according to Mike Mentzer, close grip chin up is by far the best biceps exercise. Its much better than ANY of the curl movements because biceps is a 2 joint muscle and curls only activates lower part of biceps whereas chin ups activate both lower part and shoulder connection of biceps. old but gold.

@jackcarpenters3759

10 ай бұрын

yes narrow grip chin up was best in overal emg in a study. It also works your pecs!

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

10 ай бұрын

It sucks for actual bicep mass

@jackcarpenters3759

10 ай бұрын

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472No, but there are 2 ways to even increase more according to studies: Do a biceps exercise afterwards, especially concentration curl. Or do instead of the narrow grip chinup the pull where your head goes alternating left/right of the bar, where your grip is like playing a trumpet. It had biggest biceps emg.

@miquebts

10 ай бұрын

He was lying, chin ups are for lats

@doninbaras

10 ай бұрын

Mentzer also recommended chin ups and chin-grip pulldowns for the lats

Pull ups are more functional. You wouldn’t climb up onto a ledge using an underhand grip.

@bxnxjmin

3 ай бұрын

how often are you climbing ledges that this is a consideration? lol

@revinhomerescamposano2654

3 ай бұрын

I think you punch better with pull ups

@superbigidiot

3 ай бұрын

I feel like underhand grips are fairly useful when climbing overhangs that require compressions though.

@j.m.w.5064

3 ай бұрын

​@@bxnxjmin how often do you need to peek over a bar? lol 🙄

@jackcylow

2 ай бұрын

But chin ups make me perform my shoryuken better.

I'm female, almost 69 and fit! listen to your body...i began my pullup journey doing narrow grip, palms facing. It was easy on my shoulder. As I got stronger, I started changing the width and the angle... I'm now doing Lhangs with pullups, over and underhand grip! I hang or pull myself on anything I find and just do a few. I even go to a couple of playgrounds where I am the grandma doing the monkey bars! Just do it!

Pull-ups using gymnastics ring... starting with a pull-up grip at the bottom of the rep, then rotating the hands while ascending until you end up in a chin-up grip at the top of the rep.

You cannot go wrong alternating between both pull ups and chin ups, throw some Dips and push-ups to the mix and that’s going to be a beautiful thing when you start a push - pull program doing body weight exercises ⚡️

@igorkonforovich3497

9 ай бұрын

Dips are terrible both for shoulder and wrist joints, throw them as far away as possible.

@thedanyxcz4892

9 ай бұрын

​@@igorkonforovich3497tf.. nah

@razikazmi6840

9 ай бұрын

@@igorkonforovich3497i thought they help shoulders if u get form down? Idk abt wrist tho

@v01d_r34l1ty

9 ай бұрын

@@igorkonforovich3497how?

@francisco77220

9 ай бұрын

​@@igorkonforovich3497no man, it'all about mobility. Dips are fundamental

I alternate them in the gym, both adding weight to my belt. I can do 7 or 8 reps in my first set of both variations with a 20Kg plate added to my bodyweight. Not bad for 54!

@fit_4ever

Жыл бұрын

👏

@irishmick6709

10 ай бұрын

@@freespeech4023….I've got one for you! My latest routine ( once or twice a week) is to perform 150 pullups/ chins/ mixed grip in under 20 minutes (18 minutes even just yesterday) just body weight though - 180 pounds 70 years young!

@Sezam3k

10 ай бұрын

@@freespeech4023 and I can do 100 push ups with you and your weights on my back 😂

@freespeech4023

10 ай бұрын

@@Sezam3k 😂

@randomscandinavian6094

10 ай бұрын

I’m also 54 and I’m nowhere near being able to do one pull-up. Been training specifically for that now, a few times a week for 3/4 of a year. 😂

Pull ups not being "as heavy or tiring" is completely false. Your biceps are at a mechanical disadvantage with an overhand grip. Pullups are absolutely harder to do than chin ups. Your video is bad info.

@Nev91280

2 ай бұрын

Oh yeah and you're an expert im guessing you have a degree in fitness

@Rahilda

2 ай бұрын

@Nev91280 What if I did? Would that change anything? The point is, even the most basic understanding of human physiology and anatomy tells you that chin ups are easier. Don't believe me? Go do some chin ups and then pull ups and tell me which one was easier and which you could do more reps of. It's going to be chin ups, jackass lol

@Nicolas-fb6pu

2 ай бұрын

​@@Nev91280common sense, bud!

@maiden5427

2 ай бұрын

​@@Nev91280Lat pull down machines exist for a reason. Never heard of a chin pull up machine.

@SchrodingersMath

2 ай бұрын

A neutral grip...produces less Torque and stress on the biceps...better if you want to avoid injury

I had only did pull ups in the past. But decided to also add an equal set of chin ups to build the biceps and eliminate curls. I do weighted sets for pull ups and chin ups.

@grippler3166

11 ай бұрын

Do you notice more gains with the chin ups?

@MarcoAshford

10 ай бұрын

@@grippler3166I noticed my bicep blows up in size. Just doing 4 sets of 5 slow and controlled rep

@noweare1

10 ай бұрын

I use my fat belly for the weights.

@johand3004

7 ай бұрын

Eliminating curls is stupid. Don’t reinvent the wheel

@jonmoris9354

5 ай бұрын

​@@johand3004why not curls are not needed

When I trained calisthenics, I started with pull ups and finished with chin ups. Really: wide grip pull ups, standard pull ups, chin ups, narrow grip chin ups (by then it’s like three reps per set). They are all great, but if I only did one, it was a chin up.

@vidalbalkaran3691

10 ай бұрын

especially if done on gymnastic rings

@SolidestAutumn

10 ай бұрын

Did your biceps grow a lot with Chin-ups?

@noosphericaltarzan

10 ай бұрын

@@SolidestAutumn A bit. Not like what happened from constantly cleaning weights in Olympic weightlifting and kettlebell sport. If I wanted to target biceps for hypertrophy using calisthenics, I would combine false grip chin ups (with isometric) holds and things like high rep pelican curls.

@SDPSacramento

3 ай бұрын

Hey, I have a question how do you still have the strength to do all that?

@noosphericaltarzan

3 ай бұрын

@@SDPSacramento One or the other.

Hopefully absolutely no one takes this seriously. The Pull Ups are a back building exercise that unlocks the lats, like no other exercise can. This is ESSENTIAL for a full body program to keep your physique balanced. Venturing into the harder pull ups, like wide grip and archers, is the best way to ensure a strong a functional back. Yes, Chin Ups are a good biceps exercise, but so are lots of other exercises.

@until3am

10 ай бұрын

Exactly

@mikaelbentley9870

10 ай бұрын

Pull ups also translate into getting onto an object. Chin ups are cool, but I haven’t figured out how to punch through a wall to obtain a grip to do chin ups onto a roof or fence.

@monkemode8128

10 ай бұрын

@@mikaelbentley9870 strength is strength. From only training chin ups and now weighted chin ups I went from having a pull up 1RM of +10 lbs to now +65 lbs. They're very similar, building strength in one is going to build strength in the other. It's like leg press and squats, someone who squats 500 lbs is going to be a strong leg presser regardless of it they train on the leg press consistently.

@jericho-tube

9 ай бұрын

​​@@mikaelbentley9870why you want to jump over the fence ? Only monkey does that 😂😂😂. Are you planning to steal or what ? 😂. These youtube kids are insane 😂

@jericho-tube

9 ай бұрын

Stong and functional back ? Chin ups will also keep yr back functional, your back won's break while walking on the street 😂

both pull ups and chin ups should be in your routine as well as the neutral grip variation... you can build a well developed back/shoulders/chest/arms/core using these 3 exercises alone; master them and you'll build a strength that will translate positively to every lift in the gym - neglect them and you'll likely never even bench 2 plates.

@okdac2559

10 ай бұрын

How pull ups and chin ups improve chest?

@dantemustson

10 ай бұрын

@@okdac2559 benching is not only a Chest/tricep excerise. It engages lats, core to stabilize. Strong posterior chain allows you to arch better and more stable. Also strong quads will give you a leg drive

@topman6727

10 ай бұрын

I can go weeks and months without doing chins or pulls and bench 100kg 😮

@Ahrone1586

10 ай бұрын

​@@topman6727thats not the point xd

@shinigami9859

10 ай бұрын

I know plently of people who bench for more than 225 who don't train them lmao.... tf u on

It depends on what your goals are. I do weighted, wide pull ups and have noticed significant growth in my lats. I only do chins when I also want to target my biceps during a back set. Time is important, so I'm always incorporating supersets or more during a workout.

@jimmyjustright1609

10 ай бұрын

@thetej2227 yes, sir! Spreading the word even on a workout channel. I can dig it! Surrender your will daily!

@mjollnirjc

10 ай бұрын

​@@jimmyjustright1609surrender your will? I thought God gave us free will. Why would I surrender it?

@jimmyjustright1609

10 ай бұрын

@mjollnirjc because we all fall short of God's glory. All men are fallible and unless we accept Christ we cannot have a relationship with our Creator. We're called to surrender to our Lord. My will has and always will fail me. I chose to surrender my will to the Father's daily. It is a choice. Will you continue doing what you've always done and maybe find worldy success or will you surrender your will to your Creators who'll bless you for eternity. All men, No matter how successful you think they are have failed themselves and others and always will. There's only one who is perfect.

@1saadx

10 ай бұрын

God never had a son - Jesus christ was a man and a prophet - and if he ever decided to have one why do you think He would choose a weak human race instead of creating a mighty being or an angel?@@thetej2227

@theironsheik6322

9 ай бұрын

@@thetej2227 Austin 3:16 said I just whipped your ass!

Chin-ups do work on your abs as well. When I was in high school, I got 6 packs from doing chin ups

@Alexanderthenotsobad

Ай бұрын

Dude, I hate to break it to you, you may have been born with "six-pack abs"... You were likely just been very fit.

@ekie7473

Ай бұрын

​@@Alexanderthenotsobadboth chin ups and pull ups still will train the core.

@Jean-jw4hw

14 күн бұрын

@@Alexanderthenotsobad everyone is born with "six-pack abs" most people are just too fat to be visible. But he's right, I have more soreness on my abs by doing pullups than by doing specific abs exercice

@Alexanderthenotsobad

14 күн бұрын

@@Jean-jw4hw Although I appreciate your profile pic, and your comment, not everyone is born with "six"-pack abs. Some naturally have "eight" pack abs (the freaks of nature), and some only four... feel free to look it up...

@Jean-jw4hw

14 күн бұрын

@@Alexanderthenotsobad most people have 6, and yes some people are also born with 3 tits and 3 balls

Both are great to incorporate into your workouts.

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@BRUH-ws3kg

Жыл бұрын

Chin-ups

@ictdpowerstroke4591

Жыл бұрын

Chin ups

@DouglasAbramskiOfficial

11 ай бұрын

Chin-ups for sure.

@noudialp

11 ай бұрын

I do them both and pull-ups always feel harder for me. However, I can do the same number of reps for each.

@wojfer87

10 ай бұрын

Chin-ups. :)

Starting off with chin-ups is a good start for me I can’t do pull-ups so chin-ups are a good movement to start on working your biceps but your still working your whole back

The biggest issue with chin ups is if you use a doorway pull up bar, there isn’t usually a good grip to use. The way the bars are constructed, there are usually bars in the way of a good grip. You need a gym, solid bar, rings or some other way to do them. I love chin ups, but it’s hard to find equipment to do them.

I do pull-ups as my first exercise every workout. I might start alternating with chins. Honestly, I started doing pull-ups after I saw a guy doing them in the gym, and it looked really impressive, so I wanted to get good at them, so I could look impressive too. 😆 I do think pull-ups look more impressive.

Chin ups = More biceps, Pull ups = More Back

Better for what? Since it is primarily considered a back exercise and clearly hits the back more, pull ups are the best exercise for that. In chins your arms can exhaust far more quickly than your back will so that the exercise peters out before the back is ever anywhere near failure. Making it more like an overblown exercise for biceps and a moderate exercise for the back/core. Doing pull ups and then taking biceps immediately to failure with a curl gets you the entire thing. Pull-ups are better.

@fit_4ever

10 ай бұрын

Good point

@dementionalpotato

4 ай бұрын

It’s just clickbait

@spareemail-n1p

2 күн бұрын

not true lol

Great core activation as well especially if you maintain a straight posture while performing the movements.

@ramon3077

9 ай бұрын

Used to be fat, got incredibly solid abs from doing hollowbody chins over the years. Highly recommended for this.

Great vid💪🏿

both are great but i injured my wrist for 4 month by doing chin up on bar and push up combination, thats why pull up is better on bar, but chin up is saver on rings

Pull Ups and Chin Ups are best exercises, it blows my back, biceps, chest and abs like no other. And i dont injure unlike from Dead-L or Barb-Row. Sadly i was never able to do more than 6.

@WhoFlungDung

10 ай бұрын

I've noticed my abs are the most sore after doing pullups/chinups over any isolated ab exercise. It's great for the core.

@shahbazkhan-ek7hp

10 ай бұрын

Try L Sit chinups and you will feel it in the quads and lower abs as well.

I've actually been doing mixed grip sets with one palm forward, one palm backward, and alternating sides each set. It feels like a nice balance and a very natural motion, like climbing a tree. You wouldn't pull your body weight up to a branch in a pull-up or chin-up style. You'd wrap your hands around the branch with a mixed grip.

@iangraham-white5717

10 ай бұрын

I would because I can do multiple sets of 8-12 weighted pull-ups

@maulekuul

10 ай бұрын

@@iangraham-white5717 I guess you are extra special

@austintorrence5400

8 ай бұрын

Crazy thing is a guy that works out at the job was just telling me thats how he do his pull ups. I said I have to try it.

Thank you very much for this video ❤

@fit_4ever

11 ай бұрын

You're welcome 😊

Very good video with much to learn from. I'll be watching this again. I also do a mix of both in my training.

@fit_4ever

10 ай бұрын

I'm Glad it was helpful 🙂

@kristiannoel4866

10 ай бұрын

@@fit_4ever I learned a lot from it.

Do both and in many grip variations, i concentrate more on pullups though and to my bellybutton, aiming for hips. I workout to form failure

Pull ups are better for posture, they reinforce the shoulders back cue and involve the traps /rear delts more . Chin ups sacrifice that with more chest (and of course bicep) activity. Too many people, including some fitness influencers, have a hunched over posture and pull ups are one weapon in your armoury to help correct that.

@fit_4ever

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, are right. pull ups are better for posture

Very clear and interesting video!

@fit_4ever

10 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

guys trust me 3 sets of 12 reps chin ups, 3 sets of 7 sets pull ups will make your upper body aesthetic af

@itz_AbuzarKhan

28 күн бұрын

How many reps are in one set?

@baidajel

28 күн бұрын

@@itz_AbuzarKhan do a total of 40 chin ups with rest and 30 pullups

@baidajel

28 күн бұрын

@@itz_AbuzarKhan just try to do more chinups for compensation to ur biceps

I’m in the process of installing my Rogue pull up bar in my yard so I can work on muscle ups. I’m 66.

I use the padded grip perpendicular extensions on my doorway pull up bar for a midway "neutral" grip. I feel that it distributes the effort between the biceps, lats, pecs, and back. I am into high rep pull ups and can do 100 in two sets, such as 51+49 or 52+48 with 4 minutes rest in between. This requires intense cardio training on a bicycle, deep breathing to the point of hyperventilation, and pre-workout super beet chews. It's all about blood flow at high reps. For completeness, I also do feet on bench push ups , plank ring rows, and ab roller crunches.

@chrisw5742

10 ай бұрын

@@thetej2227 Hail Odin

@ZyroSugar

8 ай бұрын

51 pull ups in one set? No way you’re locking out and chin above the bar using no momentum

@drmitofit2673

8 ай бұрын

@@ZyroSugar The world record is 651 pull ups, so why would my relatively puny numbers be out of the realm of possibility? My workout wouldn't even be that dude's warm up routine. I have since given up on two sets because it didn't really get me out of my fitness plateau and the only advantage was the bragging point of 100 pull ups in two sets. I have since moved on to single set pull ups with a 20 lbs weighted vest (as well as all of my other single set calisthenics with the same weighted vest). I feel like there are fewer garbage reps and with fewer reps and single sets, it's much easier to find time to work out. Started at 40 pull ups with weighted vest and gradually worked my way up to 50 pull ups with 20 lbs weighted vest, personal best. Then for the next work out I attempted a body weight pull up personal best. Without the added weight, it's like I am flying up with minimal effort. In fact for the first 20-25 pull ups the hand grip pressure drops to zero as my chin goes over the bar. This allows a split second of blood flow and micro rest to the muscles at the top of the pull. Some pull up competitors rest by hanging at the bottom but this is too uncomfortable to me, personally. I like to get the set over, ASAP. In my experience it is people stuck at low rep pull ups that cheat the range of motion, not high rep competitors. I am not doing the body flex or kipping method, so no momentum there. One trick it to look up the whole time so that your chin is already high and you are not cranking your neck into extension with each pull. Also, my neutral grip allows more pectoralis activation so I can pull my chest up to the bar (beyond the mere chin up). Another trick is to go to full arm extension at the bottom and use the reflex muscle tension stretch/bounce to come out of the bottom. I use full range of motion this way, but lingering at the bottom does you no good at all. So with the weighted vest single set up ups< I was able to bust through my previous fitness plateau and I was finally able to achieve my fitness goal of 60 body weight pull ups to match my age. Now I just have to get to 61 within a year.

@chrisw5742

8 ай бұрын

@@drmitofit2673 hmmm I have a pacemaker with a bad heart and had my whole neck fused front and back. Had some of the back muscles cut. I do workout though but I would be lucky to do 10 pullups. :-P

@ZyroSugar

8 ай бұрын

@@drmitofit2673 well that’s incredibly impressive, the most I’ve seen someone to pull ups on a row is like 40. how did you train to get there? Also how do you breath correctly doing so many reps? What’s your Push ups dips record as well if u don’t mind me asking.

I always do the same amount of sets for chinups and pullups, and my maximum is 15 reps for both exercises. I am completely symmetrical! And I can do 45 good form pushups as maximum, so my pushups are 3 times more than my pullups/chinups. Is everyone on the same ration of 1/3 ?

Great Video. Finally someone who makes exercise videos and actually knows about it. The grips are not mutually exclusive. I do both with four different combinations of grips. I do at least a hundred a day and sometimes more. Chin ups / pull ups are the best exercise you can do for over all fitness. People at the gym can't believe I'm 69. The abs get an excellent workout too and this helps a lot at my running.

For many people who are not that strong, doing assisted chin ups or pull ups on either an assisted machine, or doing them on a pulley type machine is much better, b/c you can reduce the weight. If you can only do a couple chin or pull ups, it's gonna be real hard to progress. If you do something where you can do 8-10 reps and steadily increase how much weight you do (or decrease the amount of assistance), you are much more likely to maintain and use better form than if you are straining using maximal effort all the time. Sometimes less is more, esp if somebody is not already strong enough to do several unassisted pull or chin ups.

@olkaneyupoglu3395

9 ай бұрын

I started doing 2 chin ups weighing 240 pounds. I started doing it everyday. After 1 month can do now 10 strict pull ups and chin ups. Train hard and be patient. Nothing is hard if i believe in it. Your mind is stronger than you think 💪

@johns7530

9 ай бұрын

@@olkaneyupoglu3395 Solid achievement, very glad that approach worked for you! Depends on your age though. I'm in my early 50's, and a friend of mine who is close to my age tore his rotator cuff a couple years or so ago attempting to do pull ups. Sometimes less is more, and the hardest exercises not the best place to start. It's not that different from starting out with maximum weight on a bench press, most people are better off starting to work with a weight they can do 10 times or something rather than just once or twice. I used to be able to bench press twice my body weight about 25 years ago, and have had all kinds of neck, back, and shoulder issues, with tons of chronic tension in those areas. Heavy and intense training is not always the best for people's bodies in the long run, and sometimes the negative effects are not visible until the wear and tear on the body becomes evident years later. Based on my own experience in the gym 5 days/week for more than 20 years, I think lighter weights and less resistance (and greater variety) are better places for most people to start. Just be careful and notice how your body feels, but that's not to take anything away from your progress, great for you man! 💪

@JustanamebroDK

5 ай бұрын

Just do pull up negatives, inverted rows and band/pulley assisted pullups and you will have pull ups in no time no machines needed. There's always a natural progression without machine, I prefer pure calisthenics myself but both will work.

@BWater-yq3jx

4 ай бұрын

Lat pull-downs, visualising pullup technique, are better. There's something about assisted pullup machines that just feels disconnected and 'off'.

This is good information love from India 😊❤

I do both along with neutral grip pull-up.

Thanks!

ahhh good to know so basically do both at the same time I loveeeeee pull ups soo fun lol just gonna do 3 sets if not more each!

I feel my upper back more in chin ups and I think is because it is easier and can do full range of motion. In pull ups I am not going as high their for less range of motion. But I think chin ups will make me better at pull ups eventually since they basically work same muscles but a bit differently.

You should be doing both, and neutral grip pull ups, and closed grip pull ups and archer pull ups, and dead hangs.

I advice doing both of them and the neutral grip pull up. I regular do two sets of each one to reach 6 sets. it feels good. 😉

Doing both is absolutely best

Any interesting studies on neutral-grip chin-ups?

It depends on what you want to do. I want to get better at bouldering, so I do pullups more because of the hand position.

@ramon3077

9 ай бұрын

From what I've read, some bouldering/rock climber folk barely even train pullups. The hardcore enthusiasts probably favor finger boards over bars.

If you wanna grow a bigger and stronger back, you should do every variation possible

nice video my friend, good information I mainly do pull ups might start doing more chin ups now, great share 💪 👌 👏

@fit_4ever

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 💪

@JaykleMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@fit_4ever my pleasure

To me its the other way round. The version you say is easier or less demanding is much harder for me, while the standard/popular version (palms back, lot of unwanted bicep involvement) is much easier for me. I can do nearly twice as many. Its annoying because I'm trying to focus on my torso/back/core WITHOUT majorly ripping my biceps too (which that version does). You end up with biceps & triceps looking disproportionately large compared to shoulders, which looks totally wrong (small shoulders + thick arms = no). So you have to find a back ripping exercise that just works the back, but I haven't found one yet.

I just find them so awkward but I LOVE neutral grip pull-ups. It's the only grip I've been using for a long time and probably for the rest of my journey.

@RichardMauri

Ай бұрын

Yes. Wide neutral and narrow neutral without tendinitis

Thank you ❤

“when in doubt..”, thus , I do both 😊

I focus more on weighted pull-ups, mainly for my training to muscle-up, now i can do weighted muscle-up with 20kg for 1 rep max

The latest studies show there is literally no difference between pronated or supinated or wide or narrow grips in pull ups. They all target the lats the same and they all hit the biceps the same. The only difference is how it feels. The results will be the same no matter which one you choose. What I'm saying is pullups and chin-ups are identical in results. Unsurprising when you do pullups correctly you would realize it hits the lats far more than the chest or biceps when you do the full extension range of motion. You can check this, its been confirmed.

Thank you! Very helpful

@fit_4ever

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Do do both pull ups and chip ups so id say i like both

Took the grandson to the playground so I decided to see how poor of shape I am doing pull ups on a bar. Guess I better get going as the number was pretty low!

I'll take both 🎉

I do both daily, 10 sets 10 reps. once a week with a 35lb plate, once a week iso holds with a 45 lb plate

it depends on range. try doing a high pull up to your belly vs high chin ups to your belly. which one is easier? it all depends.

I make a superset of both allways starting with pullups until failure, then chinups until failure.

Very very interesting

Train both. Alternate between days of chin ups and pull ups. Also mix some days with weights for low rep and some days with resistance band for high reps.

Why many people do pull ups? There are so many videos about pull ups but but chin ups videos are not to be found

Do them with leg raises! You a machine if you can do that. I can do it a bit… I’m getting there tho.

I usually use neutral large and neutral grips

i do both at the same time ! Mixed grip !

never did curls , just chin ups, first time i strict curled 70kg ...chin ups work good for bicep

@Jean-jw4hw

14 күн бұрын

lol i would very much like to see your definition of "stricte curls" at 70 kg.

@SurvivalGames1

14 күн бұрын

@@Jean-jw4hw leaning against a wall , head , back and gluteus have to be in contact with the wall i also did a 100kg cheat curl @ 100kg bodyweight, and 30kg strictcurls with one dumbell for 7 reps 13 clean chin ups at 116kg bodyweight just 2,5 years training with a focus on squat ,bench , pull up variations and deadlifts and some isolation exercises

@Jean-jw4hw

14 күн бұрын

@@SurvivalGames1 100kg curl ? 🤣🤣🤣 or maybe u"re on steroid for 2.5 years and ur composed of 116 kg of muscle bones and water ? u dummy 100kg curl 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

Chin ups & last rep I switch to pull ups if I don’t have access to rings

Neutral grip? Def. the easiest on my joints.

Pullups are good, but what bothers me is that your body keeps swinging back and fourth. You have to pause a bit every few reps.

Personally, I get a better activation on my lats when I perform Chin-ups. The only difference is you have to do chest-to-bar.

Advanced calisthenics athletes practice all grips, at least 50 more grips than what this video shows… Various holds on rope, climbing boards, balls, towels, polls, ledges, FatGripz, slippery bars, etc… Advanced calisthenics athletes don’t ask “which hold is best?” They just do them all.

@tappajaav

8 ай бұрын

That's ridiculous, 50 grips? You don't need all that nonsense to become strong. Also climber = / = calisthenic practicioner

@jakemccoy

8 ай бұрын

@@tappajaav It sounds like you already know everything. So, you're all set.

@tappajaav

8 ай бұрын

@@jakemccoy Cheers! Planning to be CEO of universe by tomorrow

I used to mainly pull ups. But now due to injury in my elbow I replaced them with Chin ups and my lats remain as strong. The angle of the chin ups remains when you are tired. While the body angle while doing the pull ups is usually decreased when you’re getting tired.

Pull ups build solid back. Pull ups also hit your biceps with different angle. So you probably should do both Or alternatively. Can't say anyone of this is better than other. Both are good in their own way.

When I do Chinups, I place my hands like you with a Hammer Curl, palms pointing towards each other. Are those good too? I figured it would just be like a chin up with more emphasis on the brachialis

Both have also different benefits. Do both ex and feel also the different muscle working!💪

I think mid back muscles also play a significant role

Ok it's gonna be a bit controversial but for lats I am all into chin ups. If we will compare standard grip chins and pulls the back has almost the same activation (I feel better stretch on chins). Differencece lies in arms. You might get more activation for bicep with chin ups but it doesn't take anything from back. During pull ups sonething still has to bent the arm right? Tension goes more into other elbow flexors. There is more than just a bicep that does this function. For best growth of Your back You need full spectrum of grip width, that was purely theoritical, I just wanted to bring up chin ups a bit cause people still believe this exercise is worse cause of bicep activation while this argument doesn't take anything from back unless Your form is reaaaaly biasing bicep to the point it becomes a point of failure. It happens to me but I am doing that intentionally. You will have to choose Your variations and ecercises according to Your demands and current standpoint.

I train both variations but pull up are favorite

I'm chin up biased (just enjoy them more), but I do pull ups when I feel some need for variation.

What about neutral grip pull up?

Both mate . Diff angles , parts etc

i do them all, i used to hate doing p.t... now if i miss a day, my body craves activity.. i cant sit still

Chin ups for biceps and pull ups for back. Both have a value and both should be included in your program

@ramon3077

9 ай бұрын

Sternum chinup is incredible for back.

If you want to target mostly your lats, do pull-ups. If you want to do more of a biceps "isolation" then do chin-ups.

With a Chin-up it's also easier to tear your bicep. No one talks about this. If you're doing chinups make sure it's nice and slow, make sure to control the rep and don't do jerky motions

@tappajaav

8 ай бұрын

That should be given regardless of the exercise done

Chin-ups are great there is no doubt but the back is the foundation for the upper body. Never neglect your back!

So unlike your thumbnail, pull-ups are in fact better for me, which is exactly what I’ve been doing.

it always suprises me why most people choose pull ups over chinups but when it comes to squats they choose normal squats over front squats although they elicit more quads activation but we choose normal squats because we're stronger at them so it means theyre better for hypertrophy the same should go for chinups. If you choose weighted chinups you can lift more and your hypertrohhy will get better the biceps doesnt take over the lats like most people say the truth is you will be just stronger using that grip thats why I choose chinups and i never do pull ups

@blacklyfe5543

11 ай бұрын

Chinups are more harder for me because I have to use more of my biceps and the way how I grip the bar

@blacklyfe5543

11 ай бұрын

You should use both

@JJbouncetrio

11 ай бұрын

Na Front squats are much better for hypertrophy for me . More weight on the bar doesn't always mean better , Less weight means the desired muscle u want to work is doing all of the work.

@androidaccount7743

10 ай бұрын

You're an idi*ot if you refuse to do pull ups.

@boolaofmt8815

9 ай бұрын

front squats are goated for me. I have naturally bigger glutes and they steal most of the gains with squats, but front squat just demolish my quads and upper back. Used to hate it back then tho.

Both are benifit 😁😁

Just doing do cause this Two both exercise have they own benefits

I think, the best combination is weighted muscle-ups (lower reps, mostly strengh-focused) + weighted chin-ups (higher reps, mostly hypertrophy-focused). This is what I consistently do.

I feel my lats get super sore through chin ups strange

I find it much more difficult to do chin-ups, but pull- ups are easier than chin-ups for me. When I can do 15 pull-ups in a row , I can hardly do 9 chinups. However, It may be different for men, and depends on fingers and body type.

@frede.simsjr.3780

7 ай бұрын

That is very unusual because chin up 3:37 so much easier than pull-ups by far because because it allows you to use more of your arms it's always a second to the rule but I can do pull-ups and channels but I do the pull-ups first because they are the hardest and as I fatigue then I do chin UPS

If you can do pull ups you don't need to do chin ups anymore. Yes there is benefit to doing chin ups as well but pull ups are a much better exercise to focus on. Yes better bicep activation from chin ups and if you do close grip chin ups the emphasis on the biceps is even bigger. Here is the deal though, do you really need to focus on your biceps? Biceps are used a lot in many exercises. Today for example I did weighted pull ups, lat pulldowns, singe arm rows, dumbbell shoulder press, dumbbell chest press and cable lateral raises. The pull ups, lat pulldowns and rows already hit my biceps plenty. Sure every now and then you could throw in some bicep specific work but it's not needed to get a great looking physique.

@lewisyaworski8962

10 ай бұрын

I agree with that different exercises will recruit the biceps/brachialis without performing a curl or chin-ups, it always depends on your goal. For me, I am working on building my deadlift strength and grip is the major link to make it work. I am using a double-overhand grip, so I can keep my shoulders in rotational symmetry. I use chin-ups because I need another movement that does not require pulling from the floor and there is the added benefit of improving my relative strength at the same time.

@tappajaav

8 ай бұрын

Forgive the hyperbole but that's like saying that you don't need to squat once you can do a bodyweight squat. You can always add more difficulty to chin-ups by doing them slower, adding weight, or slowly transfering to one arm chin-ups. They are also incredibly time-efficient exercise, so if I were limited with my gym time doing them would be very beneficial

Excellent compound exercises. But one is for back day...the other is for bicep day.

I started recently with chinups and from a getgo i can do 4 clean ones, but pullup barely 1...For me pulluls almost seems impossible...Still having a problems and don't know how to squeeze them into my exercise routine.

@tappajaav

8 ай бұрын

Try doing eccentric pullups. Get to the top position(for example use a nearby object to stand on, grip the bar,) and slowly lower yourself. Repeat. Could help you to eventually hit good form pullup.

chinups are easier and less strenuous on your elbows so good for older people. idk if chinups are better but they're definitely easier

@jumbothompson

9 ай бұрын

And less strain on the shoulder joint. I got some nice tennis elbow doing pull ups. Neutral grip is best.

Finally someone said it. 👏