame they don't take their own advice.

@heinzkabofke6791

Жыл бұрын

Puma is not for export. Only Bundeswehr has like 300 of them

@SuperGeronimo999

Жыл бұрын

​@@heinzkabofke6791 It was intended for export, however no one wanted them. It was offered to Hungary, but they wanted the cheaper Lynx. The Czech Republic said, it didn't meet their requirements and chose the swedish CV-90 instead. The US tested it too, and wasn't happy with the proposed APS system, mine protection and found about 20 more issues. In the end no contender met their requirements.

you forget about Sweden vehicle and Israeli Namer

an ifv so advanced that no one can use it effectively

I think Germany should go for the Lynx IFV’s

@GecktronLP

Жыл бұрын

The Lynx is not airliftable

@Thor_Asgard_

Жыл бұрын

why ? the puma is superior. also rheinmetall owns a big part of the Puma manufacturer conglomerate. 30% more or less.

@malo1996

Жыл бұрын

Lynx is for Export and so would the KF51 Panther be. The Puma and the next MBT fromm German/french cooperation will be Mode expensive but also more capable!

@Kurikost_

Жыл бұрын

@@malo1996 yeah..the better version (KF51) is for export and the german military get the german/french tank. :(

@heinzkabofke6791

Жыл бұрын

@@Kurikost_ Not really, no. The KF51 is a neat upgrade to a Leo2A4. The Nexter/KMW Eurotank will be next gen. The leclerc-Leo hybrid they show off is just a moniker, not the real tank.

Let's not forget about the enormous cost of of acquiring and maintaining this technologically advanced IFV. It's too complex for the battle field.

один удар рпг и досвидос ахахах!!!!!

@kamikadzex6502

Жыл бұрын

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I just love this little wonder...! It should be immediately added to every Western Army...! There's nothing better on the market and it is worth every euro you pay for it. German military engineering at its finest !

@lomiawolfcaller5527

Жыл бұрын

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LOL ! Nice moving targets for the A.I. drone swarm to eliminate in the first 28 seconds of contact. R.I.P. - I REALLY hope you don't waste men's lives by putting them into this mobile metal coffin box.

@emilsinclair4190

Жыл бұрын

Because putting them out there without any equipment is so much safer....

Russia's Heavy IFV T-15 (with a 57mm auto-cannon) gives you a look and says the Russian equivalent of "What am I? Chopped liver?"

@pr7638

Жыл бұрын

every russian armorment project of the last 10 years failed tho.. russia isnt a high tech nation either, a lot of their tech is imported e.g. from france an germany. they dont have the funds to develop something on their own, and make it reliable.. just today i read an article about russians highly overrated s-400 system being unable to detect and destroy himars launched missiles leaving all of russia basically defenseless against air threats..

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

well then, how many T-15 are in service? Puma has 350 units in service and the next 230 are on order

@jansix4287

Жыл бұрын

Twice the caliber, half the ammunition. Or is it a quarter of the ammunition? 🤷

@jonny2954

Жыл бұрын

@@jansix4287 The Kinzhal turret has 80 rounds ready to fire, so a bit less than half of the 200 ready to fire on the Puma.

@jansix4287

Жыл бұрын

@@jonny2954 And only one belt feed. So you need to shoot alternating rounds, if you want to use more than one type of ammunition. This way you will run through 80 rounds in no time.