Pride and Prejudice: LGBTQ Rights in Asia's Newest Nation of Timor-Leste
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The tiny island nation of Timor-Leste is the youngest country in Asia. It’s also one of its most Catholic. And, in a surprising twist of fate, it’s leading the fight for LGBTQ rights in a part of the world where these same rights are increasingly under attack.
Nowhere is this battle more evident than Timor-Leste’s annual Pride parade-an event that draws more than a thousand to the streets of downtown Dili. It’s a stark contrast to the situation in neighbouring Indonesia, a massive Muslim-majority country that once called Timor-Leste its own. In Indonesia, the LGBTQ community has recently been experiencing a series of attacks, including state-condoned raids, canings, and official attempts to outlaw public displays of LGBTQ identities.
In contrast, the situation in Timor-Leste looks remarkably safe and open. But an official openness doesn’t automatically make people’s lives free of the kinds of struggles that come with coming out in a deeply religious place, which still sees homosexuality as a sign of deficiency. VICE traveled to Dili to learn more about the struggle, and why Pride-and inclusivity-is so important.
Cover photo by Clementino Amaral.
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Great video, I really enjoyed. Congratulations to all the beautiful people of Timor Leste. Love from Ireland.
Lesbians are seldom spoken about whenever discussions of LGBTQ take place, nice of you to provide a spotlight to them as well.
@dreaminbronze9189
5 жыл бұрын
Great clip! Yes...I was hoping for Lesbian representation as well. Although Butch lesbians were replaced by "The Boys". However, lesbians can be "masculine" presenting without being Trans/male-identified. But mainstream is framing it in that way more & more.
Timor Leste's LGBT presence is much stronger despite being a new country . Viva Timor Leste. Love from the Philippines
This video was also posted in Vice Indonesia and it received so much hate. I'm glad that people commenting here are more open minded and progressive.
@Ghostly050
7 ай бұрын
Its becouse most of indonesian is anti lgbt, im also to
@TheSunanKalijaga
3 ай бұрын
Open minded you fuckin
Long live East Timor 🇹🇱greetings from the Philippines 💕🇵🇭
@markirish37
4 жыл бұрын
And, greetings from Ireland.
*ATTENTION WORLD. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE WORLD THAT CAN STOP YOU FROM LOVING WHOEVER YOU LOVE!*
@yang7245
5 жыл бұрын
@FARK GOOGLE No, pedophilia is NOT a part of our community.
@philosophicalreason
5 жыл бұрын
@FARK GOOGLE One thing all over the news I have seen,people that fight against people being gay usually are gay themselves.Just look up gay priest most that fight against it are themselves gay.
@philosophicalreason
5 жыл бұрын
@FARK GOOGLE I'm still trying to figure out why you need to type in all capitals.
Lets be honest who knew this country existed anyway?
@tayaaron1921
5 жыл бұрын
TheShowMan I knew.
@aertishipper6765
5 жыл бұрын
what does that have to do with anything? You're basically just flaunting your ignorance at this point, how sad.
@rimuru8071
5 жыл бұрын
Same just knew about this this country about a day ago
@misstangocortez5295
5 жыл бұрын
seems like you're bad at geography back when at school.
@anastasiaarmitage
5 жыл бұрын
... Every mildly educated person?
Awww that song is sooo beautiful
Let Timor Leste joins ASEAN from the Philippines ... Timor leste govt. respect human rights than Indonesia. Long Live Timor Leste :)
@andreas2042
5 жыл бұрын
You know that Indonesia is the biggest supporter for TL joining ASEAN.
@liliksugiyarto2551
5 жыл бұрын
Think again, what about your govt country?
@Kanal7Indonesia
4 жыл бұрын
We Indonesians tried to make Timor-Leste an Asean country but Singapore won't let that happen 🙄
@abrqzx
Жыл бұрын
@@Kanal7Indonesia why?
@memepmakar9468
8 ай бұрын
@@abrqzx Singapura takut Timor Leste akan menjadi beban ekonomi asean
Empower Lesians - Empower Trans this is beautiful
@markirish37
4 жыл бұрын
Trans people are beautiful.
Oh Kathleen, you broke my focus
Viva Timor-Leste!🇹🇱 Respeito aos LGBT!🏳️🌈 Saudacões do Brasil!🇧🇷
@loveandfaithfulness4479
Жыл бұрын
Satan, also called the adversary or the devil, is the enemy of all righteousness and of those who seek to follow God. he and his followers try to lead us away from righteousness. he has many schemes to mislead and turn man from God. satan attempts to undermine us by confusing gender, promoting sexual relations outside of marriage, ridiculing marriage, and discouraging childbearing by married adults who would otherwise raise children in righteousness. The Bible condemns any form of sexual act that is considered “worthless” in God's eyes. homosexuality, beastiality, fornication, and adultery. They say it’s all love and everything, but really there is no true love, they are just looking for lust. God made man & woman as a perfect couple to be fruitful, multiply and replenish the earth. This was given by God not freely chosen. Going against His image & His design is going against Him. we aren't here to change the word of God the word of God is here to change us, What are the actual "fruits"-the results-of the homosexual lifestyle? Can't naturally have biological kids, Diseases, Suffering, Unfulfillment, Nothingness! homosexual activity leads to a host of serious transmitted diseases (STDs) HIV, fatal transmitted Infections, and physical health problems, mental health problems, major depression, anxiety, substance abuse and greater risk of suicidal and a greatly shortened lifespan and the suffering list goes on. Why are there so many diseases? Why such young deaths? It has to do with the sexual practices. It goes against how God created bodies to work. And when you violate God’s design, there are always consequences. Same-sex attraction is always an expression of the fallen nature. But if you repent now, God forgiveness starts the process and His power continues to work in us, when we say yes to Him. But when we fail to listen to God, then problems, affliction and suffering will be the consequence of disobedience. I say this lovingly and to say truth in love is to love one another. Do not value your homosexuality Sin more than you value God. The only hope for the homosexual and all people who break God's laws is to turn to Christ. If we want to walk with Christ we must repent and reject our fleshly desires and deny ourselves. God can Save you from that horrible life and community. God promises the Strength for Victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation.
I am here because of Seagames 2019. Bless you Timor Nation. #Gender Equalality
So they speak Portuguese in public speaking?
I disagree with one thing the lady said in the video when she was talking about God,she said God created us all all,now if there is a God that may be true,however the religious right would say she is wrong and those people where influenced by the devil and "turned gay".
@coyowolf4609
4 жыл бұрын
philosophicalreason but new Christian thinking (in all branches) acknowledge the science of sexual attraction and know it’s not influence or a choice. As much as those stuck with teachings of fear and hate from 1200ad want to believe it’s the devil.
@Captain_Of_A_Starship
4 жыл бұрын
@@coyowolf4609 No they don't, the "science" is correctly looked at as flawed phycology theory, not science.
@rfgalaxy7694
8 ай бұрын
I'm timorese and I agree with you how can a new independent country fall for this especially a Christian country this isn't what our veterans fought for imagine they see our country rn they rather drop their gun and fought with Indonesia instead
@user-qx4zb9yt1w
6 ай бұрын
@@rfgalaxy7694yeah they actually blaspheming Trinity God for thinking that God love the LGBT, NO God love human not the think or action of LGBT.
Yassss. Better days are coming. It just a matter of time.
love you Timorese
I put a like to the effort of the reporter who spoke the local language
@bastianyan715
5 жыл бұрын
tanya braun She actually spoke Indonesian not local and as perceived that Timor was occupied by Indonesia for 24 years. It’s predominantly that local people can speak Indonesian very well even their schools still have it to learn
@liliksugiyarto2551
5 жыл бұрын
surprisingly many timorese still fluent speak in indonesian language, even they are like native indonesian
Respect
If only XY = Male and only XX = female then how do we account for XO, XXY, XYY, XXYY, XXXY, XY/XO,,....
It's like Brazil transplanted to Southeast Asia, surreal
Aaaaah this is so nice thank you for always making this kind of video it makes me restore a little bit of faith in humanity :') jadi pengen cepet keluar dari indonesia,,
@aazizpratama2683
5 жыл бұрын
Frans Frans iya, semoga cepat dpt uang biar keluar, dan waktu udh keluar nanti jadi sadar. Kalau untuk merubah sesuatu ke arah yg lebih progresif, ga perlu dilakukan dengan spreading negativity.
@timango0
5 жыл бұрын
@@aazizpratama2683 yes!!
@timango0
5 жыл бұрын
@arif mark007 nice nice gw pengen sekolah di jerman semoga mimpi kita bisa tercapai 🤝
@andreas2042
5 жыл бұрын
@arif mark007 Katanya di video sebelah, kamu udah pindah disana. Kok disini bilangnya mau pindah ?
@timango0
5 жыл бұрын
@raja klana rencananya sih pengen ke jerman untuk kuliah ^.^
Timor-Leste is moving forward. No doubt 👍
What language are they speaking besides english?
@anggamaulanaadhasitorus2260
5 жыл бұрын
bahasa
@novitaagatha2535
5 жыл бұрын
nayahri bahasa (indonesia) and tetun (timor leste) im timorese btw😅
@nayahri
5 жыл бұрын
@@novitaagatha2535 Aaaah, very cool. Thanks for the info!
@misstangocortez5295
5 жыл бұрын
Most timorese could speak Tetum (their own laguange, mostly mixed with portuguese) Portuguese ( second official language), English and Indonesian.
@tacyasantos6429
3 жыл бұрын
Portuguese and Indonesia
Omg i feel sorry for the dog he's so skinny 😥
i adore the host. whats her name?
@Jilamm
5 жыл бұрын
Kathleen Malay
@tashtyvibes8359
5 жыл бұрын
@@Jilamm well, shes different from what i saw in this video.
@egyptrockify
5 жыл бұрын
@iannisxanaxis
@kiboman4341
5 жыл бұрын
@@tashtyvibes8359 she's absolute gorgeous with her long hair, if you you ever seen it.
@tashtyvibes8359
5 жыл бұрын
@@kiboman4341 even with short hair, she's gorgeous but i didnt expect she will look like that in her Instagram . totally the other way around. haha
All of this people are beautifull by their own way
Mereka menghujat Allah Tritunggal dengan membuat parade mendukung LGBT, serius ini penghujatan terhadap kekudusan Allah Tritunggal.
@avarein8941
Ай бұрын
Mereka tidak peduli dengan agama
@user-qx4zb9yt1w
Ай бұрын
@@avarein8941 kalo begitu ya harusnya mereka jangan bawa-bawa agama
@heceklesaputratarihoran4890
Ай бұрын
Orang-orang ini akan pergi ke neraka Meskipun mereka dalam lingkup Gereja Katolik
@heceklesaputratarihoran4890
Ай бұрын
Lgbt haram di Alkitab lihat kitab Imamat
@heceklesaputratarihoran4890
Ай бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭 kenapa ini terjadi 😢😢😢😢😢
I love how Catholic sisters are joining the parade. That's Christianity, all about love. 😇💜
@coolstoolgames8374
9 ай бұрын
Nope
@user-qx4zb9yt1w
6 ай бұрын
Don't use Christianity love for this kind of bullshit, chriatianity love the people NOT the LGBT itself.
In this case, Indonesia is eight
@KabobHope
4 жыл бұрын
Eight, what?
@s21b0b
3 жыл бұрын
@@KabobHope def typo, *right
Yahhh setidaknya kalian lebih open minded. Ga banyak yg radikal.
@TediKuswara-fh2uf
Ай бұрын
LGBTQI....mengurangi kepadatan penduduk timles....
They are human..
"Homo sexuality is normal" 😱😱😱 Its crazy Its means gemblong
@TediKuswara-fh2uf
Ай бұрын
Program timles untuk mengurangi jumlah penduduk...?
More power to then ✊
@AMVfanboy14
5 жыл бұрын
No this is bad.
@anastasiaarmitage
5 жыл бұрын
@@AMVfanboy14 you are bad
Kayak di desa saya panggung terbuka...
Ketika lomba lari tangannya melambai di sangka nyerah hahahahaha
Masih lancar bahasa indonesia
kaum yg dirindukan pedang sayyidina umar
I was in thisssss
Merdeka demi untuk LGBT 😅😅 Jangan harap LGBT tumbuh subur kalau masih gabung indonesia.
@heceklesaputratarihoran4890
Ай бұрын
Jujur bang aku kecewa dengan timor leste 😢😢😢 padahal di alkitab Lgbt haram bang, Tuhan berfirman di kitab imamat tapi kenapa sekarang banyak menentang Tuhan 😢😢😢😢😢
As an asexual Indonesia girl No matter who you love or yourself You're amazing keep fighting and shut those hatred voice around you!
@abrahamreinss1349
10 ай бұрын
apasih bego , mereka negara yang udah miskin ,bukannya urus ekonomi malah urus alat kelamin bawa2 nama tuhan pula. Tidak heran paus membatalkan misa di sana. Mereka tidak belajar dari masa lalu? Kalau katanya bisa kaya oleh amerika karena bor minyak namun lihat lah sekarang. Dan mereka terkena paham barat ke dua kalinya
@abrahamreinss1349
10 ай бұрын
assexual2 emgnya lu tanaman yg bisa di stek dan dipasan ke batang stress kali fokus blajar sono. Lu dari bilang kalau u pelangi udah bukan indo lagi
@gak1212
10 ай бұрын
@@abrahamreinss1349 iyek bang sya tanaman hidup awkokokwk
@68poundercarronade
8 ай бұрын
Umur kamu 12 tahun ya
@user-ei1fv9us7s
5 ай бұрын
Stupid
Why we don't talk about our duties and it seems to me that we and the big cooperation media obsessed with the Right of human, What about responsibility? We have the responsibility to let people live their private life as we all die and with all the noises of so-called rights. Come on, they are doing sex , not killing or raping each other. Stop this nonsense and talk about some important stuff give them AIR TIME such as CLIMATE CHANGE, POVERTY, THE FUTURE OF FOOD..
@GohanSSJII
5 жыл бұрын
Agree 10k%
Untung Timor Leste sudah lepas dari Indonesia
😮bahasa harian ya ada dua ya?
MAKE INDONESIA INVADE IT AGAIN 🤑🤑🤑🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
Vice rocks 👍
Maaf sebagai Kristen ingin jujur saya kecewa dengan Timor Leste Maaf sebelumnya saya ingin memberitahu Kalau Anda membaca Alkitab hubungan homoseksual atau sesama jenis itu adalah haram di Alkitab Imamat Tuhan memperingatkan bahwasanya orang seperti itu harus dihukum rajam tapi saya kecewa dengan Timor Leste saya benar-benar kecewa banget Saya ingin mengatakan umat muslim semuanya Tuhan berfirman lgbt masuk neraka kekristenan mengatakan lgbt itu haram Rasul Paulus pun mengajarkan hubungan seperti ini akan membawa jiwa kita ke neraka baca kisah para rasul Saya kecewa dengan gereja sekarang Tuhan mengatakan lgbt masuk neraka tapi kenapa iblis bisa mencari celah di gereja😢😢😢
Proud? This is very disappointed to know that Timor Leste support LGBT community, as a timorense people I hope that LGBT illegal in east timor... Hanesan Timor oan buat ne estraga Kultura, religiaun , nain maromak halo O mane ne mane Laos atu Sai fali feto, disappointed! May God forgive us 🙏🏻
@carlag.9914
6 ай бұрын
Gila kamu
Sodom and Gomorrah are born again, this is the millennial version
LGBT estraga gerasaun no kultura
Cewe,cowo rupanya sama ,tidak ku bisa beda kan mana cewe mana cowo😂
@Ghostly050
7 ай бұрын
Sedang mencari : Tutorial membedakan cewek dan cowok
awh hell nawh
be gay! heterosexuality is so 2006
🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
mantab Timor Leste menjadi Timor Lotste, tinggal nunggu musnah :)
@adrianwakeisland4710
Жыл бұрын
Seperti apa yg terjadi di aceh dan donggala?
@nomad1789
9 ай бұрын
@@adrianwakeisland4710 jangan keras2, kasian dia 😂
You guys have the best Kratom *F*
Preetttt
Wtf
God? Blessing your event? BAHAHAHAHA
@user-qx4zb9yt1w
6 ай бұрын
Ikr, they were idiots to believing that. God is loving his creation not what they want in LGBT.
I'm from Timor and this is disgusting. Timor used to be a sane country but now it's messed up 🤮🤮🤮
@avarein8941
Ай бұрын
Don't worry, it happened too in the US. You're not alone👍
TL pecinta lubang Tokai
One of reason, why GOD did not give blessing to TL.
@adrianwakeisland4710
2 жыл бұрын
Indonesia is more frequently hit by azab than timor leste. We agree what you said against timor leste if indonesia is the least corrupt country in the whole world and indonesian economy in general is as progressive and developed as japan!
@strictlysunny
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t be a Winxer if you’re going to be against those rights 😍
@nomad1789
9 ай бұрын
@@adrianwakeisland4710 such an epic come back 😂
Pecinta lobang eek
Damn they speak Indonesia. 😵😵😵
@tacyasantos6429
3 жыл бұрын
We speak 3 language English, Indonesian, Portuguese and tetum (main language of East Timor)
@maryocecilyo3372
2 жыл бұрын
@@tacyasantos6429 🤮
@adrianwakeisland4710
2 жыл бұрын
@@tacyasantos6429 english in timor leste is like spanish in the philippines.
Maromak tulun imi par mate 🗿 🏳️🌈 🖕
Babii😅😅
LGTV 🗿
a country with a bad moral state
udah dibuatin patung Yesus memberkati masih aja kelakuan nya gini 😢
@ohiz8128
Ай бұрын
sekarang saya mengerti kenapa banyak orang menjadi seorang Muslim di Barat sana 😅
@TediKuswara-fh2uf
Ай бұрын
Umat bebal
@heceklesaputratarihoran4890
Ай бұрын
Maaf sebagai Kristen ingin jujur saya kecewa dengan Timor Leste Maaf sebelumnya saya ingin memberitahu Kalau Anda membaca Alkitab hubungan homoseksual atau sesama jenis itu adalah haram di Alkitab Imamat Tuhan memperingatkan bahwasanya orang seperti itu harus dihukum rajam tapi saya kecewa dengan Timor Leste saya benar-benar kecewa banget Saya ingin mengatakan umat muslim semuanya Tuhan berfirman lgbt masuk neraka kekristenan mengatakan lgbt itu haram Rasul Paulus pun mengajarkan hubungan seperti ini akan membawa jiwa kita ke neraka baca kisah para rasul Saya kecewa dengan gereja sekarang Tuhan mengatakan lgbt masuk neraka tapi kenapa iblis bisa mencari celah di gereja😢😢😢
hewan aja masih bisa bedain
poor and gay i am glad they r not part of indo
@WorstChannelE
6 ай бұрын
fr
@TediKuswara-fh2uf
Ай бұрын
I a gree
this not culture of asia
@shobavsrajan7601
5 жыл бұрын
One word, Khajuraho temples. And LGBT literature in Asia has existed for long. It was just supressed
@niniksetiawan6034
2 жыл бұрын
Most Asians who study their own history and culture will disagree with you...
@coolstoolgames8374
9 ай бұрын
@@shobavsrajan7601I hope we suppress it again
🤮
@youngsavag666
5 жыл бұрын
Gaven Erickson im with you buddy 🤮🤮🤮
@kluger2222
5 жыл бұрын
Homophobic shit spotted
🤢
Negara ini saya suka. Mudah-mudahan ada yang baru lagi menghibur dan memberi contoh baik bagi semua orang jika yang mau, dan yang tidak mau, biar saja. Jangan terlalu pikir lama karena yang lama lebih kaya dari yang kau pikir-pikir di otakmu.
Maaf sebagai Kristen ingin jujur saya kecewa dengan Timor Leste Maaf sebelumnya saya ingin memberitahu Kalau Anda membaca Alkitab hubungan homoseksual atau sesama jenis itu adalah haram di Alkitab Imamat Tuhan memperingatkan bahwasanya orang seperti itu harus dihukum rajam tapi saya kecewa dengan Timor Leste saya benar-benar kecewa banget Saya ingin mengatakan umat muslim semuanya Tuhan berfirman lgbt masuk neraka kekristenan mengatakan lgbt itu haram Rasul Paulus pun mengajarkan hubungan seperti ini akan membawa jiwa kita ke neraka baca kisah para rasul Saya kecewa dengan gereja sekarang Tuhan mengatakan lgbt masuk neraka tapi kenapa iblis bisa mencari celah di gereja😢😢😢
Maaf sebagai Kristen ingin jujur saya kecewa dengan Timor Leste Maaf sebelumnya saya ingin memberitahu Kalau Anda membaca Alkitab hubungan homoseksual atau sesama jenis itu adalah haram di Alkitab Imamat Tuhan memperingatkan bahwasanya orang seperti itu harus dihukum rajam tapi saya kecewa dengan Timor Leste saya benar-benar kecewa banget Saya ingin mengatakan umat muslim semuanya Tuhan berfirman lgbt masuk neraka kekristenan mengatakan lgbt itu haram Rasul Paulus pun mengajarkan hubungan seperti ini akan membawa jiwa kita ke neraka baca kisah para rasul Saya kecewa dengan gereja sekarang Tuhan mengatakan lgbt masuk neraka tapi kenapa iblis bisa mencari celah di gereja😢😢😢