programming language doesn't matter , programming instructor does matter and mike is a great one.

@MaxProgramming

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@Koyi_supremacist

3 жыл бұрын

Mike dane does matter

@user-ef2xl4ol3i

3 жыл бұрын

The best in the industry!

@R_Kurogami

3 жыл бұрын

Yes !

@veeramallavenkateshvenkann6438

3 жыл бұрын

Wonderful concept

*"when You know the concepts, other things are just syntax"*

@Nobodyokbro

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah totally

@poisson6673

3 жыл бұрын

Yupp

@JollyBeJolly

3 жыл бұрын

With that statement in mind, when I am at an interview (initial phone) and they say do you know a language, is it ok for me to say yes even though I have no prior experience with it? I can go learn it after. Just wondering your thoughts.

@harisbashir2719

3 жыл бұрын

@@JollyBeJolly Languages has not much difference .some language are functional , some languages are object oriented but to build a software we have to work on frameworks of that language and in framework there are many other things which we have to learn.

@ChumX100

3 жыл бұрын

Except that languages themselves encourage and in many cases only allow certain concepts or paradigms.

Im a new programmer and this just gives me so much hope!

@hackzgamezyt

3 жыл бұрын

I'm new aswell my suggestion is to learn html and css just to understand how code works with the computer than move up to python and Java or c++(Java python and c++ are very much the same) but start out with html and css just to understand how the whole "coding" aspect a bit better it definitely helped me

@doniyorprogrammer

3 жыл бұрын

same here

@nathanielkunsman6917

2 жыл бұрын

For real tho! This gives me hope too!

@tiagomota4734

Жыл бұрын

@@hackzgamezyt YOu learn css and html and then you go to python?why? for what reason?lol

I'm a simple man. I see a Mike Dane video, I hit the like button.

@tradtruetek

3 жыл бұрын

understandable, Have a nice day

@number1neek

3 жыл бұрын

simp

@sudhakar6933

3 жыл бұрын

HEY are you spidey fan ? me too!

@sylvestervats

3 жыл бұрын

@@sudhakar6933 Haha yes. He's cool

@sudhakar6933

3 жыл бұрын

there is something we can feel with spiderman more than other heroes

Mike could rant about moose and I would listen to him for hours. Simply an amazing teacher

As a beginner I am so happy to have found these rant videos. They are so encouraging to me. And as an artist, what you said at the end really resonates with me! I am having so much fun with it. Thanks for the pep talk 😊

@GiraffeAcademy

3 жыл бұрын

People don't realize this, but coding is more of an art than a science, we need more artists who can code!!

@chloejensen5689

3 жыл бұрын

@@GiraffeAcademy It really is, just using code instead of a paint brush and paint. Artists definitely have a different perspective to bring the table, so I’m excited to see where it takes me.

@user-im7li2ec9s

3 жыл бұрын

This is surprising. I am an artist too! In terms of music drawing ,sculpting, and painting. And I'm learning to code too! I'm have difficulty with it sometimes but honestly, Mike Danes videos have been the only one that explain things to me in a way that makes sense.

@theultimatereductionist7592

Жыл бұрын

​@@GiraffeAcademy If coding were more art than science, then there would be no well-defined concept of "better" or "worse" in coding. There would be no such thing as whether one's code executed or compiled or not. If coding were art, you could just throw random symbols together and it would be just as good as some other combination or arrangement of symbols.

@serenditymuse

Ай бұрын

When you are not a beginner you will know why some of them are bullshit.

I would agree but all the main languages you talked about are all OOP-ish at the very least. Of course they all have the same concepts and while for beginners it's great to learn just the fundamentals of OOP-ish, after a while, different paradigms can teach you to be a better programmer. Sure, Javascript, Python, Ruby, PHP all seem similar cause they are all the same kinda-procedural, kinda-OOP, little sprinkle of functional and all dynamic. Java, C++, Dart, C#, Kotlin are going to be the same since they are all compiled, strong-typed OOP languages with some other sprinkles. The real difference between languages isn't between twins like C# and Java or Ruby and Python who are all basically the same. The differences come when you have only ever learnt Scripted dynamic languages, - Then you learn static typed languages and you learn all about type safety, generics, templates etc. - Then you learn strong-OOP with actual inheritance, interfaces, design patterns etc. - Then you learn some functional language like Haskell, Clojure and you learn about higher-order functions, immutability, recursion instead of loops, type classes etc. - Then you go low level to pure C and learn low level memory management and pure procedural programming, learn Rust and learn about ownership memory management. Who knows what I missed in this enumeration. But yes, beginners shouldn't be intimidated by any of this.

@affieuk

3 жыл бұрын

I would love to find a course that starts to take you down this path, Mike's two rant's have been interesting to me because I've been stuck at the beginner stage, I'm decent enough at it and honestly I've not needed more. That shouldn't stop me from learning and improving. Just not really sure what path to take. The other thought that came to mind was learning I guess 'design processes' to improve code, you can tell I'm know really sure what I mean here :)

@Lumintorious

3 жыл бұрын

@@affieuk It depends on what makes you excited for learning. I suggest you watch a couple beginning tutorials for C/Haskell/Scala/Rust since these are (to me) the most out of the ordinary languages that can teach you about design. If you are good at dynamic languages, try a strong typed one maybe with OOP like Java and try to learn design patterns for it, if you are good on OOP, try C because it is very procedural and it helps you think like a computer, otherwise try Haskell because it will teach you to think of your programs in terms of data flow instead of sequences. If you are way up there in your pursuit of knowledge, I would suggest Scala since it is the most typesafe fusion of OOP and Functional paradigms and probably the most complicated higher level language, especially with Scala3 coming the next few months. TLDR: spend 10-15 minutes looking at tutorials on some of the stuff I enumerated and see what makes your brain go "oh damn thats cool" and dwelve deep into that

@andico6614

3 жыл бұрын

Razvan, esti roman? If yes, then what university are you studying, or what university have u studied? Do you live in Romania? Or did you move? Actually I should have asked you how old you were first.

@5thfloor584

3 жыл бұрын

How important is learning Linux compared to all of these languages? Is bash the same thing as learning "Linux"? I haven't seen an answer for this question yet, I'm hoping someone of your caliber could elucidate this for me.

@Lumintorious

3 жыл бұрын

@@andico6614 Da, sunt. I'm 23. I studied at UVT Timisoara, it's a decent university however I would say just go to university to get the diploma and try to learn what you know to be cool and worthwhile. In university you are taught way too many types of maths and way too much stuff all at once to understand it really. You can learn a language or tech that you find interesting or popular or well paid and learn other stuff on a need-to-know basis, not all at once. I'm still in Romania cause of COVID.

LOVING these rant videos, keep em coming!

am I the only one that can sit and listen to mike ''rant'' for HOURS???

@d8822d

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@bilrebalt5470

3 жыл бұрын

certainly not.

@ryansymons8915

3 жыл бұрын

yes

@marakeshg8112

3 жыл бұрын

Nope.

@ladyViviaen

3 жыл бұрын

yes

I love his teaching. The best coding youtuber explaining everything in detail

When people roast PHP I try explaining to people that PHP is like the main backend in my country So you have more opportunities in the job market

@ImmortalityYT

3 жыл бұрын

I started learning it and I like it so far.

@yungifez

3 жыл бұрын

@@ImmortalityYT exactly

@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece

3 жыл бұрын

It's because of the fact that it's everywhere that it's so trendy to shit on it. If you can't complain about something all day long it just shows that you have no clue about it. Because more spread equals more people reaching enough understanding to complain about it and even before that: getting frustrated because you have to learn it.

Totally agree. I started to realize the same exact thing while going through your courses and learning different programming languages. This is my first comment to you and I just want to thank you alot btw. You helped me alot and you're a great teacher ! I just want to become an online teacher like you very soon, and accomplish what you've accomplished, and help the community. Keep going bro.

I think, as you yourself say, those videos were introductory (quite awesome as well!). Some of us old subscribers to you are ready for introductory topics. I don't know maybe data structures and algorithms - but I trust you more man, whatever it is throw something at us. You're a hell of a brilliant teacher keep doing what you do ( and teaching code with example problems)

@seetsamolapo5600

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry meant to say intermediate topics not introductory

This is definitely true, and in my experience, after starting out with a poorly taught community college class that threw us straight into C++, dropping out and trying to self-study and struggling, and now starting again this semester, 5 years later, in a much better instructed course, the best thing you can do for yourself is learn the concepts before you start learning any language at all. The course I'm in this semester had us strictly writing pseudocode and flowcharts for 3 weeks before introducing a programming language at all, and that has really helped me to grasp the concepts better. Now, the course is introducing C++, but we are still covering new concepts outside of the context of the language before learning how they are implemented within C++. This approach removes the barriers of syntax and confusing symbols and makes it easier to understand the concepts more deeply. That makes applying those concepts and learning a language much easier, and like you said, if you truly understand the concepts, you can implement them in any language, you just have to take the time to learn exactly how.

You are the best coding teacher in the world 🌎 ! I learnt lot from you. Thank you Mike !

Big respect mike! Love your python tutorial, it helped me to step in from absolut zero, like from -273 celsius into coding

Thank you mike for helping us soo much!

Thanks for the video bro! I started with your Html course last year and it was great, thanks once again. keep up the momentum.

Another banger vid, thanks Mike

I'm very new to coding and I'm still early on in your java course. and I gotta say this video is on point because I've been skimming through HTML on some sites and i can understand some of (very little lol) what is going on just by guessing. I was floored that this happened so quick and it has further motivated me to keep going thanks man!!

Awesome to hear my own thoughts said by other people. Even though I've started coding only recently, I am already overwhelmed by channels I subscribed posting same stuff like "Programming languages to learn in xxxx year", and this vid just encouraged me to dump them all and learn only things I choose to focus on.

dude you really cool these videos made me a big fan thanks for the phyton classes

I'm so happy to see a video like this. Learning to code well in any language makes it easier to later switch to another one and learn it's syntax since the basic concepts and logic still remain the same. I just finished studying IT last September and was confused about all the people making different suggestions about the programming language I should learn more about. I really liked Java but people kept discouraging me from it saying ''You should drop Java and go with Python, it's the hottest language on the market''. While I might agree that many job postings are for Python devs I stuck with Java and a month after graduation got a job as a Java developer. Don't regret it, love the language and it's extremely fun to work in.

I like this kind of content, apart from teaching lessons. I appreciate the way you explain your thoughts about programming. I would like to ask Mike and everybody, as a beginner , one of the most frequent problems I've been encounting in learning a programming language is that there are so many things I would like to ask my teacher, things I don't understand, repeat some concept.... but only face to face it could be possible, while following youtube courses on my own I don't have the necessary support to immediately clarify things I don't understand.

I really enjoy what you do, thanks for the great work!

I love the rants, you're the best!

Mike, your English is soooooo CLEAR ❤

ohh man so you are alive!😱 you are the best instructor on YT!! I started learning to code by watching your vid and I recommend ur course for whoever is new to programming.

I just watched your guide about c# which is 2 years old. Now I understand all the stuff when I watch other guides and it's so much easyer to learn after watching that video. you really explain everything so good and I fully understand it while it was my first video I watched. thank you maan

I totally agree with you! Once you grab the basics of no matter what language, you are basically done with others ;)

As a beginner, this video really helped me not get overwhelmed by other programming languages that I am not learning. Your tutorials are the most decent ones I have come across so far.

your way of speaking is like really friendly and I even nod here and there, because of how much I feel as if I'm talking to you in person lol

thanks, u deal with info the same way I do, and I'm glad I can get stuff so straightforward

Loved the rant! You are 100% right my man.

As a newbie these are golden advices. Thank you Mike.

I'd love to see a video where you go over the common core concepts. As a current software developer student, I would be interested to see how versed I am in these concepts.

Yeah, started out with python solo and school teaches C++ so knowledge transferred over quite well. The concepts stay the same but the syntax changes

Wish this had been the first thing I saw. I chose to jump in with your 4 hour C#, I realise I could have picked an 'easier' one now but this is what my company likes to use so its the one I will get to put into practice. Hope the rest will follow. Thanks Mike!

I took a couple programming courses in college that were taught in Java and I'm glad we used it. I've used several languages like python, C++, Scala, Fortran, Matlab, and others, and I think I would have struggled more to get the basics if I had started with one of those instead of Java. While I don't really use Java much, having it as a foundation made the transition to other languages much smoother in a way that I don't think would have been the case for me going from, say, python to C++. Every other language I've used has fallen into one of three categories: it feels extremely similar to Java, it feels like a really sloppy and lazy version of Java, or it feels like a very limited version of Java without all the bells and whistles.

Hey Mike. New subscriber here. Actually it's my first time using a KZread account and first subscription to a channel. You rock bro. Ab.

Yes Mike, Coding is fun, it is a form of art, and "Code is Poetry"!

I'm going into my second year in college and this gives me so much hope. Sadly my classes never use the same few langauges.

I'm a professional programmer and i agree with everything you've said. If there's a language i need to learn or a new project at work I'm not worried because I know I just need the time to apply my knowledge to that language.

How does it come, I curse more often when using ruby?

Personally, I think a strict language is the best way to start. From Java to Python is easier than the other way around.

@ZlothZloth

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. With a type-safe language, you should get told immediately if you've run into a type issue, which I think would be better for learning than waiting until you actually run the program.

What you're missing is that the programming language itself is the easy part, it's the frameworks running on the language and where they are applied that is important. The only reason Ruby is big is because of Rails. Python is big because AI tools like Tensor Flow have traction. That's the hard part of programming is getting familiar with what all the tools and libraries off and the best practices of structuring your code around them. Plus, frameworks change within months time so its a moving target. I had to learn Java to maintain a legacy app, and the Java control structures were easy to understand. It was the lack of decent tutorials for the Spring framework that made figuring out that program a nightmare.

Teaching with humility and empathy is hard to find. I would be fascinated to see your approach in a playlist series covering SmallTalk (Pharo, Seaside, Amber). I would definitely tune in.

Coding is translating. What matters is Math, Logic and a good amount of imagination Coding is translating algorithms into programming languages. In the end everything gets translated to machine code. recently I've learnt to sit down and write pseudo-code before I program and I choose the best programming language/tools for the job later. Thank you so much for the great stuff resources put out Mike 👍 Top Tier

You're a fucking legend, dude. Thank you so much, Mike!

Love love LOVE this man!

You taught me programming Mike. Thank you.

True, I write my prolog the exact same way I write my C++ programs

VERY f**king important. The amount of people (including myself) who spent time debating with themselves if they should learn programming bc they do not know where to start is mind blowing. People think coding is difficult, and it is to an extent, but not nearly as hard as people think. I wish I saw this years ago.

Continue these kinds of rants sir! Thanksss

Thank you Mike. Learned from many of your videos and I realized it's the same basic stuff you cover.

It would be great to have a video explaining the core concepts that you say are common to most programming languages, and how to use them. If we understand the fundamentals of these concepts and where and when to use them, I believe It will make learning a new language just a task of learning the syntax.

Great advice, I do concur... Thank you for this video!

This gives me hope. I'm learning Python at a bootcamp but current work place use C#, was nervous about the learning curve for C#

I’ll wait for the JavaScript topic😁

@MaxProgramming

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@ngoako

3 жыл бұрын

Same😀

@zezooo969

3 жыл бұрын

+1

@ankushchavhan1332

3 жыл бұрын

I also bro

@Fbabali

3 жыл бұрын

He already made a video about JavaScript.

For learning to program, I would agree - my first two languages were Fortran and IBM mainframe assembler. I've lost count of languages I've used since. Once you have a couple languages under your belt, I would say look at the languages that make you think in different ways, as well as those that meet the needs of your problems. It's amazing what you can do if you torture code enough, but just because it works doesn't mean it's good. If you are writing code for anything real, someone is going to have to maintain it. Have mercy on them, because they may be you - and you aren't going to remember what you were thinking 5 months down the road. Writing communication protocols in COBOL can be done. Unless it's the only language you have available on a system, it shouldn't be.

I WILL DEFINITLY TAKE EVERYWORD YOU SAY IT IS TRUE THANKS FOR GETTING ME STARTED IN CODING

Enjoying these videos Mike!

7:25 I'd definitely watch that video. I'm somewhere between beginner and intermediate and I've used a few languages, mainly Python and C but not that much JavaScript, so I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on it.

You've convinced me to go from python to dart as my first language because I love the idea of having my program running on multiple devices

I needed to see this :)

Awesome info bro.. It needs to be said more..

Just found your channel, love your contents Mike. Great Video.

Thanks man. Feel better now after the video. I am complete noob and picked python as my first language but the more videos I have been watching on youtube the more confused I have been getting. now I will stay with python and try to master it first😀

dude!!! u brought me hope goddamn!! i keep saying that java is hard as hell for beginners but people criticized me! please do that video about java. do it do it! 1.2.3 i’m subscribing to this channel right now.

Do you have advice for CS students in college?

They're all so similar. But I do think it matters to learn a more verbose language like Java or C++ because they don't abstract as much away like Python. Although they're a pain to learn at first, it's very rewarding when you then learn something like Python because it's essentially an easier version of what you already know.

@deanjordan6053

3 жыл бұрын

I'm currently learning Python as my first programming language, honestly, I don't care to know every programming language, I just wanna know lots of modules in Python.

@rahulranjan7567

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like programming language is just a way to solve your problems. I will still say learn python. Python helps you to worry less about syntactical errors and more on logic building. You don't have to worry about delimiter and all. If you can achieve in 10 lines what you can achieve in 50 lines in Java, why not save the time required to write extra 40 lines to hone your logic building.Yes I agree CPP is important and one must learn it but prime focus should be learning the concept. Its just like 2 books from different author to explain he same concept.

@catharsis222

2 жыл бұрын

That’s like learning calculus 401 before calculus 101

Very true. The programing language does not matter. What is important is to understand the problem, applying correct logic towards the solution and finally writing in proper syntax of the language you want to use. :)

thank you, needed this

I think you should make a series of just hour-long rants. Any topic, any subject, going on tangents, just roasting stuff that displeases you

Right, Enjoy the journey!!

Thx for rant. I feel better. I'll keep going in learning.

Functional and Logic Programming are quite different btw, just saying. Two examples being, Haskell and Prolog from respective categories. Knowing multiple languages doesn't really matter, what matters is how many paradigms of programming languages we are familiar with and recognizing situations where a specific paradigm would be easier to express your idea in.

Funny, that I should learn so much from the video that isn't a coding tutorial. Thank you again.

Thank you sir.. you are a hero

Hi Mike. I'm a teacher and we're using one of your Pytjhon courses to learn basics with our students. If we want to move to adding a simple GUI...do you have a recommended Library...or some other suggestion for a way for the students to just create simple buttons etc. to go along with your foundations courses skills? Thanks so much for all your series - it is very helpful to both students and teachers who aren't experienced in coding!

Thanks a lot !

As a beginner watching this video, all I could think of was “So you’re saying there’s a chance?” Lol, but seriously it was a struggle trying to pick a language. I have been teaching myself html/css for about 3 months because I want to be a front end web developer. Even though I have some confidence in my selection, there’s still this worry that I won’t be successful because I’m not learning python or something. I will be incorporating JavaScript soon. Thank you for this.

After you learn a lang how do you build something with it. I was learning Ruby and I got to a point I gave up because of Rails.

Exactly, that's why I think everyone should start with assembly ;)

@pauligrossinoz

3 жыл бұрын

Assembly is for _wusses,_ *microcode* is where it's at ... 🤣

@07Flash11MRC

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, bro.. Still too easy. Go for binary and become the Matrix itself!

Depending on where you are searching a job, programming language might really matter

*Very fresh perspective- Love it*

Thank you for sharing this, I feel that Javascript is extremely convoluted to me and has put a damper in my learning experience. I feel that maybe if I learn Ruby/RoR (Which I want to learn anyways) I may get a good programming base.

Hi Mike, when would you say is the right time to jump into your second programming language? Did 1 year of JavaScript and I got my fundamentals down. Now I am learning Python and Django for the backend because my focus is full stack development. But I am riddled with doubts. Some say just stick with JavaScript for both the backend and the front end. You mention in your video programming languages are tools. When do you know deep down if your ready to learn a second tool?

Would really like to see a video for the "In one video" series about Go (Golang)

@daboxguy3848

3 жыл бұрын

Yei Sas. I messed it up.

@diamondplay1486

3 жыл бұрын

Pou se re alexandre

Thanks Mike !

I peaked in my coding skills when I took Fortran in summer 1981 at local community college, ran a programmable calculator into the ground for Physical Chemistry 1983-1984 at college for my BChE Bachelor of Chemical Engineering degree, and took two semesters of C++, summer + fall, 2005, at the same community college. The more years I have put into struggling with coding, the less I know. I know less now after doing coding (I do only Python now) after 41 years of interacting with computers than I did when I took Fortran and C++ in school.

Hey @Mike Dane, nice video. I was wondering what you think about Assembly and Haskell? Would you ever consider making tutorials about those two?

Hey Mike, could you maybe talk about how to practice coding so it will stay fresh in your mind? that would be super great!

Your database design tutorial is the best,

😲👍 Probably the greatest thesis I've ever heard. Count me in!!! I'm with you too. LET'S RANT!!!

The biggest difference between programming languages is efficiency and size, using c to create a program is totally different than using javascript with tons of dependencies and libraries

@ChumX100

3 жыл бұрын

If that would be the case we would all be writing assembly code. Devs usually don't pick the most efficient language, but rather the language they are most efficient with.

@ladyViviaen

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChumX100 that depends on the use case i'd say, there is quite a big difference even between c++ and c when reading in gigabytes of lines in and doing operations on them

@ahmadhadwan

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChumX100 assembly doesnt necessarily makes the program faster C and C++ compilers do a great job at optimizing the code

​ @Mike Dane If coding were more art than science, then there would be no well-defined concept of "better" or "worse" in coding. There would be no such thing as whether one's code executed or compiled or not. If coding were art, you could just throw random symbols together and it would be just as good as some other combination or arrangement of symbols.

As a beginner, I am so lucky to meet you Mike

one year into this and I came to realize that the focus should be in what you want to do: frontend, backend, Data analysis, electronics... after that choosing a language its way easier

I really like your ideas ❤️