Yeah I had a _years old YLOD_ PS3. It always worked, but it got very loud. Deliding and replacing all the thermal paste fixed all the problems!

@starkiller7057

2 ай бұрын

Did you use paint remover?

Amazing and useful video 👍👍 Thanks a lot for your great efforts 🌷👍

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, it was my pleasure to try and fix this, no real effort involved...

That’s not even close to enough thermal paste on the IHS and the liquid metal is definitely not enough either, the paint remover isn’t doing anything either. This is not a proper guide. You used good tools, just poor execution. Also that liquid metal isn’t going to do a thing when you use thermal paste on the IHS, if you use liquid metal you have to use liquid metal on both, otherwise it makes no difference.

Good work, mate! 👍

@secondlife1970

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍 Please see the 3 out of five I have fixed until now kzread.info/dash/bejne/hKio1ZN9qLSxqps.html

I would recommend using Electrical Contact Cleaner instead of Paint Remover. Contact Cleaner won't damage anything if left on too long whereas Paint Remover can. You will get the same effect as Electrical Contact Cleaner instantly dissolves dried out thermal interfaces. It also gets into the small pores of the IHS to remove all of the old Paste so the new paste can fill those voids.

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Maybe it's true but I don't believe the white glue can be easily soften with just contact cleaner. IPA can be used to remove heatsink compound but not the glue. White glue it's hard as a cement.

@anthonyboccardo2726

7 ай бұрын

@@secondlife1970 Heat softens the glue no need for paint stripper on the thermal compound, especially on the 1st gen phats.

Just bought a Fat model, fan is stuck on like a vacuum cleaner. I will have to do this, thanks for a great video explaining everything. You are more than welcome to do it for me, the glue looks a right pain. 😂👍🏼

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Fast fan needs urgent de-lid. Sorry, I do not do any custom jobs. I do not have time to save all these poor PS3's out there . It's everyone's responsibility to try to save this planet from e-waste. Good luck and godspeed!

The southern avoca has so much experience and who he ends up forming a coalition with is a very lucky lion.

Heyo, firstly amazing video secondly i am surprised you didn't use any heat to delid the rsx. Would i be able to do the same thing with no heat applied?

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely, usually the RSX is the problem so more mechanical stress on it it's no good.

Isn't liquid metal a bad idea to use there? Since the Ps3 IHS is made of aluminum and will likely cause corrosion?

@secondlife1970

2 жыл бұрын

Hello, the IHS on the chip itself is not aluminium, and it's plated anyway. I know it's not good for aluminium. The heatsink that goes on top of the IHS is aluminium. I put regular compound there.

@micaelmarcos4323

2 жыл бұрын

@@secondlife1970 Ohhh, just like Intel Cpus IHS, thanks a lot for the explanation, this whole process envolves quite the practice and extreme care, so i admire all things envolved in the video♥️ best regards

@jimmy50341

8 ай бұрын

​@@secondlife1970hello I have a slim 2000 model and I have broken motherboard to practice on it Seems like you removed the ihs from the rsx easily, but on mine I can't figure out how to do it, because it's tough Or did Sony use different glue on slim models?

What type of fluid was that you were putting on was it paint thinner? If so, wouldn't it have a detrimental effect to use on a circuit board? Also, can't you just clean the residue with IPA and a q-tip?

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

The paint stripper is softening the glue and i's not damaging the pcb. It's safe for those memory chips also, that's very hard plastic ( heat resistant). IP alcohol is not strong enough.

@nowonmetube

Жыл бұрын

@@secondlife1970 which solvent is it? I doubt that every paint stripper is pcb safe, right?

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

@@nowonmetube just try-it on another pcb, just in case, to be reassured. PCB coating is the same heat resistant resin. It will not be damaged by paint solvent easily.

Is it really that important to remove the silicone paste and the white glue from both sides? Or is it fine to let that be and just renew the thermal compund underneath IHS?

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

This is the whole idea of putting pressure on the silicon die, to restore/keep contacts with the substrate. After 1 year my PS3 still works, this is not a final proof of concept but I believe is getting there.

question ? what did you use to clean up the residue of the paint stripper on the chips, IPA

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Hello, yes, I use IPA for all cleaning on the PCB after soldering or any other action. The dried residue can be first just brushed away, use toothbrush, is the best.

@17:00 do you not need to add a small amount of regular thermal paste on the four small chips that sit around the main chip die? You add liquid metal to the main chip die and it looked like the four outer black chips were left dry of any compound? cheers

@secondlife1970

9 ай бұрын

Memory chips do not need that much heat spreading, the main role is mechanical support. The heatsink is very close so it's enough cooling. The silicon die is the heating issue, the whole BGA module is heating massively from the GPU silicon die

@stevenross-watt8640

9 ай бұрын

@@secondlife1970 thanks for the reply. Looking at the four memory chips they have the residue of old thermal paste. That's why I mentioned it.

@anthonyboccardo2726

7 ай бұрын

@@stevenross-watt8640 You are correct the Rams need thermal paste put back on, they die very quick due to heat and will GLOD/YLOD, this is a wrong method to use. There is a reason thermal compound is used not just for retention purposes on the GPU and IHS.

i have two CECHH04 models, were working fine but after 10-15minutes they overheated. so i replaced its thermal paste with Arctic MX4, they give YLOD as soon as i start them. Not sure if its the 1st level or thermal paste not applied as they should. Got almost 11 Fat’s ready to bring in life (not tested yet whats the problem with all of them) but seems like all of them have overheating problems. Afraid to open more consoles since they YLOD as soon as i disassemble them. It’s there maybe something i have done incorrectly that’s causing the YLOD? (and not forgetting that none of them delided)

@secondlife1970

5 ай бұрын

I believe that de-lid is a crucial step, the paste inside is already dried out and needs better thermal contact plus higher pressure on the silicon die to improve the contacts. Not sure what happen when you disassembly. Pulling hard on the chip top may weaken the already fragile connections. Use any method to soften the dried out thermal paste before any attempt to pull the heatsink away.

Hi for ps3 superslim cech 420can u remove ihg of cpu

Now that is what I call Science...

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

You're too nice, it's just fun fixing things

If i am right i shoul use regular glue to keep that id say methal on cpu in place

Sir, I have a ps3 fat case device. It works on green light. It doesn't display any images. It turns itself off without going into safe mode. I wonder what could be the problem.

@jk-474

Жыл бұрын

More than likely a dead chip, people have also caused what you have by doing this delid incorrectly and scratching the substrate under the die. That happens, your system is “brain dead” as you described

So u did u use any glue on the 4 corners of the rsx cover ?

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Yes I used a tiny bit on the diagonal side, to keep the rsx cover in place. Not directly on the RSX pcb, only on the corner. The glue is shoes type of glue, does not hardens, it will allow deformation.

i have like 10 of those same exact thermal paste syringes.

What is the brand or product name of the paint thinner that you used?

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

I believe any paint stripper ( not thinner! ) will do. They are not strong enough to affect the plastic on the chips, not to mention the metal.

@maskednil

Жыл бұрын

@@secondlife1970 I see. Does the stripper need to be at any particular solution percentage or is any ok? First time using so I'm not sure if it even has such things (I'm thinking more of IPA solution percentage).

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

@@maskednil I hope you watched the video, the paint stripper is only for removing the white glue and not for the silicone on the CPU. The silicone thin cut tool is helped to slide by bubble soap liquid. Paint stripper is not diluted, it's a thick gel. IPA maybe works 99% but it will take forever, never tried. Anyway, it's up to your creativity after all.

@maskednil

Жыл бұрын

@@secondlife1970 I've watched a bit. Will watch in full before I attempt anything practice on a dead board don't worry 👌

can you tell me....why is this silly heatspeader in this place at all ? i think CPU and gpu dierect mounted to the cooler would be a benefit ;) Sorry for my poor english!!!

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Not sure, the design of the 2 chips are like that, with the tin plated copper heatspreader... A better heat transfer would obviously helped, like the liquid metal in the new PS 5.

@beefstickswellington1203

Жыл бұрын

Silicon is fragile and easy to crack. The head spreader allows a more even pressure gradient. Also, playstation has notoriously uneven chips so bare metal might crack it.

@anonhollmuller4032

Жыл бұрын

@@beefstickswellington1203 thank you! I dont even know that the chips are not flat (sometimes) ....and the mounting on the (dont know the right word maybe a cpu Motherboard/// the part that is carry the Chip and route all the pins to their position on the Mainboard) to the soldering area could be never 100% perfect. Now after your comment. i was thinking in an other Direktion. and now i realized , you are right , i was wrong... sometimes the lucky one is the one who could see no wood, because all of the trees....until he Walked in the dark and hit his face bloddy because something stood in the way no matter witch direction he took ;) again please excuse my poor english;) with Best regards!

@beefstickswellington1203

Жыл бұрын

@@anonhollmuller4032 what i meant to say is the IHS spreaders are quite uneven... not sure on the silicon itself, but if you look at thermal paste pattern it indicates high pressure in the center while the outsides are still fully covered in paste. That means maybe %30 good contact while the other %70 is inefficient or ineffective. I switched to graphite pads for this reason on IHS. Silicon should still be liquid metal. This is why so many have thermal paste pump effect and jet engines in a couple months

If you have a ylod ps3 the delid will work temporarily because when you use a heat gun to heat up the cpu,you are basically heating the rsx and nec tokins and it will work between 1 day to 2 weeks

Would 3M adhesive remover be better than paint thinner?

@starkiller7057

2 ай бұрын

How about GOO GONE?

I delis these 2 chips and the artifact is still happening 😞 any ideas what can it be? My ps3 does boot and I do play games but at times it artifacts

@Lollo100

28 күн бұрын

the RSX chip is failing, I suggest you to currently stop playing games with the console and to back up all of your save data, trophies and games as soon as possible. If you have Custom Firmware I suggest you to dump the syscon error log and all the keys that are related to the console. In order to fix the problem you need to get the Frankenstein mod done, in which the RSX gets swapped to a newer, more reliable 65/40nm chip.

9:18 .... Nice... 😂👏👏👏👏

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, pitstop in the Tokin caps.... :)

@alanjamesh.zamorano1677

10 ай бұрын

Ouch... I felt that

That's clever, using paint stripper to delid it rather than use a heat gun and possibly mess up.

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for you comment, that's exactly what I thought, to use the least invasive solution to an already beaten up by heat IC. I noticed the paint stripper can separate the HDD magnets (another video of mine), with similar super strong glue. So I tried for the PS3.

Watching still in End of 2022, but liquid Metal is Not a god Idea, the liquid Metal can float Out and Schortens the IC's... I use from my better half, the expensive nailpaint from Jade 🤫 3 layers on the IC's and the liquid Metal can float a LITTLE Bit , i Not Hope, but i helps

Hey, do you push up or down on the Knife?

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

I tried to keep-it in the same plane as the cut, not up or down. The tip is nice and round but you can still scratch the coating of the chip.

@Dylmix00116

2 ай бұрын

@@secondlife1970 is that ok? if you scratch the floor of the gpu/cpu chip?

13:53 Silver King liquid metal compound

Wondering why no one has tried a sharp, thin razor blade to cut through the glue.

@kiseli1000

11 ай бұрын

I used those thin paint tool and sharpen it with grid 2000. It does job but phone opening tool or one for macbooks screens is waaay thicker and better to cut with.

Bro does doing your methods can solve these issue permanently please reply to me tho

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Hello, there is no guarantee solution other than a brand new PS3. I believe there are good chances to last long time.

What is that ingredient that tools slide?

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Bubble soap, 1$ bottle for kids

Did you damage your ram module at 9:19?

@whitemus3257

Жыл бұрын

That isn't ram. It's a NEC/TOKIN capacitor. Definitely didn't hurt it with that little jab.

that seems a little crazy putting liquid metal on a delidded fat ps3. but still enjoyed the video though.

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Well if they use-it for the PS 5 then why not. It's so little it will never leak away.

@TheMegatron673

Жыл бұрын

@@secondlife1970 the reason why i said that because on the ps5 they have that little sponge thing around the apu whereas the ps3 has nothinhg.

how long will it last tough

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

With much better contact and cooling, the thermal stress should be reduced. I believe better than other solutions. Definitely easier than changing the chip, worth trying.

I can't help but feel plastic razor blades would reduce a lot of risk, speed things up, and would make it easier to scrape things without worrying about gouging surfaces

@beefstickswellington1203

Жыл бұрын

Great tutorial though, not like everyone's doing it

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Yeah man, I'm not everyone :) and the results are not like anyone's ... To respond to your question, the metal razor does the job and I have the fine hand control do do-it. Perfect razor would not gauge the surface if the angle is right.

Can we use WD40 to remove GPU IHS?

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

WD40 will not soften the glue...

@John-eg4ds

Жыл бұрын

@@secondlife1970 So only paint cleaner and sparays that can can dissolve silicon can do it?

@John-eg4ds

Жыл бұрын

@@secondlife1970 and I've seen wd40 regular contact cleaner[not electrical contact cleaner] dissolves white glue but also can destroy motherboard too and not recomended for using on electrical motherboards because it's hard to be removed comletley

i broke one of mine too . accedently cut a wire on cpu chip ..

@secondlife1970

5 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that, it does require a very steady hand, it was more like a surgical precision job, not for everybody.

COK-001 LOL

more like rukky

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

More like a Wookiee...

I have a lightly used CECHA01 model that doesn’t get loud at all and blows out HOT air. I’m wondering if the paste is still doing it’s job.

@secondlife1970

Жыл бұрын

Probably not, you have to check the temperatures on the chips, use the internet to find out how. Custom FW, etc...

@bluestone06

6 ай бұрын

If it wasn’t , it wouldn’t be blowing out hot air.