JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT TONIGHTS VIDEO....AS IM SURE PEOPLE WILL ASK These are prices based upon where i live (Warwickshire) and the prices that i am happy charging my customers, in no way is it a guide to what YOU should charge. I hope you enjoyed the video, if so give it a like, get subscribed and drop me a comment below....

@rastageordie7338

2 жыл бұрын

Can you not go underneath the bathroom to change the valve surly easier to take the celling boards down then take the bath out tiles etc

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@rastageordie7338 it’s a little tricky below as it’s the kitchen with units on the walls etc etc… would struggle to get to the area we would need…. But it’s an option👍🏼

@davidtaylor7119

2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic insight into a jobbing plumber and getting work quoted up. Your experience pays dividends. For comparison like you asked for on the jobs you looked at I would be at. 1st job waste pipe £55 -£70 2nd job shower and Labour £210 - £250 3rd job bathroom suite £5300 - £5700 Just out of curiosity did those prices include VAT? Think this is a great video for trades but also customers to see what skilled trades charge so what to expect. Spot on mark 👍👊🤟

@delboy6384

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up, I’m moving into your area real quick!!

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidtaylor7119 thanks mate…. That’s a great comparison…… out of interest where abouts are you?? That doesn’t include VAT as I’m not VAT registered…😉👍🏼

These videos are so helpful in more ways that one for a diyer like me. Not only do We learn how things are done, why things happen and how to repair them.. Also the terminology. I had no idea a blending valve existed! Thanks for all the help

@MJTiffPlumbing

11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

The pricing, chasing around and getting everything sorted takes so much time people don’t realise, great insight for people, take care, hope you get the job and get the chance to film it. 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter…… yep it’s the time people don’t see

Bathrooms always take longer and cost more than any inexperienced person will ever realise because they are normally a small room that you cannot fit more than 1 or 2 people into at the same time. They also often involve, carpentry, plastering, boarding, tanking, electrics, plumbing, sometimes gas, tiling, painting, underfloor heating, flooring, etc. it is by far the trickiest room in a house to renovate. On top of that everything needs to be water proof, leak free and there are specific zones for electrics. For those guys saying it should be around £4k, you are welcome to do all my bathrooms for me but you will be out of business within a year or 2. Remember that loads of plumbers are self employed so they are not paid when off sick or on holiday and there is still insurance for vans, tools, fuel, etc.

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

Exactly mate 👍🏼👍🏼

@nicotoscani1707

6 ай бұрын

am working on a toilet room with a rising damp problem.. removed the skirting and found a bunch of black mould there cos the plaster and insulating barrier had been installed before laying the concrete flooring

👍 Thank you again. Honesty goes a long way. Plan to start out on my own soon in a few months. Your videos, when I have time to watch, have been a massive help.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Martin, that’s great me… hope it goes well

Really appreciate this video… no one teaches you about pricing so this is a great help for people just starting out by themselves👍🏼

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it…👍🏼👍🏼

@poufdaddy326

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing a break down on how you went about pricing the barn conversion would be a good insight with the much larger jobs as well👍🏼…

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@poufdaddy326 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

With the bath I usually tell them that the ceiling below would be the cheapest option as the tiles would probably need to be totally removed and swapped for a near match or complete change.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, that’s an option….. if it’s even in the floor

@Plumbingbob

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing yeah that’s the nature of that kind of job though unfortunately

If you took the bath tap out, you could potentially thread an inspection camera down the hole along the pipes and see if the mixer valve is close by.

@kendom33

6 ай бұрын

Good idea. Or a thermal camera to trace the pipes

Forget about the plumbing, the editing skills are phenomenal! Great Video Mate had me hooked from the intro.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou mate, I really appreciate comments about the editing of my videos as I really do enjoy that part of it and it has to be perfect. I want to make something I would want to watch 👍🏼👍🏼

Great video Mark! Easily the best video you have done to date imo! Always good to get an insight into what other trades charge and how things are priced up. Keep it up mate! 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate…. Glad you liked it 👍🏼👍🏼

@Tony91177

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing Would love more videos like this mate. I’m sure plenty of others would too. You’ll be hitting 50k subs in no time 😉🤙

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tony91177 thanks mate….. just let me know what you want to see and I will see what I can do

really great content mark bang on the button and makes us realise in the valleys how we sell our self short keep up the good vid, as previously said go in through ceiling or thermal image camera as you already know till the next one

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike….. costings is all area relevant aswell mate👍🏼👍🏼

Thanks mate ,I'm just starting out on the bathroom side of things,done many bathrooms but for family and friends and this Is helpful.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it mate👍🏼👍🏼

Totally agree with your pricing….i go in with a mid to high end bathroom refurb around 10-12k. Fully high end £15k upwards. Also would recommend and extractor fan if theres not one there👍🏼

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

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What a nightmare that first bathroom was, whoever sanctioned that wants sacking, no thought whatsoever for any future maintenance, enjoyed the video, thanks 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 ай бұрын

Thanks mate glad you liked it

Great video mate. Enjoyed this, very thorough process for your pricing. As I am new in the trade and retraining it’s great to get a feel for costs . Subscribed 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

Great video Mark, great to hear you breakdown the work 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate

Thanks excellent as always.I’m doing level 2 plumbing . You are a legend

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it👍🏼

Great video, so helpful and completely understandable. Keep up the good work and videos 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate….

Thanks for this Mark asked for this few weeks ago when u did a video wanting suggestions just shows u appreciate our comments

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sam…. Glad you enjoyed it. Always want to try and give the people who watch a voice and if I can help then I will 👍🏼👍🏼

Brilliant video as always! Dont know if it helps but I have twice found a blending valve under freestanding bath next to the waste!

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m hoping for 🤞🏼🤞🏼

Don’t know if anybody else has commented on this as I haven’t got the time to go through over 300 comments, but an infrared sensor may well show the position of a valve (future job), depending on how much heat is going through the pipe. I have just used a Flir unit connected to my phone, to trace pipework in my flooring and it worked surprisingly well. Not particularly cheap, but for a pro you would likely recover the cost fairly quickly and it would save you a ton of hassle!

It's great to see a plumber explain how pricing a job works. When I was an apprentice, I was always very keen to know everything about learning about how to do the manual side of the job. Working with tools and producing a great job was all that I concentrated on - and I actually became very good at it. But, the problem came when I found myself working for firms that were charging the customer the going rate, yet I wasn't earning much more than if I just got a shelf stacking job in Sainburys. I did eventually go self-employed, but I was still sub-contracting for massive firms. I did see my pay packet vastly improve when I did this, but the problem I found by doing that, was that when the work dried up, then so did my job. And because I had put all my eggs in one basket I was no better off. Even having a few grand saved in the bank will very rapidly disappear when you can't find a new situation. I just wished I'd been able to build up my own business without always being in someone else's pocket all the time.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

I hear you mate, it’s tough and the only way to make good money is by going it on your own, but that comes with pros and cons as we all know… What are you doing now??

Love the window in the bath/shower I bet the neighbours have a great show every morning/night

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

If they had neighbours🤣 It was obviously frosted before it was all handed over 😉

Good video and you covered a helluva lot there. You will be relieved to hear I have no questions or novel suggestions (because I have read the other comments😉) - however on that first video with the warm water at the bath - if the thermal imaging camera suggests the thermostatic block is under the tap - then I would suggest a quick up and under is probably worth it even if you have to take down kitchen cupboard(s) - it’s not just about being cost effective it’s also about being time effective.😉👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Norman 👍🏼

Thanks for this video, really interesting to watch some else pricing. I’d have been in the exact same ball park for the bathroom

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks James….. 👍🏼👍🏼… glad you enjoyed it mate

Great Video. Really interesting to see your pricing. Ive done a lot bathrooms over the years and do the whole lot myself. I was around the same price too! Quoted for loads recently where I’ve been £3000more! I’ve quoted for 12days and other guys say it will take 6days only for me to get called out when there new bathroom isn’t working correctly! Builders cutting of vents and piping toilet straight into soil stack is my favourite 🤣🤣🤣

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, glad you liked it

great well balanced video keep up the good work on pricing these jobs.

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy

Very honest to share the realities of quoting! So many will say can be done cheaper quicker etc but if it was such an amazing deal plumbers would be queuing up to fit bathrooms but they are not!

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

Indeed mate

You could try borrowing a thermal imaging camera may tell you where the hot pipe goes into blending valve then goes colder after then just need to remove a few tiles hopefully? Worth a try. Glad you liked my suction pads ideas for the shower trays in the barn a few months back. Keep up the good vids and prices are good from another plumber 👍🏻

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

I will be using my thermal camera on it…Someone mentioned that earlier and I didn’t even think of it…(it was even in the van)🤣

Am learning quite a lot from you m8,stay Blessed 🙌

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou mate, glad your enjoying it

7-8k was my guess depending on quality of fittings. This would be for bulk standard fittings. This is why as a landlord I take on most of the work myself only using a plumber and a sparky for speed when necessary and also a Plasterer to skim coat my boarding. Doing it my way the job would take 3 weeks to do and only cost me about 3.2k total. About 1200 for a plumber, 230 plasterer, 400 for sparky installing extraction fan etc the materials being about 1400. My time is obviously free and it would be a good free weeks from start to finish to complete. I expect you would get it done in a week, depending on the plastering

Great content as ever. Well done you letting us know your pricing there’s more to it than materials and labour. Visit to site costing guarantee etc etc. No shame in charging for what your worth. Cowboys would charge same or more for poor work. Keep up the good work. All the best Pete 👍👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate

Hi Mark, Another brilliant film, thank you for making this film. Most trades/tradesmen on KZread appear to be apprehensive about discussing their price and how they cost their work/labour etc. This has been a brilliant insight, I understand that prices will vary in different areas of the country, like you said in the film. The bath tap job sounds like a ball ache, the thermal camera sounds like a good starting point. I look forward to the next film, take care, as always, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Really glad you liked it Chris, and yes I thought people would like to see the pricing of some jobs as it’s not usually put out there. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

It’s a great idea to ask the customer ‘their budget’ for a job👍👍 Where lots of guys/gals fail at Estimating jobs is ensure they cover their overheads fully. Advice I was given about 45 years ago; calculate all your overheads & double that figure. DON’T GO BY WHAT OTHER PEOPLE CHARGE AS YOUR LABOUR RATE!!! Calculate your own Labour Rate, it’s no hard. Also another lesson I learned early on, look at your material & Labour ‘Mark Up’ in different ways, it can make a big difference to your final total for the job. There’s a tendency to add a smaller MU on materials(as Mark said 15-20%), but depending on the ratio of Labour & Material on the job, it can make a world of difference!! Thanks Mark👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly right mate……👍🏼👍🏼 Glad so many people are liking this video, the likes of me and you it comes pretty second nature but hopefully this helped some who are struggling 👍🏼

@seanmolyneux6165

2 жыл бұрын

Your either a tradesman earning a wage or a business man using your trade to make money. The sooner you realise the latter the better

@plumbertime

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanmolyneux6165 love that quote. I’m having it 😂👌🏻👍

Good breakdowns, props for being upfront and laying it all out. That's a smart move to kick off with the "basic but not cheap" complete package for the bathroom, then see if the client wants upgrades. I'm wondering if you give people a timeline of sorts, as in it will take 8 working days or whatever your estimate is? Do you work off a daily or weekly price for yourself, that includes all your operating cost, margins etc? Or more directly the number you feel comfortable with (“3000 will make this worth my while”). I find the troubleshooting and problemsolving really interesting, I would love to see the follow up on that bath/tap situation - what turned out to be the issue, and where it was all located?

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

For a straight forward bathroom I usually allow a 2 week turn around….. never usually go over that

Can you do more videos about pricing please. Perhaps pricing smaller jobs too...I.e replacing taps, fitting outside taps etc. Cheers

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

I will do over time I guess….. 👍🏼👍🏼

Another brilliant video. I liked the fact that you did talk about pricing etc. For me it is always a big struggle to price up jobs. Never sure what to charge the labour part. What to price for say: swap inlet valve in toilet and what to charge for boiler straight swap? Materials wise I am not bad but my labour costs I am always shy and underprice myself

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it mate 👍🏼👍🏼

@disklamer

2 жыл бұрын

Consider this: "What is a working toilet worth to the customer?" Of course they're happy if it's only 50, but maybe it costs 200? Or even 1000? The client has no idea, so just be realistic. Ask enough that you can comfortably do the job, and give good service. You'll never regret a fair take.

Cracking vid very good and very interesting keep up the good work.👍👍👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou mate 👍🏼👍🏼

I look at it like this. If any potential customer thinks it's too overpriced, then ask them to source the carpenter, plasterer and electrician. Maybe even floorlayer, tiler, etc. Sorting out other trades in, can be a nightmare! As they'd no doubt find : ) First and foremost, you're a plumber....not a small builder. And if the job requires other trades, then i'd place it in the latter category! Interesting video, Mark. Enjoyed watching it. It certainly generated a diverse array of comments, lol.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian… yer some great comments and also some interesting ones about pricing. Exactly why I made the video👍🏼👍🏼

Very informative pal, Top bloke 👍🏻

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼

Spot on, great advice, 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Lee 👍🏼

I'm looking at doing a very similar job on my own bathroom, at around 5k in labour I'm glad I can do it all myself (minus plastering)

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

You will save a few quid👍🏼👍🏼

Well done mate! A new Subscriber here! Keep up the good work 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate and welcome to the channel

@danieliosub7249

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing Thank you! Please if i would send you few pictures and explain you through a message vocale,what needs to be done,would u be able to help me quote for a bathroom to be refurbished?

Here we go, pricing as I watch before you reveal Mark. Sitting here with my son who’s a second year plumbing apprentice and asking him too so he gets a feel for pricing. Repair the soil attach with new boss and inch and a quarter solvent pipe back to basin £180 plus VAT inc materials.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼….. very similar to my quote

Hi, love the videos. Question - are you fully qualified recognized or are you experienced trained? looking to get into the industry but only want to do the intensive course of 1st and 2nd fixing a bathroom suite ect. I'm looking to get into smaller jobs really, just a tick over for through the winter period as we go quiet then.

I've come across that problem with the bath tap running Luke warm Mark, turned out to be the tap cartridge - it seemed to allowing the cold to run into the hot side. Try turning the hot water off and open the tap on hot only and see if you get cold water bypassing. Worth a try 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Always worth a try 👍🏼👍🏼

@andybb

2 жыл бұрын

Me as well, and that was a plastic cartridge. Unusual to put a TMV on the bath and not on the basin, will there be an update on this job

Bath = access through downstairs ceiling = massive savings for the customer as apposed to alternative. 12.5mm 8x4foot plasterboard sheet would be more than enough to cover the bathrooms access needed. Repair access with said board and skim entire ceiling = 1 day plastering and plastering materials only £450.00 tops. I would not want to get involved in that tiling looking at the rest of the work you presented. Great video 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

All sorted now…. It’s in a video… interesting result

Interesting video. I have just renovated my own bathroom which involved moving the bath and the vanity basin to another part of the room so as to accomodate a separate walk in shower. The bath and toilet were in good condition so were reused but the vanity unit was falling to pieces so was replaced and of course there was the need to buy a shower enclosure and tray on top of the tiles, paint flooring and a heated towel rail. I haven't kept a tight tally of the costs but its around 1.5 - 2k. Taken me 3 months of mostly working weekends. Have saved a lot of money doing it myself. However I appreciate that it would be a different story doing the same work for as a professional. It's one thing doing it in your own property that you know well, know your requirements. Would be quite another doing the same work in someone else's property that you have never worked on before, having to assess what needs doing and not knowing what you are going to find.

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

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Last bathroom i done in Southampton was £8k on the dot. Bath out 1700 tray in,wet room shower screen, shower mixer, basin toilet vanity unit, 1200 towel rad. Aquaboard shower area and splash back, reskim walls and ceiling, move light switch to outside and extractor fan installed and waterproof Malmo click flooring.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Near on this price then buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

i always went through ceilings before lifting floors/tiles etc,so if thats an option could save your customer some dough,and easier to fix than a tiled floor :)

@MJTiffPlumbing

9 ай бұрын

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Interesting …. To be honest that price for the bathroom is reasonable, and I’m Bristol based, I might be just a little cheaper. It helps being transparent with the pricing so if the customer does query you have nothing to hide and don’t look like a rip off merchant. Great video mate. 👍🏻

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks James, interesting to know it’s a similar price your way…👍🏼 Glad you like the channel James and thanks for watching & commenting

@juliestreet8688

2 жыл бұрын

Similiar to me in Oldham although a lot of cowboys out there quoting under 5k. If customers budget is 5k I am nice about it but I dont even go and look.

@kurluk04

Жыл бұрын

I’m bristol based - I’d charge about 8 for this job - depending if customers want top tier utilities or a more basic set.

Great video this has really helped me as I’ve started going out on my own. Really appreciate you taking the time on these videos. Do you have any advice for someone starting out on there own. I don’t want to be under selling myself.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, glad you like the content. Advice would be work hard and build up a good name for yourself. Be on time

@PlumbingMaintenance

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing Thank you. Look forward to new content also any tools that you would recommend pricey or cheap don’t matter

Really enjoy your video’s mate

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Russ, glad you like the content mate

Some pillar bath taps have what is basically a ibox in the floor with the thermostatic mixer inside it. Given size of floor plate I’d say it’s that. So try take the tap out first.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, I did wonder if that may be the case hence taking the valve out to see if it was anything like that. Deffo worth a try….👍🏼👍🏼

At last a plumber who knows the right price and also what is involved The costing is on the mark Problem there is to many fools doing the same job for under 4k

@1Eagler

7 ай бұрын

How cam someone be a fool when he's doing the same job?

I usually cut the ceiling and fit plastic access panels to any maintenance parts.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Access from underneath is limited but it’s an option👍🏼

As an ex Kitchen & Bathroom fitter of 10 years experience, I like your honesty in the video Mark - no BS - just the honest facts of life. The bathroom job does sound a tad pricey? but I'm thinking your work is 5* - the customer must appreciate you do get what you pay for with tradesmen (& women of course!) - unfortunately with many European plumbers, the price starts low in the original quote, then escalates during the progress of the job and the standards aren't always the best - 'que sera sera' as the saying goes! Enjoyed watching your video matey, I'd be happy for you to quote for my job 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, that’s just what the channel is about, Real World Plumbing…. Showing it all as it is. Bathroom wise some people have said it’s too cheap, it’s all very different up and down the country for prices… Glad you liked the video buddy👍🏼👍🏼

Some freestanding taps have a temperature limiting cartridge fitted, it looks almost the same as the one on your flog except it has a red adjustable ring fitted around the blue tooth top of the cartridge, the original installer may have removed it or it could be the cartridge itself is knackered or the incorrect one is fitted.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly why I took this one out👍🏼….. it’s not a temp limiting one and still the temp is low so it points elsewhere…

I need to put my price up thanks for that vid

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, prices are very area dependant buddy

I did a bathroom a few years ago, similar thing with expensive tiles etc. A few weeks later I had a call back for a leak, required bath out to rectify and potential damage to tiles. My solution was to cut through wall from next door to gain access to pipework. The pipe had a pinhole 🤬🤬🤬 Much cheaper than removing everything. The customer was happy to pay for a builder to patch and re plaster the hole I created.

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

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Great video as always. I might have been watching a bit too much PB lately, but would a thermal imaging camera be an option for that bath mixer? Thanks for all the content and hope it keeps coming

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yep the thermal camera will be coming out this week on it😉

@JJ-bv7fc

2 жыл бұрын

Any recommendations of thermal cameras?

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@JJ-bv7fc Keep your eye out on my channel at 6pm tomorrow😉😉

Very interesting mark , I’m a “London plumber “ some of the things you’ve quoted for would get taken to the cleaners down here , you can imagine .😂 Very fair prices to be fair . Love your vids 👍🏻

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate…. Yer I can imagine some prices are crazy in London. Glad you enjoyed it mate 👍🏼👍🏼

I think you're spot on with the pricing for that bathroom. The people on here saying 4k haven't a clue I've just redone my bathroom myself (first time ever) its a little bigger than the one you've shown but not by loads. I did everything except the plastering so i know the true cost. It was similar to what you was going to do, ie: rip the tiles off, plaster, replaster the ceiling All the materials including the plasterer came to £4200. Its basically a £10k bathroom had i had it fitted by someone. By comparison the next door neighbor did his (himself) at exactly the same time. His cost £1300. But it looks a bodge, he's tiled over 3 sets of existing tiles and everything is basically a cover up instead of ripping out and starting fresh.. You get what you pay for

@MJTiffPlumbing

4 ай бұрын

Thanks mate 👍🏼

You could possibly try a thermal image camera to find that blender, it could just show it

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

That mate is a VERY VERY good shout…… 👏🏼👏🏼 I may well give that a try👍🏼

Really interesting to see the pricing of a complete refurbishment, hope to see more like this. What would be the price of installing a new unvented cylinder from an old vented system? Thanks

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Depends On so many things to be honest mate

love your honesty

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate 👍🏼🙏🏼

Great content Mark

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert 👍🏼👍🏼

Hey! Regarding bathroom renovation. How's about moving shower position to the opposite end. 1500 X 700mm tray with a 1000mm wet room slab of glass. Rather than a sliding door so no moving parts to go wrong. Alternatively, could go with an 800mm wet room glass with a 300mm flipper on the end, would give more elbow room to get in and out. Fantastic vids 👍 great work.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, that’s an option but the customer wanted a price for a full “cubicle” style. I like fitting the flipper screens, think they work well

@dannyp7791

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta go with what customer wants mate. I say spot on with those prices 🎯 down on south coast.

Camera then only need to drill some 10mm holes to put end in Don't remove tiled floor always ceiling underneath as plasterer can patch it in cheaply by feathering it in

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yep that’s an option, however it’s a fully fitted kitchen below with limited access due to unit positions etc…. Hopefully it’s just under the bath🤞🏼

I like the upfront frankness. Only experience can tell you what you’re up against. That bathroom I would say today around the 10k mark. 7.5k is a great price.

@MJTiffPlumbing

7 ай бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼thanks mate

Job 2, try a FLIR cam buddy run the hot on the basin and bath and try the cam from above and below hopefully you can see a blender from below, also try unscrewing the bath tap from the Mount and pull the tap out from the floor as far as it will go to see if they kinked the hot flex. Just a thought buddy, top vid👍.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, had a thermal camera on it in a follow up video… still no joy

Thanks, appreciate this, most trades are very cagey about their pricing. I was quite surprised by the price but I appreciate the amount of work that goes into it.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yer just wanted to give a little insight into it as I get asked a lot, and prices vary massively all over the country

Thanks mate.

2nd job is very similar to a block of new build flats we now look after, built 3 years ago and blending valves buried in walls. Absolutely mental, some of them don't have blending valves so they just turned the tank temperature down below legionella requirements. So many corners cut when it comes to new builds, no idea what developers are thinking.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a nightmare mate, honestly….. And the worse bit is you can’t price for something you don’t know

@effervescence5664

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing Yeah, I have to go to the block on Tuesday and find where the rising main has given up. All boxed in and likely run up the building in 28mm speed fit if the workmanship in the flats was the norm. If you're going to look for it though, get a thermal camera and run the hot out the outlets it'll make life much easier - remembering there's only supposed to be 1-1.5m between TMV and outlet it will give you an idea if they have indeed put it near the outlet or behind the hot outlet of the tank/ entrance to the bathroom. Those are the standard locations we have been finding for them in these new builds anyway.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@effervescence5664 good luck with that mate…. Yer will get the camera out and see what I can find

My hourly rate is 135 an hour. But with most of my work, I just come up with a price, I always go on the high end.. example 40 gallon water heater.. 1500-1700. That includes new flexes gas and water, gas shut off while using the existing earth quake straps and disposal of old unit..Iam located in L.A county , CA. South Bay Area.. a little pricing my way, keep up the great work

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Nice one Timothy 🙌🏼🙌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Hi mate Being a builder/plumber myself I mostly do repair work , a 100 % percent take tiles up as last resort . Go from ceiling below. Try and cut nice square holes between joist . As this looks better for the customer and also is easier/cheaper to repair and make good. Draw a square or cut round a wooden template with a multi tool . Also don’t cut to deep to avoid hitting cables or pipe work .

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment 👍🏼👍🏼

@Micktheadventurer

Жыл бұрын

​@M J Tiff Plumbing 😂😂😂😂 and don't forget to tie your shoelaces and put socks on

Try seeing what is underneath bracket, as in less damage if you come up thru ceiling [submarine] haha worth a go if nothing better🤙

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

Id be taking a tile up thats under the bath and try finding the tmv , if you find it jackpot, take it out and put bath back, no one would ever know you’ve been!

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

That’s where I will be starting I think

Go from underneath to find that blender mate then get the plasterer to repair make good might be a good shout Iv had that before

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yep that’s an option if we need it

Still watching but my thoughts on that ridiculous bath tap blender would be an infrared camera to chase the hot feed either under the tiles or from the ceiling below. Might give you a non destructive way to narrow it down.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yep thermal camera will be used this week to try and help the location…👍🏼

Great video!

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

Nice content mate, I admire your honesty and I clearly don’t charge enough😂👍🏻

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate 👍🏼👍🏼 Prices are all area relevant

Nice to see you fit and well again mark you where spot on with them prices I said 120-140 for that leak on the waste. That freestanding tap I would remove it from the floor and check the hot inlet isn't blocked if you can't get any adjustments on the main tap, there is usually a plastic ring you can turn to adjust the temperature on the main tap. Only an idiot would hide a blender, if there is a blender it's not under the sink behind them drawers is it?

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, nope the basin Pipework again just goes into the wall… but that is red hot. Thermal imaging camera is the next port of call, someone suggested it on here and I hadn’t even thought of that….. and it was sat in the van!!!

@adierob1

2 жыл бұрын

Good call thermal imaging camera mine has saved me a lot of time fault finding and from ripping things up 👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@adierob1 yep, handy tools….👍🏼👍🏼

Best running the bath tap hot feed pipe into a bucket to check the temperature and flow rate. Hopefully help narrow down the cause a bit better then. And if it is a hidden blending valve just sack off finding it. Price to run a fresh hot pipe from the basin to the bath tap. Maybe via the ceiling below for minimum disruption

@cixsmiley3618

7 ай бұрын

First thing to check is the hot and cold fed from the same source easy to do if there is 2 sources turn one off.

@cixsmiley3618

7 ай бұрын

Seen hot fed from the attic and cold from mains b4.

@cixsmiley3618

7 ай бұрын

That will be 3k please.

With the bath tap you may find it under the bath? Best thing i bought was an inspection camera (you can get cheap ones that work with your phone) that way you only need to do little damage in the ceiling below to see if it is in the floor? 👍🏻

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yep we are hoping it’s under the bath…. (And watch out for tomorrow nights video😉)

@vinylspinner87

2 жыл бұрын

Cane to say the same thing.. and those inspection cameras are so good. For around 20quid on eBay you can get a Wi-Fi one that connect to your phone. So handy for the price.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@vinylspinner87 will take a look👍🏼👍🏼

@vinylspinner87

2 жыл бұрын

They're awesome. Even has little adjustable led lights on the end too 👍 perfect for Plumbers and sparks

Awesome video this, hope you get the bath job, be cool to see what disasters lie beneath that floor given the "quality" of the builders other work. Do they have downlights in the room below? Can you stick an inspection camera up there and find the valve that way?

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yer that’s an option…. Fully fitted kitchen below so access would be tricky but another angle

Great video as always mate. Just catching up now. What about going from below the bathroom and having a bit of ceiling down? Probably been mentioned by someone else 😊

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, yer that’s an option, as is a thermal imagine camera to see if we can locate it…

@brighton_locksmith

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing that’s a good shout 👍🏼 Good luck with it bud 🤞🏼

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@brighton_locksmith cheers mate…🤞🏼

The waste pipe job £150 mornings work,the bath out,shower etc couple of days work possibly £400 labour but customer needs to source/supply tiles,also with new houses contractors are supposed to leave details of services water etc in a handover book they get, details of that t.m.v. could be in there.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

About the same on the waste job then buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

I’ve had dirt in the flexi of the tap before so the cold was overpowering the hot .

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Oh this is deffo a valve somewhere, all the other properties around have had a similar issue🙈 But thanks for the comment mate👍🏼

Bath. My way would be from room below. 80mm drilled hole in cieling take a look in void. or feel if pipes are blended yet. if not see what dirrection and drill hole further away then see if pipes are blended yet. after your done battern holes put cores back in, bit of filler. and access panel where valve is ( IF you even find it). They could have even brought pipes up under bath and back out. So Holes from below should be easyest and cheapest to start..Good Luck MT

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, thermal imaging it to hopefully see if I can find it, failing that access below is an option aswell

@englishrifleman6556

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing Now that would be ideal (Thermal Image) i hadnt even thought of that. Good Shout

Great video, gonna subscribe 👍 With the bath, would it not have been easier to go up through the ceiling below? Much easier and cheaper to repair.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate…. Below is a fully fitted kitchen so would struggle, also it turns out that it’s had a camera put into the ceiling a few months back with no joy… sadly. This is going to be fun that’s for sure!!

Great video mate. Stupid question about the blending valve issue but would it not be easier to pop the cellings below to find it then make good cellings, replaster and paint? No tile matching etc??

@stevenlee5353

2 жыл бұрын

Or as it has downlights can you pop one or two daom and put a small camera up and look for the pipe work then follow it??

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yep there options as others have said👍🏼👍🏼

Soil waste pipe leak fix seems very expensive. You said £25 for parts and an hours work and you’re charging £140? Even if the parts were £40 that’s £100 an hour! I had some external pipe work sorted, few fixings, new bit of pipe, 1 hours work and was charged £70. Also had a new bathroom refit, everything replaced, 900 x 900 shower and cubicle, toilet, sink, towel rail, shower boards all round the room, new ceiling and Lino flooring. £5500 for all that. Plumbers are a lot more expensive down south! Nice content and interesting channel to watch.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

As said, prices are different all over the country. It’s not “very expensive” for this area…. Infact if that job was done in London it would be “very very cheap”. It’s all relative and that’s why I’ve put this content out, it’s interesting to see constructive comments. Glad you like the content👍🏼

@belinda7073

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing yes it’s a great channel with great content. Really interesting to watch and have learnt several things from your videos. Good to see how jobs are priced up as well as some people won’t want to share these things.

Hi Mark, really enjoying the vids, on this one, was there a reason you didn't use the bath taps to put in a bar shower and forget the dreaded electric shower??

@MJTiffPlumbing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy….. can’t remember what it was tbh

When you whip that bath out youv got the area that the bath covers to make access to find the mixer !! I bet its bang under the bath tiles

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully 🤞🏼🤞🏼

It does take a lot of time looking at jobs and getting prices and putting it all togrether . Takes up a lot of your time as well If customers wanted to pay you your hourly rate domyou have a figure for that 👍👍👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t do a renovation on an hourly rate to be perfectly honest. Time sorting/pricing etc is the bit people don’t see

@johnwaby4321

2 жыл бұрын

Yep got that . But one of my customers supplies all the parts and juts wanted to know what are hourly rate is so she can keep an eye on the costing to date . So has anyone just ask you for your hourly rate on a job 🤔

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnwaby4321 what job is it????

@johnwaby4321

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing it's just a job I have been doing on two cottages but the spec keeps changing so it was easier to hive the client an hourly rate 👍👍

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnwaby4321 yep, sometimes an hourly/day rate works better….. like the barn renovation I’m currently on. That’s dayrate for me.. as it’s a pain.

I think that perfectly reasonable, end of the day if you do an amazing job ect you have organise the job, go get the materials ect ect. I think this is reasonable price. Problem is people just do not understand how much things cost and nobody’s running a charity, had a customer the other day wanting a job done kind of the same as this they would supply the suite but only wanted to spend 2.5-3k to fit as they had seen that online/Facebook

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, this was exactly why I’ve done this, to give a little insight into it….

@kylebrowning7469

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing I’ve just priced a wetroom -11k but using great stuff. And when you’re fitting premium stuff I believe you should be able to charge a premium, no ones changing a boiler for £250 are they even if it takes them 1/2 a day

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly Kyle……. 👍🏼👍🏼 That’s sounds about right for a wet room where I am 👍🏼👍🏼

@kylebrowning7469

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing no every goes for it and that’s their choice but it’s the markets we choice I suppose

Can you not investigate the bath pipework from the ceiling below then patch and paint the ceiling below rather than tiles? Brilliant video by the way glad you talked about pricing. Honest and fair prices from a quality tradesman.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

It’s an option but it’s a fully fitted kitchen below🙈🙈

@markrichardson8442

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking.👍🏼

@bobcat9754

2 жыл бұрын

Thats exactly what i would do, even if you have to drill say 65mm holes inbetween each joist, get yourself a set of super-rods , you only need four red ones, and a ferrett camera, slide it through the holes it has a light, is very small and will enable you to inspect under the floor, when your finished screw the bits of ceiling back in and fill. I'll bring mine down and show you if you want. I'm a sparks by the way but love your channel.

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, this has been discussed to try and keep disruption down about….. trust me, I don’t want to be taking it all out at all🤣🤣

@steve-fx2ez

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJTiffPlumbing doh! Infrared camera to trace it if you or a mate already own one? I'm out of ideas good luck lol.

Re that bath, could you use a infa red/ heat tracking camera and trace it that way, maybe from the ceiling from below even? Should be a good temp gradient up to the mixer.

Nice video pal. Tbh bathrooms are a pain to price personally, that's helped alot listening to this. Great video 👍 Are you based in the south ?

@MJTiffPlumbing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy, glad you found it useful. I’m in the midlands, Warwickshire