Okay, you can see Juan try to hide his illness from everyone. He never wanted to appear weak. This episode is difficult to watch because you know what’s going to happen next. Lili1127 congratulations. 🙂🤔😇

@leeannproctor2966

9 ай бұрын

What exactly killed prince John anyway?

Poor Ferdinand and Isabella - to learn that their only son is going to be a father, only to lose him and the child within a year, to see the last of their House die off and rule pass to the Habsburgs.

I feel so bad for John! That poor boy!

@miab.9521

5 жыл бұрын

Marina Ka-Fai Me too.

@cathylanders6377

2 жыл бұрын

@@miab.9521 me three 😢

Sooo good!! Joan is happy and his wife already has a baby! So will be also his sister's marriage!! I pray!!

@omgfish8146

2 жыл бұрын

i hate to burst your bubble but john dies and so does their daughter and also isabella dies of child birth and the baby dies two years later

I WISH I could buy this with English subtitles!!!

@bluebellthesecond8353

5 жыл бұрын

So do I, but I can't find it anywhere. That's why I am loving Lilli posts so much.

@Silver_Owl

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluebellthesecond8353 It really puzzles me that it's not available to buy with English subtitles. Perhaps some legal issue? Well, let's hope perhaps one day.

@SunflowerCR

3 жыл бұрын

Me too.

I am sorry for the fate of all the children born to Isabel and Fernando; except Maria who become Queen of Portugal and gave to the King Manuel 10 children.

@b.3049

4 жыл бұрын

Luis Federico Sala naah. She was constantly pregnant, to a point where she temporarily lost her senses after yet another painful childbirth. Her body was exhausted and eventually she also died due to childbirth at a far too young age. Literally killed by being a brood mare.

@Martin-Tello

2 жыл бұрын

@@b.3049 en comparación con los demás, le fue mejor

@nenisguevaragomez8122

Жыл бұрын

​@@Martin-Tello well, let's say Maria de Aragón died softly, little by little with too many pregnancies. But her husband felt a lot of affection for her and was loyal to her.

@calliefinck6275

Жыл бұрын

Isabel had a good first marriage, same with Juan and Maria. It’s just Catherine and Juan who suffered immensely

@AguedaG

4 ай бұрын

​@@calliefinck6275Isabel sufrió mucho al enviudar, y luego murió muy joven de parto. Juana tuvo que soportar a un marido infiel y maltratador, y luego enloqueció. Muy afortunadas no fueron.

Aunque yo leí por ahí alguna vez que la reina tenía gran preferencia por su hija mayor, igual que el rey.

@Martin-Tello

2 жыл бұрын

Dicen que Isabel (la hija de la reina) incluso participó en algo de la estrategia de la toma de Granada o algo así

Pobre Isabel, ella solo quería el cariño de sus padres pero estos solo se lo daban a su hermano por ser el heredero

@Lily1127channel

4 жыл бұрын

No solo se lo daban a Juan, la reina Isabel no. Pero sí él era el más importante de sus hijos por ser varón, eso es cierto. No por la culpa de sus padres sino por la culpa de las reglas. Mujeres podían heredar el trono en Castilla, pero en Aragón no tanto.

Poor couple 🙁🙁

I think it might be Heart problems maybe? And his eldest sister Isabel also was trembling after she gave birth. Maybe his heart was weak and he was forcing himself

Was this before or after the wedding

@Lily1127channel

3 жыл бұрын

After

Sad if they had just let isaballa abdicate her right to inherit should could have lived happy in retirement. Instead the made her marry again and she died giving birth.

What language they are speaking? Spanish or Italian?

@Lily1127channel

4 жыл бұрын

They are Spanish, they speak Spanish.

@viiviwagner3240

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lily1127channel thanks for the answer 🌹

@galadrielgaladriel6725

4 жыл бұрын

European Spanish 🇪🇸🇪🇺

@NoNo-oi7zj

3 жыл бұрын

Italian

@PoLiGaDeS

2 жыл бұрын

@@NoNo-oi7zj Spanish, fucking ignorant!!! 😡😡😡 Stop confusing Spanish with Italian!!!!

Balla padres parecía un mercado.como las bendian

@nenisguevaragomez8122

Жыл бұрын

Después de todo todos estamos en un mercado.

De quoi est-il mort ?

Okay okay When you said isabel ( the daughter ) had mental issues , you didn't lie I mean , is she jealous of her brother ? Alfonso died since years , she should move on And yet she looks that angry at her family for marrying her off to manuel ( the acting is amazing 🤔 and i really feel the scénario )

@Lily1127channel

5 жыл бұрын

Mental issues? I don't know, I don't think she had such. That is certain that she lived in melancholy and sorrow after the death of her first husband. I think the fact that she saw a happy young newly wed couple so closely (John&Margaret) only reminded her that she and Afonso were exactly like them after their wedding. You would think that a young girl get over her first love easily, but it seems it wasn't like that for Isabella. She swore never to marry again but she was forced to. First she wanted to enter a convent after Afonso's death, but her parents didn't allow. Then her mother promised her she won't have to marry again, yet they forced her to do so later. Of course she had grudges because of this. I think that psichologically you can understand if there was some sibling jealousy in Isabella towards her brother, but that doesn't mean she didn't love him. But Isabella grew up till the age of 7 as the heir, only child, and most important thing in her mother's life, and it suddenly all changed when her brother was born. And then the other daughters came, and soon Isabella was just one of the 4 daughters of her parents, while the precious only son got most of the attention. Having John such an impact on her life, it's no wonder she had some sibling jealousy.

@ilenebillingsley7516

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for explaining this scenario. Love the series . Thank you for posting it. 😊

@oberonyronwood5657

4 жыл бұрын

Lili1127 wow, that was a very deep and layered explanation, well done!

@Silver_Owl

3 жыл бұрын

I think as well she is feeling set aside. She's leaving to marry against her wishes, doing her duty, but at least she was getting some attention in her leave taking. The focus was on her. Now suddenly all the attention is back on her brother again, and she feels ignored. Look how she steps aside, and nobody even noticed. This was her moment, her leave taking, and suddenly it's of secondary importance. Poor Isabella.