A Mauser-like bolt, a 1911 grip frame, and a stock designed by Tim Burton.

@zendell37

7 жыл бұрын

Oh if only I could thumbs up on mobile. Go you!

@ddavis5708

7 жыл бұрын

zendell37 are you talking about likeing peoples stuff ?

@toddstark-gokey5774

7 жыл бұрын

zendell37 you can wottt

@MrDgwphotos

7 жыл бұрын

The stock is very reminiscent of a Kentucky Rifle.

@madvilliany1692

5 жыл бұрын

Fuzzy Dunlop with grease-gun style peep hole sights

Published writer: This gun no longer exist! Gun Jesus: Oh ye of so little faith

@mr6johnclark

7 жыл бұрын

Published writer: This gun no longer exist! Ian: Hold my Beer... And Watch This!

@Tinblitz

7 жыл бұрын

It's not the fault of the published writers. Not many know of Gun Jesus' ability to turn lesser weapons into Forgotten Weapons.

@Tinblitz

7 жыл бұрын

This holy artifact, for example, was created from a Mosin Nagant, and four SKS rifles.

@donaldasayers

7 жыл бұрын

Well it is broken.

@stianberg5645

7 жыл бұрын

but it exist. Do not question the miracles of Gun Jesus

"Prototype" "WW1" "50 cal" All the right things!

@danieldeak9141

6 жыл бұрын

Dice you know what to do.

@OgYokYok

5 жыл бұрын

All the right things for it to be a pre-order exclusive for Battlefield One:Two

@rooseveltbrentwood9654

5 жыл бұрын

Dániel Deák dice knows what to do: “how does she taste, where her teeth melting”

"And here we have a one of a kind rifle that was previously thought to be lost to history." "Great, can I take it apart?"... And they said yes!

@codyjackalope8464

6 жыл бұрын

Gun Sense (drmaudio) shooting?

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

5 жыл бұрын

@@codyjackalope8464 well the receiver is broken, and the ammo was only ever experimental, so...

"The grip *IS* the bolt!" ... What?!

@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917

3 жыл бұрын

Its the charging handle yes

@CrudeConduct666

3 жыл бұрын

@@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 big difference

@theEikern123

3 жыл бұрын

Your arm would probably shatter if it was directly part of the barrel

"Winchester" Aw, another old timey rifle like the dozens I've seen... ".50 Cal Antitank Rifle" Let's give this a watch, shall we.

@reganmorben9248

4 жыл бұрын

Uhhhhh... hey dum dum, the name of the channel is forgotten weapons. You clearly want the "Common modern weapons everyone has seen before" channel. Moron shhhhh!

@thomastheisman1751

3 жыл бұрын

@@reganmorben9248 I'm pretty sure I'm seeing sarcasm font here.

@marcusborderlands6177

3 жыл бұрын

@@reganmorben9248 you are aware he looks at normal guns all the time, right?

If you turn the gun around, you can use the sharp edge of the buttstock as a bayonet.

@AxeGaijin

7 жыл бұрын

Would it not be better to take the buttstock off and throw it like a pommel?

@GwyndowsXP

7 жыл бұрын

AxeGaijin End that tank rightly!

@jaxxons11

7 жыл бұрын

AxeGaijin ...God I love Skallagrim's followers...they will never let that die out.

@the_senate8050

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaxxons11 No we won't

Ian,i think you should contact Saint-Petersburg's Artillery Museum, there are hundreeds of extremely unique guns and once of it's kind prototypes, from medievil multi-barrel cannons and late 19'th - early 20'th century semi-auto rifle prototypes to a full collection of Kalashnikov's designs, including his early wartime SMG's. Also stuff like Fedorov's, Mausers 1915 and 1944 SKS prototype that saw action in WW2. I can help you with translation and navigation in the city if you wish.

@alexandriuscomnenus8017

7 жыл бұрын

He will do guns post Muzzle-Action. Given of those , I want to see them all.

@tulsatrash

7 жыл бұрын

I want to see them all. Does that include Korobov's various prototypes?

@HotQgav

7 жыл бұрын

Korobovs would be awesome!!

@ayebraine

7 жыл бұрын

Sadly with abysmal attribution and next to no info written anywhere on the examples, no historic information or concept. Just neat piles and racks of guns in a rough chronological progression. With curt, possibly sometimes incorrect or too vague designations. The museum's artillery and rocketry expositions are way better at this, with background and displays and attribution (it's the Artillery and Signal Corps Museum after all), but it was maddening to looks at so many interesting guns with little explanation on precisely what they are and what their attribution is (and if it's even been done). And no English of course (exhibit cards for most small arms are many decades old). But the collection is great, no doubt - I was amazed to find a brass-plated (or otherwise yellow; again - no explanations or even a simple title card!) air-cooled, pristine early-version Maxim gun standing in the corner, with only ornate engraving on the top (in Russian) telling me that this was the gun demonstrated and gifted by Hiram Maxim himself to the Russian Emperor. Again, no card or rope barrier, nothing.

@tulsatrash

7 жыл бұрын

sounds like quite the job. At least getting Ian there to do some videos on pieces he's able to identify and maybe a video on the small arms collection in general would help raise awareness so that more people can devote time to rediscovering the history of the pieces in the collection before events, records, and people with obscure knowledge are too far gone to retrieve, track down, or interview.

"This design gets forgotten" Perfect

@MrBioniclefan1

6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Allen true

@happyveliz

3 жыл бұрын

Buh dum tsssss

The pistol grip/ bolt assembly looks like the worlds coolest laser pistol!

@ZGryphon

6 жыл бұрын

I knew it reminded me of something, and this comment made me think of what it was. In the original pilot for _Star Trek_ (the one with Jeffrey Hunter), the writers hadn't invented the phaser yet, and the Starfleet crewmen's sidearms were laser pistols--the props for which were made out of, I kid you not, typewriter parts. www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/artoftrek/wahchang-laser.jpg The bolt from this gun is basically that, except from the Badass Dimension. :)

and if it fails, just hammer the tank with it.

@Chaosrain112

7 жыл бұрын

End them rightly.

@leebennett4117

7 жыл бұрын

Chaosrain112 That only applies to pommels

@vaclav_fejt

7 жыл бұрын

Heavy is good, heavy is reliable.

@JonatasAdoM

7 жыл бұрын

Put it in the track it will most likely stop the whole thing.

@REX-gq6ur

7 жыл бұрын

Upgrade yer hammer to +5 then ascend it to wrench.

The bolt and pistol grip assembly look already like a pretty beefy gun lol

@Rick1885

7 жыл бұрын

I know, I kinda wanted him to put a Beretta 92 up to it for comparison.

@visionist7

5 жыл бұрын

Looks like a Star Wars blaster

@pongraczadam828

4 жыл бұрын

Interestingly this is not the last 50. cal to use this kind of bolt

@POTUSJimmyCarter

4 жыл бұрын

You know you've created a good anti-tank rifle when almost any single part of it, if detached, is still viable for bludgeoning a man to death. Case in point: the PTRD.

@ZacLowing

3 жыл бұрын

7:27 I thought the same. Technically you could put a .50 BMG on the end and call it a handgun.

Your .50 cal exploding is the definition of a bad day.

This looks like a weapon that would fit very well in an oldschool fallout game.

@prestngarvey9233

7 жыл бұрын

WalrusJones could you go help this settlement with this rifle....here I'll mark it on your map

@rooseveltbrentwood9654

5 жыл бұрын

it kinda looks like a laser or guoss gun. i know in not spelling that right but hopefully u know what i mean.

@gunfuego

3 жыл бұрын

I concur.

@Earthstar_Review

3 жыл бұрын

It does somewhat remind me of the Wattz 2000 Laser Rifle.

@RatKingTerry

Жыл бұрын

anti materiel rifle

We reeeally need an episode dedicated to the development of the .50 BMG.

I swear this man has a time machine. He's a time traveling arms dealer and thats bad ass

@reganmorben9248

4 жыл бұрын

Ian is not an arms dealer... what a retarded comment to make.

It looks like someone stuck a 1911 inside a tube and got an idea

@jared.p240

2 жыл бұрын

I can actually picture it.

"Take the bolt out, and end them rightly with it!"

@davidbrennan660

3 жыл бұрын

The bolt itself looks like a Star Wars blaster in a Johnny Seven kind of way.

Damn. This would fit an Imperial stormtrooper.

@Menaceblue3

7 жыл бұрын

yet they still wouldn't hit a damn thing...

@Bladsmith

7 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the spread on those stupid blasters?

@blshouse

7 жыл бұрын

There is a case to be made that "Old Ben" was getting a bit senile...

@Bladsmith

7 жыл бұрын

Or that the last time he saw guys in white armor, he was kicking droid ass with them.

@thelegendaryklobb2879

7 жыл бұрын

Could easily pierce through Luke's landspeeder

It's as though the bastard child of a Sterling and a Barrett was banished back in time to 1918, never to be seen again

Any idea if a .50 BMG cartridge would fit into this? Might explain the catastrophic failure, if someone in the more modern times, perhaps the 1940s or 50s got hands on this and tried to use it with a .50 BMG cartridge the pressures might´ve been a lot different. Just speculating. Perhaps when they were making that other, Barrett style rifle they tested this thing again and found it unsuitable.

@loddude5706

5 жыл бұрын

Whoever fired that last round is probably still on the can . . .

@ironwoodnf

4 жыл бұрын

An interesting thought, idk if an out of battery firing would do that kind of damage as I'm no gunsmith, however I'm thinking a bmg would NOT be headapaced for this

@BigWheel.

Жыл бұрын

@@loddude5706 it was Scott

"...it's pretty stiff, so I'm not gonna try jamming it in there..."

@ap1s2k78

7 жыл бұрын

bcinkley417 was hoping I wasn't the only one to notice that lol!

@ironwoodnf

4 жыл бұрын

@Sean Wilkinson Sean buddy, that joke died back in middle school, and I'm 21 now.

Hey Winchester I need help making my gun look as insane as possible! Can you help? Winchester: say no more!!!!

Nice find ! i especially LOVE the use of a 1911 grip frame/panels. A slight revamp of this Mauser based design (eliminate the magazine/cutout, different stock and sights) using modern metallurgy, would make this a highly desirable single shot for the .50BMG enthusiast.

@fdsdh1

7 жыл бұрын

Rob Greene it's like the whole thing is made from whatever the factory had at the time, the sight, the grips, maybe even the choice of action for the design- looks like it might be a cock on closing Mauser action seems familiar!

Seeing the 1911 grip and the way the action is cycled, imagine how cool it would be if you could remove the grip and it's a fully functional 1911

@LJCyrus1

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds even more like something they'd put in Battlefield 1 than just this crazy thing by itself.

It is entirely possible that this gun being damaged is the reason why it still exists and the others have presumably been destroyed.

@amendable5401

10 ай бұрын

The Liberty Bell of Anti-Tank firearms.

As the Cheiftan would say someone had a " significant emotional event"

The buttstock makes it look like an Arquebus..

@kyovalye5942

6 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised I recognize that reference...

First time I've found myself saying "Its ugly & I want it" in the same sentence.

My god...Ian found it...HE FOUND THE THING THAT GOES UP!! 8:41

"in some point someone fired this and it basically went kaboom.." I love that guy xD

That would like right at home in the hands of a Tusken Raider...

When he moved the grip just said "Holy shit." Out loud. Damn

"It's pretty stiff, so I'm not going to jam it in there."

Huh, this one looks like the Mandalorian's disintegrator rifle

@davidbrennan660

3 жыл бұрын

“No disintegrations”.

I'm just gonna watch one really interesting video of Forgotten weapons before going to sleep THREE HOURS LATER

The prop department at Lucasfilm would love to get their hands on that bolt assembly with pistol grip to make a Star Wars blaster

They had a .50cal sniper in WWII that was bolt action take down and was a two man team rifle. the second gut carried half of the rifle and was the bipod during shooting if you couldn't find a good tree. Was still in use in 1979 for support units. I was assigned as gunner for the one for 4th S& T battalion.

Thanx Ian. I really enjoy the prototypes, forgotten, remembered or just not yet known. Always informative and entertaining.

This is awesome Ian, never knew that thing existed before now, thanks!

That sure has an interesting appearance too it. I love that bolt. Very interesting design. Not the first time I have seen the pistol grip used as the bolt handle, but a good clean example of such a system.

That grip/ bolt combo seems like a feature that would have caught on in the earlier battle rifles.

@BigWheel.

Жыл бұрын

Probably isn't that reliable or sturdy in the long run.

I don't watch a whole lot of your videos (because I always busy lol) but mate, when I do I'm never disappointed. Very informative and very interesting. Keep up the good work!

Love your videos man. Always helps me learn something new!!

Fascinating as usual, cheers Ian

When the Anti-tank rifle is secretly a modified 1911 when the bolt is removed.😅😅

That is more than likely my favorite video out of all of them for sure

I saw Winchester 50 cal in the tittle and I immediately thought of a 50 cal leaver action. I am disappointed.

@dualsportrider3221

7 жыл бұрын

Adam Kilby I hope u mean 50 bmg lever gun

@gregbilotta2472

7 жыл бұрын

As long as you can dual wield it, then it sounds good to me

@Wolvenworks

7 жыл бұрын

FUCK YEAH DUAL WIELDING 50 CAL LEVER ACTION GUNZ

@BurnTheNuance

7 жыл бұрын

That would require the "beefiest" action ever lol. Would be insane.

@BurnTheNuance

7 жыл бұрын

dualsport rider Why? There are multiple different .50 caliber rounds. A bmg would almost be impossible to pull off in a lever gun. .45-70, and the Russian lever (1895's) already had massively reinforced actions. A bmg would require an INSANELY strong lever action. Crazy to even think about. I'd rather it be chambered in .50 Beowulf (I think that's how it's spelled not sure if it's "historically" accurate). There's a reason most lever guns are chambered in old pistol, and magnum rounds.

A friend of mine attended gunsmith school down in Arizona, for his project he built a .50 cal single shot rifle. The action was a bit over built I doubt he could ever blow it, he got a commercial barrel that was a factory second from somewhere in the pipeline, the barrel was fluted and one of the flutes was too thin and so was rejected for commercial sale. He had a shock absorber in the stock but the secret to the rifle being shoulder fired was the clamshell muzzle break he built for it. He made several but the best allowed the rifle to be fired from the shoulder and tamed the recoil down to about 12 gauge slug from a riot gun. He had a nice Unertal scope on it, and it was a very accurate rifle for a home built. The trigger was a target adjustable for pull weight so very smooth and llite for accurate shooting.

Excellent content as always

Well that's a great gun to watch on my birthday. Thanks for uploading Ian.

@eisenkrieg553

7 жыл бұрын

Jerry Long Well thank you. I'm 23 now.

Tankgewehr seems to be prehistorical beside this rifle.

Ian, nice Video again!

Ian McCollum unicorn catcher

I dont know why but the pistol grip also being the bolt handle just excited me in ways that i didnt expect.

This seems like a really cool design. I wonder if the receiver's bad day had anything to do with why it didn't go any further as a project. The full grip and trigger as a bolt handle seems like a good idea, but I don't think I've seen it done on anything else.

2:52 thanks for the glimpse of the sight picture.

Just when I thought ive seen everything when you showed us the .50 from ww2, you bring us a .50 from ww1!

You just gave me some info for an Airgun...Problem solved in simplicity! Thank You Ian!!!

I feel like this was inspiration for sci-fi weapons.

love this channel

Congrats on a half million subscribers .

@ForgottenWeapons

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hi there! fisrt of all, nice video as always. Just something that I think would be useful: can you show the handling and the fire position in wich you'd hold the weapons if possible? I'd find that very claryfing, especially for wierd looking handguns that sometimes you show. Keep up the good work!

Looks to me like the force was transferred through the locking lug, into the locking surface inside the frame, and the summit of the circular part of the crack is where that locking surface is, and where the fissure started. I think that's really interesting.

when you talked about needing to disassemble the gun to show how the gun was designed to avoid the trigger being able to fire the gun out of battery, i had a horrible feeling that the next scene would open with the gun disassembled, thereby cutting out an important part of learning about the gun Then I was reminded that this is Forgotten Weapons, a show that is better than that.

very interesting rifle , thanks for the vid sir :)

Actually, that tab that is pushed on by the trigger sticks out far enough to push on it by hand and in a really bad chain of events could probably be bumped accidentally with the bolt forward but the pistol grip still out to the side. That said, the bolt appears to be shaped in a way that it stops the striker from coming forward far enough to fire unless the pistol grip is back in place. And I kinda like the idea of having the pistol grip double as a bolt handle. I might even go ahead and build a lego gun like this at some point.

Yo Ian. Love your videos

I envy you so much. Dream job. Great video as always, keep them coming.

The idea of using the Pistol Grip as a Bolt is so incredibly cool.

WOW I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MAN ITS AWESOME !

That grip/bolt assembly looks like it could be a prototype Forgotten Weapon all on it's own!

Hi Ian, Always enjoy and learn from your videos! Thanks! Have you ever heard of or been to the Davis Gun Museum in Claremore, Oklahoma?

Very cool, thank you!

Seriously, daily forgotten weapons videos makes me have a better quality of life

that grip/bolt combination is neat AF. Were there any other rifles that did that?

I wonder how effective the recoil mitigation system is, when i first saw the stock i thought for sure it would injure the shooter with all that force going straight through solid wood into them

Hey, Buffalo Bill Center of the West! I went there last summer. SO MANY BEAUTIFUL GUNS!

The grip (hand grip) has a near appearance (shape, angle and what looks to me size) of our current AR grip. Just happened to catch my eye and again, by shear appearances only.

@LJCyrus1

3 жыл бұрын

Hands have changed less than guns over the years?

Hi Ian I was wondering if you you could do a video on the Remington model 600. I just bought one and don't see any videos on this sweet little rifle. I am a fan of your KZread channel enjoy watching and learning about the history of firearms.

Have you ever tried to do any reports on the R.W. Norton (Shreveport, LA) gun collection? They have a small number of fantastic guns on display at the Norton Art Gallery. Borchardt(sp?) pistols, tround (triangular round) pistol/rifle, rare titanium pistols and lots more. The Norton personal collection is vast but they only keep a few dozen at the museum. Normal people can't get onto the Norton mansion grounds but I'd bet that you could arrange it. They're nice people, but heavily guarded and if you come within a few hundred yards of their compound, big commando looking guys in suits will meet you in seconds. I wish you'd get in there for us.

It would be really cool to have some gunsmiths and machinists blueprint and recreate these amazing weapons. And see what they can do.

Wow Ian, how does it feel having something so rare in your hands. I would be too scared of breaking it to work to action, let alone disassembling bits of it. Cheers gun Jesus

I love the 1911 grip. I realize it was just expedient way to prototype, but I'd like to think they would keep it.

that is one crazy bolt handle

That 50 looks like what you will see on Road Warriors movie

Link to forum post with a picture of the gun + scope. forums.spacebattles.com/threads/two-more-obscure-american-anti-tank-rifles.382636/

@JounLord1

7 жыл бұрын

Spacebattles, thats a name I haven't heard in a long time.

Note the long handle ("barrel") for extra long upswing.

When the bolt and trigger group is out of the gun it looks like a Star Wars pistol 🤙🏻

Truly forgotten weapon!!!

That is one massive Winchester. Holy cow!!!

First time I have ever seen a trigger assembly and grip be used to pull back the bolt

When that bolt is out of the gun, it looks like something out of Star Wars. It's big enough to be a handgun in and of itself.

I'd appreciate if you post good photos like you do with the auction videos. It gives better detail on the mechanisms.

that stock looks like it came from a rifle from the 1870s. interesting idea of using the handle as the bolt itself. another good find 😀

Love that handle bolt design I don't know why that isn't used more often would be more effeicient in high stress situation instead of fumbling around for the bolt handle straight clock it easy

Now I am not only a Patreon of Forgotten Weapons but also of InRangeTV! :3c

@SexyLilSeaOtter

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, you fucking nerd. You are.

The moment Ian pulled back that bolt, my brain imploded.

Holy Shit! The stock reminds me so frikkin' much of Barbarella's Space Rifle (basically a cross amongst this, a Jezail, and a blunderbuss, with the crossing done by somebody out of his head on drugs or maybe with a bad habit of standing far too close to a strong source of ionizing radiation... I don't think it was ever used on-screen, I'm not sure if anyone had any idea what it would do if they had to show it on screen. I think it showed up in a publicity shot and that was it.

"Pugsley" is such the name. I can see it being either the name of a grizzled officer, like "Sgt. Pugsley," or the name of a lackey who gets called in after a snafu, "Who did this? PUGSLEEEEY! GET IN HERE!"