Problematic F1 Cars - 2009 Ferrari F60

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In a new series where I go over some of F1 teams worst or most underperforming cars I figured I'd start with the first one that came to my mind, the 2009 Ferrari F60. The absolute pinnacle of automotive engineering and innovation. Or at least it could’ve been. Now if you’re already familiar or if you happened to be watching F1 back then, you might be a little confused. After all, it won races! Well, one race, but still.
Piloted by none other than 2007 champion Kimi Raikkonen with Filipe Massa by his side. It may go down as one of Ferraris worst ever cars.
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Пікірлер: 100

  • @zachtan
    @zachtan Жыл бұрын

    At the time, some of us thought that Spa 2009 would be Kimi's final race win

  • @fenhen
    @fenhen Жыл бұрын

    In the last 8 races Räikkönen outscored every driver except Hamilton. What a weird championship it was.

  • @rsoxboy
    @rsoxboy Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, Ferrari was so deep in the 2008 championship fight with Lewis and McLaren that they could not fully devote their resources early into the 2009 project. And because they ran with KERS that year it made it very difficult to implement a double diffuser into the F60. Considering the external factors they could not control, they did not have much a chance for 2009.

  • @patrickcesalestajodywibowo741
    @patrickcesalestajodywibowo741 Жыл бұрын

    This isn't event bad compared to the notorious 2014 Ferrari F1. The car that can oversteer and understeer almost at the same time😂

  • @ozzyferzhh

    @ozzyferzhh

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah this is worse, at least point wise it is, if you apply nowadays' point system the 2009 season is the worst from 1983 to now, by far

  • @helljumpercs3765

    @helljumpercs3765

    Жыл бұрын

    the f14-t wasn't the greatest but the 2014 F1 cars were all bad to drive with a significant cut to rear downforce and a large weight increase due to the hybrid system and the oversteering and understeering was on a dusty track with poor grip

  • @EndriuC

    @EndriuC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ozzyferzhh They scored podiums and even won a fucking race in 2009! They were nowhere near those results in 2014.

  • @nbain66

    @nbain66

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@helljumpercs3765genuinely, every onboard I've seen of the F14T from Fernando and Kimi has some sort of god awful car balance, especially Kimi as it was counterintuitive to his driving style.

  • @iBeerus-

    @iBeerus-

    Жыл бұрын

    F14T or the FIAT

  • @SmokeyBCN
    @SmokeyBCN Жыл бұрын

    the 08-09 change in car appearance was so jarring, it looked like they had regressed a decade in technology.

  • @ventisette.

    @ventisette.

    Жыл бұрын

    They regressed probably even more than that in terms of aero. What a fucking joke.

  • @absoluteunit2424
    @absoluteunit2424 Жыл бұрын

    >Season takes place on Ferrari's 80th anniversary >Is called the F60 Enzo Ferrari is turning around in his grave

  • @EndriuC

    @EndriuC

    Жыл бұрын

    60th year in Formula 1...

  • @Jonas.N
    @Jonas.N Жыл бұрын

    Great video with excellent research, presentation and editing. Definitely earned a sub

  • @AltmannYT
    @AltmannYT Жыл бұрын

    This is an amazing video! Short, sweet and informative! Keep at it!

  • @arkansatriahardiputra9703
    @arkansatriahardiputra9703 Жыл бұрын

    Love this content, keep it up 🙏

  • @p.i.9685
    @p.i.9685 Жыл бұрын

    RB13 was a flop too. Jordan in 2000. All the Jags hahaha - Prost

  • @vettelvekili8679
    @vettelvekili8679 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, such an underrated channel with only 45 subs. Hope you'll be successful very soon

  • @prime_vettel965
    @prime_vettel965 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video really waiting for the next one!

  • @jonnyf1

    @jonnyf1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 🙏

  • @747RacingTeam
    @747RacingTeam Жыл бұрын

    This guy needs more subs!

  • @kerrimartin816
    @kerrimartin816 Жыл бұрын

    Hey! I am one of your first subscribers. Can you do the 2019 Williams car next. God it’s gonna be a long video

  • @itzyaboi954
    @itzyaboi954 Жыл бұрын

    Hey dude this was a pretty good video keep it up

  • @p.i.9685
    @p.i.9685 Жыл бұрын

    good video. Would just add that they were in a mad development race till the last corner of the last gp the year before. The whole spy gate situation didnt help either. Also, if the whole Piquet crashgate had come out when it should (Bernie has since admitted he knew all along) then Timo Glock and his slicks would have been irrelevant.

  • @maxiw.5754
    @maxiw.5754 Жыл бұрын

    Great Video Keep it up with this Good work :)

  • @fkz4155
    @fkz4155 Жыл бұрын

    keep up the good work, great great video!!!

  • @H_WLL
    @H_WLL Жыл бұрын

    Nice vid, subscribed

  • @terrance315
    @terrance315 Жыл бұрын

    For a first time great video

  • @dieg0posada
    @dieg0posada10 ай бұрын

    great vid!

  • @ankitbinesh323
    @ankitbinesh323 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid man👍

  • @jonnyf1

    @jonnyf1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @BakuLH44
    @BakuLH44 Жыл бұрын

    underrated channel

  • @TeamRedWolf11
    @TeamRedWolf11 Жыл бұрын

    This is great thanks man can I suggest the 2000 or 2001 Jordan and Benettons or the 1998/,9 prost and arrows cars

  • @Sticktothemodels
    @Sticktothemodels Жыл бұрын

    1:20 they also helped continue Ferrari’s dominance in 2003 with mid season tyre changes that effectively won them the championship

  • @kHz33

    @kHz33

    Жыл бұрын

    and even then Kimi only lost by 2 points, with one more DNF than Schumacher.

  • @nikitamedvedev4696

    @nikitamedvedev4696

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kHz33 with 2 more. One of them by a cooked engine while comfortably leading, another by carnage with help by Wreck-it-Ralf Schumacher himself.

  • @everettmadsen4265

    @everettmadsen4265

    11 ай бұрын

    So Ferrari cheated because the FIA stopped their opponents from cheating? makes alot of sense. They did not simply change the tire rules on a whim to help Ferrari. The Michelin tires were not in compliance with the regulations. Had they been in compliance all year long, Ferrari and Michael would have won both championships more comfortably.

  • @dylanburston7453

    @dylanburston7453

    9 ай бұрын

    They didnt change the rules, they just caught Michelin cheating and enforced them.

  • @theiceman7590

    @theiceman7590

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@everettmadsen4265Excuses, Michael still had several lackluster performances himself in that year that had nothing to do with tyres.

  • @mattfgln
    @mattfgln Жыл бұрын

    I believe that F60 was all that the evolution of the concept started around 2003 (iirc) could bring. they could not squeeze any more bit of performance from that starting design and it could not be evolved to be enough competitive with the new regulations

  • @GoldHunter606

    @GoldHunter606

    10 ай бұрын

    It really does have that same tub doesnt it

  • @thatoneguy7191
    @thatoneguy7191 Жыл бұрын

    Nice channel!

  • @irvin-up4698
    @irvin-up4698 Жыл бұрын

    Great video.

  • @BambinoBimbim
    @BambinoBimbim Жыл бұрын

    Cant wait till you get big bro, im sure of it!

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 Жыл бұрын

    Aside from a lack.of refinement in the aerodynamics, a big problem with the F60 was the driveability of the car. Unlike McLaren, the only other team to record a win (two in their case) with KERS, Ferrari mounted the Motor Generator Unit and Energy Store for the system under the fuel tank. On paper, this kept the heavy weight of the KERS equipment as low in the car as possible. But in reality, the car was unpredictable to drive as the centre of gravity varied depending in the fuel load. While Massa and Raikkonen could cope with the characteristics, as you'd expect from two high quality drivers, the awful injury for Massa in Hungary and the ban on in season testing led to the driveability issues coming to the fore. Long time Ferrari test driver, Luca Badoer, after Michael Schumacher ruled himself out due to a neck injury, was drafted in for the following race in Valencia. What little onboard footage of him at the wheel of the F60 exists, shows how unprepared he was for stepping up with no chance to drive the car before Valencia. The result was in both Valencia and Spa, Badger had the unfortunate distinction of being the first Ferrari driver to qualify and finish last for races on pure pace. But even when he was replaced by the star driver from the Belgian Grand Prix, Giancarlo Fisichella, the third driver of the #3 Ferrari didn't qualify better than 14th for the rest of 2009 from Monza to Abu Dhabi

  • @kgtomi
    @kgtomi Жыл бұрын

    Man, how do you only have 130 subscribers?

  • @drivingduck2234
    @drivingduck2234 Жыл бұрын

    Great video for firt time

  • @MDE_never_dies
    @MDE_never_dies Жыл бұрын

    You have alot of potential. Be sure to remember me when you make it!

  • @jonnyf1

    @jonnyf1

    Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate that, thank you!

  • @TheChosenFailure
    @TheChosenFailure10 ай бұрын

    1:48 well in 2007 they didn't win by a lot at least until McLaren was disqualified, Raikonnen won by 1 point over both the two mclaren drivers, mclaren lead the constructors but then due to some scandals McLaren the team ended up getting 0 points for the season.

  • @bas2354
    @bas2354 Жыл бұрын

    The video is dope

  • @crystalracing4794
    @crystalracing4794 Жыл бұрын

    Kimi won in that car. It's mental.

  • @citoante
    @citoante Жыл бұрын

    They have still not recovered since 2009.

  • @jotti7045
    @jotti7045 Жыл бұрын

    How on earth was this Video recommended? From a creator with 26 Followers? I liked it and will follow you from now on 😊

  • @swampthing94
    @swampthing9410 ай бұрын

    Is it a coincidence that the 2009 car began performing much better when Ferrari had to listen to Kimi when developing the car? Mid-Lipe was never built to be a champ

  • @perfectman3077
    @perfectman307710 ай бұрын

    The car was noncompetitive because Ferrari had been used to test their developments on track which was mostly abolished by 2009, and their computer simulation technology was light years behind Red Bull's.

  • @dasgtr
    @dasgtr11 ай бұрын

    A poor car when it came to results, and was a catastrophic failure considering its championship-winning predecessors, the F2007 (WDC/WCC) and F2008 (WCC). The F60 could be seen as a stripped down F2008, equipped with KERS and adapted to the 2009 regulations. The car initially lacked any of the novelties that defined '09 season. Was this down to lack of imagination due to Ferrari being so heavily committed to developing the F2008 right until the final race of '08 season(?) The F60 was also subject of a relentless development campaign that saw many micro upgrades that allowed Massa and Raikkonen to get decent results, with the race win in Belgium being the highlight. The Ferrari F10 benefited from this development until it too was caught out by the novelties of 2010 season, and was left playing catch up to Red Bull. Nevertheless, the Ferrari F60 has aged amazingly well. The clean, sleek and elegant lines of the car contrast heavily with the cars that followed. It is far and away the best looking Ferrari of the (09-16) 'skinny wing' era.

  • @joelschmuland1769
    @joelschmuland1769 Жыл бұрын

    Damn massa hit that wall HARD. How did he not break his wrists too??? Look at how violently he hit while holding onto the wheel. I know he had MAJOR head trauma…. I’m assuming it knocked him out so he probably unconscious when he hit the wall…. And that probably saved his life TBH

  • @Jordanmilo

    @Jordanmilo

    Жыл бұрын

    He was awake. You can see skid marks behind the car.

  • @emanuele_074
    @emanuele_074 Жыл бұрын

    Can you talk about the rb11?

  • @sebz7248

    @sebz7248

    Жыл бұрын

    Same, would love to have more insight on that car. Such a struggle year for redbull

  • @kerimca98
    @kerimca98 Жыл бұрын

    Nice description, the last one 😂 You know there are tags for that by the way, not that you should stop doing it

  • @bartomiejczerwinski5897
    @bartomiejczerwinski5897 Жыл бұрын

    There was no wheelbase regulations in 2009 (or in any year up to 2022). If cars were shorter, it was for performance reasons. Also, Massa was hit by a spring, not a shock absorber. Your description of Ferrari's changes in F60 conflates the changes forced by regulations with those decided by Ferrari. It was not Ferrari that decided to remove much of the center element from front wing, it was FIA. All cars were like that.

  • @mihirdeshmukh2007
    @mihirdeshmukh2007 Жыл бұрын

    Didn't know that the F60 was faster than the 08 car, I thought the 2009 regs slowed down the cars, like 2022 regs. A little feedback, maybe talk a little bit slower when you are talking about one thing for long. Otherwise I like what you are doing, good luck

  • @ventisette.

    @ventisette.

    Жыл бұрын

    No, the increase in mechanical grip from tyres and massive decrease in drag offset them. That said, the 2009-2016 aero rules were a fucking joke.

  • @mihirdeshmukh2007

    @mihirdeshmukh2007

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ventisette. hmmm interesting

  • @XTR_NEELAN
    @XTR_NEELAN Жыл бұрын

    how do you have only 49 subs imma make it 50. Nice Content ❤‍🔥

  • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
    @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Жыл бұрын

    To my eyes one of the best looking Grand Prix cars of all time

  • @f1o18iwi9
    @f1o18iwi9 Жыл бұрын

    subbed ;)

  • @jonnyf1

    @jonnyf1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @alexheeren889
    @alexheeren889 Жыл бұрын

    the no tyre change rule was stupid

  • @gchetail
    @gchetail10 ай бұрын

    You said Ferrari won both 2007 championships by a lot. But Kimi won by 1 pt. and McLaren was DQ'd afterward. Is that wining by a lot? Great video nonetheless.

  • @dylanburston7453

    @dylanburston7453

    9 ай бұрын

    Technically they scored over double the points of 2nd in 2007, which was sauber

  • @ivanquellobelloxd6940
    @ivanquellobelloxd6940 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, but 2010 car was "competitive" for only Fernando, i think he was in his prime that specific year.

  • @jonnyf1

    @jonnyf1

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point! Thanks for watching

  • @p.i.9685

    @p.i.9685

    Жыл бұрын

    Massa would have won in Hungary.

  • @N1tr0u5

    @N1tr0u5

    Жыл бұрын

    i'm more convinced 2012 is fernando's best performance. the 2012 ferrari was a lot more underwhelming and he still took the title fight to the last race like he did in 2010.

  • @GoldHunter606
    @GoldHunter60610 ай бұрын

    Cars are problematic when they are slow but sexy

  • @joela6542
    @joela6542 Жыл бұрын

    you should do the 2009 McLaren

  • @timo6312
    @timo631210 ай бұрын

    I think the 2020 Ferrari would be interesting to look at. I have always wondered why it was so bad.

  • @Hammertime4404

    @Hammertime4404

    10 ай бұрын

    Mainly the underpowered engine and a mis calculation with the aerodynamics

  • @dylanburston7453

    @dylanburston7453

    9 ай бұрын

    They designed it to have the "totally legal" 2019 power levels (if not more) so put a boatload of Aero on it to just power through the drag that would create. In the super secret deal, which wasnt that secret because it was obvious (have a shite engine for a year) they had a car with no power AND alot of drag. and to top it off most of the tracks where it would have been half decent (monaco and Singapore especially) were cancelled due to covid.

  • @timo6312

    @timo6312

    9 ай бұрын

    oh thank you @@dylanburston7453

  • @timo6312

    @timo6312

    9 ай бұрын

    gotcha thanks @@Hammertime4404

  • @predator931
    @predator931 Жыл бұрын

    The way Americans say "Ferrari" is so funny, "Fuhrawree"

  • @dermotmcmulligan1574
    @dermotmcmulligan157410 ай бұрын

    2007 they won the drivers by 1 point and lost the constructors Your comment there wasn’t correct otherwise great video

  • @aaradhyamargi5181
    @aaradhyamargi5181 Жыл бұрын

    Who forgot the BMW F109

  • @idkanymoreuwu
    @idkanymoreuwu Жыл бұрын

    sorry felipe

  • @drfeelgood94
    @drfeelgood94 Жыл бұрын

    How about the 2009 McLaren? A very poor car in it's own right.

  • @bosleygoldberg7247
    @bosleygoldberg7247 Жыл бұрын

    One of the most Beautiful car though no

  • @jumi9342
    @jumi934210 ай бұрын

    Ferrari builds mediocre cars at best most of the time

  • @diogosimoes3618
    @diogosimoes361810 ай бұрын

    Bro… please… It’s called a front wing ffs

  • @patrickkenworthy7454
    @patrickkenworthy7454 Жыл бұрын

    Oh god you need to stop saying splitter

  • @sharylsimon9365
    @sharylsimon9365 Жыл бұрын

    😭 *Promo sm*

  • @ElMoShApPiNeSs
    @ElMoShApPiNeSs Жыл бұрын

    Speak slower.

  • @jonnyf1

    @jonnyf1

    Жыл бұрын

    Whatever you say bigfatcock

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