I really find the heavy breathing of HRH Philip and the close-up of him just amazing for me. You can see the pain that he felt when he lost his family and how much he could relate.

@lauraschoenborn3544

6 ай бұрын

Honestly, it's more than that. Prince Phillip can relate to the distance Charles is feeling from William in that moment. You can see the regret he feels in the way he treated Charles as a teenager. In the show he was portrayed as too harsh, and insensitive to Charles's needs. Charles turned to the Queen and not to him. Which is why in the next scene we see him watch old home videos and pictures of him and Charles when Charles was younger than William.

@jasonkoch3182

6 ай бұрын

I think it’s more that in that moment he realized how badly he had failed Charles as a father and sees the chance to do his duty to his son for a change.

@Concreteowl

3 ай бұрын

It's not real. It's made up. Real Phil was a horrid racist from a family who straddled both sides of ww2 for self preservation.

Phillip has made me cry on this show more than anyone else. Perhaps it's my daddy issues but... Between the story of his favorite pregnant sister dying in a plane crash, to walking behind her casket, to his father's brutal treatment of him, to his mother's charity services and her mental health struggles and being embarrassed of her, to going to boarding school, to his awareness of his shortcomings as a father. His story line deserves it's own show.

@johnnymcgregor4866

6 ай бұрын

Agreed with Matt smith Tobias Menzies and Jonathan pryce in it ;)

@shespeakssoftly

6 ай бұрын

I agree. Each time he comes on screen in any season I’m so pleased.

@kate2create738

6 ай бұрын

Ironically out of the royal family, Phillip in my opinion has come across very justified even if there might be certain parts that are not accurate depending on who knows him. I think he manages to show that side that is ironically relatable, such as certain wicked sense of humors, feeling lost in the position he was in when he suddenly lost his navy job to help support his wife and the monarchy, wanting to help but was not as welcomed in the early days, to eventually trying to be the best guide he could provide to his family, and highlighting the many mistakes made, I think Philip came out as someone we can’t help but respect. Even better how not just that those in the throngs doubted the late Queen’s capabilities but they also doubted Philip for what was required of him, we can now say both ended up proving their places to be in an endearing spot in many people’s memories as they did their duty to be a service to the crown.

@mogznwaz

6 ай бұрын

Prince Philip was a war hero and a legend

@DVPerry220

6 ай бұрын

⁠@@kate2create738I respected Prince Philip. He stood his ground as a husband and a father. Philip wouldn’t let any “Establishment” rules dominate him or dictate to him what to do or how to feel about anything. As far as HE was concerned, his children were HIS children FIRST - and NOT property that belonged to The Crown.

This entire scene is just heartbreaking. On so many different levels. So many troubled generations who struggled with parent/child relationships. It just goes to show that it can happen in any family, prince or pauper.

0:52 The moment Philip felt regret when Charles did not even ask him for help and asked his mother instead to talk with William. Despite being a harsh father with mistakes, he understood what his son was feeling as a father too. So he helped Charles without telling him by talking with William and telling how every father makes mistakes.

@ManjeetKumar-pe8oz

Ай бұрын

I agree with you

Sometimes Grandparents have better insight and are more sympathetic to the Grandkids than the parents. Elizabeth and Philip seemed to get those boys more than Charles. *yes, it is tv show* I think Charles just doesn't want to acknowledge how is relationship with Camila affected the whole family

This episode reminded me of episodes from earlier seasons where Lord Mountbatten, or "Dickie," as the royal family called him, filled in the gaps where the fathers in this family failed. He was not their father. He was an uncle, yet he still filled the role of the patriarch of the royal family even as the queen was technically the head. He was there for Phillip when his father failed him. He was there for Charles when Phillip failed him. (Although, he wasn't perfect either. His bad advice contributed to the disastrous three-person-Wales-marriage. But he was there for them. That's miles ahead of many fathers out there.) Charles was absolutely right when he said the family is not great at fathers and sons. Camilla was absolutely right that it is no excuse. So I feel like Phillip took on the role of Dickie in this situation for William, stepping up where Charles was failing. But part of his stepping up included convincing William to forgive Charles, thereby breaking the cycle of ... "abuse" is probably too strong of a word. Perhaps "distrust"? And while I am aware The Crown is fiction dramatized for the purpose of a narrative arc, it is based on historical events and facts, so with that in mind, I hope that William is a better father to his children than Charles was to him or Phillip was to Charles. (Same with Harry and his kids.)

@fredrika27

6 ай бұрын

But what is so sad in all of this is the fact Harry got left behind again. Had Phillip spoken with Harry, heard him out, then where would Harry be today? There was a major lack of actually seeing both William and Harry as needing guidance. Indeed, Charles sent both sons back to school a mere three weeks after Diana died. The teachers at their schools were instructed not to mention anything, so they didn't. The result being that both men have their demons today. William looks miserable and scowls all the time. Katherine also looks unhappy.

@umitencho

6 ай бұрын

And Harry left the country as soon as he saw the same signs in Meghan as he saw in his mother. I think that's why William is at odds with Harry: Harry left him for greener pastures. He feels abandoned again, but the problem is that like Margaret, he is his own individual with needs, but being the spare and now fringe, no one has been paying attention to him. Charles found out about his mental spiral & smoking habits through an interview. They failed Harry spectacularly. @fredrika27

@nonstopballer7378

6 ай бұрын

@@umitenchothey most definitely failed both but Harry made it very clear in his interview that he left because he wanted his duties to be “in and out” and when he didn’t get that he left 🤷🏽‍♀️

Regret is the strongest of emotions.

@CiaraJackson-rb5fk

6 ай бұрын

Yes it is 😢

@NisarKhan-jm1uh

6 ай бұрын

As well as fear, anger and jealousy.

@JoanMorrison-vq2jc

5 ай бұрын

And yet being mere mortals we must know to tread lightly for all these "feelings" may come with horrible consequences ! Unfortunately, add defeat and humiliation to this sad list of strong emotions.

Actually, if there is one member of the RF that has been warm and respectful towards the people since a very young age, that is Prince William

@kate2create738

6 ай бұрын

Right? I’m questioning how they got this idea that William was resentful to the people, understandable with the press as he didn’t like them prior to Diana’s death. The one who admitted being resentful to the people was Harry and there’s no sources to say William ever felt this way.

@ReaverLordTonus

6 ай бұрын

He may be that way now, but for all we know he may have had difficulty at the beginning, what kid wouldn't?

@usagi18

6 ай бұрын

@@ReaverLordTonus well, he did manage to at least "fake it till he made it" very early on. Even as a little kid, he did show shy, but always nice and polite. I'm his age, and even while growing up, he did seem to be a nice kid.

@Anurania

6 ай бұрын

@@kate2create738 It isn't a documentary. The show is a work of fiction inspired by real people.

@kate2create738

6 ай бұрын

@@Anurania Funny how the show doesn't establish that when you're working with real people who are currently alive.

The remoteness in those letters between Philip and his father, as well as Philip and Charles, is honestly quite sad. I'm sure a lot of this is dramatised and semi-fiction but it wouldn't surprise me if there was some truth in it. It's encouraging to see a happy, warm and tight bonds with the Wales' family. William will be a great king and mentor towards George when he's a bit older

@SarahB1863

6 ай бұрын

William has, sadly, completely abandoned his mother's philosophies and become a member of The Firm. Diana would be heartbroken to see how he's shut his brother out and abandoned him. That's not who she raised him to be; but that's who he's become.

@Fisher9001

6 ай бұрын

@@SarahB1863 Sad truth is that his brother abandoned them. There is a lot of undeserved hate towards Megan, but it doesn't mean that she's blameless angel. She alienated him from his family and he let her do that.

@pinkosmondfan

2 ай бұрын

@@SarahB1863 Harry shut William out and abandoned HIM, not the other way around. The one breaking Diana's heart is Harry. She didn't raise him to throw his family under the bus, write tell-alls, and let himself be led around by a woman who is trying to separate him from his family.

The expressions on Philip's face in this scene say it all without him uttering a word.

Prince Phillip went to "this is not going to happen again in this family, not under my nose" mode.

First off. Anyone else look for a Blue Box when you saw Matt Smith? Then we need to look at HOW children were raised pre-WWI, and how they were raised post-WWII. BIG difference. And it changed more so between 1950 and 1980. Children went from “being seen and not heard” to “one of the largest demographics the world has seen” (Hello Baby Boom generation). And I know I’ll catch flack for this. But there was a marked difference in how my own father acted (raised in WWII) after my mother (his wife) died. I was/am the black sheep of the family. And when I was sent to Germany and then to Iraq (join the Army, see the world), my father would call my wife to see how she and my kids were getting on. Before my mom died, that wouldn’t have happened. He softened. It wasn’t a lot a first. But when I caught up with him a year before he died, we understood more about each other (he was a Korean War veteran, and I had just come back from the 3rd of what would end up with 5 deployments). And the wild thing is, my two older brothers are both just like my Dad before our Mom died. I see it, and I’m pretty sure my Dad saw it too. It was interesting to see the look on his face when I showed up at the hospital a week before he died. It was the look old soldiers give each other; the “oh shit” this is real look. He and I knew how this hospital stay was going to end, my siblings didn’t; until I pulled out his DNR paperwork. The death of my Mom 5 years earlier, helped soften my Dad. I wish I had some extra time before he went (so many unasked questions). We all wish that. But the key thing, is a person needs to grieve. And we all grieve differently. If William wants to get back to school. Let him, for a while. He’ll know when the stress gets to him and grades suffer. It might take a week, might take a year. But it’s gonna happen.

Prince Philip says it as it is Prince William is Just a Teenager and School is good and safe for him. I should know.

So complex, like real life, and so well portrayed.

I mean Philip lost his sister, his father wasn't the best, his uncle Mountbatten was his father figure, and he was tough on Charles...maybe Philip saw his own father in Charles because of Charles's affair with Camilla...maybe he realized that his distance was what led Charles to make all those mistakes, and now it's affecting William. It feels like it's generational, and the one thing that stays is regret at not being able to do it over and do it better...Philip probably wished that he could have done better by Charles. But he sees Charles doing something for William that, he didn't do for Charles or that his own father didn't do for him, and that was to try and understand his son.

@girl1213

3 ай бұрын

This is why he tells William that he will one day see rage directed at him from the eyes of his sons for being an heir and a spare. He's not accusing William of anything but warning him that what he feels towards his father now will likely be the same his sons (the future Prince George and Louie) will feel of some sort towards him one day. Because Charles as felt this way towards him, and Philip towards his own father. It's natural for sons to resent their fathers for their mistakes, so Philip tells William to forgive because it's not worth living in resentment for the rest of your life. He doesn't have to like how Charles treated Diana or that Diana left him too early or even like Camila as a person, but forgiveness doesn't mean forgetting: it just means peace for one's self.

The pain in Philip’s life makes me cry.

Does anyone know what the music is to the back ground music when Phillip is looking at the letters ?

@booperpotpie9634

6 ай бұрын

My best guess is that it is part of a library of instrumental tunes made available to The Crown production team. You might try searching the credits of this particular episode, although often these snippets aren't credited at all. There are apps (such as Shazam) that can identify many pieces...However, this, too, draws a blank.

What is the soundtrack when Philip is watching the videos back? X

I've been trying to figure out what the name of the music in the background of Philip's cutscene is...

Ah Prince Philip. What an amazing man.

Can any of us say we were/ are the perfect patent? We tried our best (for the most part) we all come with our own lifes problems and we get things wrong but it's about understanding that and trying to get it right as much as possible that counts.

not reality, but strong

imagine the king watching this, showing how he could have used his emotions in the right way, the example on television forever shining him in the face would be torture imo.

@lillyess385

6 ай бұрын

We have no clue what really happened behind closed doors

The man playing Prince Philip looks remarkably like the Pope😂😂😂

@liamcollins9183

6 ай бұрын

Jonathan Price played Pope Francis in the Netflix film, 'Two Popes', with Anthony Hopkins playing Pope Benedict.

@mikhailabdurrachman2443

6 ай бұрын

That's actually the high sparrow 😎

This is probably why Harry went off the rails. No one in the family cared about his grief. Just Williams.

@fahimfaisalmahir567

6 ай бұрын

He wasn't the future king.

@jennifermelton9598

6 ай бұрын

If that’s the case, Harry retaliated quite well. Markle was two torpedoes below the water line. Monarchy is truly on borrowed time now. IMO

@startracker5895

6 ай бұрын

@@fahimfaisalmahir567 that’s the problem with the royal family. Having members more important than others because they were born first. It’s not fair. Harry was a human being too and deserved as much support from the family as William did.

@fahimfaisalmahir567

6 ай бұрын

@@startracker5895 RF is a constitutional institution, not a family. They have born as its employees, not mere family members. Harry has become an entitled brat bcz for a very long time he was treated as equal as William. But when the reality hit him that no matter what William will always be the important one and the future of the institution, he went off rail. His duty was to support William which he failed. Look how unwaveringly Edward and Anne support King Charles.

Diana left a gigantic chasm that is still felt today, if Charles truly cared for his sons, he wouldn't have pushed for a separation and left his family in tatters, It is quite ludicrous how he is hailed as advanced and modern yet, couldn't break the shackles of his rigid parenting style and display affection for his loved ones aside from Camilla who capitalized on his weaknesses.. Prince William understands the demands and needs of his own children and never fails to shower them with love which is only a facet of his mother's influence ❤

@claireangier3322

6 ай бұрын

I agree wholeheartedly.

@TheShootist

6 ай бұрын

a product of the ignoble press.

@ladymary22

6 ай бұрын

Amen

@maelguiraud3568

6 ай бұрын

harry said he was there for them when she died but ok i guess.

@lois7956

6 ай бұрын

"If he truly loved his sons, he'd have stayed in a loveless marriage." Countless therapists and marriage counselors say otherwise.

I do not believe they gave a damn how William felt. They were glad Diana was gone. They were also shocked at how much the country cried over her.

The funniest part is portraying Charlie boy as a caring father. WHAT BS!!!

Remember it's a work of fiction.

This is the work of fiction!

@girl1213

3 ай бұрын

Who cares?

This is my least favorite version of the queen

the dialogue here is awful. It's so clearly the way Hollywood solipsists would think. It's not I think what the actual people would say. I know something of this because Hollywood put words into my mouth in the show The Loudest Voice. Which is why I'm interested in this. Disgusting people with an enormous budget and brilliant artists but terrible, bread-and-circuses narrow-minded writers out for a cheap buck at the expense of art and truth.

GOD SAVE HIS MOST ILLUSTRIOUS AND GRACIOUS MAJESTY, THE MOST MIGHTY AND NOBLE SOVEREIGN LORD CHARLES III, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND, KING, HEAD OF THE COMMONWEALTH, AND DEFENDER OF THE FAITH.

@koenkeep

6 ай бұрын

Are you ok? The caps lock make you sound like you're insane.

@JayanthSahasranamamula

6 ай бұрын

Amen!

@JayanthSahasranamamula

6 ай бұрын

It's an expression of loyalty @@koenkeep . Intense loyalty.

@Jayfive276

6 ай бұрын

@@JayanthSahasranamamula Misplaced loyalty. He's just a man.

@sammom8599

6 ай бұрын

@@Jayfive276you cannot judge whom someone gives their loyalty to. We are all just flesh and if it makes him happy and he is not harming anyone then go forth and USE THOSE ALL CAPS!