This is why the death penalty was created.

@hw5716

5 ай бұрын

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

@elspethedwards4222

5 ай бұрын

100% straight to short stay death row. What an awful excuse for a human.

@benediktethunold484

5 ай бұрын

Evil Cruelty on a Disturbing level !😢 😳 😬 💯

@aaronfiddy4260

5 ай бұрын

Definitely

@gailbrown2887

5 ай бұрын

Exactly 🤬

She remembers everything her son did wrong, but nothing that she did. Totally believable.

@Niko-xz5lk

6 ай бұрын

So true

@PlAiNJaNe521

6 ай бұрын

🎯

@pl1763

6 ай бұрын

She studied law. She wasn’t going to admit directly to anything. It’s like that song It Wasn’t Me even if you see it with your own eyes.

@Konekohime22

6 ай бұрын

Facts!! Didn’t even think about that

@kelli7

6 ай бұрын

Totally cruel and sadistic

This freak is probably thinking the child died on purpose to get her in trouble.

@simonasweet9085

21 күн бұрын

You are more than likely 100% correct. What is wrong with this world, my god

@Elizabeth-1970

16 күн бұрын

Makes sense, in her eyes, everything is Timothy’s fault.

@AnaFernandez-jp5uh

13 күн бұрын

This pos is a law clerk. She should know the law and have begged for a plea to avoid this horrific trial. And she had the nerve to take the stand to say she can't remember anything about the torturing and death of her helpless child. Good thing she was a a chronic texter.

@Beautiful_Mess

11 күн бұрын

She didn’t call 911 because she was mad that he was “doing this” to her. She was mad her child died. How dare he die, and leave her to face the truth and consequences. I really despise her, and if there’s any justice in the world, she’ll receive it in prison.

@Gary-lh8pc

11 күн бұрын

pl p

The mere fact that she decided to take the stand, in her own defense, shows what a narcissist she truly is.!

@amandaskywalker7331

Ай бұрын

Yes! This was a slam-dunk case for the prosecution. Most people listen to their lawyers and take a plea to appear remorseful. She thought she could actually get away with it and she thought she could win over the jury. Delusional narcissist who has successfully manipulated everyone her whole life.

@bloodaonadeline8346

Ай бұрын

yeah I don’t know how she thought this would end well for her.

@CSinger-db8tj

Ай бұрын

Forreal,Forreal!!😮

@Macachee

Ай бұрын

I mean it definitely at least shows she has an IQ of a sea cucumber!

@Macachee

Ай бұрын

I mean it at least proves she has the intelligence of a sea cucumber!

Take that water away from this monster

@gingerblair2932

5 ай бұрын

Or like somebody else said she should be in handcuffs like her son Paul was. Maybe they wanted to read her body language,ect.

@lanacorcoran8145

5 ай бұрын

She tortured him with every move He made he never even got a meal

@caitlynm9885

5 ай бұрын

Just like ruby frank a woman with lots of kids and a good reputation, but behind the scenes they are torturing their kids.

@Tee1312Jay

5 ай бұрын

Yes! I wish they could also take away the air she breathes

@Mandaxx25

5 ай бұрын

​@@caitlynm9885Ruby did not have a good reputation. People called out her ab use for years before her son escaped.

When you're 63 lbs you aren't stealing food, you're desperately trying to survive.

@MiaKatharine

4 ай бұрын

which is why he was eating raw meat probably

@mmoro143

4 ай бұрын

Craving sweets and chips and frozen nuggets and refusing healthy food?

@stephanie6851

4 ай бұрын

@@mmoro143 he was autistic, probably only liked certain foods.

@Ash33_

4 ай бұрын

What an astute observation, Sarah.

@mmoro143

4 ай бұрын

Ty Stephanie for pointing it out...people who have cognitive disorders cannot make good healthy choices for themselves, among other they crave sweets and junk food. It is their caregiver's responsibility to "control" this ill self-destructive behavior..to help them by keeping them away from junk (that worsens their condition) and to provide healthy options. If the patient chooses to take it! Blaming a caregiver for doing so and accusing her of starving her child when she locks the source of food to keep her child's cravings under control is rather ignorant, rude, and pardon my honesty, insane idea. Labeling it an abuse and torture is gently speaking "foolish" misunderstanding showing lack of knowledge, experience and willingness to do what is right.🤷‍♀️ it is not justice.

ate the crust off a half eaten burger and was forced to throw it up. she deserves a special place in hell. Doesn’t deserve to spend her years in jail being treated better than her own son was.

@StevenandDonnaMarieslife

Ай бұрын

Facts

@skatiesadiemator5948

24 күн бұрын

And complaining about the food the cold and the lack of entertainment 📚

@decorumgun

12 күн бұрын

if she isn't in protective custody the other inmates are gonna have a field day with her

@jannea4318

3 күн бұрын

Hamburgers have crusts?

@ellamichelle3850

2 күн бұрын

Justice for Timothy she is a monster!!

DISCUSTING!! I hope she rots in jail!

@aletaimmonen1371

2 ай бұрын

Yes yes yes

@LionelWayne-je4vv

2 ай бұрын

Or worse

@Locke86

Ай бұрын

And in hell

@Joanne372

Ай бұрын

She’s disgusting

@pugachevskobra5636

28 күн бұрын

It's actually "disGusting" but yes, I wholeheartedly agree.

When you’re a mom, feeding your kids is so satisfying on a primal, instinctual level. I don’t understand this freak of a woman.

@polly6336

6 ай бұрын

Yep. I understand that, and wasn't blessed to be a mother. This woman infuriates me.

@lucyxxwallace6634

6 ай бұрын

💯

@marisela7825

6 ай бұрын

I can even add to that! When my eldest daughter gave birth to my 1st grandson, she wanted to do everything by the book. She was a first time mom, so she just wanted to do everything the doctors recommended. Well, to me, he was still hungry and the doctors schedule was not enough! So I had bought pre made infant formula bottles. They lived with me at the time, so after she would feed him, I would take him for grandma time and give him more formula!! I hope it doesn't sound terrible, but I felt so much better when I did it. He is 5 now and years after that time I told her I did it and I wasn't sorry then or now! I could never deny my child, my grandchild, or ANY child food! When I cook or feed my loved ones it is always an expression of love. Of course not in unhealthy ways, but keeping them fed is a good feeling to me. I may not be able to give riches or gold but you will never go hungry.

@Cosmicoo82

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, freak she is!!!

@Grammichal

6 ай бұрын

@@marisela7825 I get your general point, but if your daughter was breast-feeding, you were interfering in her milk production and bonding with her baby. Not cool.

The prosecutor is NAILING this despicable woman. Good to see!

@louisehicks3285

6 ай бұрын

AGREEEEE

@ericsbuds

6 ай бұрын

👍👍 edit: anyone catch the prosecutor's name?

@Foreversunshine7462

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree!

@jackiesaunders9013

6 ай бұрын

​@ericsbuds Mr Roberts is the prosecutor

@ericsbuds

6 ай бұрын

thanks :) @@jackiesaunders9013

Shes not crying because shes ashamed of herself. Shes crying because she is being held accountable for her actions.

@SongJLikes

5 күн бұрын

She is crying to manipulate the jury.

I never in my life wanted to beat someone up untill now. I did not know I had it in me. Her talking about trauma.... what about that poor boy... this is the worst human behavior I have ever seen

@AnaFernandez-jp5uh

13 күн бұрын

Ditto.

This woman trying to explain away her abuse is like listening to a pedophile rationalizing his attraction to children. It’s like nail on a chalkboard.

@K9Mike

6 ай бұрын

If that's what the footage says....🤦🏻‍♂️

@RipleyRoo

6 ай бұрын

She is claiming she can't remember crap. Even when prosecutor shows hard evidence ...she is a monster...

@kelly73

6 ай бұрын

That is a perfect way to describe it! She is just evil. When i first started watching I saw her and thought, oh she couldn't have actually done this on purpose...WOW.

@gaiaiulia

6 ай бұрын

I'm 4:20 in and I'm astounded ar her lack of shame or guilt at what she did and so far her testimony is only about dragging her poor son into the bathroom, if that's where she brought him.

@onemanstrash8233

6 ай бұрын

@miahfukinrella007 Wow..I love the way you described this! She is evil…and she feels if she says she don’t remember it’s like it didn’t happen. Liar liar

Love this prosecutor! He is the voice for this child. RIP

@BarBeyDangers

5 ай бұрын

WOWZERS EVE SPEAK

@natashachandler5458

5 ай бұрын

Yes he is

@Godislove00797

5 ай бұрын

Amen 🙏🏽 this soo sad 😢 she's so evil

@charlotteetienne1371

4 ай бұрын

I agrée he makes the jury see how a liar, a monster, an evil she is.

@FazMaTaz

4 ай бұрын

He’s the chief trial attorney in that office. I can see why.

I’ve never felt such hate towards another “person” in MY LIFE.

@lindahoffman2692

Ай бұрын

I KNOW, Right!! I am Shocked at MYSELF for the DEPTH of my HATRED of this CREATURE but I KNOW the Good Lord will UNDERSTAND because THIS THING is NOT HUMAN!!!!! 👺👺

She appears angry that she is being confronted with her actions! Unreal.

@workingman-xl6xh

2 ай бұрын

The only time she is happy is when she gets to confirm how smart she is.

@superpos

Ай бұрын

@@workingman-xl6xh well, I don't know why people think she's smart. She doesn't seem that smart, to me.

@narcissus1111

3 күн бұрын

@@superposIf she was smart she wouldn’t take the stand! Plus she didn’t even know frozen chicken nuggets are fully cooked!

Repeatedly calling her dead son "deceitful and sneaky." She cannot hide her hate for him at all as she tries to paint herself as innocent.

@Melissadacruzz

6 ай бұрын

She really thinks that was an excuse to treat him like she did. What a sick evil woman.

@gingerlundgren-barron3594

6 ай бұрын

She’s very analytical.. and detached

@LaurenWoz421

6 ай бұрын

Yes I noticed this! She SPAT it out of her mouth “he WAS sneaky!” With pure hatred in her face. She probably blames him for where she is now and his own death.

@belindaclark5358

6 ай бұрын

Couldnt have said it better! Absolutely disgusting

@KeepinItRealTv

6 ай бұрын

Exactly she’s disgusting

I have worked with special needs people and this woman makes me sick. Put her under the jail for life, she's pure evil

@pla5730

6 ай бұрын

Ohhhh I'd be pleased if she weren't under the jail.. cuz when she goes to prison her life will be a living hell.. as it should be... Other prisoners hate on this sick shit 😮

@user-ie7ly5vp5p

6 ай бұрын

@Anna-loves-you I totally agree with you.what a sick evil women

@phillipwhite8463

6 ай бұрын

So you got paid to work with kids with special needs? I watched her testimony before Paul. I don’t see the jury going any other way than the obvious. She knows the foster care systems is awful, but her treatment was better? The DA worked this case very well, plugged the gaslighting the defense attorney did. Why the hell is the DA going after Paul is it to force him to testify. Paul’s testimony was a lot believable, but under the evidence, she did the best she could. Maybe she is really is just awful. Not that my judgement really matters in the end, not that’s she has much of a life worth living even getting acquitted.

@justinshades6652

6 ай бұрын

Maybe someone should give her only bread and hot sauce for her stay in jail!

@astrowerm

6 ай бұрын

Add a couple of minuscule sides, and that is a meal in jail​ @justinshades6652

32:12 the way he throws the binder at her in disgust “show me the text messages between you and Paul that shows he was on a hunger strike” 👏🏼 chef’s kiss 🤌🏼

@micheleriedel2267

12 күн бұрын

I don't remember I don't remember is all she knows

On my birthday.. may 17th.. she called him a dummy for wanting to eat raw pancake flour in a cup and punishing him by giving him bread and Tabasco hot sauce. I don’t want kids as a 28 yo and haven’t wanted to but I would have taken this child in a heart beat to protect him from this. Such a disgrace to human society.

@Beautiful_Mess

11 күн бұрын

It’s incredible how this demon of a person can sit there, without remorse, not a tear shed, and just say “I don’t remember”. I pray that Timothy haunts her every single time she closes her eyes. Look at how fat she is. Eating good in jail. Buying $100 in commissary each week. It makes me sick. She had the nerve to say “I didn’t eat the first month in jail”.

She still has anger and hatred for that poor kid. Even at her own trial for his murder, she can’t hide it. Pure evil

@stephaniebach__12-24

6 ай бұрын

She’s angry at him that he died.. she blames him for her getting arrested.. that’s how sick and evil this woman is

@NORTAH85

6 ай бұрын

She truly is pure evil! She remembers everything she did! If she had such memory problems there’s no way she would’ve made it through law school. I can’t comprehend how someone can be so cruel to another human, especially their child!

@uservictory9

6 ай бұрын

If that's what it shows...

@sunnystormy4973

6 ай бұрын

​@@NORTAH85 poor kid...

@srikumar4184

6 ай бұрын

100% agree. What that child has to endure for 15 years! 😢

I have NEVER been so disgusted and infuriated by a total stranger!! The fact that she is STILL lying is absolutely pathetic.

@luiseloraine3181

6 ай бұрын

same ... so much i hope she will be known in jail so bad

@jcr5543

6 ай бұрын

Ugh she’s trying to play “Lawyer “ but she’s not that good at it obviously. She’s tripping over her own lies and the only diction she practices is “I don’t remember sir” No sir I don’t remember! What why what is with the French braids?🤮

@annanimity8310

6 ай бұрын

I think she thinks the French braids make her look innocent ,like a little girl....🤷🏼‍♂️

@angelagazzo9976

6 ай бұрын

Hunger strike again he was autistic does he know what a hunger strike is?? He was sick from no food and bread and hot sauce like he was in a concentration camp.

@user-it3mr9gy8l

5 ай бұрын

Disgusting

Why did the bio father give him to her?! He should be accountable for not keeping track of his care or checking on him.

@PinkyakaAyannaj

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@DomCoreLeon

Ай бұрын

They mentioned he had a stroke so maybe incapable of doing so? Who knows

@PinkyakaAyannaj

Ай бұрын

@@DomCoreLeon Eeic did not have a stroke. He's just a pos

@DaliaDippolito.

Ай бұрын

@@DomCoreLeonhe wasn’t the bio dad. That was her husband. The bio dad sent him back from out of state

@DomCoreLeon

Ай бұрын

@@DaliaDippolito. so who's culpable? The step dad, the grand dad, the bio dad, the government dad... who? It seems like people are desperate to alleviate the BIO mom of agency when she is directly responsible. But all this does is infantalize women

Imagine torturing your child to death then saying you were traumatized. What a monster.

@buzzknudson5707

6 ай бұрын

I believe she’s claiming that the trauma is from her husband having a stroke in January, which roughly coincided with Timothy coming to live with her. but it’s complete horse shit. she likely was abused as a child and became a sadist. abuse on this level is usually passed down through the generations

@katjaxxx7353

6 ай бұрын

all BS, remember she worked for a Judge and heard that mot likely in the court room

@ariston5433

6 ай бұрын

She reminds of. Female Nazi guard at a concentration camp during WW. She got her jolly’s torturing and starving her son to death. She saw her “ final solution”

@Floppyearsmomma

6 ай бұрын

Monster, that's all I keep thinking.

@eileenstehr7680

6 ай бұрын

Crazzzy!!

“You don’t have to take my word for it, let’s play the video”. and “So you admit he didn’t have access to the refrigerator and freezer?” “He was on a hunger strike but you put locks on the refrigerator, freezer and pantry?” This prosecutor is outstanding! He helped her walk into traps of her own making.

@dicephalousss

5 ай бұрын

i love when he calls her out for magically forgetting and also “chicken nuggets are pre-cooked” when she tried to play “he could’ve killed himself eating frozen chicken nuggets” B***H PLEASE

@deborahcooper9085

5 ай бұрын

He was very crafty handling this very evil woman. RIP Timothy.

@warialdasue

5 ай бұрын

Agree

@jcr5543

5 ай бұрын

He was so genuine as well, when he asked her “how long was he in the tub?” She had no answer. I don’t understand this woman, how could she do this? When my daughter was born I was swaddling her and she had tons of onesies under her pjs. And I woke up when she wanted to eat immediately! I wrote everything down. Even though her days and nights were off that was ok cause I just wanted to see her eat with oh dear we had tons of different bottles and if she didn’t like one we would give her another, it’s part of nurturing. That was her baby! Good God he’s in paradise for sure.

@lindsay_in_ak

5 ай бұрын

O

The only time she actually gets emotional is when she references how she didn't eat her first month in jail.......sickening

The most bizarre thing is she sits there and testifies like her punishments were the most normal thing in the world. Evil!

She was STARVING him, and torturing him, but she expects people to believe she was concerned about him eating "something dangerous"!? It's disturbing to know people like this can work in the court system!

@gingerblair2932

5 ай бұрын

Contradicting herself like feeding her 15 yr. old the 2 hottest peppers on planet earth isn't dangerous! She's more dangerous than the peppers!

@kaylariggs5188

5 ай бұрын

Oh, just like she put him in baseball because she felt bad that she didn't get out much to get him socialized. Just like she said she wanted to take him off his meds because "he was like a zombie - it was horrible". Just like she argued, "oh I wouldn't send (my little son) G outside by himself, he was with Paul". LAUGHABLE. Does she actually think anyone believes she has the ability to feel empathy? She has no moral compass. I don't even know why she even TRIES to say this shit. Why even bother? Just take your sentence and go. Smh.

@howlinwulf

5 ай бұрын

Plenty of such people in government jobs. When they have power over people it soon turns perverse.

@Laura-op1bp

5 ай бұрын

It's frightening that she is human. Then again....she isn't. The devil's spawn is what she is

@timeatakacs5633

5 ай бұрын

People in government are the darkest, most disgusting people. Evil people.

She never cries for her son, only cries when she is undeniably shown to be cruel and torturing her son. She only cries for herself!

@thefruitfulfarmhousewithchris

5 ай бұрын

Like a true sociopath.

@leedoulman6027

5 ай бұрын

Not real tears evil 👿 monster

@ivanajuricic3447

5 ай бұрын

She remindes me of Amber H.,the voice..all of it. Pshycos.

@gyptess4794

5 ай бұрын

Did she even throw up? Anyone check the trash?

@thefruitfulfarmhousewithchris

5 ай бұрын

@@gyptess4794 of course not. She pulled the same stunt when she was being arrested.

Out of sight out of mind "Applies to Timothy also,🙄 " 🎤 Great prosecutor!!!!

This poor kid. What kind of monster does this to their own children? She used her son to torture her other son. What a sick woman. Her saying she doesn’t recall these things, is such a blatant lie. She is evil. Absolutely evil.

If she could, I'm pretty sure this woman would demand an apology from poor Timothy for dying and getting her in trouble.

@mildrelugo3642

3 ай бұрын

Pero por que ella puede beber agua, cuando ella le negó ese derecho al pobre niñito?😢😢😢😢

@sadrabbit53

2 ай бұрын

@@mildrelugo3642 Alas, she would have legal grounds to get people in trouble if she's denied human rights. Even if she herself denied them to others.

@Smartiesmmm211

2 ай бұрын

100%

@TheMPC1971

2 ай бұрын

Totally

@juliebrownlie5330

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely. She hated poor Timothy

A child shouldn't have to "sneak" food or toys in his own home. She didn't even supply her own son with basic needs. What a monster.

@tamracummings3303

6 ай бұрын

In the toilet because the child was speaking of was 15 I don’t know why the brother or sister wouldn’t have said something to somebody it’s crazy😢

@sunnystormy4973

6 ай бұрын

poor kid...

@hiarhu746

6 ай бұрын

The truly mindboggling part to me is how she's clearly thinking the jury is going to find her behavior perfectly reasonable.

@darcyholleman9221

6 ай бұрын

I can't say for sure but obviously she had a hold over the older son, most likely long term emotional/psychological abuse and trauma. He was most likely afraid of her. Same thing happens when a spouse is being abused, with long term trauma you feel hopeless, afraid, and powerless.

@ESBEAUTII

6 ай бұрын

When she said toys I was like really?? He was literally living in HELL

The sheer audacity of her ACTUALLY taking this to trial and pleading not guilty. Disgusting.

She was getting off on torturing that child! It’s beyond disgusting.

@berylglynn2725

23 күн бұрын

She did not get off she was convicted I hope she gets her uppance in jail- why is she putting him in the bath at 15 anyway

“I wanted to give him his privacy”… says the psycho with cameras everywhere, including the bathroom, to monitor his every movement 🙄

@leedoulman6027

4 ай бұрын

Yep. Sick so sick

@BIG-SHAQ

4 ай бұрын

She wanted to give him privacy with no clothes on the lower half of his body while cleaning the garage and then standing on his knees with no clothes😢😢😢😢 shes pissing me off.

@jadegrenade8287

3 ай бұрын

But thinks hot sauce in the privates is fine.

@IamAlien-on4kz

2 ай бұрын

Including his bm's. I have a hard time wondering what went thru his mind. He gave up. She's psychotic 💯

@theroxygirl731

28 күн бұрын

Right! She wanted her flying monkey to pour hot sauce on his penis but she wants us to believe she cared about his privacy.

The kid was dying and couldn’t even walk. She dragged him ?WTF?🤬

@fanofthedog

6 ай бұрын

and when he was dying and his mouth was open for air, she called him a dummy.

@unapologeticallyauthentic

6 ай бұрын

He was in the ice bath for 9.5 hrs.

@unapologeticallyauthentic

6 ай бұрын

​@@fanofthedog😤😡🤬😢

@deniseeugene1852

6 ай бұрын

@@unapologeticallyauthentic I am just so hurt for the boy. He suffered so bad. Hunger pains are horrible. Being chained up. Having to ask permission to go to the bathroom. Handcuffed ? Ice baths for hours? I didn’t know this child. But I hurt for him. This one is very painful.

@raindemarre

6 ай бұрын

I totally misread the situation initially. I am now nauseous.

She talks like this is normal. The trauma crap about her is sickening.

can’t believe her entire defense hinged on “ I don’t remember?” How did she think that was gonna work?

So he has 60 seconds to go to the bathroom but then gets abused when he has an accident? She starves him and when he tries to sneak food to survive, he gets punished. This here folks is pure hatred. He couldnt win. What a evil human she is.

@LatishaBlayne

5 ай бұрын

Right poor Timothy had accidents because of her torture she ordered paul to give him the hot sauce. This poor baby could not do anything right right in her eyes. The poor boy was starving and literally dying with his mouth open before her eyes and she had her nerve to say he was faking? 😭

@tracyshaffer4510

5 ай бұрын

She obviously still hates him! Hope she rots in prison

@devilinav7494

5 ай бұрын

Yes, it's so awful. And it wasn't impulsive, it was actions she had to think about ahead of time and then do repeatedly. I agree with the sentence handed down 100%.

@matalenaschuster3252

5 ай бұрын

She is not a human, she’s an animal, even worse! a liar of the first degree!

@MariaLopez-mi4ol

5 ай бұрын

I was traumatized and I don't remember....WT??!!

I’m glad that she had the audacity to testify. The jury got to see a heartless, soulless, evil piece of trash.

@rachela4071

6 ай бұрын

I don't think she comes across like that but okay

@krisnkyle9834

6 ай бұрын

I don't think anyone would believe the I don't remember line

@August-tu1yb

6 ай бұрын

thats the thing about this type of garbage... they really think they are the smartest in the room. thank god she is is so slick she wants to testify and thank god for text messages

@darleneww3670

6 ай бұрын

Yep, she left no doubt she's a sadistic monster.

@user-cs5vn2eg3u

6 ай бұрын

@@rachela4071Lady, let her babysit your kids. You’ve lost it.

What evil looks like.

She gets to drink water in court room and her son never got any . I hate it when she gets to drink water, her child did not get to drink this amout at any time. This is so hard for me to see her drink water . When he so was denied a swallow of water.

THEY SHOULD HAVE SHOWED HER THAT VIDEO! She should have to witness everything she did to that poor boy

@michellecarrera9416

5 ай бұрын

This B makes my blood boil Yes Exactly!!! Play the video !! She's a Damn Moonnsstteerr!!!

@leedoulman6027

5 ай бұрын

For sure

@patriciastrassner4883

5 ай бұрын

She was very aware of everything she did.

@madisonhartwick8114

4 ай бұрын

The only reason, why I’m glad they didn’t is for the jury’s sake. There is enough evidence stock piled against her and everyone knew it. The video should have just caused the jury to need further therapy after this.

@leedoulman6027

4 ай бұрын

For sure but some how she stopped it ,

Isn’t it amazing that she passed the bar while having such a terrible memory!

@dandylion9998

6 ай бұрын

And was able to work for a judge! Maybe with all her “memory problems” someone should audit all her work.

@beautifuldisaster139

6 ай бұрын

she wasn’t an attorney so she didn’t pass a bath or ever taken the bar 🤦🏻‍♀️ she just for a the courts for one summer but she wasn’t an attorney or whatever.. more like a court Secretary

@allieannette3712

6 ай бұрын

​She took the LSAT, people are confusing it with the bar, but she did do well. @@beautifuldisaster139

@deniece0821

6 ай бұрын

​​​@@beautifuldisaster139Actually she had graduated law school and was a law clerk for two different circuit court judges. She had just passed the Bar exam right before being arrested. How she managed all of this is beyond me. Maybe all of her schooling will be usefull after all. She can advise her fellow prisoners pro Bono. 😆

@beautifuldisaster139

6 ай бұрын

@@deniece0821sorry i misunderstood but i watch the the beginning & heard but i thought she just worked at a court clerk so i misunderstood the first video of certain ?s that i watched my bad

“From the sound of it”… “I don’t remember, sir”… “I trust your word there, sir”…. “If that’s what it says”…. “Apparently”…. “Sneaky and deceitful”….. Does she really think people will believe her?.. And she does not deserve that bottle of water she keeps sipping on… She makes me sick… Vile, cold, evil monster

Even a dog will not steal food. ... if he is being fed...if you don't feed your dog he has every right to steal food ...that's not theft

I’ve never hated a stranger so much. Pure evil.

@warialdasue

6 ай бұрын

Same

@Inletwatcher1965

6 ай бұрын

Casey Anthony

@Blake1720

6 ай бұрын

Hope she gets prison justice.

@Blake1720

6 ай бұрын

@@Inletwatcher1965honestly this lady is worse and that’s saying a Lot

@lindaamey3966

5 ай бұрын

She’s a evil awful person. Feel sorry for her son omggg what he went thru

"I was traumatized. I didnt eat for a month". Wow she has the nerve to play victim like this

@Sonworshipper

5 ай бұрын

“Hunger strike”

@malcolmwalker1941

5 ай бұрын

The gall of this piece of crap

@iahelcathartesaura3887

5 ай бұрын

She reminds me of Amber Heard and every other pathological malignant sociopathic psychopathic narcissist, cluster B type etc, that I've ever seen on a witness stand or in an interview after a crime. People can suffer from these disorders and not become entirely monsters! Some of them work hard to understand the issues in their own brain, background and behavior, to get better! And to not hurt other people, certainly not to this premeditated and horrific extent and over long amounts of time! Like I've often heard, the devil and pathology lack creativity. Sickness all becomes the same, and evil people resemble each other. How they do! It all follows such commonly predictable patterns most of the time 😢

@iahelcathartesaura3887

5 ай бұрын

​@@Sonworshipper She was obsessed with this idea of hunger strikes? It seems? I love your screen name!

@Sonworshipper

5 ай бұрын

@@iahelcathartesaura3887 Thanks! ☺️ I cannot believe that was the BEST she could come up with.

The prosecutor did an amazing job. This case is so deeply disturbing

I loved the prosecution lawyer he wasnt taking non of her shit

This monster is really pissing me off. Going to the kitchen to grab a snack IS NOT BEING "SNEAKY" OR "DECEITFUL"....Its just a 15 year old boy trying to eat and NOT DIE. Period. 🤬😡😤

@letsreallytalk9482

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! I have a teenage son and daughter, my boy eats everything in the house, he’s a growing boy! It’s what they do, if they eat it buy more! Sneaking..stealing is just crap it’s food not gold! She is a psychopath who is controlling. I watched a video on ZavGirl where Paul is doing a live of G’s game and it’s the only time you can hear Timothy speak. You can tell he had severe autism, he wasn’t high functioning. But he was so excited, they were so annoyed with him it’s sad. You hear Satan over here tell Paul “Stop recording!” Paul says “I’m doing a live, just recording the game” she says “No turn it off! You can record but not live stream. Shut it off!” She was extremely controlling and sadistic

@user-yo4ju1vj2j

3 ай бұрын

💯💯💯💯

@user-yo4ju1vj2j

3 ай бұрын

Listen to the full text thread on zav girls site. She TORTURED him beyond imagination. The prosecuting attorney took it easy on her compared to what she did

@ajvourakis

2 ай бұрын

Same. And the “hunger strike” nonsense makes my blood boil too.

@CurvyCass1982

2 ай бұрын

​@@ajvourakissame! No teen boy would go a damn hunger strike!

Crazy how she doesn’t remember anything but as soon as she sees a loophole to lie she all the sudden gains her memory back

@stephaniebach__12-24

2 ай бұрын

And she thinks the jury’s not going to notice that

I’m autistic with ADHD and sensory processing disorder. We’re not subhuman. We grow into adults if our parents “allow” it. My heart is broken for Timothy. I would have loved him and cared for him. This woman is truly a monster.

@blues7160

5 ай бұрын

God Bless You! She is an horrific monster

@sylvermoon1745

5 ай бұрын

So, I assume you’re saying this bc Timothy was autistic with ADHD? (Sorry. Not trying to be disrespectful, I just started watching this) It seems to me that she loathed her son. She despised her child. What is broken inside of a mother that she could hate her child so much that she would torture and kill him?

@Happinosis

5 ай бұрын

@@sylvermoon1745 no, that Shanda is a hateful psychopath. Ignorant NTs always use autism as an excuse. If we’re allowed to thrive we can do amazing things. Or just live a life.

@Happinosis

5 ай бұрын

@@sylvermoon1745 Shanda is a monster and Timothy was her scapegoat.

@wisenfunny

5 ай бұрын

@@sylvermoon1745 Why would you ask such a terrible question? Do you NOT take a person for their word?

The most disgusting part is that she justifies all of her actions, because "he was sneaky and deceitful". We need a license to own a dog, but not to parent. What an unfortunate world we live in that allows a defenseless child to endure such torture.

Such a SMART woman..she couldn't remember anything she does, but remembers everything the kid did to try to stay alive.😮

She deserves everything she gets in prison. She’s speaking like she believes she is smarter than the attorney questioning her. She’s evil personified. Timothy’s Dad needs to be punished for sending him to live with her. Everyone failed this child.

@spmince

5 ай бұрын

I am sure she will get some much deserved prison justice.

@QuadriviumNumbers

5 ай бұрын

Keep your misandry in check! This typically manipulative and narcissistic Karen is solely to blame but do keep on venting if it helps.

@diamoniquechanelvalentina2014

5 ай бұрын

Unless he sent him back knowing about the abuse, witnessed and/or contributed to the abuse.....then his only crime is having faith that the incubator would care for him as it should. And I say incubator for lack of a more fitting and appropriate word. Cause truly, being called an incubator is too good of a title for her!

@joditorkelson8649

5 ай бұрын

@@diamoniquechanelvalentina2014agreed!!

@sarahfelsch5465

5 ай бұрын

Awful human

That water she's drinking should be DENIED.. Until SHE REMEMBERS

@ginajones2328

6 ай бұрын

Agree

@emptychair8141

6 ай бұрын

It's why I live in America !!! Third world countries would do it !

@barbarajohnson3576

6 ай бұрын

Hilarious!

@SharonBook

Ай бұрын

Drinking the water is a nervous habit like holding on to a stuffed animal..

@narcissus1111

3 күн бұрын

Just like how she denied it to Timothy! An eye for an eye

She doesn't think it's "appropriate" to look at her child when she's putting him in an ice bath but it's perfectly fine to put cameras in the bathroom to watch him use the toilet

@rebekahwolkiewicz449

2 күн бұрын

And timing his bathroom breaks

Wow. She gets very emotional when recounting how much she suffered in jail, but not when describing the horrible torture and abuse she inflicted on her child.

She’s beyond infuriating!!! Her testimony can be condensed into “sorry Sir, I don’t remember torturing my child to death” WTF…?

@AshleeMarie-tb5fi

6 ай бұрын

But she conveniently 'vaguely' remembers selective parts of conversations that may be something she can use to her advantage, but as soon as something in the same conversation puts her in a bad light, she forgets again. Infuriating.

@christibrown5956

6 ай бұрын

She thinks shes the smartest person in the room - psychopath. Delusional - actually thinks she's believable.

@chiflores2634

6 ай бұрын

@@AshleeMarie-tb5fi fact

@ginapearce5421

5 ай бұрын

She knows exactly what she's doing, she remembers everything except the torture she did to him and MADE HER OTHER SON HELP . She's a sorry excuse for a mother. Doesn't even deserve the title of mother!

@reneedeli989

5 ай бұрын

I know right!

She really has the audacity to say SHE’S traumatized.

@matteframe

6 ай бұрын

Narcissism

@verabolton

6 ай бұрын

@@matteframe Nope. Please stop misusing this word.

@pl1763

6 ай бұрын

@@veraboltondefinitely narcissism involved in the rest of the psychosis of this woman. We all have a little narcissism.

@verabolton

6 ай бұрын

@@pl1763 Absolutely not. Narcissism is a mental disorder and maybe "you all" have it there but not here. This woman has no psychosis, she's more likely a sadistic psychopath.

@irock101402

6 ай бұрын

And the way she started to tear up/break down during her own "trauma", but not a single tear for her poor child. I cannot fathom how anyone can be so blatantly self-centered. She is absolutely evil. The fact that she feels sadness for her herself means she is capable of feeling, she just isn't capable of empathy or feeling for any one but herself. That is just plain evil.

It's amazing how she remembers in detail all the "sneaky" (we're supposed to say, well then, everything you did was justified, let's all go home) things her son did, but can't remember things she did. She remembers how many cabinets doors were open, but nothing how she tortured him.

@bloodaonadeline8346

Ай бұрын

doesn’t understand he was “sneaking” because he would get punished for being curious and he was also literally starving. I wish someone had been there to defend this poor kid.

She could have just not testified and admitted she was guilty instead of making a mockery of the justice system. Wasting tax payers money.

She hated Timothy then and hates him now. She continues to blame this poor child during her testimony for her horrific abuse inflicted upon him. I am so sorry for what Timothy had to endure. May he rest peacefully now.

@Opedd

6 ай бұрын

So bizarre that she only remembers his transgressions but conveniently never any of the messages she herself typed and sent.

@MomBoss369

6 ай бұрын

It’s a weak defence too. Even if she conveniently can’t remember she clearly did all and said all of it.

@shelly1nj41

6 ай бұрын

Im so sick with this case. It is very hard to watch and listen to this evil sick person. Those poor kids. Who is feeding the stroke husband?

@chartroy

6 ай бұрын

@@OpeddRight? Infuriatingly obtuse 😡

@itzflowers4me

6 ай бұрын

My birth giver is the same way with her memory. @@Opedd

Blaming HER SICK, EVIL DEEDS on that poor child.....She is WORSE than imagined.... .TAKE THAT WATER FROM HER

@tromedl

4 ай бұрын

Yeah!! That's what I keep thinking!

@sarahdicastelnuovo4860

4 ай бұрын

Amen to that! She’s one cold b!

@pettywhite

4 ай бұрын

When she said "I can't handle hot sauce" I'm like "pour some in her eyes 😠"

@mmoro143

4 ай бұрын

Imagination, ignorance and assumption lead to anger and revenge. Understanding, knowledge and wisdom heal...what will you choose for yourself all the righteous people?🙏

@tromedl

4 ай бұрын

Those are just feelings that are understandable thinking about the nature of this crime. I doubt any of us are actually revenging anything but her sitting there calmly and sipping water after brutally torturing her son to death is hard to comprehend.

Calling Timothy weird for eating canned food without warming it up!! I just want 5 min alone with her. Maybe even 2 min. If he actually did that it's because he was STARVING!

Sneak food? Sneak toys? This woman is diabolical… so is Paul.

This woman is pure evil. Justice will be served. RIP young man.

@deannawiederhold3326

6 ай бұрын

I have watched many different trials about parents slowly murdering their Children EVIL😢

@Curious-Irish-Angel

6 ай бұрын

I am shocked she testified. Her narsacism couldn't help itself.. Good though, because it's the nail for sure...

@suzyq4982

6 ай бұрын

@@deannawiederhold3326 I wouldn’t be able to sleep ..

This boy was starved and tortured… starved so much that he was eating frozen chicken, raw burger meat, ripping locks off pantry doors, risking his own safety just to survive… the poor lad.. This woman is pure evil.. her tears are for herself and no-one else

@Ritsukaberry

3 ай бұрын

You really believe he did that? She sounded like she was lying about that.

@Ian-Omega

3 ай бұрын

@@Ritsukaberrywhy would she lie about that when it’s obviously evidence that the kid was starving?

@amelie9271

3 ай бұрын

@@Ritsukaberryhe was desperate for food, he was doing anything to try to survive. Why would that be a lie?

@Ritsukaberry

3 ай бұрын

@@Ian-Omega But I thought he wasn’t allowed to move so how did he get access to the fridge?

@Ritsukaberry

3 ай бұрын

@@amelie9271 Read my response to previous person that replied to me.

4 slices of bread with hot sauce. Why didn’t she get the chair ??? My son begs me for spicy things a lot and I’m like noooooo I don’t want u to even try it’s hot. It took a lot for me to let him try hot Cheetos !! What a demon that woman is !!!

@bloodaonadeline8346

Ай бұрын

that sauce is basically a weapon not food it’s concentrated acid.

Sounds like she treated her dog better then her son.😢

NONE of her children speak to her. Her two sisters haven’t spoken to her in 20 years. That speaks volumes.

@sarahmurphy8030

4 ай бұрын

She punched one of her sisters in the stomach when pregnant and she lost the baby.

@lou106

4 ай бұрын

@@sarahmurphy8030WHAT?! I was wondering why her kids and sisters didn’t speak to her

@CatnessStrange

4 ай бұрын

​@@sarahmurphy8030Source

@evieiikari

4 ай бұрын

​@@sarahmurphy8030Source??

@elizabethrodgers8616

4 ай бұрын

Most likely they were " low key" abused. At minimum , verbally/ emotionally abused.

Has anyone else noticed that she hasn't shed a tear over her own son????

@MimiLovesJane

6 ай бұрын

No tears and when she fake cries she can't even get a tear out

@sharonluna1257

6 ай бұрын

The devil has no tears. There all dried up from the heat of flanes😅

@unapologeticallyauthentic

6 ай бұрын

She attempted to shed a tear, but it was about a frozen chicken nugget, and the lawyer shut that down..

@MamaBlisss

6 ай бұрын

She's not capable of empathy. I believe she abused all of her kids😢😢

@user-bt3yf8ob1l

6 ай бұрын

This case with these details make me nauseous

I wonder if people were forced to endure the same treatment they force upon others if they’d think twice before committing such heinous crimes.

Playing the "memory loss due to trauma" card.

Part of her life sentence should have included that she can not have commissary. I can not comprehend a mother so evil.

@jasonhernandez5312

3 ай бұрын

She won't last long in prison

@winterblossom4446

3 ай бұрын

@@jasonhernandez5312 God forgive me. I hope ur right

@motherformerlyknownascoope883

3 ай бұрын

I wish... All she does is beg ppl for money on her jail calls... Also the good thing is now she complains about how cold it is, horrible the food is, how miserable it is in jail.

@elizabeththornton2314

3 ай бұрын

That's exactly what I think ,and her so called friend should be ashamed of herself after hearing all this

@tammystewart7429

3 ай бұрын

People everyday in the USA kill their children through abortion and you don’t think there are sadistic people out there.

The poor kid had Autism and she calls him sneaky and deceitful. Basically abused for having a disability, her own bloody son. This woman is dangerous and should never be released.

@angeleyes2093

3 ай бұрын

The harder part that she continues to call him dummy because he’s autistic…that’s what upsets me

@squnk3613

2 ай бұрын

@@angeleyes2093 Timothy wasnt her son, he was her step son. Which is just as bad but in a different sadistic way.

@cherylbennett7672

2 ай бұрын

Amen!

@davinastanton3865

2 ай бұрын

​@@squnk3613 Timothy was Shanda's son. Paul,Nolan and his sister are children from her first marriage Marriage to Eric Ferguson. Gabriel was from her marriage to Adam who died.

@workingman-xl6xh

2 ай бұрын

He lived without his medications the entire time he lived with Shonda too.

Your commissary tells a different story. You ate better than Timothy ever did.

She clearly remembers his deceit but can't remember her texts.

What was her point for even testifying herself she sounds absolutely ridiculous

@sandraphallphillips

5 ай бұрын

"I cant remember!" I cant believe how cruel!!😪😮‍💨😮‍💨

@vondaholman-carter1286

5 ай бұрын

Stupid

@KiraSieni

5 ай бұрын

Shes a narcassist. She cant help it

@scelesteregina

4 ай бұрын

The defence probably ran out of options

@cathbooth1980

4 ай бұрын

Ikr…not sure why she chose to testify? She now has zero chance of appeal & for someone with ‘an excellent legal brain’ who actually worked in that SAME courtroom with an appellant judge…such a stupid move 🤦🏻‍♀️ I honestly think she believed she was justified in what she did…she’s one of the worst criminals I’ve ever seen

The thought of the poor boy 'sneaking food out of cans' is just heart breaking. I hope this woman has the worst time when she gets sent to prison

@ethelmertz1477

5 ай бұрын

She is there already. I wonder how it’s going January 29 is her sentencing. I hope she gets life with no chance of parole.

@elizabethrodgers8616

5 ай бұрын

She's in jail. Prison will be different!

@purepointgermanwirehairedp8169

5 ай бұрын

That poor child was tortured to death. She deserves life in prison.😢

@blazingstar9638

5 ай бұрын

😭

@barbarahorst1608

5 ай бұрын

She is pure evil .

did she really just say that out loud? "he messed with flash cards and got them out of order" what a bad crime omfg

@trybebill7865

2 ай бұрын

that struck me too. what a criminal.

@stephaniebach__12-24

2 ай бұрын

She’s so evil that she doesn’t even realize how abnormal and shocking her statements are to people

@mr.m325

16 күн бұрын

....and he snuck Toys....oh my

Pure evil is sitting right there. This, folks, is the face of pure evil 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

She tried to give him his privacy??? I'm sorry, but she told Paul to take the shower curtain down so she could watch him while he showered. She's such a liar!

@veronicawilson1048

5 ай бұрын

She’s so creepy also plus evil

@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags

4 ай бұрын

@@veronicawilson1048demonic

@sixpackbinky

4 ай бұрын

I think she’s also a sexual pervert

@guylainelavoie7571

4 ай бұрын

What they did tying him up amounts to kidnapping

@leannefoster3413

4 ай бұрын

Has anyone realized that her nose and her upper lip turns red when she gets upset? Maybe she is a form of pinocchio.

You can see she still hates her deceased child

@ElizmaBadenhorst

5 ай бұрын

Yep, she's upset that he got her in this position. The disgust on her face.

@familyof5728

5 ай бұрын

The way she talks about him is sickening. She absolutely blames him for his own torture and murder.

@trishsavery595

5 ай бұрын

The anger and disgust I feel towards this woman.....for her to sit there and defend herself and what she did is sickening.

Just because someone is “educated”, doesn’t mean they can’t be evil. Some of the most demented people also have an educational background.

IF YOU EVER WONDERED WHAT THE DEVIL 👿 LOOKS LIKE YOUR LOOKIN AT IT .

"I wanted him to stop being decietful and sneaky"..mission accomplished you horrible psychopath RIP Timothy I pray this woman will get her Karma from some mom's in jail.

@leahflower9924

6 ай бұрын

She said he snuck toys snuck them from where

@sandcat66

6 ай бұрын

It's just so sad, so sad poor Timothy. He was disabled FFS

@Shylade

6 ай бұрын

She was so stuck on him being sneaky with never one thought to WHY he felt he had to be sneaky. He was merely trying to survive. Any one of us being starved would be sneaking anything and everything to get something to eat and not die. So strange why SHE was so fixated on food and the control of it. He wasn’t preoccupied with it, she was.

@gingerblair2932

5 ай бұрын

She's just using sneaky as a cop out like justification. Anything to try&put herself on a pedistole.​@@Shylade

This prosecutor does an outstanding job! Forcing her to admit to the torture and lies. Powering through all the "I can't remember " and " I was traumatized". What a horrible horrible person!

@kellym4747

6 ай бұрын

It was very unusual the way she kept saying that, instead of saying yes, that’s a possibility, we did that or no we would never do that….about things someone should never do.

@NORTAH85

6 ай бұрын

She doesn’t have memory issues. She never would have made it through law school if her memory was as bad as she’s trying to convince people of.

@kellym4747

6 ай бұрын

Well, she is claiming she has memory issues related to PTSD, she mentioned that a couple of times, but that is a weak excuse for everything that led up to it. @@NORTAH85

@nathanielovaughn2145

6 ай бұрын

That demon is no person.

@hazelreyes8999

6 ай бұрын

She has selective memory in addition to being a monster.

Her attorney told her to say she doesn’t remember anything because they both know she’s so guilty. She has no right to cry😡 The poor kid snuck food because he was starving. He was never on a hunger strike. That monster woman doesn’t look like she’s missed any meals. Even poor Paul looks mentally and emotionally abused.

@ABlackGirlandHerCoffee

Ай бұрын

I was thinking the same.

Seems her memory improves considerably when it’s a recollection that she feels justifies her conduct.

This is the most disastrous (for the defendant) cross examination I’ve ever seen. There is absolutely no doubt that she will be found guilty.

@_DREBBEL_

6 ай бұрын

Honestly hearing this cross I think they could have charged her much more harshly

@lindanorris2455

6 ай бұрын

and so waht????? They slap her hand and then she has a 4th kid to torture!

@daniel7___

6 ай бұрын

@@lindanorris2455she already has 4 other kids today. But you’re right courts have mercy on women who do this but fathers get the max+max

@missadams1330

6 ай бұрын

💯‼️

@GinaKayLandis

6 ай бұрын

Has she tried to claim insanity?

When she called him weird for eating out of a can that killed me. What a terrible lady.

@terrylcorbin5310

5 ай бұрын

Lady?😮

@sharonpamamull7039

4 ай бұрын

I will never stop being upset over this and here she is being so unbothered

@jay-on2qy

4 ай бұрын

She slipped up so many times, and almost admitted he was hungry. A normal person couldn't even talk about their deceased child this way, calling them "deceitful and sneaky". My God this woman is just wrong on every single level, a true abomination.

@lyndzierugg1242

4 ай бұрын

This monster needed to be prosecuted by the prosecuter in the jessica groves case!

@jay-on2qy

4 ай бұрын

@@lyndzierugg1242 Or Juan Martinez

Every time she tells a lie, her mouth gets dry snd she has to take a sip of water! She has selective memory loss. Horrible person. Horrible choices. She ruined two son's lives. 😢💔🙏

The Judge at sentencing stated , You didnt intentionally want him to die because you needed him to be alive to torture him at your convience . This prosecuters interigation proves the Judge was right " This women is the poster child for the word DISTURBED 💀

@Twinklez63

5 ай бұрын

She's a bonafide psychopath

@dearbonks

4 ай бұрын

How did she find the time to attend law school, and have 5 kids? From the medical problems, she obviously failed to follow any prenatal care. Inbreds?

@ashleysauce1754

4 ай бұрын

😢😢😢

@mmoro143

4 ай бұрын

Let me ask you? How come this "monster" raised well several other (healthy) children? Does she need help and healing or life in prison? Please be honest. How many autistic teens with eating disorders did you successfully raise?

@chartroy

3 ай бұрын

And EVIL

Only a true narcissist would think she could talk her way out of this and convince a jury it was all Timothy's fault

@crossedwires2629

6 ай бұрын

100% Kind of fun to watch in a weird way how she is talking herself into prison for life.

@crossedwires2629

6 ай бұрын

100% Kind of fun to watch in a weird way how she is talking herself into prison for life.

@crossedwires2629

6 ай бұрын

So dumb is the jury and the world, that all she has to do is say "I don't remember" and we will all be like oooooh, okay then, then it maybe didn't happen? We set you freeeeee!

@dianedeferrari3888

6 ай бұрын

Or the brother. Narcissism is the least of her problems.

@dianedeferrari3888

6 ай бұрын

Or the brother. Narcissism is the least of her problems.

This prosecutor is just destroying her

I hope that Timothy knows we all agree that he deserves LOVE, ITS NOT HIS FAULT THAT SHE IS A EVIL WOMAN! SHE HAS NO ABILITY TO LOVE. WE ALL LOVE YOU TIMOTHY ❤😢

God…the sheer gall of her saying SHE is traumatized!

@gloriaflanders3481

5 ай бұрын

She reminds me of Amber Heard.

@m42037

4 ай бұрын

​@@gloriaflanders3481Amber Turd.

@Ace-ke7fq

4 ай бұрын

yet she managed to go to a job, it's funny she knew what she was doing at her job..some trauma..

@elephantdanceparty7917

4 ай бұрын

@@gloriaflanders3481 Totally. She even sounds just like her

@GinaPressley

4 ай бұрын

That really got to me!