Pro vs Beginner Lightroom Editing! (everyone should try this)

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In this week’s episode, we discuss the differences between pro and beginner photo editing in Lightroom. If you happen to be in a rut with your photography, unhappy with your rate of improvement, I'd highly recommend going through this exercise. It's difficult to see how much we've progressed when all you see is where you're currently at with your photography. And, in this video, I re-edit one of my favorite landscape photos from when I was a beginner and compare the results at the end in order to determine how far I've come with my own photo editing skill set. I hope you enjoyed this week's video and as always thanks so much for watching! - Mark D.
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  • @MarkDenneyPhoto
    @MarkDenneyPhoto Жыл бұрын

    🌟QUICK QUESTION: Are you a Lightroom user?

  • @liamditchburn

    @liamditchburn

    Жыл бұрын

    yes, not very good though

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    @@liamditchburn Well we all start out that way:)

  • @gregorboyd

    @gregorboyd

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gregorboyd 👍

  • @GJSsongsmith

    @GJSsongsmith

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes Mark , every day pretty much , improving all the time I hope ! Help from your good self and some others on KZread have greatly accelerated my learning . Many thanks 🙏

  • @johnharkness6095
    @johnharkness6095 Жыл бұрын

    I found this video extremely educational. I loved how you showed us your step-by-step process and why you make certain edits. It was VERY eye opening! Great job!

  • @brandonmjohnsonphotography
    @brandonmjohnsonphotography Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Mark! It has been a while since you've done one of these types of videos. I really liked it. It's amazing to see your progress. Keep it up man! I learned several things in this video. I love how you retouched it the 2nd time.

  • @roycezeiler1536
    @roycezeiler1536 Жыл бұрын

    I'm about 2.5 years into photography and I did this exercise sometime last year and I was blown away with the difference with some of the photos I used. More local adjustments has been the biggest game changer for myself. Love your videos and they have been a huge help! Thanks Mark!

  • @noelmallia
    @noelmallia Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for let us know about this idea and a big well done for this great video

  • @traceycholin857
    @traceycholin857 Жыл бұрын

    This is a great way to see where you are going not only with editing but also photography. Part of the changes we see in our editing process can also be related to current trends and editing program capabilities.

  • @TavitaRaks
    @TavitaRaks Жыл бұрын

    Wow! That's a huge difference! I've only started to play with local changes here and there but I'm beginning to find that they have become more and more essential as I get into trying to do more realistic and artistic editing. This was incredibly informative as I don't really know how to intersect masks and I have never seen anybody actually do a workflow like this. Very very interesting, and I intend to try this myself the next time that I can sit down to edit! And yes, I use Lightroom almost exclusively. So Lightroom tutorials are very important!

  • @marydean9900
    @marydean9900 Жыл бұрын

    I love this idea! I did learn a couple of things watching you edit, I never thought to do all my local edits first. I will try this approach and see how it goes. Thanks for the great tips Mark!

  • @cynical1952
    @cynical1952 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video Mark and what a great comparison. There is always so much to learn and thanks for sharing.

  • @davidrobbins4852
    @davidrobbins4852 Жыл бұрын

    Love this video-one of my favorites so far! Keep up the awesome work!

  • @GavinDavidson
    @GavinDavidson Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic tips, thanks Mark.

  • @willypaul70
    @willypaul70 Жыл бұрын

    Great exercise Mark. Always good to learn from our past mistakes and gauge our growth over time! Thanks.

  • @johnscott1372
    @johnscott1372 Жыл бұрын

    I just wanted to say thank you for all your informative videos. I appreciate all your effort. You have helped me tremendously over the years with my editing as well as composition. I always liked photography but I didn't fully commit to learning the craft until 4 years ago. It was intimidating until I found people like yourself on youtube willing to help the new guy along. I've spent the last several hours going through old edits from years ago when I didn't even know what it meant to do a local adjustment. WOW! You have sent me down a rabbit hole I my never climb out of LOL. Thanks Mark, keep up the great work!

  • @carlmcneill1139
    @carlmcneill1139 Жыл бұрын

    It's always fun to go back and re-read edit old photos after you've learned new techniques or after the software has been updated to make editing better.

  • @annbiswas8956
    @annbiswas8956 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Your edit is simply amazing! Loved to watch this and listen to your thinking as you decide on each choice. Thanks for sharing your process! And, yep, I'm a Lightroom user.

  • @nancymatheson8602
    @nancymatheson8602 Жыл бұрын

    Such a good reminder, and dandy little LR tutorial. Thanks.

  • @jatflash
    @jatflash Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @marcusoutdoors4999
    @marcusoutdoors4999 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this, very useful

  • @raymondjobin7673
    @raymondjobin7673 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome idea!

  • @Bull8magn8
    @Bull8magn8 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this Mark :) I have not had the motivation to do any photography for the past 3 months due to chronic back pain, which has led into depression. Just watching this video has motivated me to charge my batteries and I shall be going tomorrow. I find you to be the one photographer that I can actually sit and watch without skipping to parts, full of knowledge and charisma and a joy to watch. Thank you again :) I'm off to watch your other tutorials now.

  • @mediamannaman

    @mediamannaman

    Жыл бұрын

    Chronic back pain sucks! It is inspiring to read that you are fighting back and picking up your camera again. Hope you had a good shoot.

  • @wildsagestudios7258
    @wildsagestudios7258 Жыл бұрын

    Love this thanks

  • @alfkeh
    @alfkeh Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, great content. Just started to use the mask tool more intensive and this helped a lot.

  • @rlfisher
    @rlfisher Жыл бұрын

    Mark, your videos inspire me each week. I almost *always* like the result better when I rework old images!

  • @davidkelly1427
    @davidkelly1427 Жыл бұрын

    you were right your edits now are way better all down to your experience over time and how much you have improved over the years Super video Mark. Thank you

  • @milanchristi7939
    @milanchristi7939 Жыл бұрын

    I'm really glad I found your channel!!

  • @robryan1507
    @robryan1507 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent. Really learned a lot,

  • @richardpesce5325
    @richardpesce5325 Жыл бұрын

    Another really interesting and useful video Mark. Thanks!

  • @anneforbes8214
    @anneforbes8214 Жыл бұрын

    This is a fabulous lesson, Mark. I have committed all of those post-processing sins in the not so distant past. You have given me the tools to look again and improve my masking techniques. Heartfelt thanks!

  • @MikeAndCindyJones
    @MikeAndCindyJones Жыл бұрын

    This tutorial is fantastic. Thank you

  • @Suhailkhan53
    @Suhailkhan53 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant work indeed 😊

  • @michellewesson4409
    @michellewesson4409 Жыл бұрын

    You explain the process with clarity and I can actually follow and understand. I saved this for reference. Thank you for sharing.

  • @mikebartow9415
    @mikebartow9415 Жыл бұрын

    Yes I use Lightroom but a self taught through the helpful instruction of users like you. Your input has been most extremely helpful!😊

  • @frankoley6826
    @frankoley6826 Жыл бұрын

    What an amazing difference. I can't wait to try this on a few of my old pictures, I have just the shot in mind! Thanks for another great video!

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for checking it out Frank!

  • @wimscheenen3535
    @wimscheenen3535 Жыл бұрын

    Great suggestion to go back to an old photo for editing comparison. And super editing tips, very clear explanation!

  • @shivaakrish
    @shivaakrish Жыл бұрын

    Final comparison was just wow!

  • @dsfarag
    @dsfarag Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video Mark, thank you.

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you think so David!

  • @richardduckworth859
    @richardduckworth859 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark for a great video. I have used local adjustment quite a bit but after global adjustments. I’m going to try your approach on some older photos. One thing I have noticed is that I use much less sharpening and saturation than I used to....I guess everyone overdoes those in the beginning.

  • @2002ec
    @2002ec Жыл бұрын

    Wow, I love this. Comparing yourself to your old self. It’s also inspired me to change my photo editing methods to more local edits. I’ve never done much local edits unless I had a specific reason for it. This is great Mark!

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear you enjoyed it!

  • @TavitaRaks

    @TavitaRaks

    Жыл бұрын

    Same!!

  • @Fessoid

    @Fessoid

    Жыл бұрын

    why English is around being old? basically you compare yourself to young self, not to 'old' self )

  • @Hutchyp69
    @Hutchyp69 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Mark, I watched your latest video this morning and I felt that I'd had a similar issue with masking on a few occasions. I just used the Intersect Mask with Luminance Range technique and I was impressed with the results - I'll definitely use that again! Thanks for the great video.

  • @indrajitadvani3742
    @indrajitadvani3742 Жыл бұрын

    Obviously everyone edits in different ways but it's also fascinating to see how one's approach may change over the years. Thank you for neatly highlighting so many features in Lightroom.

  • @gulerod
    @gulerod Жыл бұрын

    Holy moly, that's a huge difference! Great video!

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear you enjoyed it!

  • @ompratihary2844
    @ompratihary2844 Жыл бұрын

    this was really helpful for me sir

  • @lucacanever
    @lucacanever Жыл бұрын

    Greta idea for a good exercise... I will try this tomorrow and I will let you know how it goes.

  • @shabir2020
    @shabir2020 Жыл бұрын

    Great one

  • @pederkristensen4691
    @pederkristensen4691 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark, great suggestion of checking where you are on the editing timeline.

  • @teresababer5310
    @teresababer5310 Жыл бұрын

    Yes I’ve been a long time LR user. Still is my go to. Love the new version with the masking and content aware improvements!

  • @christophergrove4876
    @christophergrove4876 Жыл бұрын

    🇨🇦/🇺🇸... Hey there Mark. I am a VERY LONG TIME photographer. I had a full-colour darkroom back in the film days. Over the years I have come to realize that... the subtley realistic AND the overt contrasty, super-saturated, with obvious "local tone mapping" applied are BOTH "valid". If you go to a street art fair, like in Ann Arbor, MI, you will see people CROWDING around the GAUDY booths and fewer around the realistic, subtle, large-format camera booths. I used to think, those people DON'T have a clue about what is good. NOPE, just a different sense. EXCELLENT TUTORIAL though, bro! CHEERS!!! 😀

  • @jimswift2400
    @jimswift2400 Жыл бұрын

    Great information

  • @Dmcphotography101
    @Dmcphotography101 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Less is more for sure! I loved the luminance tip dodging with colour too.

  • @KalopsiaVanVliet
    @KalopsiaVanVliet Жыл бұрын

    I think you can see what kind of content we (your public) are seeking for. Great upload!

  • @loubenii
    @loubenii Жыл бұрын

    That luminance range tip is incredible. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

  • @ksnmurthy4476
    @ksnmurthy4476 Жыл бұрын

    A very good advise to revisit for insight of photos of previous years. Appreciate Mark for wonderful thought provoking tutorial. Thanks. 👍

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @akalli
    @akalli Жыл бұрын

    Wow wow wow. What a difference! I loved watching how you did this new edit. Again, I always learn so much during these exercises. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much Andrea!

  • @akalli

    @akalli

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MarkDenneyPhoto yeah, I think I'm a little heavy handed with increasing details and must learn restraint. It doesn't help that I'm using a smartphone, so I don't have that crispness and clarity that your camera puts out. Your editing examples are always so helpful for me.

  • @rajanpaswan9798
    @rajanpaswan9798 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mark. Your tutorial opened my eyes how to edit like pro

  • @scottrgarland
    @scottrgarland Жыл бұрын

    negative clarity with positive texture is ALWAYS the way to go. I usually do a x2 - clarity to x1 + texture. So if I -20 clarity, i'll do a +10 texture. It just really helps soft the image without losing your sharpness and texture, so beautiful!

  • @michaelt7320
    @michaelt7320 Жыл бұрын

    I usually start in Lightroom, often go to Photoshop and then finish in Lightroom. Your videos have been a great help in demonstrating the capabilities of the Lightroom and Photoshop tools. One question though: would you always do targetted adjustments before global adjustments? Thanks for another thoughtful video, Mark.

  • @maginashun
    @maginashun Жыл бұрын

    Nice progression 👏

  • @therampanthamster
    @therampanthamster Жыл бұрын

    first 5 minutes i'm learning stuff i had no idea about, thanks man. I realise lightroom got a massive upgrade this year...tbh i've been super lazy about bothering to learn the new tricks. New stuff looks well worth delving into though!

  • @ChalaniGayathri
    @ChalaniGayathri Жыл бұрын

    great job sir

  • @peterebel7899
    @peterebel7899 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid! Just beside the improved own skills the LR editing capabilities really boosted the last years.

  • @jeffkowalski898
    @jeffkowalski898 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @davehallock3102
    @davehallock3102 Жыл бұрын

    Lightroom has come a long way during that time as well. I have photos on Flickr from 2010 through now and I also look back and see how I have changed over the years. One thing about the photo that I would have done is to add some warmth to the swing and the tree to emulate the setting sunlight.

  • @dangonzalez1785
    @dangonzalez1785 Жыл бұрын

    This made me subscribe. So many edit for social media with trendy styles and colors that at the end that’s what the original edit feels like. I really value the tips you introduced here, have never heard of or seen anyone mention it. Was blown away that you were able to get all the detail of that tree and truly storage it. Sure it’s built in to the software, but it’s those things one picks up with many years of use. Hope to continue to indulge in your content and apply what you show! The final edit feels more editorial, not true to life which I try not to go too crazy with my edits but have also fallen to noob tendencies (cough) -100 holts & 100 shadows😅

  • @ChuckErvin
    @ChuckErvin Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Mark. I learned several techniques plus I really enjoyed seeing how you applied some of the radial filters. Please don’t hesitate showing earlier work and how you would do it now.

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a million Chuck!

  • @912shamik
    @912shamik Жыл бұрын

    This is very good and somewhat obvious advice :) I look at my instagram posts and the older photos remind me to edit them again because like you said all of them are high on contrast clarity texture and saturation :)) But the thing is, I haven't got time to re-edit my old photos even if I want to do so. Nevertheless, I can imagine it's a very fruitful and satisfactory exercise when we see the old and new end product side by side. Thanks Mark!

  • @mmstrux
    @mmstrux Жыл бұрын

    That tip for masking the tree was a big help! I have a lot of photos like that.

  • @bubbbleable
    @bubbbleable Жыл бұрын

    One issue I saw with the complimentary pair of luminance masks is that the border between them ends up looking strange - you can see this in the trees on the horizon when zooming in at 09:55. Just something to keep an eye on - I really liked the techniques shown here otherwise!

  • @bulversteher

    @bulversteher

    Жыл бұрын

    That's precisely the reason why nobody uses luminance masks anymore to tackle such high contrast scenes since LR got it's powerful blacks/shadows/hightlights/whites sliders.

  • @zigatretjak75
    @zigatretjak75 Жыл бұрын

    Nice work, will try on Affinity I use

  • @dougtunison
    @dougtunison Жыл бұрын

    Excellent idea to intersect an overall mask with a luminance mask to pick out a subject from a sky. Thanks for that tip.

  • @robertwooldridge4471
    @robertwooldridge4471 Жыл бұрын

    Starting to be one. I've just recently moved up from the iphone camera. This video is transformative for me. What you did with the hillocks was awesome! I've never considered using more than 2 or 3 masks.

  • @Backfromthestorm
    @Backfromthestorm Жыл бұрын

    Not been playing with lightroom long, few months, but so far I've found subtle is best.

  • @MFP_Photography
    @MFP_Photography Жыл бұрын

    Honestly….kind of afraid to go back and look at some of my older photo work :). Great video. You and your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mickey! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

  • @spd23racer
    @spd23racer Жыл бұрын

    Love this 👏🏽

  • @mozzamhosein6476
    @mozzamhosein6476 Жыл бұрын

    Chalk and Cheese. It’s a great suggestion to grade yourself. Thanks Mark. Another excellent video.

  • @williamm7642
    @williamm7642 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Mark. I actually liked your original photo too, although, as you said, it is a bit "strong" in places. I'd be tempted to take both images into PS as layers and play around with the opacity and blend modes to see how a mix of the two images might look ! Thanks again.

  • @nyomanwisyuliadi4791
    @nyomanwisyuliadi4791 Жыл бұрын

    Wow❤❤

  • @alanbaddeley3835
    @alanbaddeley3835 Жыл бұрын

    brilliant video. What version of Lightroom are you using...? thanks

  • @johnclay7644
    @johnclay7644 Жыл бұрын

    useful 18mins of adobe Lightroom related content.

  • @gregwarson3483
    @gregwarson3483 Жыл бұрын

    Cool technique; thanks for the tip, Mark! Were you using your old Sony at this time? Have you ever done any Sony/Fuji image compares using roughly the same subject?

  • @billrichardson9377
    @billrichardson9377 Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @shepard1783
    @shepard1783 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video. I am getting back in after a few years and one thing I struggle with now is sharpness, clarity and grain. I take more "landscape" photos and wildlife, vague question, is it better to + or - sharpness or clarity to get a cripser smooth matte like photo rather than up the sharpness if that makes sense?

  • @admay316
    @admay316 Жыл бұрын

    This. This is what I want to see more of. I know how to use a radial filter, linear gradient, etc. I also know how to put paint on a paintbrush and put paint to canvas. That doesn't mean I can paint the Mona Lisa. I want to see more about the creative choices you make when editing your photos. It's that creativity that separates the wheat from the chaff.

  • @Losochill
    @Losochill Жыл бұрын

    When you said turn the highlights down and crank the shadows up, I laughed 😂 I thought we were having a 1 on 1 consultation 😂

  • @tonyblake8841
    @tonyblake8841 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. Did you use the software as it was 8 years ago or the current version.? That’s important I think.

  • @worldcupjunkie2659
    @worldcupjunkie2659 Жыл бұрын

    Nice cassette player!

  • @greglum8175
    @greglum8175 Жыл бұрын

    I was the same as you. At first I would use too much texture, contrast, clarity and saturation. But overtime I looked at some of my older photos and I cringed. I went back and tinkered and tweaked the same images and I started using more tools like radial and linear gradients. The difference is night and day

  • @valeriesorrells
    @valeriesorrells Жыл бұрын

    omg, is that a sport walkman? I LOVED mine!

  • @fionahaughton4912
    @fionahaughton4912 Жыл бұрын

    Great for masking the tree. Been there and struggled.

  • @L.Spencer
    @L.Spencer Жыл бұрын

    I don't know what you did at the beginning to be able to better select the tree, but I have a feeling I need to know. It looked pretty mind blowing.

  • @klburt73
    @klburt73 Жыл бұрын

    Mark, great video. Do you happen to know how to do these masks with LR cc for iOS? I only have an iPad Pro, and suspect it can be done, but wondered if you had tried it on iOS.

  • @mkfuertes
    @mkfuertes9 ай бұрын

    When I say my jaw dropped…… I mean I was like YOOOO!!!! He got everything captured in that mask without a manual brush!!!! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @TrevorQuinnPhotography
    @TrevorQuinnPhotography Жыл бұрын

    Some difference alright, looks a lot better. I have done in the past, looking back on old photos and hate the editing on them 😂 I need to do it more often

  • @MarkDenneyPhoto

    @MarkDenneyPhoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Trevor!

  • @qozmiq
    @qozmiq Жыл бұрын

    Awesome content. Do you think you would have shot it differently? If so, I'd love to learn what you would change. Newer cameras dynamic range notwithstanding...

  • @vzshadow1
    @vzshadow1 Жыл бұрын

    I don't use Lr but I do use Adobe Camera Raw, same difference. However, that's just to get started. I do the fine details in Ps. I find that I have great control over subtle edits. To each his/her own. By the way, I've been asked to do a presentation for a local park department on Nature Photography. I went back through my images to make selections. I didn't feel comfortable sharing any of my images that were more than two years old.

  • @mikekay6288
    @mikekay6288 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for that, Mark. It opened my eyes to the potential of using 'masks' in Lightroom; I have much to learn. Mike in Oz

  • @sebastianberes
    @sebastianberes Жыл бұрын

    Your Squarespace ad at the beginning looks familiar :) It's a popular place in the Polish Tatra mountains :)

  • @andrefelixstudio2833
    @andrefelixstudio2833 Жыл бұрын

    You did a very nice job on what you did however it’s now not a photograph it’s an art piece with the assistance of light room which you demonstrated exceedingly well!

  • @arunmuthupalaniappan7277
    @arunmuthupalaniappan7277 Жыл бұрын

    Hello Mark, as a Fujifilm user who just started editing in lightroom, is there anything that can be done to change the way lightroom processes .raf files? I have seen there is some sort of success with the lightroom enhance details feature, but sometimes, I do get worms / softer images than what I see in capture one express. What do you personally do to prevent this?

  • @jasonveee7506
    @jasonveee7506 Жыл бұрын

    Very helpful!!! A nice photo from IL....it didnt quite capture our top 2 things in IL life.....corn and taxes! Haha One day I'll escape.....

  • @uhoh7541
    @uhoh7541 Жыл бұрын

    "Don't judge" Photo wasn't bad my man. I'm getting back into photography after years of not shooting and i started around the same time as you. Old LR was a different beast as i usually turned highlights all down and shadows all up (this was actually recommended to me by a pro doing photo tutorials). However when i did that on my first edit with new LR, i was horrified at the result. Thanks for the video as i plan on re editing a few old images once i get more comfortable with new LR.