for anyone wandering and wondering how the dark psy bass is made and have opened a thousand windows from different channels to find the one that is actually it, THIS is it ;) this is all you need to do a good foresty bassline

after 5-6 years off bookings and music production due to studying, it´s interesting how much more you can find on youtube meanwhile. when we started around 2008, there was little to nothing online available to learn it. nowadays you can find how to do everything ^^ Edit: and crazy the amount of presets available for everything xD i find it nice to support artists, but overall not really necessary if you prefer to understand sound synthesis as a musician and be totally authentic

@MuteProduction

7 ай бұрын

yeah it’s totally different for newcomers these days. When I started off there was pretty much just isratrance and the other forums.

This style reminded me of Dronebixie. Sweet tutorial.

Brilliant as always! 🤟🏽

Great tutorial, thank you

Ooooh thank you very much ! It's the best tutorial !

Thanks again. The level of information is fantastic 🙏

Deep knowledge. Amazing to watch 🙏

Just mindblown, well done mate

thx for this!!

very useful tutorials; really great ideas for perfect forest sound- Great

Very detailed - keep up the great work and excited to see some more new videos :)

Top top video and explanation. Thank you for the tips, really upped my bass game

The amazing

amazing bro!!!!! aaaaah it is deliciious

I'm happy to have stumbled over your channel, your tutorials are gold and it is easy to follow and understand. You have a sub more 👍

Some very nice ideas in here 🙂 I'm interested to try that vb1 style saw wave. Thanks for another great tutorial 🤘👽✨

amaaaaazinggggggggggggggggg thanks a lot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! loveeeeee

Great video bro!

You do wonders with the wavetable editor- you really found the power within it, respect !

dude you're the best! your videos are so great. thanks for this one!

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

killer video - well done. totally delivered for the 5k subs special! hope you grow even more in the future!:)

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

🍻

I have learned more for you and your videos than in the past 3 years. Thank you 🙏

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

happy to help dude!

finally, a tutorial with pro psy sounds, the sounds somebody hears at parties.

absolutely epic! congrats on the path you trailed until now and thanks for aiding us in unblocking new sonic horizons

Amazing video ! thank for sharing 🙏 ! great comprehension of techniques used in forest psy style . this will probably help a lot of new producers including me

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

I certainly hope so!

Really nice tutorial, sounds awesome! The quality of your videos is proper next level stuff. Other than the killer quality of your packs, the videos you upload are just another reason to buy the packs and show some support. Keep it up man and thank you!

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mani really appreciate the kind words 🥲

Thanks alot!!! Really liked this one! I put my filter on 18 and got the bass sound I had in my head. Making a new track thanks to this!

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

the 18dB/oct filter is lovely huh! pleased to hear you got done inspiration from the video!

yea nice tips

greetings from germany. Thanks for the interestung video. We try this and the bass run and run and run...

top forest bass tutorial on youtube

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

🥰

i would love to see a video that introduce to how make use of reverb and delay especially the use of return channels in forest . thanks again , looking forward to your next videos.

@kunturasmr

Жыл бұрын

Agree

Hey I love your tutorial it’s great, One thing I’d like to mention that would help with the sound… if you want it to look like the original wave with that slight dip on the left hand side, go to remap 1 on the warp and just move the left hand side of the graph up until you see it turn into the same shape as the VB1. ✌🏽

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

nice tip! remap is very interesting, especially as we can load lfo shapes into it :o

I would absolutely love it if you did a few more of these bass videos about how you make the waves. I have both of your bass packs, and they're great, but the one thing I can't figure out is how you made some of the waves for the darker basses, and it seems like it's really the waves that make some of them sound the way they do.

@Kikudoxx

Жыл бұрын

A lot of that modulation of the saw wave is done by multiband saturation with plugins like saturn 2

@ziqada598

Жыл бұрын

color eq, multiband saturation and taking out some of the third harmonic plus a bit of EQ gives it a "darker" sounding body

Nice move with the super easy note length and velocity setup. You might've just changed the way I build my bass racks after all these years. :P

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

laziness is key

Lovya

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

😘

🤩❤️❤️

Dude thx you to you for what you do having discovered your channel's has improved my sound drastically. I noticed you did not split the fundamental on this bass and was just wondering if there was a specific reason for that?

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

hey dude, no reason in particular just didn’t want to overcomplicate the video :)

Dayum boi. Can you do a tutorial on the initial bird like and squelch sounds?

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

I will take a look at the project and see what i can do

Awesome vid thank you, may I ask what kick you used here?

@MuteProduction

11 ай бұрын

iirc it’s beholder 4 from my forest kick pack pitched down 2 semitones

I'm recording some bass waves of my old computer pentium two 86x where I have some nice plugins like vb-1 and put in the wavetable of serum

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

if you have Vital, use that to import the waves and save them from there :)

I’m curious on why you prefer to have the high pass for making the ASYMMETRIC effect over the ASYM distortion ? Thanks a lot for the video!

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

they have quite a different effect, if you try it you will see what i mean. what is quite cool though is that now when you distort your bass line after this high pass, the distortion will generally sound cleaner and easier to dial in

Thank you for this tutorial! Has anyone had issues with the filter in the FX tab of Serum? When I apply the filter, I nearly lose all volume. Playing with it now but not sure what I'm doing wrong.. Perhaps there was an update with Serum..? Thank you for any input

Wow! Very nice channel. You have a great knowledge in wavetable synthesis. I guess i must dive deeper into it. Peace from Poland!

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, i like your channel very much too! you are a master with Harmor :) by the way, you wrote one of my favourite tracks! Forest of dalmurilia :) 💥💥

@JediMasterStudio

Жыл бұрын

Seriously??? That's awesome 🤩 Do you also release your music? Or just making tutorials?

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

@@JediMasterStudio haha yeah it’s a great track. I would love to release some tracks one day but for now i struggle with finishing tracks. One day i will though!

@biokode

Жыл бұрын

​@@MuteProductioneven you struggle finishing tracks, huh? 🤔 Guess it happens at all skill-levels! I've been making "computer music" since I was a kid (39 soon), but I'm new to psytrance. Still can't finish a damn thing though 😅☝️

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

@@biokode one day we’ll break the cycle!

Hello thank u for this great tutorial! Can u tell In what key is the bassline written and how it looks?

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

the bass is in E, do you mean what the waveform looks like?

Always wanted to ask How have you learnt serums wavetable editor in this detail? Is it just through experimentation or reading material? Or have you done sound engineering? Great video! Thanks

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

lots and lots of experimenting:)

thanks so much for the golden tips

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

I recorded vb1 and made a wavetable with it :)

hey, how you doing the voice like you project ?

Hey man great work 😎. I would like to know which program do you use. Cubase or FL.

@MuteProduction

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, I’m using Ableton Live

@marcosantoniosarajardon9522

3 ай бұрын

@@MuteProduction thanks for the advice 😎

Thanks for awesome video! Question: What could be the reason that Velocity effect doesn't affect the velocity? Nothing happens when i tweak the output range. I changed the velocity for the bass notes in the midi patch, still no effect!

@MuteProduction

15 күн бұрын

is velocity mapped properly with serum?

Hey how do you get all the VB wave forms to add to serum ? Is there a place to download the wave forms from

@MuteProduction

8 ай бұрын

I recorded Vb1 and chopped out a single cycle

First, I really like your tutorials and your Vibe. But the beginnig really has me wondering how oddly specific the Number 58 is :D Like, did you just try aaaall the possibilitys until you where satisfied? or what was the process involved in finding this exact number?

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

hey mate, so the purpose was to recreate the vb1 saw, so i had a look at the vb1 saw in the fft editor and could see whereabouts the little snap happens :)

Cmon man..u don't need all that jazz for this type of basic baselines.

How do fight the post-ringing from the processing that causes the notes to overlap with each other? Is resampling into audio and cutting the tails for those notes an option for this?

@MuteProduction

3 күн бұрын

in my opinion post ringing is actually not a problem. Phase shift is a good thing imo. But with these forest basses i am usually not doing very much to cause dispersion in the lows because it turns the lows into more a hum rather than a clear low frequency pulse with each bass note. To answer the question about cutting tails, I would recommend against totally cutting sample tails like that because it will just introduce very low frequencies that will ruin low end clarity. Instead if you **must** reduce post ringing then use a gentle fade or some release in the sampler to create a smooth fade out at the end of the sample. Do not be afraid of overlap between bass notes, it is *not* a problem.

How this waveform create in vital?

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

blend a saw and a square saw with the saw one octave above the square, make sure to Clear the phase bins in the table editor for both oscillators.

wavetable vb1 saw ehats is the pack?

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

it’s recorded directly from vb1

Hey, I have a problem. My bass is sounds really high, not like yours which is low. What could be the problem?

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

perhaps try a lower octave?

I can't figure out how to make this waveform in Vital, help please

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

you can just draw it in vital

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

alternatively blend in some square

What’s ur SoundCloud? 🎉

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

i have no releases yet i’m afraidn

i think most of the magic comes from ableton plugins. because i tried to duplicate this in fl studio, but it doesnt sounds same. after you added note lenght plugin, it changed

@spiralmoment

Жыл бұрын

There's nothing magic about live's plugins. That just sets the note length. Just play around with note length. You could also use something like lfo tool or Kilohearts curve to make sure the notes aren't overlapping.

15:35 "I'm just gonna leave this Warm Tape on, because I've decided I kinda like it." Hahh, what I heard was "Cant pick one i like.. Fuck it, lets decide I like the default, easy enough. Now I can move on." (And I don't have Saturn so hence I assume Warm Tape is default since you say "leave" :) ) And lovely tutorial man, super, it was very educational for me. Good explanations and A/B. And since I'm fairly new to "production" overall, still mostly in "trying to understand sound -phase" (cause I'm retarded in that way that, if I don't understand something properly, my mind kinda says "_______"), so the work in the DAW is fairly slow, haven't DECIDED (hehe!) I like the bass yet xD . So you connected more dots whilst also making them bigger, cheers dude, subbed.

Should the frequency spectrum slowly degrade from lows to highs or does it not matter at all?

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

i’m not sure if i know what you mean?

@Martin-vj7zx

Жыл бұрын

@@MuteProduction thanks for the answer. in the frequency spectrum the frequences does they have to be all the same volume and slowly degrade or is it normal to have some lows very loud and some mids a little bit more quiet in the frequency spectrum. because in vb -1 it goes down very harmonicly but when i make baseline with a saw wave it goes down a little bit inharmonicly, like they are not all the same volume

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

it all depends on the style of bass you are after. I would say to trust your ears, or analyse tracks you like and see if you can get a similar sound

what about the kick haha :)

@ariidenaro922

Жыл бұрын

bassline tutorial my bro, try to search for kick2 kick synthesis.

não consegui chegar nesse timbre :/

+

mine is way to quiet even on maxed volume and gain. really weird edit: I started all over again, I cannot follow this guide and produce any similar bassline.

@MuteProduction

7 ай бұрын

sorry for the slow response, still no luck? if you like you can email me or contact me on discord so i can see what’s going wrong

Using fl studio and can't replicate the bassline sadly.

@MuteProduction

7 ай бұрын

check your in the right octave and the notes are the right length.

@NuttyMikey

7 ай бұрын

@@MuteProduction Im in E2, E3 on 16th notes. Im not sure what I'm doing wrong.

@MuteProduction

7 ай бұрын

@@NuttyMikey make the notes about a 1/32 in length and see what happens. your sub should be hitting around the 40hz area.

@NuttyMikey

7 ай бұрын

@@MuteProduction Thank you so much brother. Yea this is the sound after experimenting. I've been DJing Psytrance for nearly 1 year and I wanted to get into the production of things. I love the genre :)

@MuteProduction

7 ай бұрын

@@NuttyMikey no problem dude :) if your enjoying production consider joining a discord server such as my own so you can ask questions and start getting feedback on your work from the community:)

First of all, very interesting to mix the wave shape to bring in odd harmonics, and a solid tutorial as per usual! I have one question though, you use the velocity midi controller, but then set the minimum velocity to 127, effectively zeroing its effect.. why? I like the approach because it is very handy to not have to fiddle around with individual midi notes but rather have one automated knob that controls the velocity (genius by the way, same for the length) but why 127? your oscilloscope also shows no real velocity change on the first step. One small add, although there is little to add to this vid, but I found it also works great for more hi frequency rich basses like for hi tech (like VB-1), is instead of using a clean saw wave, use one from an old synth like for example the MS-2000 Their saw also already has a beautiful color to it, creating even more unusual harmonics, a touch really gives it a nice crunch. I used the ms2000 from this one if anyone is interested: www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/comments/2jhew1/1700_waveforms_for_serums_wavetable_download_link/

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

Hey dude, with the velocity would usually set it up at the start of the process but i actually totally forgot about it until near the end of the vdieo where i change it to around 90

@MuteProduction

Жыл бұрын

also yes analog waves can be super nice for bass! :)

@Yobott

Жыл бұрын

@@MuteProduction My bad, I responded too quick.

I wait this!! Great video! Thx bro. Check out your email!! Cheers!!!!