Primitive Montagnard Crossbow from Vietnam

This Montagnard crossbow antique is from the Vietnamese HIll Tribes, and it has been restored into a non-functional item for collectors. Montagnard is an umbrella term for the various indigenous peoples of the Central Highlands of Vietnam. The French term Montagnard (listen)) signifies a mountain dweller, and is a carryover from the French colonial period in Vietnam. In Vietnamese, they are known by the term Thượng (lit. 'highlanders'), although this term can also be applied to other minority ethnic groups in Vietnam. In modern Vietnam, both terms are archaic, and indigenous ethnic groups are referred to as Đồng bào (lit. 'compatriot') or Người dân tộc thiểu số (lit. 'minority people'). Earlier they were referred to pejoratively as the mọi.
The bow, stock and trigger is all broken and glued back, but the glue is not strong enough for functional shooting. it has been re-sanded and stained to give its original look from the 1970s.
The stock is over 500mm and designed for two hand use. they had one handed crossbows as well but those were more pistol gripped or shot without aiming at very close distances.
The Montagnards are most covered in English-language scholarship for their participation in the Vietnam War, where they were heavily recruited by the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) and its American and Australian allies. The Montagnards tended to be Christian at a higher proportion than that of the Viet people, and the North Vietnamese were seen by some Montagnards as propounding a heavily centralized state that would not value Montagnard local priorities or religious practices.
"Throughout the southeastern Asia the crossbow is still used by primitive and tribal peoples both for hunting and war, from the Assamese mountains through Burma, Siam and to the confines of Indo-China. The peoples of the northeastern Asia possess it also, both as weapon and toy, but use it mainly in the form of unattended traps; this is true of the Yakut, Tungus, and Chukchi, even of the Ainu in the east. There seems to be no way of answering the question whether it first arose among the barbaric forefathers of these Asian peoples before the rise of the Chinese culture in their midst, and then underwent its technical development only therein, or whether it spread outwards from China to all the environing peoples. The former seems the more probable hypothesis, given the further linguistic evidence in its support"
Needham, Joseph (1994), Science and Civilization in China Volume 5 Part 6, Cambridge University Press
Around the third century BC, King An Dương of Âu Lạc (modern-day northern Vietnam) and (modern-day southern China) commissioned a man named Cao Lỗ (or Cao Thông) to construct a crossbow and christened it "Saintly Crossbow of the Supernaturally Luminous Golden Claw" (nỏ thần), which one shot could killed 300 men. According to historian Keith Taylor, the crossbow, along with the word for it, seems to have been introduced into China from Austroasiatic peoples in the south around the fourth century BC. However, this is contradicted by crossbow locks found in ancient "Chinese" Zhou Dynasty tombs dating to the 600s BC.
In 315 AD, Nu Wen taught the Chams how to build fortifications and use crossbows. The Chams would later give the Chinese crossbows as presents on at least one occasion. Siege crossbows were transmitted to the Chams by Zhi Yangjun, who was shipwrecked on their coast in 1172. He remained there and taught them mounted archery and how to use siege crossbows. In 1177 crossbows were used by the Champa in their invasion and sacking of Angkor, the Khmer Empire's capital. The Khmer also had double bow crossbows mounted on elephants, which Michel JacqHergoualc’h suggest were elements of Cham mercenaries in Jayavarman VII's army.
0:00 intro
4:53 Vietnam war era
7:56 Prior to the Modern Era
9:23 Poison
10:17 features of this crossbow
13:09 Trigger design

Пікірлер: 100

  • @phawang37
    @phawang37 Жыл бұрын

    ian from forgoten weapons should collab with jack

  • @marcellusbrutus3346
    @marcellusbrutus3346 Жыл бұрын

    The only KZreadr talking about historical crossbows around the world

  • @dydactic1112

    @dydactic1112

    Жыл бұрын

    He's the best

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@dydactic1112 thanks, im not sure about that though

  • @dydactic1112

    @dydactic1112

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HistoricalWeapons Traditional Asian crossbows are hard to come by on KZread.Most tend to focus on Chu Ko Nu or European crossbow. I'm keen on the idea that crossbow could be as primitive as bow and arrow, it's just we don't have the evidence of it.

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dydactic1112 yeah, the chu ko nu is over discussed. we can thank video games

  • @1johnnygunn

    @1johnnygunn

    Жыл бұрын

    Tod cutler & matt Easton of Scholagladiatoria have demonstrated nearly Every historically relevant crossbow from around the world.

  • @skyrimJava
    @skyrimJava Жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @mattjones6990
    @mattjones6990 Жыл бұрын

    rising storm 2 vibes

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    good times. i miss the PPSH

  • @Not-Just-Cars

    @Not-Just-Cars

    Жыл бұрын

    or akm

  • @Leverguns50
    @Leverguns50 Жыл бұрын

    That’s an interesting little crossbow

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    Is the echoing bothering u for audio

  • @Leverguns50

    @Leverguns50

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HistoricalWeapons no It didn’t bother me

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Leverguns50 thanks

  • @zhangtony3372
    @zhangtony3372 Жыл бұрын

    Bow Buddha is back

  • @RV_Chef_Life
    @RV_Chef_Life Жыл бұрын

    Great Video! I just purchased one off Ebay for a surprisingly $85. Decent shape and it even had a trigger made out of bone. Obviously can't be shot due to age and minor cracks in the bow part, I did make a hemp bow string for it. I might do a video on it sometime down the road.

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    Mine for sale for cheap if ur interested

  • @RollTheTape
    @RollTheTape Жыл бұрын

    When you gonna travel again?

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    soon. any suggestions? thinking about dubai

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    @jp23 ja vem cara, saudades

  • @northeee8887
    @northeee8887 Жыл бұрын

    Nice work Jack, really upped your production value recently :)

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    Is the audio ok? Echo too much?

  • @ritchhistory1888
    @ritchhistory1888 Жыл бұрын

    Very cool! I have one brought back from Vietnam by a U.S. Army Colonel who was bronze star recipient. I also have the rest of his uniforms.

  • @andkonblack
    @andkonblack Жыл бұрын

    welcome to the rice fields

  • @aoe2_elo037

    @aoe2_elo037

    Жыл бұрын

    Moda Fakas

  • @1johnnygunn
    @1johnnygunn Жыл бұрын

    Montagnards (mon tain yards) or Hmong as themselves are my neighbors & friends in Wisconsin. Great hunters.

  • @krmahcgempire7748

    @krmahcgempire7748

    4 ай бұрын

    Pretty sure hmong people aren't montagnards.They usually reside in the central highlands and are descendants of chams. where as Hmong people are usually more northern.

  • @beepboop204
    @beepboop204 Жыл бұрын

    🙂

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    Is the audio ok? Echo too much?

  • @ralfgrosser4443
    @ralfgrosser4443 Жыл бұрын

    My Father was in Vietnam during the war. He brought back a quiver of crossbows arrows. Had this still decades later. The crossbow had been stolen in shipping. He told me that you could buy these in Vietnam as souvenirs. And they had a cottage industrie makeing these to sell to the servicemen. Most were just something cheap barely working proper.

  • @pyramid_scheme_termination3655
    @pyramid_scheme_termination3655 Жыл бұрын

    Why not just use a blowgun instead of a weak crossbow for poison. You can reload blowgun faster

  • @andkonblack

    @andkonblack

    Жыл бұрын

    blow gun required drilling a long tube, drilled by hand, not to mention if you accidentally swallow the poison your dead

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    But isnt the poison is near your mouth

  • @pyramid_scheme_termination3655

    @pyramid_scheme_termination3655

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HistoricalWeapons u don’t know much about blowguns. Watch a documentary of how tribes hunt with them using poison.

  • @aoe2_elo037

    @aoe2_elo037

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pyramid_scheme_termination3655 he runs a archery channel not blowgun channel

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pyramid_scheme_termination3655 I don’t know much about blowguns, would be interested to read more

  • @treelore7266
    @treelore7266 Жыл бұрын

    I thought as well that a big and strong trigger is needed to push 200 pounds out of a simple notch but I changed my mind after rubbing a bit of tallow-beeswax mix on the string. Now I don't consider a crossbow shootable until it's been lubricated.

  • @LyNguyen33739
    @LyNguyen33739 Жыл бұрын

    Off topic but did the indigenous Americans use crossbows prior to the arrival of Columbus? Love the vid btw.

  • @dsasd778

    @dsasd778

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    inuit did use crossbows in 20th century. I dunno if they did pre-colombus.

  • @legntt3488

    @legntt3488

    Жыл бұрын

    Did Vikings bring it to Greenland?

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    @@legntt3488 Vikings did use crossbows but the probability they brought it to Greenland is very very rare

  • @Dnahwjjwjejnenex

    @Dnahwjjwjejnenex

    Жыл бұрын

    Cree did use

  • @mr.oppenthunder2527
    @mr.oppenthunder2527 Жыл бұрын

    I have one of those that my grandpa brought back from Vietnam

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh nice how was it? also is the audio ok? Too much echo?

  • @user-qd9nj1ux2r
    @user-qd9nj1ux2r Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ian

  • @pandita4u
    @pandita4u2 ай бұрын

    Cool ,thanks for sharing.

  • @Duc_Anh_809
    @Duc_Anh_809 Жыл бұрын

    The Montagnards refer to the ethnic minorities in the Central Highlands (Central Highlands) of Vietnam. They are ethnic groups that speak mainly southern island languages, before 1975 and after 1975 many forces there organized separatist armed groups. before the French discovered them, they didn't have a state of their own. Their crossbows are similar to the crossbows of the ethnic minorities in the mountainous north of Vietnam, the arrows are similar, but the arrows of ethnic minorities such as the Muong in the mountains of northern Vietnam can be impregnated with tree sap as poison. . In Vietnamese history, the crossbow appeared with the first legend of Au Lac state (the second of state of Viet ethnic people ni 218 BC ) country fighting against the Qin army from China, it was very useful for ambushes.

  • @dingdong4156
    @dingdong4156 Жыл бұрын

    Oh nice

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 Жыл бұрын

    what type of wood or bamboo was the body of the crossbow made of?

  • @jerryle379
    @jerryle379 Жыл бұрын

    Actually depend on ethnic group , some fought for VietMinh and later current Vietnam state , while some fought for the south regime .

  • @langdavid6852
    @langdavid6852 Жыл бұрын

    Cool

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 Жыл бұрын

    those tribes could have used their traditional weapons colonial era firearms and modern firearms all together during that war

  • @CharlesUnkel
    @CharlesUnkel9 ай бұрын

    Where could I get a new string and bolts?

  • @pingASS_
    @pingASS_ Жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Is the limb made from bamboo?

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    vietnam hardwood that looks like rosewood

  • @user-kg9fw1mi6e
    @user-kg9fw1mi6e6 ай бұрын

    Does champa also used that crossbow?

  • @ianuser9650
    @ianuser9650 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot

  • @obsrollin4133
    @obsrollin4133 Жыл бұрын

    I came across an old crossbow looks similar to that on. do you have an email?I want to know what I have on my hands Thank you.

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 Жыл бұрын

    🤠👍🏿

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    Is the audio ok? Echo too much?

  • @elshebactm6769

    @elshebactm6769

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HistoricalWeapons is fine, didn't bother me🤠👍🏿

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elshebactm6769 omg u wrote words for the first time

  • @elshebactm6769

    @elshebactm6769

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HistoricalWeapons xd

  • @edfitzgerald6626
    @edfitzgerald6626 Жыл бұрын

    The U.S. used as guides in the jungle and crossbows are quiet.

  • @greenmagic8ball198
    @greenmagic8ball198 Жыл бұрын

    Weren't Montagnards on the Americans' side? The French used a 'divide and conquer ' strategy with ethnic groups in Indochina. They gave Montagnards and other ethnic minorities preferential treatment to get their support. The Vietnamese communists resented them for this and thus were enemies. The US offered training and advisement to the Montagnards and Hmong in their fight against communist Vietnam.

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    such crossbows are used in northern vietnam not just exclusively by the montagnards.

  • @greenmagic8ball198

    @greenmagic8ball198

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HistoricalWeapons I was moreso commenting on the passing mention of Americans facing this weapon in the hands of Montagnards. It's entirely possible that they encountered the weapon but unless I got my history wrong the Montagnards wouldn't be the ones using it. Anyway I enjoyed the video.

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    @@greenmagic8ball198 thanks yes your comment make sense

  • @nerhaci2074
    @nerhaci2074 Жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @xiaotian5863
    @xiaotian5863 Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @ThomasWilts98
    @ThomasWilts98 Жыл бұрын

    LenGth lenth 😩😑

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    Gotta follow laws

  • @dsasd778
    @dsasd778 Жыл бұрын

    Nobody cares about crossbow history

  • @fire_lord862

    @fire_lord862

    Жыл бұрын

    I care 😌

  • @HistoricalWeapons

    @HistoricalWeapons

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fire_lord862 same. there are millions of people who care about firearm history, sword history, but a very small group that care about crossbow history

  • @markdennis254
    @markdennis254 Жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @bugger6881
    @bugger6881 Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @Dnahwjjwjejnenex
    @Dnahwjjwjejnenex Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @legntt3488
    @legntt3488 Жыл бұрын

    Yes