printed WITHOUT support

Ғылым және технология

This is a short video on how to combine 3dprinted parts with printed parts during printing. The result is a better surface finish in spots that would normally have to be bridged or supported.

Пікірлер: 847

  • @thearakong7159
    @thearakong7159 Жыл бұрын

    Great idea until overnight print, a little support will save you a lot of effort.

  • @lupusk9productions

    @lupusk9productions

    Жыл бұрын

    there's a pause feature... it would just wait for you. not much effort to do what he did. if you did this method you might not care about the time wasted or plan accordingly.

  • @thearakong7159

    @thearakong7159

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lupusk9productions it's good if the print was multiple color but one colour. A 8 hours print will be completed in the morning without waiting for you to put parts in and resume. Using support will be able to estimate the time and planning. Cutting part sometimes ruins your print.

  • @MrSyNRG

    @MrSyNRG

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s still a good trick to have up ones sleeve I think, depends on the part, some will be easier with support but this could also save a lot of work for certain parts where removing support would be tricky

  • @thearakong7159

    @thearakong7159

    Жыл бұрын

    @Enchanted Goose I don't get my point. Ex. 8 hours print overnight, pause at 12am wait for you to put the part in the morning. If you use support, the print would be completed in the morning.

  • @benargee

    @benargee

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't get it. You print the part to attach first then attach it when the base part pauses for you to add the attached part. Besides that it's not very different than a normal print. Either get a printer with a reliable power resume feature or get a UPS.

  • @MiguelRodriguez2010
    @MiguelRodriguez2010 Жыл бұрын

    Omg I was seriously thinking you hacked the P1P haha

  • @rubendariovelez

    @rubendariovelez

    Жыл бұрын

    hack what? gravity?

  • @Timtam99

    @Timtam99

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro thought he hacked physics

  • @08B6

    @08B6

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rubendariovelez Thats not what he meant

  • @rubendariovelez

    @rubendariovelez

    Жыл бұрын

    @@08B6 what he meant?

  • @BrDown

    @BrDown

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rubendariovelez this made me laugh more than I care to admit

  • @shenqiangshou
    @shenqiangshou Жыл бұрын

    A very interesting idea... I've inserted magnets, weights, etc before, but not other plastic parts! Why not! Thank you for the great tip!

  • @davidosorio2913

    @davidosorio2913

    Жыл бұрын

    This part has a great tip.

  • @jannsander

    @jannsander

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah, same here. Although " as strong as if it had been printed in one go" is technically not correct, I think, because the inserted piece is only held in place by one layer.

  • @QiwiPear

    @QiwiPear

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jannsander isn't every layer?

  • @jannsander

    @jannsander

    Жыл бұрын

    @@QiwiPear no, if you look at 0:30 you can see that he inserts the part into a pocket. After that the printer puts a couple of layers above. But the only force resisting the part to break out of the top is the adhesion of one layer. If you had printed this in one every layer would extend into the bottom part and fuse like this.

  • @QiwiPear

    @QiwiPear

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jannsander I see. I forgot that the slots themselves aren't fused

  • @marklee1209
    @marklee1209 Жыл бұрын

    Ah, that bamboo anti-gravity add-on kit was well worth the investment. 👍

  • @matneu27

    @matneu27

    9 ай бұрын

    They have extra employees where watch 24/7 all cams of the printers and send a guy just in time when you sleep. Just leave a key under the doormat😅 😅

  • @OnyDeus

    @OnyDeus

    8 ай бұрын

    Astronaut 3d printing on the ISS, "I see no problem here"

  • @shaymin7240

    @shaymin7240

    3 ай бұрын

    @@OnyDeus now you got me wondering

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes Жыл бұрын

    Great idea, I have paused prints in the past to fill them with sand and epoxy resin to add weight to the part, but I never thought of dropping another part in to match the level and then having it bonded by the next layer, you have done the community a great service by sharing this method and I salute you for it!

  • @Carpcontrol

    @Carpcontrol

    Жыл бұрын

    That is actually an old hat

  • @soacker25

    @soacker25

    Жыл бұрын

    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @tylers2889

    @tylers2889

    Жыл бұрын

    I tried sand once and forgot the fan was on high (probably at 100%). Never again 😂

  • @AndrewAHayes

    @AndrewAHayes

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tylers2889 Thats the exact reason I added epoxy over the top of it

  • @ArcanePath360

    @ArcanePath360

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tylers2889 lol, would like to have seen that.

  • @JacobKinsley
    @JacobKinsley8 ай бұрын

    This is the 3d printer equivalent of "if you shine a yellow light on a blue wall, what colour is the wall? Blue."

  • @atulkhatri88
    @atulkhatri88 Жыл бұрын

    I read people use Rice in the infill to make prints heavier lol

  • @schizophrenicgaming365

    @schizophrenicgaming365

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm actually looking into using plaster to weigh printed lamps down

  • @ColeUmland13

    @ColeUmland13

    Жыл бұрын

    What about lead shot or metal BBs?

  • @skaramicke

    @skaramicke

    Жыл бұрын

    I have used sand with great results

  • @MaximilianonMars

    @MaximilianonMars

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@schizophrenicgaming365 there's a good maker called Cloakfiend that uses plaster to weigh his printed sculpts, then copperplates his sculptures, I recommend his channel he does lots of new and interesting techniques and tests materials for us.

  • @MaximilianonMars

    @MaximilianonMars

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@skaramicke good idea

  • @BirnieMac1
    @BirnieMac1 Жыл бұрын

    This is honestly a really good idea Solvents work well for fusing sure I’m sure we all love avoiding those fumes where we can - after years in o-chem labs and working as a pharmacist, I think I’ve probably copped too much already hahahahahahaha

  • @Verzula

    @Verzula

    Жыл бұрын

    Why did you stop being a pharmacist

  • @BirnieMac1

    @BirnieMac1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Verzula health reasons mostly My spine isn’t the best so can’t do the long days standing anymore

  • @ArcanePath360

    @ArcanePath360

    Жыл бұрын

    I sometimes use a soldering iron to fuse parts. Sometimes pushing a staple between them for strength, and loose filament to fill gaps, but it's tricky trying to keep a uniform surface and isn't good if you care about aesthetics. Also you are limited with the parts the iron can reach, which is just the outside surface.

  • @conorstewart2214

    @conorstewart2214

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ArcanePath360 you should try a 3D printing pen, they are very cheap now. Then rather than just melting the parts together you can add extra material too, which is good for filling gaps.

  • @ArcanePath360

    @ArcanePath360

    10 ай бұрын

    @@conorstewart2214 Thought about that many times, but many just don't get up to temperature. They are like 190c at the tip. No good structurally and when you use PLA+ which works better at 205c+

  • @jacksin3323
    @jacksin3323 Жыл бұрын

    Nice looping edit. I like insetting G10 for strength enhancement. Magnets is another cool one.

  • @kurtnelle
    @kurtnelle Жыл бұрын

    Very cool. Implanting other 3d printed parts into the print. Adopted!

  • @no-expert
    @no-expert Жыл бұрын

    Thats actually really clever. I appreciate your creativity, it makes perfect sense and that’s hard to find on KZread Shorts.

  • @rodiculous9464
    @rodiculous94642 ай бұрын

    Pretty cool ill have to give it a shot

  • @fuckutube65
    @fuckutube65 Жыл бұрын

    Love how you make your voiceover loop, too! ;-D

  • @livedeliciously
    @livedeliciously Жыл бұрын

    This is absolute genius.

  • @NefariousElasticity
    @NefariousElasticity Жыл бұрын

    Bambu owners discovering the ancient ways of FDM

  • @MegaChickenPunch

    @MegaChickenPunch

    Ай бұрын

    not a bad thing

  • @brothermoment5352
    @brothermoment5352 Жыл бұрын

    I’m not sure itll have the same strength as if printed normally. There will be a definite weakness at the interface between the old part since they are not bonded. Thus, the strength will decrease proportionally to the size of this interface.

  • @JJFX-

    @JJFX-

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah for strong functional prints, everything about the design and how it's sliced/printed is a different mindset. Depending on the material, using a suitable adhesive or solvent to bond the parts or even melt them together at the contact points could end up comparable but I'd avoid this as much as possible. In this case, I doubt it would be substantial enough to matter simply because it's not designed for strength to begin with.

  • @Aquaponic0

    @Aquaponic0

    Жыл бұрын

    Throw some gluestick on top of the inverted cone to increase strength…right?😂

  • @ArcanePath360

    @ArcanePath360

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Aquaponic0 Not a bad idea. A bit of hot glue to fill in the gaps of the infill would make the part even stronger than if it were printed normally.

  • @aleksandertrubin4869

    @aleksandertrubin4869

    10 ай бұрын

    I wonder if adding thin, shallow ridges on interfacing plane would make the connection stronger (depth being same as print layer height)

  • @sierraecho884

    @sierraecho884

    10 ай бұрын

    It always depends on the design and function. He has created keys to insert the part which will make it way stronger. For many designs this is the fastest and best way, just not for all.

  • @sayingnigromakesyoutubecry2647
    @sayingnigromakesyoutubecry26476 күн бұрын

    Very smart to do it with pauses to put magnets. Never thought of it before. Bravo!!

  • @whatschoen
    @whatschoen Жыл бұрын

    nice job and i like how the voice over loops

  • @skunkwar7468
    @skunkwar7468 Жыл бұрын

    I love seeing videos like this. Now I have a ton more ideas for 3d models.

  • @hexerade.e6142
    @hexerade.e6142 Жыл бұрын

    Composite 3d printing is awesome, i fused some hex nuts into one of my prints once to have a more sturdy screw base

  • @RowToney
    @RowToney Жыл бұрын

    A known concept integrated with clever thinking. Nice.

  • @clacks78
    @clacks78 Жыл бұрын

    Not sure why but I feel violated.

  • @michaelwelday926
    @michaelwelday926 Жыл бұрын

    The loop is so so perfect," and this is how"

  • @TheMNWolf
    @TheMNWolf2 ай бұрын

    I can't believe I never thought to do this. Brilliant.

  • @masakikusahara5365
    @masakikusahara5365Ай бұрын

    Besides the useful tip, I love how this video is made into a perfect endless loop!

  • @Ugerflingy
    @Ugerflingy Жыл бұрын

    I love stuff like this because it takes an idea that may well have been considered by many people many times, but puts it into a context that effectively says “cool idea, now DO IT.” Way too many ideas never make it past the concept stage for no better reason than “meh, don’t feel like it” when all it would take is a handful of supposedly “meh” ideas to make something brilliant - for example somethin like, oh I dunno… strapping together a few hobby motors and a funky resistor to make some doohickey that leaks hot plastic into weird shapes.

  • @Nova_Lalma
    @Nova_Lalma Жыл бұрын

    Well, I usually just ignore the laws of physics

  • @joshuabrown5558
    @joshuabrown5558 Жыл бұрын

    That's actually very smart for parts that can be difficult to remove supports on. A little effort in meshmixer would go a long way! Maybe even making use of acetone or some super glue to increase the strength of the bond to more than a few surface layers for parts that could make better use of the extra strength!

  • @BirnieMac1

    @BirnieMac1

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t use acetone for PLA though - it’ll weaken it THF iirc is the one to go for there? But I’m not sure how neccesary it’d be if the hotend is ironing the surface too It achieves the same thing, turns the plastic layers into a liquid phase and then as they dry/cool they’ll solidify as one homogenous phase (at least I think it’s homogenous if the temp goes above glass point?)

  • @jayrepairs
    @jayrepairs7 күн бұрын

    This is insane I love it, such a creative idea!

  • @AlexanderEresov
    @AlexanderEresov Жыл бұрын

    Ahah nice trick! I'm used to embedding magnets and nuts this way, but indeed, embedding printed parts might allow nearly seamless fusion

  • @RiseUp_Again

    @RiseUp_Again

    Жыл бұрын

    Ur idea is also Brilliant

  • @JohanRL592
    @JohanRL5922 ай бұрын

    this is so smart

  • @jeffsabel9363
    @jeffsabel9363 Жыл бұрын

    I haven't thought of something like this. Very interesting I may have a project I could use this for. Thank you for posting.

  • @poodlescone9700
    @poodlescone9700 Жыл бұрын

    This is an ingenius idea. Now I want to see how to design this.

  • @ArcanePath360
    @ArcanePath360 Жыл бұрын

    What a great idea with huge potential. I'm going to rethink the way I slice from now on. I'm often wondering about orientation and this might solve some issues I've often had

  • @iantebo6377
    @iantebo63775 ай бұрын

    Sneaky sneaky!! I love it

  • @baselsalam
    @baselsalam7 ай бұрын

    The loop transition is SO SMOOTH. It almost looks like your video doesn't have a cut, until you go back and replay.

  • @JulianMakes
    @JulianMakes8 ай бұрын

    Very nice idea!

  • @Trust_me_I_am_an_Engineer
    @Trust_me_I_am_an_Engineer7 ай бұрын

    One of the best techniques I've seen for the past years, Chris! Thanks for posting. I'll subscribe. You could also print the top cone in a different colour ( same material ) way faster than doing it with supports.

  • @CharlieBasta
    @CharlieBasta2 ай бұрын

    That's brilliant. What a brilliant idea for smooth overhangs on neat designs like this. Great job.

  • @nootherusernamesleft
    @nootherusernamesleft10 ай бұрын

    This is a very clever technique O hadn't thought of. I'll add this idea to my 3D printing toolkit. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kitmarshall4084
    @kitmarshall40843 ай бұрын

    okay that freaking brilliant, i thought this was a click bait scam video, but i left pretty impressed.

  • @Freogeteknet
    @Freogeteknet2 ай бұрын

    Feels like someone smart could embed this in the design program so it detects where this is a strategy that works! Really cool idéa!

  • @MrGerhardGrobler
    @MrGerhardGrobler Жыл бұрын

    Great. Pause at layer is perfect for this. I have known about magnet inserts and such. So this falls into that category. So impressed 😮

  • @marsgizmo
    @marsgizmo Жыл бұрын

    pretty great hack! 👏😎

  • @fredshorrock377
    @fredshorrock37710 ай бұрын

    Great content you earned a subscriber

  • @blackbeton3923
    @blackbeton39237 ай бұрын

    Nice idea, it’s always very useful to pause prints tonight insert parts

  • @sanketss84
    @sanketss84 Жыл бұрын

    This is a nice idea thanks

  • @ntc7335
    @ntc7335 Жыл бұрын

    I usually cut M3-M5 threads directly in my PETG parts and this holds up perfectly

  • @BirnieMac1

    @BirnieMac1

    Жыл бұрын

    Like hiding the threads internally? Or threading it to facilitate that connection? Not the best at the CAD side yet, but holy shit thank you for the reminder that I need to learn how the extruding (mb if thats not the right term) features work CAD is such a useful tool I wish I’d taken the chance to learn it in highschool or had started earlier

  • @ntc7335

    @ntc7335

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BirnieMac1 Nothing to model in CAD. For example a M3 just make a cylindrical d2.5 hole and then cut the M3 right into the printed part with a thread cutter. Works best with through holes but works also with blind holes.

  • @thehudsonforge71
    @thehudsonforge717 ай бұрын

    Nice idea!

  • @arecibo1974
    @arecibo19742 ай бұрын

    Very clever idea 👍🏼

  • @catherine_404
    @catherine_404 Жыл бұрын

    That's wicked smart! Thank you for sharing!

  • @Qwerty-ff1cr
    @Qwerty-ff1crАй бұрын

    "WITHOUT SUPPORT" Sees 2 HUGE support columns used to support the insert of second part.

  • @justinplasse
    @justinplasse Жыл бұрын

    Well done!

  • @ethaneveraldo
    @ethaneveraldo Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant idea!

  • @Modschala
    @Modschala Жыл бұрын

    The bond is weaker due to the lower temperature in the preprinted part

  • @RiverSparks

    @RiverSparks

    Жыл бұрын

    Idk. If you have 100% part cooling on, the previous layer shouldn't be that hot anyways. Having the Gcode stop the print for 10 seconds to drop in the top part shouldn't make that much of a difference.

  • @brianmi40

    @brianmi40

    9 ай бұрын

    The point is to consider this and other methods as options. Here it's not a functional part, so the strength difference doesn't matter. If you need to consider this for a functional part, there are mods you could make to the design that would compensate for the lack of solid bonding like making the support arms wider, etc.

  • @boodeehaha1751

    @boodeehaha1751

    8 ай бұрын

    How about heating the part on heating plate in controlled temp before joining them..

  • @blueberryhaze3603
    @blueberryhaze360311 ай бұрын

    That's awesome! Like a boss! U Made my Day

  • @zyad48
    @zyad48 Жыл бұрын

    This is simple but brilliant! I'm honestly a bit upset I didn't think of it myself haha

  • @Farmlover453
    @Farmlover4539 ай бұрын

    Very creative!

  • @onlineshaman
    @onlineshaman Жыл бұрын

    Nice idea, I will keep it in mind for future prints. In the model you show in the video I particularly like that you will not have any signs of supports on the cones! Big plus in my opinion... Cool!

  • @moen3249
    @moen3249 Жыл бұрын

    🤯So simple, yet still hard to implement. I will try it sometime.

  • @jimmycastelliano4871
    @jimmycastelliano48714 ай бұрын

    great idea.can print in separated time frame.dont hv to wait the whole night to finish.

  • @DEtchells
    @DEtchells Жыл бұрын

    Grear idea, thanks!!

  • @LolmenTV
    @LolmenTV Жыл бұрын

    What an awesome idea! Congrats bro! 👏👏👏

  • @neddy1703
    @neddy1703 Жыл бұрын

    Great idea!

  • @luisca92
    @luisca92 Жыл бұрын

    Great idea!!! Definitely wanna try it!

  • @SmellyCatCreations
    @SmellyCatCreations Жыл бұрын

    Super clever idea 💡

  • @AlexanderBukh
    @AlexanderBukh6 ай бұрын

    This gave me an idea - for something not so pointy, one can insert some support ramp. But it has to be heated and fixed to be stable 💁

  • @_billyk_
    @_billyk_11 ай бұрын

    I was going to say it's obviously 2 parts, but inserting it mid print is genius

  • @felipedidio4698
    @felipedidio4698 Жыл бұрын

    CEO? Heck no! CGO, chief gigachad officer.

  • @shibbleswentworth
    @shibbleswentworth6 ай бұрын

    Now we need the machines to think of this themselves

  • @HergerTheJoyous
    @HergerTheJoyous Жыл бұрын

    That is a really good idea.

  • @deafeninghair3331
    @deafeninghair33316 ай бұрын

    this is cool! thanks

  • @nahtanoj92
    @nahtanoj92Ай бұрын

    Very clever idea 💡

  • @dominikdangendorf4259
    @dominikdangendorf4259 Жыл бұрын

    Nice Idea!

  • @soacker25
    @soacker25 Жыл бұрын

    That was quite a boss move👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🍾

  • @MadmanInUkraine
    @MadmanInUkraine Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant idea!!! Never ever thought of this!

  • @golnectr
    @golnectr6 ай бұрын

    Very underwhelmed by this "solution" to not using supports. Print two pieces? Uh, yeah.

  • @robob4465

    @robob4465

    6 ай бұрын

    I expected him to print one side upside down and then flip it

  • @snickerdoooodle

    @snickerdoooodle

    4 ай бұрын

    I mean if you're going to be completely reductive to the point of ignoring the point of the video, sure.

  • @389OpiE

    @389OpiE

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@snickerdoooodleNah he's right. The only part he "ignored" was imbeding it back into the print but that's no different from just gluing them or melting them together

  • @Hyderagean

    @Hyderagean

    4 ай бұрын

    And yet, I don't see you posting a better one. Guess that means you're even more underwhelming and are only good at critiquing from a false ideological perspective, which makes you basically worthless in reality. 😂

  • @JohnDoe-jp4em

    @JohnDoe-jp4em

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah the video title and thumbnail suggest some elaborate or novel solution, creating a difficult piece out of multiple easier pieces has been done since humans built things. I thought he did something like moving the z-axis down to print with a free hanging string. Inserting a the part during the print is newish I guess (but I've seen it before with things like nuts) but this isn't even really necessary here. Using glue would probably be easier and just as strong.

  • @Heeby-Jeebies
    @Heeby-Jeebies Жыл бұрын

    That's done great thinking right there! Well done!

  • @michaelkolozsvari3575
    @michaelkolozsvari35754 ай бұрын

    That's friggin great!

  • @smeghead765
    @smeghead765 Жыл бұрын

    Pretty cool idea.

  • Жыл бұрын

    Im trying this today

  • @Robotnic25
    @Robotnic25 Жыл бұрын

    I never even thought about doing this. This is genius

  • @EhRabz
    @EhRabz6 ай бұрын

    sealing it after like this is SO cool.

  • @3Dprintmates
    @3Dprintmates5 ай бұрын

    Geneious! Loooooove it!

  • @thicodeoliveira
    @thicodeoliveira6 ай бұрын

    this is great!

  • @user-mv5ne5gc4n
    @user-mv5ne5gc4n6 ай бұрын

    Cool trick. Thank you

  • @CNTHINGS
    @CNTHINGS Жыл бұрын

    Very cool never thought of that

  • @CordlessReview
    @CordlessReview Жыл бұрын

    Slick hack. Love it

  • @tinkerman1790
    @tinkerman1790 Жыл бұрын

    You are a genius!

  • @themeek351
    @themeek3516 ай бұрын

    I used this method to insert filter paper into a coffee filter print!

  • @thomast7748
    @thomast7748Ай бұрын

    It's not as strong. If you pause a print 15min or so, depending of the material, and you resume, you don't get the same layer adherence. It doesn't matter for this part for sure but keep that in mind.

  • @jayce3991
    @jayce3991 Жыл бұрын

    At first I just assumed it was made in two prints but this is actually really cool. Might have to try this out.

  • @pmhking84
    @pmhking84 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome trick!

  • @KevinRedmondWA
    @KevinRedmondWA5 ай бұрын

    This also works if you want to embed a magnet into your models. Great advise.

  • @mntbighker
    @mntbighkerАй бұрын

    Great thinking outside the box.

  • @davak72
    @davak72 Жыл бұрын

    Genius! I’ll put this to good use if I remember to haha

  • @OneHappyCrazyPerson
    @OneHappyCrazyPerson8 ай бұрын

    Thats really smart !

  • @adscomics
    @adscomics Жыл бұрын

    Super clever!

  • @arnabmusouwir9018
    @arnabmusouwir9018 Жыл бұрын

    this is mind blowing

  • @pushingplastic7445
    @pushingplastic7445 Жыл бұрын

    Very clever! Nice move!

Келесі