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//Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
0:18 - Smash 64 Video
3:04 - Back to the Video
3:19 - Smash 64 Prototype
4:36 - Smash is a Fighting Game
5:33 - The Clip Everyone is Talking About
9:24 - Smash Controls
11:19 - Nintendo Characters in Smash
13:46 - Smash Dojo
15:32 - MELEE!
21:28 - Outro
//Footage Used
KOF98 All Characters Death Combo - ALX: • KOF98 All Characters D... *
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  • @l3ff3n
    @l3ff3n Жыл бұрын

    Head to keeps.com/leffen to get 50% off your first order of hair loss treatment!

  • @osrsgold2547

    @osrsgold2547

    Жыл бұрын

    I won’t but still happy for you and anyone who does lol

  • @MutilManny123

    @MutilManny123

    Жыл бұрын

    Highly recommend everyone doing their research on Finasteride before even taking that

  • @Sasoripwns
    @Sasoripwns Жыл бұрын

    This is a great example of why fox specifically needs a dash dance limit.

  • @sareaper69

    @sareaper69

    Жыл бұрын

    LLLLLLOLLL

  • @pielord177

    @pielord177

    Жыл бұрын

    BRUH have you seen Marth's dash?????

  • @x99rarecandy

    @x99rarecandy

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @king_hamlet

    @king_hamlet

    Жыл бұрын

    this is either bait or egregious

  • @sareaper69

    @sareaper69

    Жыл бұрын

    @@king_hamlet watch the Leffen rant at Hbox near the end of the Ludwig Smash invitational

  • @im_Spade_
    @im_Spade_ Жыл бұрын

    20:58 I literally laughed out loud and considered shedding a tear when Sakurai said "I'd like to think that it lived up to those high expectations." Uhhhh, yeah I'd say it lived up to the hype, and still does 21 years later.

  • @ARICLOUDED
    @ARICLOUDED Жыл бұрын

    The irony of smash 64 is that it has some of the most brutal combos of any smash game

  • @nicohalt3165

    @nicohalt3165

    Жыл бұрын

    Explain where the irony is please

  • @tiporosso

    @tiporosso

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nicohalt3165 Sakurai intended for Smash to not have combos, Smash doesn't have traditional combos but the game evolved so that functionally it's similar to the other fighting game's 0-death combos that he attempted to avoid in the first place and thus creating a disparity between noobs and pros.

  • @staticchimera44

    @staticchimera44

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tiporosso I think the idea with the super high hitstun in 64 was so that you didn't have to be a pro to pull off combos. In 64, the difficulty doesn't come from stringing moves together, instead the difficulty comes from knowing how to most effectively push your punish game. Sakurai was a fan of KOF so I imagine he liked combos, he just wanted them to be more accessible for new players.

  • @zombieraddish
    @zombieraddish Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely do a video on L cancelling. It's a really interesting topic/debate and everyone is either really bad at talking about it or uninformed

  • @malazan6004
    @malazan6004 Жыл бұрын

    Leffen back in about 2011 you were competing in a random Australian local tournament and me and my friend saw you. To this day I've wondered what you were doing in the most remote Aussie town competing in a small local tournament?

  • @davidvkimball
    @davidvkimball Жыл бұрын

    Wave dashing was acknowledged by Sakurai himself on the Melee DOJO!! website.

  • @karma6761
    @karma6761 Жыл бұрын

    2:06 Esam Jumpscare

  • @im_Spade_

    @im_Spade_

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmaoooo

  • @noobfromcanadaland4062
    @noobfromcanadaland4062 Жыл бұрын

    L canceling vid would be sick, too many people think it's just a mindless execution test.

  • @quantum_leap786

    @quantum_leap786

    Жыл бұрын

    And these people are right

  • @guyfauks2576

    @guyfauks2576

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quantum_leap786 someone who cant l cancel

  • @samgould8567

    @samgould8567

    Жыл бұрын

    No hate towards L-canceling (it feels pretty good to execute IMO and helps to get into a flow state) but it definitely seems unnecessary to me. “Mindless execution test” isn’t far off.

  • @l3ff3n

    @l3ff3n

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quantum_leap786 Nah, it really isn't. There's actually a ton of depth to the mechanic!

  • @wiked_5177
    @wiked_5177 Жыл бұрын

    Will there be a continuation of the bronol docs reaction some day? Your input on them could really be super interesting!

  • @l3ff3n

    @l3ff3n

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @escanor2388

    @escanor2388

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@l3ff3n Yes !

  • @Misterzay
    @Misterzay Жыл бұрын

    1:27 sakurai was planning for kazuya since way back

  • @IanZWhite00
    @IanZWhite00 Жыл бұрын

    14:44 I would _love_ to see your take on an L cancelling video👍

  • @drew1333
    @drew1333 Жыл бұрын

    Wavedash isn't an accident. Sakuri posted this on some forum somewhere in like '02.

  • @TheCagedK

    @TheCagedK

    Жыл бұрын

    Mechanic was intended, nothing that came from it was

  • @chewezx1767

    @chewezx1767

    Жыл бұрын

    Sakurai blatantly stated that he was "aware" that wavedashing was in Melee, but he didn't intend for it to be used the way it is today. m So in other words he just didn't think Melee players would take wavedashing as far as it did.

  • @kwobbleguy9252
    @kwobbleguy9252 Жыл бұрын

    It would be cool to see you do an L-Canceling video. I personally love the mechanic but there’s been lots of discussion lately about it

  • @Frank7489
    @Frank7489 Жыл бұрын

    I played smash 64 for like 10 years before I found out about l cancels. Why they didn’t include it in the ‘how to play’ part of the opening, idk. As an avid fan of the game for many years it kinda pisses me off. Like how many people did they really expect to see it when they put it on that website?

  • @PhirePhlame
    @PhirePhlame Жыл бұрын

    10:04 Good news about Rivals of Aether, which does exactly that!

  • @Pizzastealingninja
    @Pizzastealingninja Жыл бұрын

    Other fighting games are cage matches, but sumo wrestling is the og platform fighter.

  • @jinzonight2
    @jinzonight2 Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this video, I'd love to see another like this about L-canceling!

  • @PhirePhlame
    @PhirePhlame Жыл бұрын

    I believe the Smash Dojo existed all the up until Brawl (own childhood memory), before being retired in favor of the regular website.

  • @FoUr-ko1rs
    @FoUr-ko1rs Жыл бұрын

    Been awhile since I’ve seen a vid from here

  • @rayzamarripajr.7571
    @rayzamarripajr.7571 Жыл бұрын

    Wave dashing is intentional

  • @w_out7631

    @w_out7631

    Жыл бұрын

    Not in the way it's used now

  • @memutahar1
    @memutahar1 Жыл бұрын

    This man is still getting respected

  • @proreviewer
    @proreviewer Жыл бұрын

    L cancelling video would be awesome

  • @owrlowrl
    @owrlowrl Жыл бұрын

    love the cheeky ending "quess you won't know how good the game was cuz its an old and outdated game... unless😏" Also, i believe i remember hearing about Sakurai explaining wavedashing in an old forum, AKA not a glitch.

  • @KuhEssen
    @KuhEssen Жыл бұрын

    Just think about how little time they took to make a game like Melee, vs Pokemon Scarlet and Violet today. Don't get me wrong, the Pokemon & world are cool, but it has so many glitches etc.

  • @w_out7631

    @w_out7631

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude Melee came with awful crunch and very hard work it wasn't overnight

  • @mack4691
    @mack4691 Жыл бұрын

    One of the greatest video game franchises started out looking like a flash game from the early 2000s. #humblebeginnings

  • @x99rarecandy
    @x99rarecandy Жыл бұрын

    Great video Leffen Ty !!

  • @decembrits
    @decembrits Жыл бұрын

    So glad you’re posting again!

  • @Marc-925
    @Marc-925 Жыл бұрын

    Slime didn’t deserve that callout :(

  • @professorpick
    @professorpick Жыл бұрын

    i wish he talked about melee more .... why certain things ended up the way they did. di, traction, fall speed. adding more characters, why they made pichu so bad. why mew2 is so light. etc

  • @BobbyReborn

    @BobbyReborn

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes give us the answers about most clone chars being so bad

  • @fawfulmark2

    @fawfulmark2

    Жыл бұрын

    Pichu was the standard Joke Character, which tend to be designed intentionally flawed and became a common thing in Fighting games with other characters like Dan or Roll. They even continued the trend with Ultimate introducing Piranha Plant.

  • @OfficialTigerino

    @OfficialTigerino

    9 ай бұрын

    That's goes against the concept of the whole channel

  • @obo1334
    @obo1334 Жыл бұрын

    Need more leffen KZread content!!!

  • @apocalypseap
    @apocalypseap Жыл бұрын

    Sales and marketing teams have no business making huge decisions about any game they've never played. Play the game and see how "bad" it is for yourself or step aside.

  • @researchbashio
    @researchbashio Жыл бұрын

    Is dark souls pvp a fighting game?

  • @skatan4727
    @skatan4727 Жыл бұрын

    Sakurai goated fr

  • @TM084
    @TM084 Жыл бұрын

    woah

  • @LemonJoos
    @LemonJoos Жыл бұрын

    Leffen watches Kenny for real?

  • @diet7418
    @diet7418 Жыл бұрын

    Keeps

  • @ExcelHumor112
    @ExcelHumor112 Жыл бұрын

    Sushi

  • @ozrolz
    @ozrolz Жыл бұрын

    I was born on smash 64 it has a special meaning for me ❤

  • @TonyTheTaco0830
    @TonyTheTaco0830 Жыл бұрын

    Watching your vids is like being in an abusive relationship

  • @thepunisherxxx6804
    @thepunisherxxx6804 Жыл бұрын

    I love his reasoning behind combos. Smash is very freeform with "combos", other "traditional" fighting games are way more rigid and complex. Complexity can be good if done right, but hinder the game if done wrong. Its not really fun to go into training and practice combos and links honestly. Combos should be open-ended with some limiter while allowing the player to do them in many ways, like Smash does. The motions for certain moves can be fun to see matched on screen like the shoryuken, but training and memorizing specific link combos is certainly not. Smash is the best example of easy to learn hard to master for fighting games, sort of like how Counter-Strike has that title for FPS. There is enough learning skill and nuance for the skill ceiling to still be high despite not having these overly complex combos and mechanics.

  • @Kade503
    @Kade503 Жыл бұрын

    My biggest issue with L-cancelling is just my giant hands/long fingers being scrunched to hit the button over and over on a GC controller. I just wish the shoulder buttons/grip/ergonomics of GC controllers were a lot closer to today's controllers.

  • @ssjayy9103
    @ssjayy9103 Жыл бұрын

    Buddens

  • @juanmjx
    @juanmjx Жыл бұрын

    There should be a combo limit 😡

  • @Anthony-zl7yz

    @Anthony-zl7yz

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow so funny so original of you

  • @jmarq753

    @jmarq753

    Жыл бұрын

    there should be an original joke limit

  • @kyrito11

    @kyrito11

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Anthony-zl7yz leffen meatrider?

  • @destinydynamites

    @destinydynamites

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jmarq753 lol

  • @juanmjx

    @juanmjx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jmarq753 I tried, Sakurai said long combos ruin strategy and then I remember the whole limit joke. Then I combined the two at the same time while poking fun at Leffen 😎

  • @goodguycwyzz4768
    @goodguycwyzz4768 Жыл бұрын

    Post more vids please

  • @bdestlostworn3603
    @bdestlostworn3603 Жыл бұрын

    algorithm

  • @destinydynamites
    @destinydynamites Жыл бұрын

    le algorithim

  • @cototo
    @cototo Жыл бұрын

    Nah 22 minutes

  • @ezekieledwards7092
    @ezekieledwards7092 Жыл бұрын

    Naruto fighting game when?

  • @Barsee23

    @Barsee23

    Жыл бұрын

    naruto ultimate ninja storm

  • @LordFartamor
    @LordFartamor Жыл бұрын

  • @ezekieledwards7092
    @ezekieledwards7092 Жыл бұрын

    First