I really like Primož's philosophy, not to let such things burden you and affect your present/future performance. I think he will get stronger after this, people like him just don't give up and keep coming back. I wish him all the best in the recovery.

@user-yh6gm8wb3t

17 күн бұрын

Rogcrasher will be 35 next tdf he will never win it I gave up being a fan of his

It’s hard to see Primoz going through these things over and over again. You wish that to Nobody. Doesn’t matter who’s fault it is, Primoz not competing is a loss for the sport.

@danielhall1473

23 күн бұрын

100%. Especially when his form was steadily improving. Some of the crashes in his career have been his fault or at least could have been avoided, but this wasn't one of them; it was pure bad, tragic luck.

He seemed to be getting stronger as well. I was really hoping to see Primoz battle it out like stage 11 or maybe even better later in the race. Really disappointed to see him have to drop out yet again. I was rooting for him to do well.

Roglic has the worst luck with crashes. It's too bad this year because he was looking stronger than I expected. I don't think he could have won, but podium was a possibility.

@Knofris

23 күн бұрын

He has a lot of bad luck, but he (and his team) also often positions himself poorly. If you compare it to how Jumbo protects Jonas in sprint states, it’s an entirely different story and they do it every single stage for years at this point.

@chavonuevo

23 күн бұрын

@@Knofris, I agree with you 100%. Visma and UAE never let their guard down when it comes to position and safety for their respective leaders.

@ManfredMann-yb6rl

22 күн бұрын

In the last 10 kms of the stage , you have to be in the front of the pack , not in the middle like primoz . It was nor smart for an experienced driver like him.

All the best for the recovery Primoz. I support you all the time and followed you to Bora can’t wait to see you back out there

A very philosophical attitude. Excellent directeur sportif.

Feelin so bad for Primoz, all the best and i hope he recovers quickly... next year i hope he can get it

There is a saying in the philippines pinagtagpo pero di tinadhana ( made to meet but not destined). Prime example roglic and tdf

Noticing Primoz having so many crashes, has he been checked for eye conditions that could explain his bad luck. Does he have Retinitispigmantosa (this restricts the peripheral vision over time). Being a cyclist myself with this eye condition I know how easy it is for accidents to occur because you just can’t see what’s beside you.

What a hero. And they even gave him a free 3km pass

I think the road furniture and traffic calming techniques these days are so varied and numerous from town to town, and their reaction time in milliseconds remains the same but they're riding faster and faster = less reaction time to a greater variety of road obstacle = crashes that take out Roglic etc. This last crash was caused by a weird 10cm mini central reservation road hump separating two lanes of traffic. Never seen this before and the riders have radio forewarning but still....

Vamos

oh-oh, "we need to find new goals...redefine ourselves....." Sounds like after this season big changes.

@user-kz9lg5vr2k

23 күн бұрын

no. wuite obvious he is referring to the tour. they prepared the whole team to support Primoz. now that he is out, they need to find new goals. simple

@Knofris

23 күн бұрын

@@user-kz9lg5vr2kBuchmann and Kämna leave the team, that’s as of right now. Both riders have been in the team for a long time, if that doesn’t look like big changes will be made, then what else? With RedBull they have a completely different budget, I’d say that they will make huge changes, too.

@user-yh6gm8wb3t

17 күн бұрын

​@Knofris No chance they blew all there budget on Rogcrasher who will be 35 and can't win a tour. The truth is Red Bull will be very angry as they didn't expect such a low level at this team

Sad for Primoz

A big loss for TdF to lose Rogi, even if he was unlikely to win. He's been unlucky with crashes and it makes no sense to send him out there after yesterday's crash - at last, common sense prevails. Rogi might not get another chance at TdF, although I wouldn't write him off just yet, so maybe he can bounce back and set his sight on La Vuelta de España. Bora Hansgrohe now needs someone to step up to the plate, let's see who can take it on, at least to win a stage or two for Rogi and the team.

@danielhall1473

23 күн бұрын

He has probably at least 2 more years before he starts to decline. The fact he started older than other riders will keep his mind in the game later, and we've seen various riders at their best at even older ages lately.

@user-fb3yf2xb2z

23 күн бұрын

@@danielhall1473 Geraint Thomas, Mark Cavendish, Vinikurov, (Chris Froome...maybe next year....hmmm)

@starlitshadows

23 күн бұрын

He'd be the oldest in the modern era to win the tour and 2nd oldest in history next year. As much as I'd love to see him win it it's probably not the most realistic of expecations. I do hope he is in the mix next year though. And there is always the Vuelta and Giro.

@Knofris

23 күн бұрын

Why would he continue the Tour if he could possibly win the Vuelta instead of being 4th in the Tour?

Primoz will be back!!!

It's disappointing as he will never win this one maybe even finish it. There is some problem with positioning, awareness and general peloton stewardship that will never get fixed as he is too old. And I don't believe at bad luck. Really exciting rider and will miss him tomorrow but hopefully he gets back for Vuelta. His team mates I never liked as I would surround him with more climbers and diesels. I guess the two German rider are injured (Kamna and Schachmann). This is also why I don't believe in more than 2 favorites in TdF. Just wondering if Ineos would have been a better fit?

@Knofris

23 күн бұрын

Who would you put on the team? Hindley and Vlasov aren’t bad climbers by any means.

@recrevs963

23 күн бұрын

​@@Knofriseverybody except this van popoel, sobrero or haller and denz even jungels. Give me Higuita, Martinez and Z Germans 😊. Doesn't matter they would not have protected him in that gutter. He had to be towards the top with Jonas, Remco and Pogi and not in 10th row and not surrounded by teammates

@Schabo1234

23 күн бұрын

100%

When you take up cycling late and can’t ride a bike.

@user-wd8qm5hl8l

23 күн бұрын

You could not be more full of it. Go watch his descent on Pas de Peyrol on Stage 11. Roglič pulled away from Remco then caught and passed Jonas by the time he got to the base of the descent solely by virtue of his bike handling skills.

@douglasbooth6836

22 күн бұрын

@@user-wd8qm5hl8l 2 riders in the pellet on that took up cycling late both crash all the time. Roglic and Thomas. Enough said.

The Curse continues . . .

Bad luck and he is getting older. Not as aggressive as he used to be. Still a strong rider but not overall contender anymore.

So you just quit because things are not going your way.. should have stayed in the race and helped teammates.. cowards....

That’s his last chance gone.

That's terrible news, just as Primoz is getting warm up to bring it to JV and Pogi! The winner of this year tdf need to have a * next to it!!

Rolf is ready to sign Remco and move on from a 34 yo crashed marred rider.

@majkoldzekson

23 күн бұрын

He has still a lot to give and I read somewhere that Remco's contract with Soudal ends in 2026...

Team Astana made that crash and did it again the next day , They should be kicked out.

@Knofris

23 күн бұрын

For what reason should they be kicked out? Causing crashes? Do you think they kiss the floor on purpose?

@sgtted7580

23 күн бұрын

@@Knofris they should race with stabilizers on there bikes, that might help.