Aight peeps let's clear up a few things: - Please don't imply that the game will ever come out - everyone was either let go or moved to other EA projects (and then left EA, mostly). SMS as a legal entity may still exist but that's just a formality. - The footage isn't "new", it's preproduction concept work, so it's not in-game and never was (you can tell by the motion blur), it was just a few variations on movement and fonts and stuff so that we can decide on the game feel. - The part between 2:34 and 2:54 is probably the closest to how the actual game UI looked like, or at least as far as we got with it. - We were meant to do a full hardcore sim, that's why the UI is stripped down and techy - focus on the details, little-to-no flourish. - We really thought PC4 would be the game that puts us over the top - we genuinely believed that we were heading in the right direction with it. - SMS is the best and most important experience I ever had in game development and I miss those fuckers painfully.

@gameovertapes

9 ай бұрын

Holy shit, you worked in SMS? That is sick, it's such a shame this was cancelled, it would have been amazing. And when it comes to the "new footage" title, i meant it as some undiscovered footage that wasn't discussed at all here on KZread. Still, it's crazy seeing someone who worked there in the comment section of one of my vids.

@gargaj

9 ай бұрын

FWIW a good chunk of SMS has now seen this vid :) (we try our best to stay in touch)

@simracer01

9 ай бұрын

@@gargaj That Slightly Mad engine was a beast. Man I'm bummed out to hear this... Yea PJC3 went a little left but I was anticipating a strong return with PJC4.

@gargaj

9 ай бұрын

PC3 was meant to go left (the next console gen was too close so we either waited a year or built a quick experimental game before it), but also wasn't meant to be called PC3. We were vehemently against it, but the decision was made above us and we had no say in it - and obviously couldn't communicate it to the audience.

@simracer01

9 ай бұрын

@@gargaj Hey how can I DM you? Do you have an email address?

THIS IS WHAT IS MISSING IN RACING GAMES TODAY, especially with codemasters games recently, they don't have that uniqueness of the dynamic menus like from older games which made the games a little bit more different

What do I think? It is one of the most interesting and straight-forward UI design I've seen, the whole style feels minimalistic and futuristic enough to make it feel like a proper game from a high level simulation franchise, while still having a strong identity and style to it

Never seen menus THIS good GameOverTapes never fails to impress, As usual.

I hope they bring project cars back, it had the best sounding cars in any racing game I’ve ever played

@Derivedwhale45

Жыл бұрын

Nah it should stay dead to make sure the poison is gone for good n scam artists stay like Ian Bell stay dead

@georgestam1710

11 ай бұрын

True.... I still love driving the E30 in green hell, and listening the pops and bangs during deceleration ❤

@hugocorreia8039

7 ай бұрын

@@georgestam1710mine is the z4. The bmws sound great in pc

lorem ipsum is a place holder text, for those people who wanted to ask

It's just a wireframe concept but it already slaps the hell out of the new Forza Motorsport, that thing looks straight out of a mobile game.

They push pc3 out and then decided to cancelled pc4 with a concept like this💀

@Derivedwhale45

Жыл бұрын

Rightfully so & u can thank me, Blackpanthaa & EA for getting rid of that scumbag Ian Bell n his family of SMS

@MrDjsmooth87

11 ай бұрын

EA's a real piece of crap

@gargaj

9 ай бұрын

Depends who you mean by "they". We (SMS) didn't really have a say in the cancellation, obviously.

@thomas214

9 ай бұрын

@@gargaj I ean EA

@gargaj

9 ай бұрын

EA didn't "push out" PC3; that was still done with Bandai Namco.

i am glad you mentioned Dirt 2, its UI has one of the most fresh designs i have ever seen, not futuristic, neither elegant or all that shit, just pure style, and remember the checkpoint markers that would appear on the road to mark your current time and progress? when you destroyed them, it would dissipate into fragments and they always felt like i hit some sort of foam or sponge, the UI had exactly the same feeling when the particles would merge to show you your data as a driver and the challenges you had to do in order to progress, all of that while Travis Pastrana was talking with you in the background, it was a wonderful experience just from the UI design.

this is so clean, and if Project Cars 4 ever does come out i hope the physics are between sim and arcade kinda like Gran Turismo

@sampritchard3350

Жыл бұрын

So basically pc2

Looks sick! Great looking ui already

I know I am late to this post but for me PC1 is my favorite out of the three. I love the lighting in that one and details like if you are sitting on a road that is a incline and you have the gear engaged the car will sit there and not move, but if you depresse the clutch or put it in neutral the car will start to roll backwards as it should, like in real life. If you're driving a stick and decide to downshift while entering a curve and you downshift in too high of a Rev the rear end will break traction like you would expect in real life at least. I experienced that when driving the BMW M3 in the game. The suface of the tires get diry if you go off the tarmac and better detail in crashes and I actually saw an A.I car wind up being upside-down after crash. Also the engine sounds are better to me in PC1 and I like how the cars handle in this version better. Again I personally believe since the 4K60 patch that came out in 2017 for this version, it plays better and looks better than when it first released in 2015. As someone who owns all of the Forza Motorsport games except for motorsport 8, The car handling after all these years still feel more realistic than Forza and they gave you more tweaks and settings for the controller than Forza ever did.

Vision, Commitment and Proper design style. These are the things that are missing in many racing games today. 100x superior than the bland Forza Motorsport games. Like imagine a GRID 3 with THESE aesthetics!!! and yet Codemasters and EA still refuses to open their eyes...

@ice7223

Жыл бұрын

Forza motorsport is amazing stfu

@GTPlanetFamine

Жыл бұрын

project cars was garbage..the laughing stock of sim racing for year with the fool Ian Bell...a wannabe gran turismo/forza motorsport game trying to force their way into the console space, glad its dead

@b.1570

Жыл бұрын

@@GTPlanetFamine by bland I mean the menus of these games that lost the whole characters. GT4 and FM2 had amazing menu designs. Something that their contemporaries like GT7 and FM7 has lost. At least Project CARS tried to be appealing unlike Asseto Corsa that it's on community had to make their on launcher to just simply avoid it for BAD the vanilla menu is. No music, art style and so outdated just because it's a "sim".

Damn that looks sick!

I thought the project was completely abandoned when EA bought out SMS, and what was left of the team has gone to work on GT Revival.

@gargaj

5 ай бұрын

That's pretty much happened although not precisely - EA did let us work on it for a year before they canned it. Some people did go on the GT game, but only a fraction.

@brett22bt

5 ай бұрын

@@gargaj Thx 4 correcting my slight misrepresentation. I appreciate you providing some first-hand insight. I wish you the best of luck with your current work, whatever that may be. I would love for at least some part of the SMS team to reform in the future. What you guys achieved was next level. The creative experience was simply breathtaking.

@gargaj

5 ай бұрын

There are definitely clumps of SMS people at different studios; as for "reforming", I don't know - GTR is potentially the closest, but I for one am okay with working on something that's not sim-racing for a change. :)

@brett22bt

5 ай бұрын

@@gargaj Cheers Mate. Thanks again for making things clearer. All the best.

The menu its like Assassins creed 2 car version. When Granturismo get to luxury sim approach theme, this will nail the "heavenly simulation" feeling

this is the first video of your ive found, YOU HAVE DiRT 3 MENU MUSIC IN YOUR INTRO ive been trying to find the name, where did you find it?

@gameovertapes

Жыл бұрын

I extracted it from the game files. It's called "Resolution" by Scott Nixon!

good ui, a bit "generically" futuristic, but unique enough to set it apart from gran turismo and forza motorsport

Project CARS 3 despite its MANY flaws. The one thing that really did matter which was gameplay is AWESOME. Well... what I mean by gameplay is the physics, which was its biggest downfall for fans but for me and many newcomers was my favorite aspect. An arcade based simulator, that's really fun but semi-realistic which is how I learned how to drive aggressively on the racing sim for more serious simulation games with the way your character auto-corrects in first person to sliding and drifting. The way FWD, RWD and AWD all feel VERY different. The way the cars sound and WOW they sound fantastic for the most part. The way dynamic weather is handled. The feel and gameplay was excellent, however everything else like story, content and support wasn't there.

@shira_yone

11 ай бұрын

I don't like the shift delay, like you can't shift again immediately after shifting. Could be a safety feature to prevent over reving when downshifting, but it's really my biggest pet peeve about the game. The tire physics are pretty fun, way more enjoyable than FH at least.

@Qimchiy

11 ай бұрын

@@shira_yone Never had that problem. Maybe because I'm on a gamepad and almost always using automatic. I tried playing the game just now with manual shifting using two cars the Jesko with its lightning transmission and a maxed out 1990s NSX with a stock manual transmission. Upshifting = zero delays unless it's a manual car with a clutch. Downshifting + zero delay you just can't spam which is no problem considering downshifting while braking still puts the car near redline anyway. Maybe the no spam is the delay you are talking about to which I definitely prefer having that "delay" rather than locking up the wheels for spamming the downshift which I don't do anyway because of redline which is probably why I never had the problem anytime I did go manual shifting.

@shira_yone

11 ай бұрын

@@Qimchiy I know why it's there (I mentioned it in my initial reply), but I prefer letting myself make the mistake than getting slapped in the face by the game for attempting it; using no assist should've turn off this feature. I use controller myself, and I always try to downshift as soon as possible especially for underpowered cars and something like Honda that have VTEC, so I can keep the power in higher rev range and not dip into the hell that is low rev. The game will ignore your input if you just downshift that few moment too soon, making you waste a few precious millisecond to realize your input was null and you have to press it again to finally make the car downshift; and it's likely that you have to downshift multiple times before a corner so chances of this happening is more than tripled, me saying it's annoying is beyond an understatement.

@gargaj

9 ай бұрын

We intended what became Project CARS 3 as a "sidequel" to PC2, a quick game we put together in a year or so before the PS5 came out, something less "hardcore sim" where we could experiment with a brand new gamepad handling model and maybe appeal a bit more to the "masses". This is why we DIDN'T want to call it Project CARS 3, because we knew it wasn't a "hardcore sim". But then things happened.

@Qimchiy

9 ай бұрын

@@gargaj Please tell me. Will there be a chance, a possibility that the gamepad handling model returns to any game at all?

Question is it going to be identical world

Its very good like very unique

I hope that this concept will be recycled for GTR Revolution, a game were ex members of SMS and the studio of the GTR games are working on in collaboration with Reiza Studios.

@shira_yone

11 ай бұрын

Is he, Christian McMorran, working on the game?

With difficulty all the way up the AI is really smart and challenging in Project Cars 3. Been having a lot of great races.

@gargaj

9 ай бұрын

Project CARS 3 was super fun to work on... Chaotic process (middle of COVID, acquisition, etc), but those playtests were the most fun I had during any game's development.

song feels like cod mw3

i cant wait it , i love pcars 3 .

@gargaj

5 ай бұрын

Don't. It's not in development. This is pre-production concept art.

I'm really enjoying PC 2 on my XBOX SERIES X at the moment.

It's sad what they did to that game after PC2.

tbf if it was destined to continue the legacy of project cars 3 its best that it got cancelled and from the menus i can tell they were trying tu pull off another grid clone like pj 3 it's a shame that they didn't make a proper sequel to pj 1 and 2 which still are incredible games by today standards

@Made1nGreece

6 ай бұрын

the developers said that PC 4 would be a real sim.

EA destroys everything it touches

Wait so pc4 is coming or not?

@TheJakeMG

Жыл бұрын

No.

@Derivedwhale45

Жыл бұрын

Nah it dead along with that scam artist Ian Bell. U can thank me, Blackpanthaa & EA for being heroes for stopping that prick for good

🤨I swear I have seen this video before. A lot more than 3 months ago. Some of the menus look like Forza Motorsports menus. Kinda like Turn 10 got lazy and purchased it. tweaked it a little bit then slapped their name on it 🤔

D. E. A. D.

Hello, the third one was a real disaster, I hope that in the very short future they will make the fourth one official, but, taking the ideas from the second one, which I still play currently, and it's great, I personally am mainly interested in the contents, with a long, intensive career, and with many categories of cars, if then there are also beautiful graphics, Everything is earned, but the content within the game must be the main material, even a few cars, but many circuits scattered around the world.

@gargaj

5 ай бұрын

There will never be a fourth one - or rather, chances are fractional at best.

PC3 is basically the best arcade / Forza-style racer I've ever played. It gets so many things right. No, it isn't a sim. No that's not particularly any major problem. What PC3 was / is got lost in that dumb gamer debate. It shouldn't matter what a game is or who it's for, if what it actually does is deliver. Trust me, as someone that has driven Ferraris for the last 5 years, this is a really authentic feeling arcade racer. Damn shame we didn't get # 4. Even more so considering Forza M's absence from Xbox One platforms.

i think this is the missing game that is needed to be the best because Forza Motorsport is almost boring because of the physics + other racing sim games have other problems { difficult physics } ... PC3 had quite good handling but the time trials were so constrained for time ... if they just stick to racing with pit lanes and no frame drop { like in PC2 } and higher resolution than PC3 ... and no annoying menus that require pushing too many buttons and seeing too many screens between races { like Forza Motorsport 7 } this probably would've been really good and possibly the best racing game ever ... most people quit right before they finish something. i hope they revive it.

While this is great looking, I care more about PC4 being a full sim rather than what PC3 was

@gargaj

9 ай бұрын

It was. We were supposed to keep the PC3 gamepad controls and the car customization, but the rest was building on the PC2 detailed sim. (PC3 was a simplified version.)

@clvtch444

9 ай бұрын

@@gargaj I didn't want that extra stuff, just PC2 but better

If a real project cars revival came to the table, Many, if not most of the big hitters today, would drop thier heads in shame. Especially if it came to consol only!!!! Good bye Gran Turismo 7, hurry up GT8.

Good luck because Forza motorsport will be hard to beat

Kaboom, Cancelled soz, after PC3 exist being different, but It's Deserved

Is this a joke? Ppl praising frecking ....menus?!? Moneygrabbers have easy times attracting the console gameboy herd these years. I don't care about messy menues, how about pinnacle core sim engine? Seems like things have completely stalled here during last decade. 20 years ago participating Formula Simracing with mods improved F1C99-02 ISI engine I had expedted far more progress by now, but seems like it have turned i to marmelade and colors impressions. Which stinks.

i so hope toyota will be in there

And nothing was lost after that shit that was PC3...

menus to crispy to scrap, boot up for PROJECT CARS 4, i not dun pc3 on pc yet but wont take long dun it on Xbox, but steam just wont budge on price, ards🤮bas lol, forza motorsport failed and its not out yet, no vr not classed as sim, turn 10 failed oops and i was looking forward to it, no buy if no vr, am not buying vr headset to play on a screen...