How long until Grey gets banned from certain hotels?

@alenasenie6928

11 ай бұрын

Have you seen electroBOOM? He is still accepted in hotels.

@FlexxibleFree

11 ай бұрын

It would make it easier to avoid bad hotels

@Destiny2c0me

11 ай бұрын

To be fair... Grey isn't unreasonable. And a lot of Americans that travel to Europe & stay at the hotel always want the hotel room cold about 16 degrees C. Because in my job, as a cabin crew, a lot of my coworkers cannot sleep in a hot room where the AC temperature is stuck at 25 degrees C, due to this "eco-friendly mode"; we need cold rooms to fall asleep to combat jetlag & prevent fatigue for us when operating flights. They would get very frustrated & order portable fans to be delivered to the room.

@randomviewer3494

4 ай бұрын

@@Destiny2c0methere is a giant difference between 18 and 25c tho. Like my house without ac would barely get 25c in the summer at all.

We had the same issue with the thermostat at a school I worked at. Solution: Hand warmers if you want to get the room really cold quickly. Desk lamp with an incandescent light aimed right at the thermostat for longer times. Works like a charm.

@mrJety89

11 ай бұрын

That is the best one I read so far, and you can pack a light with a long adjustable neck from a dollar store.

@mrJety89

11 ай бұрын

A 40w lightbulb on a long wire for easy access to a connector in a black box for complete shading for when you want to go to sleep. You can attach the box to the thermostat for maximal effect. Bring a 20w lighbulb as well to see which one works best for the thermostat in question. 60w can be a fire hazard. p.s. have a square hole on the side of the box that's the size of the thermostat. Adjust with a knife as needed. This should make mounting "a breeze"

@shadowheartart3898

11 ай бұрын

Thank you!

The AC section at the beginning is pure and prime Grey.

00:00 - 13:55 I know is too much to ask, but i really want a cortex animated of "grey vs the hotel thermostat" !

14:00 "This episode of Cortex is brought to you by the Cortex thermostat tricking hot water bottle"

I used to pack my own shower head and a vice grip with me when going to hotels in order to bypass those annoying anemic water restrictor shower heads.

Ok, so my understanding of it is that in some hotels, the thermostat is mostly fake because the HVAC system is not individual to each room but rather like a whole house system where there's one thermostat that regulates the entire building and they're not turning down the entire hotel for just you. The thermostat in those types of hotels are a placebo. They do literally nothing and replacing it will not fix anything. The hotels you want are the ones with the giant modules sticking out of the wall if you want to be a thousand percent sure you have absolute personal control. Otherwise it's a literal roll of the dice until you get into the actual room.

I've never thought Grey was a robot more than this moment because 16˚C (about 62˚F for us 'muricans) is too damn cold for an indoor temperature.

@FlexxibleFree

11 ай бұрын

Maybe, if you have 20-30°C outside, but when you have 40 you'll get it as low as possible since 16 on the screen doesn't always mean it's 16 in the air

@shadowheartart3898

11 ай бұрын

No it isn't. 16 is a great temperature for inside! Nice and cool, but not enough so that I start feeling chilled

@cnixk2097

11 ай бұрын

​@@shadowheartart389821 is comfortable

@wesleycanada3675

11 ай бұрын

@@shadowheartart3898 In my city 62 is a chilly December day so that is crazy to me

@shadowheartart3898

11 ай бұрын

@@wesleycanada3675 😅 I think I might be part polar bear

It's actually adorable hearing lifelong iPhone users gush about all these cool features, and going hush hush about those secret interactive widget pages, when these have been enjoyed by Android users for years. No negative feelings here, I'm glad the other side gets all these cool features. Good features *should* be borrowed and implemented well!

The colder the better. I would keep my place at

I live how Grey spends the first half of the episode complaining about hotels, and then tries to convinces listeners to visit London for the live podcast😂

6:56 This bit killed me 😂 poor Grey

Grey is so unhinged in this episode and it’s hilarious. (I don’t understand how he can find anything below 20 not freezing.)

@shadowheartart3898

11 ай бұрын

Because 20 is a pleasant "summerday outside" temperature? 16 is good for inside 😂 I prefer 15-16 when sleeping. Otherwise I have to throw off the covers and sleep naked to not feel overheated

@ashleysharkey6406

11 ай бұрын

Oh my God you people were raised by Eskimos! 20 is perfect for sleep. At least 18 for work. 22 is too hot for either.

@shadowheartart3898

11 ай бұрын

@@ashleysharkey6406 😂 Eskimos? Not entirely, though my mom *did* work in Greenland for about 9years (before I was born). My sister was born there 😋 I was born and raised in Denmark, so I guess I'm part viking?

1) Wrap the thermostat in aluminum foil to prevent base station from updating it leaving it to local control. 2) heat the thermostat with some battery powered hand warmer on low so its always running turning the room into a fridge and screw the condensation in the walls as the room becomes a fridge without a defrost cycle. WEEEEEE! XD

I'm with Grey on the thermostat problem.

Not gonna lie I'm with grey on the thermostat tricking water bottle

@CGPGrey

11 ай бұрын

See @MykeHurley? There's a business to be had here!

@moebest

11 ай бұрын

@@CGPGreya tiny electric blanket perhaps

@shadowheartart3898

11 ай бұрын

Yup. I'm going to steal the idea 😅

@MCPhssthpok

11 ай бұрын

I was thinking more of a Faraday cage to isolate the thermostat from the wi-fi

Would a faraday cage work? Wrap the thermostat in aluminum foil to stop the Wi-Fi signal

@mrJety89

11 ай бұрын

Can't block it from the side of the wall though, unless you are prepared to remove the thermo from the wall. So imo it's a 50/50 plan at best. Your best bet is to somehow hack the thermo sensor.

@herrabanani

11 ай бұрын

Faraday cages are hard to make. The bottle method is the most realistic one to me

@OneNvrKnoz

11 ай бұрын

Wrapping something in aluminum foil acts as a faraday cage. Not hard at all

@anewbimproves5622

11 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing but it's probably programmed to remember the last setting until it gets a new instruction. Having said that, the thermostat probably isn't encrypting its communication. If you got a wifi packet sniffer and a raspberry pi, you could probably get it to connect to the pi instead and send it your own instructions. Probably more work than the usb hand warmers though.

@OneNvrKnoz

11 ай бұрын

@@anewbimproves5622 If killing the signal doesn't work, that would be a brilliant next step (and slightly less grey area than replacing the thermostat)!

I really don't understand how you could physically be sweating at 64 F. How did you survive driving through a desert dude?

I support Grey air conditioning scheme. He has rented that air conditioning unit, he should be allowed to use it.

@CGPGrey

11 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@drewcipher896

11 ай бұрын

Rent doesn't mean ownership for a determined period. Grey's request isn't reasonable.

@shadowheartart3898

11 ай бұрын

Agreed

@POVwithRC

11 ай бұрын

​@@drewcipher896But it does mean reasonable use of what is being rented. And boy oh boy buddy, the thermostat and its full range is part of the fuckin reasonability envelope.

Perhaps, if you could not find a suitable word to explain how you are feeling, you could physically write down words of your own choosing yourself, in your journal. Just an idea.

I, unfortunately fail to understand the need of a mood tracker all together.

"There is no universe when there are no maintenance people here on the weekends"...oh dear sweet summer child.

Electric heating pad and some tape ;)

I would 100% buy the waterbottle thing to trick the thermostat lol

I would have said, "bodies start to smell over 16" while smiling politely.

It looks like the live show is almost sold out in 24 hours. If you were thinking about getting a ticket, don't think too long

This is only peripherally related to the topic of this video, but I had a smart thermostat, and I liked to keep my apartment in the northern US cold when I was at work during the day, so it'd be freezing cold when I got home from work, so I could sit in front of the heat vent for an hour or two as the house warmed. Also, I'd crank the heat up higher if I wanted to sit there longer, or any other time I was home and I wanted the warm relaxing bliss of the heat vent, including during the day on weekends. After a while, this caused the smart thermostat to lose it's mind and see-saw the temperature up and down with sheer insanity

18 is hot, I set it to 15.

I’m with Grey, I’ve thought about bringing a Nest thermostat with me to hotels to trick the AC or heating

16 degrees is reasonable. I wish I could set my thermostat to that but I fear the people whom I live with would strike me down if I did.

there is a hack where you can press the buttons in the right order on the unit itself, and put it in a different mode so you can change it to whatever you want. It's a maintenance mode so you can make it constantly blow. youtube can tell you how.

I'm like Grey but with the hotel TV. Don't you dare disable the picture mode options or anything else! I will look up the TV model and how to get into service mode.

Most aircon systems in Europe don't go lower than 18C° by design.

...so, Grey's a villain...

Couldn’t you just make a makeshift Faraday cage to go around the thermostat so that it cannot connect to Wi-Fi?

13:20 Could you use a vape coil to create an electric heater to place right next to the thermostat?

@mrJety89

11 ай бұрын

not powerful enough.

You are having the 10 Year Anniversary show in Hackney but didn’t choose to have it at the Antepavillion? But… SHARKS!

Can we get a T-shirt that says “team indifferent“? The more I listen to this podcast the more I think grey is the spirit animal of mine

I think the mental health app can be helpful to some like Mike, but even for those who're more like Mike than Grey, an app like this may not always be what they need and I see a problem with that. It can give people false hope or false sense of mental health care when it's not doing anything for them. I relate to Grey where a journaling or mental health app would make it worse for me so I may be biased

First potential problem with replacing the thermostat in the room that I see? You have no way to shut off the breaker to the electricity running the HVAC or thermostat, and would therefore be switching out a thermostat which has live electrical running to it. Not the safest situation in the best of cases. LOL Good luck, tho. I'm with you on wanting a room cooler than they typically want me to set it. My advice would be rather to try a nicer chain of hotels? Somewhere like a Ritz Carlton or Four Seasons may have either a) more range they allow on their thermostats (because you're paying for it) or b) better concierge service that will actually accommodate a solution to the problem (because you're paying for it).

@POVwithRC

11 ай бұрын

It's low voltage. Nbd.

@deegee424

11 ай бұрын

@@POVwithRC 🤣

Wouldn't it be better for grey to rent an apartment instead of a hotel room? Or is there some downside about that that i haven't tought about

@mrJety89

11 ай бұрын

Airbnb sounds mouch safer and you can ask the owner if they have air conditioning. but hacking a thermostat is way more hilarious.

Yo, I'm moving from the US to the UK next week. I'm 100% buying a ticket for the live show!

16 is cold to me too, I’m shivering if it’s that cold indoors. p.s. pocket warmer on the thermostat?

So back at college in the 80s, we used to just light a candle under the thermostat. Now a days I would take a USB hand warmer and just hang it under the thermostat... BTW- put a bag of ice on top to make it hotter...

The reason why he asked "why?". Is because 16 Celsius is too cold for a healthy human environment, and it's a waste of power. Normal human operating temperature is 21-24 Celsius. They don't want your room freezing neighbouring rooms either, creating an AC system that battles itself between rooms.

Is there not a reddit thread (or equivalent) for cortex podcasts? I wanted to lurk through more splutions to the Grey thermostat problem.

@clouddweller

11 ай бұрын

I believe they’re all on r/CGPGrey

If you want them to centrally lower it to 16 just take off your cloths, and go to the front desk at the busiest time possible to embarrass them into compliance.

Use a sheet of Mylar foil with a waterbottle and a 3d printed bracket.

I wonder what they would do if presented with a 'why' they were legally required to honor? [ADA in the US, for example]

@drewcipher896

11 ай бұрын

The why is because the request is ridiculous. No thermostat should be set to 60° F for AC.

@shadowheartart3898

11 ай бұрын

​@@drewcipher896that's kinda judgy

@POVwithRC

11 ай бұрын

@@drewcipher896 Nonsense

@POVwithRC

11 ай бұрын

@@drewcipher896 you: "Regulate me harder daddy"

Heating the therrmostat temp sensor sounds like the vest solution

I can’t believe we don’t have a grey review of the magic lord of the rings cards. This is absolutely a Grey top 01 interest

Im going to be the silly American in the room Fellow Americans, 18c is ~ 64F I am from Maine, a state half surrounded by Canada with areas approaching tundra climates If my room was 18C, i would need to wear a hoodie all of the time

I had no idea Mission Impossible: Cold Protocol was coming from CGPgrey

Consider hacking the wifi is probably easier than hacking at the wall (but probably more illegal)

Come back to America Grey turn down the AC as low as you want

My first thought on tricking the thermostat was lighting a candle right next to it. Might be tricky to prop it up next to it

What’s your favourite part of the iOS 17 features

What if Grey brought a small space heater and plugged it in next to the thermostat?

@mrJety89

11 ай бұрын

That would heat up the room as well.

Grey I recommend a sock filled with rice instead of a water bottle for a thermostat tricker. It also works great as a heating pad for sore muscles. Just throw it in the microwave for a few minutes.

@mrJety89

11 ай бұрын

The micro won't heat it up unless it has water in it. And a sock filled with wet rice does not sound very appetizing, or safe. Plus I imagine that most hotel rooms won't have a microwave.

@VerySexyDouchebag

11 ай бұрын

God I resonate with Greys tenacity. I refuse to let a hotel tell ME what's the optimum room temperature.

R's SO, I worked in retail for many years. Guys, I'm sorry to tell you that this particular hell will never end. Every year it's like this. :/

Grey, why not just attach hand warmers to the thermostat?

I would love to develop a small battery powered heater that reads the actual temperature and then heats the air just below the thermostat to influence the AC into staying on when the temp is over the preset value, and modulate the thermostats output continuously.

@Reactor89

11 ай бұрын

Quite double (speaking as an electrical engineer) but I would make sure to have an external temp sensor that can be placed else where in the room so the heater has less influence over the room temp.

Faraday cage…

I can't believe Gray spent fifteen minutes on the thermostat issue and never once thought "I can just wear lighter clothing at the hotel".

@shadowheartart3898

11 ай бұрын

Lighter clothing than tshirt? 🤔

For context 18C is 65F. Grey, you gotta see a doctor

For anyone in the position of hotels being to warm, when they ask why, say it's because of accessibilty issues. if they ask more, which is rude and depending on where you are illigal, you can throw in an autism (which is super likely when you 1. listen to this episode, 2. find it hard to talk to hotel personel, 3. and have sensory issues like these), or just a generic "i have sensory issues", which is true. You are having the sensory issue "to warm" which is super valid. If they still don't want to (or possibly can't), you can ask them what they can do instead to make the hotel more accessible to you in terms of temperature. Screw capitalism, get comfy.

i wouldn't bring a thermostat. Just "hard wire" to cool ! if you manage to get cold, disconnect for a while. BUT make sure you hide this from room or maid service :-)

if it's through Wi-Fi, could you not just wrap the thermostat in some aluminum foil and block the Wi-Fi reception that way?

31:00 just for the record. I stopped the podcast here, to go outside.

Grey, you should build an ice vest. Like those things that cool down computers but for humans. Or robots.

Already had the same problem and I've already dealt with it. Hair dryer is your answer.

Hot water and plastic bottles DO NOT go well together. Try one of those leg warmer things. Cardboard boxes are usually easy to fold up, put in your bag while not "in use", and/or modify as needed. Just saying. lol

@anewbimproves5622

11 ай бұрын

I think Grey meant "hot-water bottle" instead of "hot water-bottle"

@mrJety89

11 ай бұрын

@@anewbimproves5622 And here I thought that he was talking about a sexy plastic liquid container

@anewbimproves5622

11 ай бұрын

@@mrJety89 He probably saved that for the Moretex edit.

I have a fix to your thermostat problem. Step 1) Get an extension cord capable of reaching the thermostat Step 2) Get a night light with a standard incandescent light bulb. Run the extension cord to the thermostat and blue in the lightbulb. The bulb will create a very small amount of heat capable of tricking the A/C into running. If this is to much you can always use a timer for the outlet to turn it on and off. In total you should be spending no more than $25. This works especially well if they have their thermostat in one of those plastic cases. You’re welcome.

Speaking of messing with hotel electronics, have you guys ever seen ElectroBOOM's vacation videos? :)

I don't see how the answer evaded Grey, he taught physics for crying out loud... heat the thermostat, with a USB powered cup warmer. Lightweight, cheap, easy to travel with, not out of the ordinary.

You dont care about us grey remove the expirement it is useless now

if not mostly indifferent, is one mostly unaware?

Grey woke up today and choose violence

Gray... Tinfoil!, Tinfoil shall foil those hotels plans to prevent your thermostat settage! (Wrap the thermostat in tinfoil which will prevent it connecting to the wifi therefore allowing for a more Gray friendly enviroment!)

Idk man $2k for plane tickets? Is a lot much

I'm barely 9 minutes in, and Grey is talking about vandalizing hotel thermostats over a 2 degree (C) temperature difference. My dude...

Why ?

yo

Ahh yes I see

No views after 45 seconds smh

Problems are meant to be solved, and the solution to this one is to go see a doctor.

Grey needing 60⁰ F rooms is pretty odd...

Am I subscribed to youtubers who like to fiddle with the electronics of the hotel or is this a trend in the making? @ElectroBOOM!

@mrJety89

11 ай бұрын

Couldn't find that vid from electroboom. Could you pls. post here the title of the vid?

@MrRofl131

11 ай бұрын

@@mrJety89 There are many, but the one I most enjoy was: Tripping every breaker in Italy

@mrJety89

11 ай бұрын

@@MrRofl131 thx