I really like your reviews and presentation. You do a really good job.

I have the Plus and so does bud Jarl. I looked at both and decided to go for the cup. Glad you explained the screws. The direction booklet was such small print I couldn't read it with a 10x magnifier. The handle is worth it. I've used my original SVEA Optimus stove for over 40 years. It's great. Can also use the pot on a fire if necessary. Everything packs as one. Heavy I guess for some with the bottle of liquid fuel but it works well very versatile. I do some hiking but mostly motorcycle travel. Light is right on both regards.

So recognizable!

Älskar dina filmer och din humor! Själv föredrar jag Optimus och MSR grejer

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Matti är gått in i Sarek idag men jag tackar för komplimangen o hans vägnar. Vet att han blir glad för kommentarer som denna 😊. /Stina

I especially liked that view of Stina in a canoe with a big smile at the beginning of this video. I've been aware of this stove, JetBoil stoves & others. My fuel canister stove of choice is Soto Windmaster. And it's piezo igniter works every time. Yes, I do keep a small lighter with the stove as a backup ignition. I also begin any hike/adventure with a FULL 4oz fuel canister thanks to my GWorks lindel fuel transfer valve that enables me to refill the small canisters from larger 16oz fuel canisters. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😁! We never trust only the piezo igniter on any stoves. Always have matches or firesteel with us for backup and security. So many people love and recommend the Soto windmaster, it seems like a great burner. /Stina & Matti

Great reviews as ever. I've been using the Lite+ for a few years and even though there are lighter stoves out there, it's never let me down (as long as you carry a lighter cos of that intermittent Piezo!) so I don't see me changing.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Interesting to hear that it's not only our piezo igniters that are bad... Primus should really look into that problem.

Great information once again. Thank you!

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!! 😀 It's super that you like our videos because we enjoy making them. 😀 /Matti

Nice review. I have the Primus lite+ and I like it very much. We had it with us this year in Rondane National Park Norway and last year in Sarek. It worked very well for three people ( me, my husband and my 15 year old daughter). It was perfect for boiling water. Very fast and efficient. Even the piezo worked very well. If we are on a day hike here in the south of Germany we often use the coffee press which you can get for it ( unfortunately we don't have Kok Kaffee in Germany😉).

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Did you only use the Primus Lite+ for the whole tour or did you have a second stove with a pot as well?

@simbovideophoto9082

Жыл бұрын

@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA We used it for the whole tour.

Impresionant, chiar cochetez cu acest sistem. Am diferite arzătoare, dar îmi trebuie unul pentru hiking.

Thank you!

Nice video. Thanks for sharing. Yes, the space in the lid holds the fold out legs. It’s convenient for that. With the Lite, you can put the gas can in upside down and the burner should fit inside with the lid on. I think you would have been happier with the Lite+ overall. It’s worth the extra weight/money for the included pins/lid/handle/legs. Cheers!

Best review i have seen!!! I own Jetboils 1.0 and 2.0, Flash and what ever and i have the Primus Lite and Lite+. This is a very accurate and honest review. Im a fan and subscribes, that is for sure. I have GAS (gear acquirement syndrome) for better and for worse. Guide me through the shit?

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! I will try to make more reviews. I have a lots of gear that I have opinions about. 😉 GAS... Hahahahaa... welcome to the club!!! 😀 /Matti

Jag har börjat använda jetboil "flach" samma grej med locket tycker jag som du upplever på primus. Infästning mellan brännare och kastrull tycker jag är lite knepig på jetboil. Tack för alla bra filmer och inspiration.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Tack för input om Jetboil Flash. Låter inte som den är så mycket bättre då. Kul att du gillar våra filmer.

I use Lite XL version ( 1 liter volume ) which has those screws included and are nicelly done, not just basic diy screws but machined ones. Piezo works flawlesly, one click is enough. Smashing piezo nervously many times in row will kill it fast. It can cook proper meal no problem, pasta, stews… yes, Jetboil is probably more thoroughly thought through, but more expensive. XL version fits 230g gas canister inside along with burner, tripod for canister and 2 foldable sporks so for me its great for mountain trips 2x a month. Also, less weight is not aleays in par with sturdyness or robustness

@matteo.peroni89

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Vladimir for this comment! you helped me to make the choice! Definitely Lite XL 😍

@thdjjfsfh

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, sir, I already have a backpacking stove system, but I want something like this for family camping. The XL seems like the way to go.

Nice review. I use Jetboil, it seems more « sturdy ». Also i didnt care to have a Piezzo.. i just have a flintstone, that way you car start the stove in any weather, no problem with wind and matches, or wet lighter. Also, i’d rather have a second regular stove for pans or pots, that way i can boil pasta/rice at the same time i cook a trout or anything else on a pan. Also with jetboil you have little feet to hold the gas bottle on the ground, it makes it very stable… it avoid spilling everything you cooked on the floor.. like it happened to me many times

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience of Jetboil. We are really curious of testing one of them.

Hi I have just watched your video today, I have the primus eta lite, I have a soft spot for this stove, the connection between pot and burner is the best one, the pins to use for other pans I don’t think is very good they are only good for small pans, I do like the hanging system. My other stove I have similar is a jetboil micromo, this is far faster to boil water, possible half the time, the connection between pot and burner is okay but the burner part is wobbly when fitted to gas canister ( this is not between the canister and stove it’s on the stove part). You need to buy a separate hanging kit to hang the stove to a tree, the pot support is better and the control of the valve is better so can be used for cooking. I like your review and have never seen your version of the stove. Thanks.

I have the 1st iteration of the Primus Lite Plus and have owned it for many years, at that point it had a different name, but that doesn’t matter too much. I used it many times and nothing has broken or got old, the lighter works 1st time every time, but as you say it is just for heating water, and for a lightweight burner for solo adventures it’s far too heavy - I now use the Soto Windmaster for solo adventures and for that purpose it is far superior.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

The Soto Windmaster seems very good. Many recommend it.

You hit the nail on the head. Good stove for heating water for coffee.or boiling water for dryed soup.. stuff like that.not cooking for anything that needs to cook for a long time you will melt the insulated cover. But the stove cooks great with bigger pots.

I have had a Jetboil for 15 years now but the hours of use I put on it is few and probably like 15 weeks for you. It has the same problem with the piezo lighter and has had so on and of not from new but after a few seasons. The store I bought it from showed me that the pin has to have a quite big distance from the metal so the spark has to go a bit longer distance. It then works better. I have had to bend the pin out quite often to get it to work. But now it is game ower probably due to all the bending.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the input about Jetboil and the piezo igniter.

Very helpful review, bought it myself👍 thanks for tips too🙏 Seems like liggter does not work at any primus burner😔

What are the "top mountain stoves" you mention? I have ETA solo pot, but no burner, so I would like a small burner to go inside it with a gas canister. 28g sounds great if it will fit my pot, but any suggestions welcome. Good video, thanks.

I have a Lite+. I keep it in my car for emergencies as it's good and robust. If you'd like it, I'd be more than happy to send it to you.

I’ll stick to a heavy msr universal, it covers everything. For light weight a pocket rocket or similar but you’re stuck with canisters. For sure I don’t like to have special pots that won’t work as you mentioned on a campfire. Even with the screws you’re bringing an extra pot so defeats the weight saving

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

True!

I used my new Lite + on one trip this spring with the coffee press. the bottom of the handle melted right away and the coffee was weak. switched to MSR windburner much faster and a better simmer control.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Not good that the handle melted but you can't blame Primus that your coffee was weak 😉.

@tonecoughlinphotography

Жыл бұрын

@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA ha ha same strong coffee I have at home in my french press

Hi! Great video!! I have just a question.. does the igniter (lighter) of your primus burner work? I mean.. we had 2 replaced in around 2 months, because the little metal filament that gives the sparks.. after 2-3 uses felt apart (came litteralli off).. are the filaments of your stoves firm and solid.. or they also tend to come off?

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

I have a bad experience with that shot also... I don't know why... but it's not working. /Matti

Fully agree with this review. I lost the screws twice already. More worryingly, despite the manufacturer's claim it boils 0.5liter of water in 2.30 minutes, mine takes over 4 minutes. Also, the handle loop is too wide. It's difficult to grasp.

You should consider the MSR Reactor or Windburner.

The hole in the lid is for gas canister holder. But it's stupid idea to put dirty handle into clean stove system. Aaand some moments were fixed in the lite xl version) For example screws holder appeared and new instructions now has pictures which explain how to use these features) Maybe your review helped primus to get better)

Could the lid be shaped like this to accomodate a foldable gas canister stabilizer/holder?

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm...could be.... don't have one so can't try but that's possible.

The ways of Primus marketing division ar unknown. And it's not the first product "less expensive" version product they sell, that lacks obvious features, like Moja stove, that lacks piezo ignition, but like with Kinjia stove both have groves cut in stainless steel plates for it. But if the Moja has place for improvement (piezo ignition ready) and it count's as "less expensive" I afraid to imagine the price of Tupike analogy for that stove... On Lite line stoves: My piezo ignition on Lite+ for some reason works fine for now... Maybe because I haven't used it that often. I have an older version with plastic knob. Also the Lite+ design had some weird design of the strap, that I burned and melted the dangling end of on the first firing the stove, and I it was hooked the way it came, but if I wanted the end not get melted I had to hook it other way. I even don't understand why this dangling strap end was there - maybe to protect my fingers from touching the metal G-Clip? Also the lid on Lite+ doesn't hold as well.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to hear that you have a bad experience... 😞 We need good outdoor gear when we do our tours. /Matti

@RyszardRudy

Жыл бұрын

@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA we'll this is not that bad, just small burn on the strap, that was packaged wrong. Still I didn't have the need for cover to fit in snugly, since I can fix it with the holding strap. But the lid vs mug lid, I don't see that much of thee weight difference, bit bulkier but works for me. :)

If your bringing a pot, the burner size is irrelevant as it can easily be stored inside the pot. Go for the oldest designs, theyre tested and trusted through time

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

True 👍

Optimus Svea 123 👍👍👍

when u hear "370g but can make it 365g" u can stop playing that vid lol

I got primus eta lite.not sure how it compares to these. Its over 400g. So far i like it,i wish it was bit lighter though..

How is the ability to simmer? (i find it difficult to boil rice with my jetboil)

The negatives are the same for all brands of this type of stove. Now the Lite XL 1 litre pot is available for this stove makes it a killer biikepacking stove for two persons

Leve Abisko ❤❤❤

Pretty much it is a knockoff of jetboil. Personally I stick to an alcohol stove (trangia), gasifier/flatpack wood stove, and multifuel. I don't like single use gas canisters, as they are becoming a real problem for national parks, trails etc. People throw them into the garbage and they explode when compacted by the garbage company, they just get left out in the wilderness, and few areas recycle them either. They should be banned, and the companies need to make refillable models. Appreciate the review

@azclaimjumper

Жыл бұрын

ALL existing fuel canisters are all refillable. All anyone needs is the GWorks Lindel valve, simply refill small 4oz gas canisters from a larger 16oz gas canister. I always begin any hike with a FULL 4oz fuel canister.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

True about the canisters but as AZ Claimjumper wrote you can refill them but still there will always be arsholes throwing them in the garbage bins 🗑.

Thanks for the video. I have both the Lite and the Lite+. I tend to use the regular one most, and only to heat up water (so I dont miss the screws). Very good review also. The only extra thing worth demonstrating is that the cozy can be removed easily (it has a wide velcro strip) if you want to wash the pot. I agree that the piezo could be better but it usually works in 2-5 attempts for me. As you point out, it would be sooooo convenient if the burner and gas canister could be stored attached inside it. (Preferably by making the burner shorter). True, it takes just a second to disassemble it and flip the burner to make it fit, but I am VERY lazy. Still, it is my favorite stove when hiking in the swedish mountains and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone. EDIT: Oooo, I just checked! With the Lite+ version, I actually CAN store the burner with the canister attached inside the pot (thanks to the different lid).

Piezo lighter works better when pot is attached already

Recently bought - and disappointed by (1) Handle - which is too large and insufficiently rigid making it dangerous to use for pouring. The pot itself is too large for my partner to grip fully without a handle, so this is a significant drawback. Also, the metal clip at the base of the handle gets hot when the stove is in use. (2) Less significant but annoying, the stove base feet do not sit square in the pot when stowed for packing - so cannot be stored inside the pot if also storing a gas canister in there. Feels like Primus has rushed this t market with insufficient testing.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for that... 😞 Primus was th No 1 back in old days. It's sad if they can't continue with top of the line products. Maybe it's like you said. They have rushed. Or the development is disconnected with real outdoor people or that someone without outdoor experience make decisions. Or that they produce in China, etc, and don't get the products they order... / Matti

what about jetboil?

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

We never had a jetboil, so can't say anything about it.

I used 5 years Primus Lite XL. Plastic lid was damaged, because plastic is not metal. Screws is not good idea, i've lost it all after haf year of use

Basicly, the company only has a few products worth buying, the rest are for profits.

I hope Primus have seen your video😅

I disagree, I have 2 Primus Classic Trail stoves now for over 10 years !!! I use them about 2 times a week. They have NOT EVER FAILED ME. !! GET A PRIMUS ,CLASSIC TRAIL !!

The primus lite exists so they can sell you the lite AND the lite plus.

Mati I looked at that stove as I love my Primus Omnifuel stove Its old and still works perfectly. I think Primus Lite & Primus Lite+ and Eta stoves are poor quality and not for me. I decided to buy a Soto Windmaster which is the best canister stove you can get in my opinion. I use a pot with fins just like these and considerably cheaper to replace. I flatly refuse to own anything from MSR as I personally think its poor quality and over priced. Cheers

The space in the lid is for the foldable gas canister stand🙂

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Ай бұрын

Thanks! I have to check that. /Matti

I think they grew their company to large, and are now forced to come up with "new products" made in china, that break after 1 season, or don't work at all, so you're forced to buy a new product next season, increasing their profits to pay for their oversized company.

17 минут сиськи мял, взял бы хотя бы весы, взвесил расход газа, обзорщик пля...

Jag älskar dina reviews, bäst på KZread, lätt!!! Hoppas Primus, Seekoutside m.fl. får tips om dom så de får ovärderlig feedback! Jag funderade på Lite+ men det blev Jetboil Micromo, du kanske skulle låna den för en review? Har även en Omnilite Ti, inkl silencer som du kan få låna om du vill.

@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA

Жыл бұрын

Tack Jan! Matti är just nu i Sarek men blir nog jätteglad för din kommentar 🤗. /Stina