The accuser ended up murdering her boyfriend a few years later. He’d still be alive if she’d gone to prison for this.

@derp8575

3 жыл бұрын

But we can't be sexist and racist. Therefore Mrs. Mangum is innocent.

@ryaj2356

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly, hollaring rape gets you headlines, lying about it happening proves you were raped, too.

@joemomma1968

3 жыл бұрын

Wow Really ?? I had no idea...that's messed up

@RoyArrowood

3 жыл бұрын

Not that I actually think a prosecutor would have pursued it even if they could but you would have to prove that she was not raped and that she was lying. It's way harder to prove something didn't happen so she probably wouldn't be convicted anyway

@ryaj2356

2 жыл бұрын

@Insert Name Here if something like this happened today, the media would be blasting the white players and school over white privilege because no one believed her.

My school just passed a sexual assault policy that explicitly says that the University can kick students out of school who are accused of rape before an investigation is even completed... you'd think that they would have learned from incidents like this. Apparently not.

@phero2

8 жыл бұрын

For real? And that's a University? In East Germany around '85?

@SevScout

7 жыл бұрын

Can the accused accuse the accuser? So they take the one who is accusing them with them? What is the case then?

@ElJulioso

7 жыл бұрын

In theory, yes. But I think we all know that University administrators would never punish a woman who has been accused without evidence -- but they'll gladly punish men in the same circumstances.

@SevScout

7 жыл бұрын

Shitty fuckers! If something like that happened to me, I would sue them so hard, that I would be set for life. That is the only viable way in my mind to change that. Capitalism is going to help us guys out here. Because if they don't change this crap, they are going to go dark. With a bit of luck that is...

@theoldfinalchapters8319

7 жыл бұрын

Just so you're aware, you can sue the college if they so much as try to do that. They'll lose the case horribly.

And, unlike Nifong, the Duke faculty members have suffered no consequences whatsoever.

@Martintfre

10 жыл бұрын

they should all be fired.

@darthroden

9 жыл бұрын

Scott Kirk I would agree. Frankly I believe that the entire Leftist media and popular culture establishment should have been held to account for their actions. Unfortunately that was not the case and the politically correct fascism they represent is still very much breathing and still conducting their little witch hunts based on their own criteria. God save America!

@ChrisBakerauthor

9 жыл бұрын

The silver lining might be an abandonment of the colleges by all men.

@gimmeeinboxback3860

9 жыл бұрын

Chris Baker No, the men should form their own male only college for the safety of the fragile women.

@tidefanyankee2428

6 жыл бұрын

Avoiding crap like this is one of the reasons why the Citadel and VMI wanted to remain all male

Doesn't matter if you don't get convicted or proven innocent. You're going to be forever have your name slandered and can never get it back just because of a woman saying rape.

@andrewd6218

8 жыл бұрын

+Chad Clifford I don't know what was said I wasn't there. What I do know is that most women who accuse men of rape who are lying, never seem to see jail time. Men have spent years behind prison and have their lives destroyed. Yet a lot of time women get off clean.

@lisabaltzer4190

8 жыл бұрын

A person who falsely accuses someone should themselves have to do the prison time that their victim would have had to endure if convicted! Some extra time for their lie should also be added to the sentence! If we did this , false accusations would cease!

@rowdyjohnson6026

8 жыл бұрын

+Lisa Baltzer amen!!!

@andrewswanson420

7 жыл бұрын

Chad Clifford you were there?

@rubybowdoin3223

7 жыл бұрын

that is completely different than rape. what she did was revenge - nothing else.

PS: Crystal Mangum later stabbed her boyfriend to death.

@hal900x

8 жыл бұрын

guyfisher81 They got married? Sheesh, the power of the pussy I guess. So few men have crazy detectors anymore.

@mariasmith2198

5 жыл бұрын

the players? why wouldn't they? they would realize how important family is when you get into trouble. and no one is so stupid they think feminists have anything to do with women. feminists are simply liberals.

@anthonyizq.3554

5 жыл бұрын

@@Coco-chrispy source?

@othbor

5 жыл бұрын

STUPID IS FOR NOT USED THE WEAPON AGAINST FALSE ACCUSATIONS, THE ONLY "WEAPONS AGAINST DEFAMATION", TO BE USED AGAINST THE FALSEHOOD OF ACCUSERS...THE ONLY WAY TO SHUT THIS REEEEEEEAALY HARD IS MAKE A BIG HUGE HOLE IN THEIR POCKETS, ALL THEM, WANT TO BE A "SAINT" NOT USE THE LAW, THEN "FUCK YOU" !!! THE CRIME OF DEFAMATION HAVE TO BE PUNISHED !!!

@noless

4 жыл бұрын

@@Coco-chrispy No it wasn't. She was found guilty of second degree murder. She had previously been convicted in a 2010 domestic case involving another boyfriend. There is something seriously wrong with her.

Nifong got an entire day in jail. Wow that is so long, wonder how he dealt with that. I think he needed 10 years in jail. Put corrupt prosecutors in jail.

@lisabaltzer4190

8 жыл бұрын

Perfect! I completely agree!

@lucabrazi3067

8 жыл бұрын

you said it

@lucabrazi3067

8 жыл бұрын

you said it

@SomeGuyInSandy

7 жыл бұрын

On January 15, 2008, Nifong filed for bankruptcy under Chapter 7 of the Bankruptcy Code.[90] He listed assets of almost $244,000 and liabilities of over $180.3 million, virtually all of which being six $30 million "unsecured nonpriority claims", one for each of the six members of the 2005-2006 Duke lacrosse team suing Nifong, among others.[citation needed] In 2008, Judge William L. Stocks lifted the automatic stay imposed by Nifong's bankruptcy filing, and announced that the plaintiffs can pursue their lawsuit. In July 2014 there was a call for all the cases Nifong had prosecuted to be reviewed on the basis of his having been shown to ignore due process in some cases including the murder trial against Darryl Howard. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Nifong In short he destroyed himself by virtue of his greed for publicity.

@lucabrazi3067

7 жыл бұрын

***** thanks so much for your post. My 17 year old Nice wants to be a lawyer. I had her read up on the Duke Lacrosse case with the intent of understanding due process and innocent until proven guilty. Which she did. She was disgusted with how it was handled by the prosecution. I am forwarding your post to her. Thanks.

I remember this case so distinctly and ACTUALLY arguing with a girl when this first happened. She was on my case for not condemning the lacrosse players of rape....I kept telling her..."DUE PROCESS....INNOCENT until proven guilty." I told her I could neither say they were innocent or guilty until all the evidence was made clear. She even chose not to talk to me for like a week and gave me dirty looks LOL. After everything came out a year later, she just avoided the issue and said it was in the past LOL. Not even an apology for giving me a hard time lol

@brentwalden

8 жыл бұрын

+Jose Trump I hate people like that. Such an idiot! It's a dangerous mentality.

@coolman1069

8 жыл бұрын

brentwalden It sure is. It's like we want to go back to medieval times or go witch hunting. Blame people and punish them on the spot. Um hello? One of the best parts of our legal system is that we don't put people through the guillotine and then ask questions later.

@coolman1069

7 жыл бұрын

dks13827 I actually ended up banging her best friend. haha.

@mariasmith2198

6 жыл бұрын

Then explain the Me too movement? Doesn't seem like anything has changed.

@mariasmith2198

5 жыл бұрын

I remember that too. I remember that because i stood up for the players while talking at a bar, a bartender heard this, and he refused to take my order, told us to go somewhere else.

I heard that two of the students that were accused of this rape would eventually earn law degrees and join a legal organization that works to free wrongfully accused prison inmates. So, in all of this crap heap, something good did happen.

@KZ-gi7ey

Жыл бұрын

Oh great - they have joined the Innocence Fraudject! Have you ever looked at the court transcripts and appeal decisions of any of these “wrongful conviction” cases? Innocence fraud is big business. See Roberta Glass for more on this subject.

@quadryjohnson2099

Жыл бұрын

​@KZ-gi7ey we found the idiot

@FreeTurtleboy

10 ай бұрын

​@@KZ-gi7ey bingo.....62 boneheaded feel good followers..,.? Your so correct

@philingrouille7198

7 ай бұрын

@@KZ-gi7ey So.....do you believe that every single accuser is telling the truth KZ?

@dextermoore278

3 ай бұрын

​@@KZ-gi7eyLook up Kim Kardashian getting Black people out of prison.

My favorite is when the Black Panthers showed up on campus. Then when the evidence didn’t support them they ran and hid like cowards

@harrycallahan5018

3 жыл бұрын

The black kkk

@prizefighter7607

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair they read what the media was saying so acted accordingly, then when they learned the truth after the case they adjusted their perceptions and changed. They didn’t double down and say something like, “women don’t lie about rape, so even though the facts don’t agree with me I will continue vilifying those men.” They changed their mind after learning new information, which is what any intelligent person/people should do.

@mlb5525

3 жыл бұрын

@@prizefighter7607 You are missing the entire point of the video. The Black Panthers followed the mob mentality of guilty until proven innocent and showed up to push their agenda, then they left just like everyone else when the evidence showed the alleged victim had lied.

@prizefighter7607

3 жыл бұрын

@@mlb5525 So you’re told about someone assaulting someone else. Everything you hear confirms the events. Emotions rile people up, as they do. Blame the media, school, and litigators, not the people they deceived.

@prizefighter7607

3 жыл бұрын

@@mlb5525 oh, the accused denied the events? Like as happens in basically every case like this? If you’re going to assume a person’s guilt or not based on their claims, don’t get pissy when others do the exact same thing.

At the college I went to a top level football player got accused of sexual assault. Got kicked off the team, kicked out of school, and lost his chance to make it to the NFL. Well, It goes to court and he is found not guilty. The girl lied. He didn’t get back in school, didn’t get back on the football team, goodbye NFL, didn’t get all that money back from lawyer fees…….and the girl……graduated school and didn’t get a day in jail or pay a single dollar in fines.

@bigcraig79

3 ай бұрын

Every athlete knows someone like this

@dextermoore278

3 ай бұрын

Wow. This is a horrible and terrifying story.

@SuperSparrow45

Ай бұрын

Sounds like Shawn Oakman. Dude was a projected 1st round pick, 6'9 290 pounds, insane athlete. Then 2 weeks prior to the draft, he was charged with sexual assault, and then went undrafted and unsigned. He was found not guilty after nearly 3 years of dealing with the case. It ruined his NFL opportunity and his career. It was pretty clear that people were trying to take advantage of the massive sexual assault scandal going on at Baylor, and Oakman was presumed guilty before proven innocent. Absolutely disgusting.

This should be viewed by every student before going to Diversity training.

@garenthal9638

3 жыл бұрын

correct but im here from the future to tell you its the opposite, if you make this suggestion you get expelled

@CUbanageNT_24

2 жыл бұрын

@@garenthal9638 Then you'll be able to sue

@jp__878

2 жыл бұрын

@@CUbanageNT_24 you think universities’ lawyers losing to some nobody? Don’t kid yourself

@CUbanageNT_24

2 жыл бұрын

@@jp__878 So all hope is lost? Grow a pair

@jp__878

2 жыл бұрын

@@CUbanageNT_24 who said that? I just told you it’s impossible to win a lawsuit against a massive school lol.

I have seen two women falsely accuse guys of sexual assault simply to get revenge, both times the guys didn't go to jail but incurred heavy legal expense, and yet both times the girl was not prosecuted for false accusations.

@alemswazzu

Жыл бұрын

The process is the punishment. It's wrong and it's done intentionally to send a message. Evil actually.

Every member of Faculty should be named and shamed. Even after ALL these years, name them ALL.

DUE PROCESS. Remember it. Otherwise this will happen again

@antitroller101

8 жыл бұрын

It did sadly...recall the Rolling Stones UVA Rape Scandal and that is just one highly publicized scandal involving rape and/or sexual assault God damn it all -_-

@howardbaxter2514

5 жыл бұрын

Sadly it is still being repeated. Smh

@dangerdan2592

Жыл бұрын

I'm from the future. It's still happening.

@Tyrunner0097

11 ай бұрын

It's still happening. America is now "guilty until proven innocent."

Literally the exact same thing happened to my hockey team in Canada, a chick snorted all sorts of drugs up her nose, tried banging half the team, everyone refused, including me (thank god), then she passed out. She later accused us all of sexual assault weeks later. RCMP questioned us all and later quickly dismissed it when her friend admitted the truth of nothing happening. To think that could have changed our lives if the friend hadn’t told the truth, terrifying. Gotta love being a young man nowadays, to this day I have extreme anxiety and haven’t had a relationship since, much less being able to talk to women in public.

@funnybobjr

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly terrifying that a woman’s word is all it takes to ruin your life. Can’t imagine how it’d feel to come so close to it actually happening to you.

@infinity4evr

2 жыл бұрын

Horrible

@SeanP7195

2 жыл бұрын

And she didn't have to pay a dime in fines or spend a single night in jail either I'm sure.

@Catsrule1513

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love being a young man these days 💀

@LordMalice6d9

2 жыл бұрын

Something very similar happened too me before. I almost got kicked out of the trade school I was going to at the time in 2015 because I have mild autism spectrum disorder disabilities, and one of the quirks many people like that have is, they tend to have a deep penetrating stare whenever I or they are thinking about something or focusing on something. So one day when I was studying I stared off in this girls direction and I don't remember all of the details, but apparently she was creeped out by it and later she admitted to having bad experience with others guys. So she went to the administration of the school to complain about me. So I was called into a meeting with some of them and almost got kicked out of the school for little to nothing if it wasn't for the documentation of my disability, that yes, people with autism tend to focus and stare for a long time if they are deep in thought. But this extremely put me off on having to want to deal with many girls, and I have never had a decent long term relationship with someone or intimacy with anyone because of issues like this. It makes you feel cheated and deprived of having a decent life. This world is not very fair to many people, especially if you are someone who is not a part of the norm of society.

Ten years later, and nothing changed.

@Drathrin

3 жыл бұрын

15 years later, it's gotten worse.

@billyumbraskey8135

3 жыл бұрын

In fact, things are worse. Due process is considered "white male privilege"

@bergthe89th12

2 жыл бұрын

@@billyumbraskey8135 More like due process only if it fits the narrative.

@NeonNotch

2 жыл бұрын

@@billyumbraskey8135 oh shut up. I’m a White male and even I know you’re spewing nonsense. White male privilege is a very real thing

@averageadam5001

2 жыл бұрын

16 years later. Yup still bad

anything ever happen to the 88 faculty who led the lynch mob?

@dks13827

5 жыл бұрын

They all apologized. Ha ha just kidding !!!

@UndertakerU2ber

4 жыл бұрын

@David Smith Since Duke is a private college, the government has zero overreach on their employment decisions. It’s purely up to the administration, whom have publicly stated that they feel no remorse for the ones falsely accused and would do everything they did again.

@noless

4 жыл бұрын

@@UndertakerU2ber Wow that's terrible.

@howardbaxter2514

3 жыл бұрын

Nope

@rexcolon5258

3 жыл бұрын

Should have been tarred and feathered.

you guys should edit this video and put in something at the end about how the accuser, crystal mangum, stabbed her boyfriend to death..

@Macca-95

8 жыл бұрын

+Toxically Masculine Not to defend the horrible excuse for a person but it's not pertinent to the case as it happened after and not before. Yes it gives us retrospective knowledge but it's not really related to this case.

@Kitties_are_pretty

4 жыл бұрын

Including that information would serve purely as an ad hominem. It would just be saying "and look, after she did this she went and murdered someone, so she was really really bad!" I get the sense that you want to include that information under the assumption that people will be more likely to assume the worst of rape accusers in the future. The goal shouldn't be to shit on rape accusers and make them less believable automatically (although based on your username that's probably what you want), it should be to uphold the principles of due process and the presumption of innocence.

@ToxicallyMasculinelol

4 жыл бұрын

you "get the sense"? from what? i typed one sentence and you're out here 4 YEARS later thinking you can read my mind? i wasn't even remotely implying that this information is important for the audience to evaluate the actual case. the video should acknowledge this fact out of respect to all of her victims, not just the ones who received media attention. nothing can ever fully compensate any of them but the family of the person who was actually murdered deserves some recognition. they deserve the peace of mind of knowing that everyone who knows about their son/brother/etc. will not suspect that his killing was somehow justified, because they will also know that the person who killed him was a complete psychopath. the only situation where the audience is better left ignorant is in a legal context, where preserving their impartiality is crucial to due process. but nothing i said has anything to do with the justice system, and nothing i said could even have an effect on it. this shit had already been over for years when i wrote that. now it's been even 4 more years. what point is there in keeping random youtube viewers in the dark? if a legal situation ever comes up again relating to this, and it somehow goes to a jury trial, the judge will be legally obligated to select a jury by the normal standards. meaning anyone whose impartiality will have been tainted in any way will be weeded out and removed. and the chances of this issue ever being decided upon by a jury again are practically zero. a youtube video isn't gonna make a difference to anything except the public's opinion of the people involved. if anything else, it's the family's state of mind.

@ToxicallyMasculinelol

4 жыл бұрын

and oh my god the irony. ad hominem? you're literally attacking me based on suspicions about my motivations. if we're gonna start name-dropping falacies, that's not just ad hominem but also a strawman? you're arguing with something i didn't even say, and using a misinterpretation of my username to reinforce it. my username is a satirical jab at critical theory. it doesn't say anything about my motivations or my feelings towards due process or the presumption of innocence. the fact that you think you can judge my motivations based on a misinterpretation of my comment and my username, and then use your misinterpretation of my motivations to judge me as a person, is EXACTLY the kind of thinking my username was meant to satirize. you're exactly the kind of internet pseudo-intellectual who thinks they can psychoanalyze sentence-long text comments that i was making fun of when i typed this username. toxic masculinity is a term invented by rich white women who think they can read men's minds and tell us how we feel, patronizing us by protesting ON BEHALF of us that we're "not allowed to cry" etc. i find it funny so i turned it into an adjective and put it in my name on purpose, to imply that i don't accept their unqualified diagnosis. likewise, i don't accept the insane leaps of logic you took to reach the conclusion that i don't believe in due process based on a single sentence and a 2-word username

@ba0700

3 жыл бұрын

@@Macca-95 It’s related to her character.

Both Nifong and Magnum should have faced some serious consequences

@hongo3870

2 жыл бұрын

Magnum killed her ex boyfriend a few years after this. If she had been put in prison, that man would still be alive.

@williamkrause5831

2 жыл бұрын

The faculty as well. Those fucks still had tenure after all this

@Richard-lu8ck

2 жыл бұрын

Nifong was disbarred and has since fallen on hard times. I heard once that he had to file bankruptcy.

@morpheus6394

2 жыл бұрын

Women are going be surprised when men are VERY CAREFUL when dealing with women.

@jimbarrofficial

2 жыл бұрын

@@morpheus6394 MGTOW's case has never been stronger.

Those boys lost some of the best years of their lives so Nifong and Duke faculty to make a (false) point. How they aren’t all in prison to this day is the true injustice.

@Yodumeee

2 жыл бұрын

#1 ranked lacrosse team in the country, ruined their names. Absolute trajedy. Duke should have paid them MILLIONS in damage

@howardbaxter2514

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yodumeee and the Duke Coach, Mike Pressler has never won a National Championship. Imagine having a golden opportunity to redeem yourself after coming off a tough National Championship loss, and see it all get stripped away.

@xxx-sp8fh

2 жыл бұрын

What happens to the boys? Does anyone know?

@Based_Proletariat

Жыл бұрын

Those poor privileged Whyte guys... cry me a river.

@jodycwilliams

Жыл бұрын

@@Based_Proletariat Yes, it's ok to accuse someone of sexual assault and ruin several years of their lives if they are the wrong skin color. You're a racist piece of excrement.

People are Sheeps. They want to jump on a band wagon.

@johnfrank1574

8 жыл бұрын

+guyfisher81 I quit dealing with western women almost entirely. When it's not during public business dealings I refuse to have any interaction with western women.

@DottieMinerva

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the totally unrelated replies.

@johnfrank1574

8 жыл бұрын

Danielle Dee We've expanded your world a little further than you were willing to go. You're welcome.

@phero2

8 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the white knights. They'd join any cause hoping to get laid cause they're pathetic honorless fucks.

@Kitties_are_pretty

4 жыл бұрын

​@@johnfrank1574 Who are you contrasting Western women with? You won't deal with them, but who will you deal with? Please tell me you're one of those pathetic men who fetishize Asian women because you assume they're weak and submissive and you can't handle a woman you perceive as strong and independent-minded.

Just watched the 30 for 30 on this. Classic example of passionate people allowing themselves to forego reason when doing so suits their private agenda. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. When we allow our preconceived notions to override the presumption of innocence, the justice system has already failed.

@ryaj2356

3 жыл бұрын

It's been guilty until proven innocent for 30 years now with sex crimes. And when a person in the one off chance actually proves they are innocent, prosecutors push a new law that closes what prosecutors call a loophole in the justice to make sure that doesnt happen again. And again, if you can win at trial, the prosecutor (in Arizona) pushed an even worse law that let's prosecutors place people ACCUSED of any sex crime on the registry regardless of a conviction. If you were charged or accused, that now makes you a registered sex offender for life in Arizona.

@Individual_Lives_Matter

3 жыл бұрын

It’s group identity justice. They’re also doing it with race. Wokeists (CRT/Intersectionality/critical social justice/grievance studies) are identity group collectivists.

@ZiPolishHammer

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryaj2356 That is horrible. No one's life should be destroyed because of an accusation.

@emmettredding1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes...."Fantastic Lies" on ESPN's 30 for 30 detailed this situation very well...from start to finish!! I made my kids watch it to show them the dangers of mob justice!!

@willard2729

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t watch ESPN’s take on this. They are leftist sbahgs

Those 88 faculty should have been fired.

This whole thing still makes me sick to my stomach, all these years later. Nancy DisGrace, The New York Times, so many villains in this story. Ugh.

As a woman and victim I believed her. Because lying about that is horrible! She lied on these three young men and ruined their lives. I remember feeling guilty and disgusted. I still think of them often.

@jnolette1030

3 жыл бұрын

I remember this case and after only a week or two I started doubting it. Then it was obvious

@100_Dollar_Bill

2 жыл бұрын

Don't feel guilty. It's not your fault. The way the media spun it made it seem certain they were guilty. Besides, you weren't the one lying. If there's any take away It's to not rush to judgement.

How anyone could send their son into that den of pit vipers at Duke after this event is beyond me.

Nancy Grace shouldve been taken off the air after this

@jaymelee23

6 жыл бұрын

No doubt. What's scary is that she used to be a prosecutor. Just imagine how many lives that cow wrecked with her tunnel vision mentality. Sickening.

@williamvallespir5509

5 жыл бұрын

@@jaymelee23 that is food for thought

@mariasmith2198

4 жыл бұрын

Nancy Grace isn't the problem. ALL MAINSTREAM MEDIA DID THE SAME THING. She is a convenient scapegoat for liberals so they don't have to deal with the fact that the LEFT did this. Equally because of race and gender.

Damn. To this day I never knew it was a hoax. I remember when this was all over tv and everyone made them seem guilty. I don't remember anything else ever coming from it

@seancoleman5021

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, you always hear the lurid accusations and the follow up is buried on the inside page. It seems to happen all the time.

Whenever there is any kind of allegation like this, we always assume the accuser is right. We obviously haven't learned

@havicmyers7011

8 жыл бұрын

+Connor Hein This was political maneuvering by the liberal left, Micheal Nifong to be precise.

@musicluvrlaurie6827

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. As witnessed by the events of the past few weeks. :((

@GodWorksOut

3 жыл бұрын

Speak for yourself, I automatically assume they are lying.

@NeonNotch

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a blatant lie. Statistically when women report very real assaults they’re often ignored or not ruled in favor of

@jamesmcnaughton5092

Жыл бұрын

Judge Brett Cavanaugh

Not only was this case fucked up but the female never served time. She later killed murdered her husband and was found guilty.

@mrtron1850

7 жыл бұрын

The stress of being accused of rape also killed one of the student's grandfather.

This what “collective (group identity) justice” looks like.

As an Australian normal young man myself born in 1998 from the younger generation, I researched a lot about the Duke lacrosse case. My heart goes out to Collin Finnerty plus his family, David Evans plus his family, Reade Seligmann plus his family, and Mike Pressler plus his family for the suffering they all went through, absolutely depressing. My heart goes out to Milton Walker who was a live-in partner to Crystal plus he survived an attempted murder from her and my heart goes out to the Walker family. My heart goes out to Reginald Daye who was the ex-boyfriend murdered by Crystal and my heart goes out to the Daye family. I hope the corrupted disgraceful former prosecutor Mike Nifong, the biased Duke University administration & faculty, the gender swindlers, the ignorant protesters, the lying journalists, the lying news reporters, the lying politicians, the race swindlers, and especially the false accuser herself Crystal Mangum all deserve to be punished, shame on all of them for the damage they all caused, absolutely pure evil. The law should always be “innocent until proven guilty” period. To all my fellow human brothers and sisters around the world, stay safe & always remember be genuine & take care of one another.

What really surprises me is that any men go to colleges at all anymore.

@Issachar-northern-kingdom

3 жыл бұрын

it's good if you're trying to get an AS degree over an AA degree

@psilvakimo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Issachar-northern-kingdom Or a technical degree, such as computer science, engineering, physics, math, medicine, biological sciences. Those will give you a boost plus they are in demand from employers.

This ends up far more tragically. She ended up murdering her boyfriend a few years later. There was something seriously the matter with her psychologically. Society decided to turn her into a sexual political hero rather than diagnose and treat her mental illness. Now someone is dead as a direct result of that decision.

It’s 2023 and it’s still guilty until proven innocent. We as a society have not learned a thing

@Tyrunner0097

11 ай бұрын

That's how it is now with our society that keeps moving at a "microwave pace," as I like to call it. No more due process or take the time to dissect facts and research. We want immediate stories, answers, and justice. America has truly become "guilty until proven innocent." And it's the fault of ALL media and society. Nowadays, as someone said, "if someone's accused of a horrible crime, it's on Page 1. When they're acquitted, it's on Page 5."

@lukasmiller486

4 ай бұрын

Tim Ballard’s going through this right now.

Please tell me those 88 faculty were reprimanded or fired. Im a Radiographer that nurse surely should be shitcanned.

@howardbaxter2514

5 жыл бұрын

Nope

Women who falsely accuse men of rape, should be sent to prison for the same length of time as the accused would have gotten had he been proven guilty. The damage they create is absolutely untold.

Played the race and gender card and almost ruined 3 peoples lives

Salem witch trials. It's the current year.

@howardbaxter2514

3 жыл бұрын

Who would have thought that it would get worse in 2020

Guilty until proven innocent. And to this day people get accused and go to prison for crimes they never committed.

@mito88

3 жыл бұрын

and to this day wrongly accused people are executed.

Being on the left means never having to say you are sorry and change course.

@weeknders

3 жыл бұрын

Remember You are the coward and the left is the bully. So you will be treated as such. Thats how Bullying works.

@BasicName02

3 жыл бұрын

@@weeknders coming from the loud and obnoxious right wing…sure

@weeknders

2 жыл бұрын

@Maurits that couldn't be further from the truth. With out the right their would be no charity the left I guarantee... 100% The right has 0 problem with dividing this country down the middle and the left get there share and Sianara... Beat it.

@Jdeneik

2 жыл бұрын

@Maurits it absolutely is political. The leftist are to blame for 90 percent of all that’s wrong in the world

@ZipMapp

2 жыл бұрын

@Maurits What are you? 10 years old? Left good right bad for real?

"aggressive out of control white athletes," where are we hearing that these days?

@funnybobjr

2 жыл бұрын

Bro, hits so hard. Military commanders talking about “white rage”. Makes me worried about this country’s future and overall disgusted at the elites.

@Harrisdrew625

2 жыл бұрын

One of the first anti white campaigns in retrospect.

It's breath taking that the prosecutor NEVER was justly punished.......

@starguy2718

2 жыл бұрын

*One whole day* that's it. Give me a break.

@fearlessfosdick160

2 жыл бұрын

He was disbarred for ethical violations directly related to this case.

@funnybobjr

2 жыл бұрын

@@fearlessfosdick160 disbar ring is what should happen if he did it out of incompetence. Decades in prison is what he should get for doing it out of malice or personal benefit.

@dextermoore278

3 ай бұрын

HE WAS DISBARRED AND CHARGED WITH NUMEROUS CRIMES. HIS LIFE WAS DESTROYED.

Love how the protesters where quick to say guilty without facts. And that signed "real men tell the truth" which funny they were telling the truth. Also what kind of a stripper drinks while doing her job? Anyone thats stupid enough drink while working should be arrested for stupidity. What's sad is black leaders activists in this case got a setback. You painted innocent people guilty and defending a criminal. The media may have called it peaceful but to me painting them guilty before any facts and results is barbaric. So good job activists I will never trust you before you are quick to judge.

@tricallyourmama

3 жыл бұрын

Most strippers drink before working. Helps get them comfortable and loose. It’s a party so they usually like to join and have fun with everyone too.

@oldironsides4107

2 жыл бұрын

Who shows there asshole sober? Why would a stripper drink? The utter humiliation of flapping your asshole for dollars would be just one reason.

@BacklTrack

4 ай бұрын

Most strippers are mentally ill skanks with substance abuse issues. That's why they're strippers.

I still can’t believe there were no charges against this woman. I was infuriated by the damage she caused, without consequence. Not even a charge for filing a false police report...Unbelievable

@theslaviccookie5137

2 жыл бұрын

If it makes you feel better she is in prison now

@VideoUser261

2 жыл бұрын

@@theslaviccookie5137 Really? For what reason?

@theslaviccookie5137

2 жыл бұрын

@@VideoUser261 murder

@VideoUser261

2 жыл бұрын

@@theslaviccookie5137 OMG

It is hard to imagine a more dangerous or stupid way of making decisions, than by allowing those who make them to pay no price for being wrong.

This happens all the time. The only difference is that THIS lie was exposed. Who were the 88 that signed that statement and why hasn't the internet ruined their lives yet?

We’ve learned nothing from this…. If it happened today, the lacrosse players would probably be murdered and no charges filed

@jonny777bike

2 жыл бұрын

We have learned something from it. Avoid going to college and if you can. Get education online if your course allows it. Or always have a video camera when having interactions with women and avoid women as much as possible when at universities.

@psilvakimo

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonny777bike There are also good trade schools.

@lukasmiller486

4 ай бұрын

Kyle Rittenhouse

A decade ago, this was a shocking one-off case of the failure of due process. Nowadays, in the age of trial by social media and "believe all women," it's tragically the norm.

@alemswazzu

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Thank the lord Elon bought Twitter, because they have gone full tyrant. The ACLU is a clownshow now, not worthy of used toilet paper.

"Mob mentality of the activist wing of the Duke faculty" - Patient Zero

Thank you 🙏 for your support

Over a decade later nothing changed.

I'd ask why this hasn't been turned into a movie like North Country, but I think we all know why.

If you have ever been through the System, you are always presumed guilty! There is no "innocent until proven guilty", and justice is not blind, and definitely not fair!

Nifong ONLY got a day in jail for contempt of court and for basically framing someone, wow......Go THE US legal system.

My daughter was getting a grad degree at Duke at the time. She was appalled. I said, without knowing anything other than the photo “lineup” had NO incorrect answers, that she should wait until the facts are in.

The scary thing is that the situation is worse now thanks to social media - twitter especially. The social media pile ons, people being outraged on other people's behalf - people they have never met- getting people.fired and their lives ruined. It is really scary. The principle of innocent until proven otherwise through the justice system has all but been eroded.

News media is also guilty !!

The ESPN 30 for 30 episode about this case is very good. Appreciate some added details in this excellent video!

"the [activists] ...would continue their activism regardless of what the Court decided or what the police said." Yep, that rings very familiar in 2021.

And to this date… nothing has been learned from these cases, time and time again!

holy shit...how do these people actually live themselves. i mean honestly i hate people but fucking false accusation leading to basically a witch hunt.

It has only gotten worse since then.

There should have been 88 terminations. College professors have lost their minds, reason, logical thought, or responsibility for their position or the university and students they serve.

@CarpeCupcake

2 жыл бұрын

Guarantee you that if a young woman made the same (false) accusation against a faculty member, that faculty member would very quickly learn to appreciate due process.

@johnlawsfather8128

2 жыл бұрын

Nowadays students are in universities to serve as tools for woke professors to indoctrinate

Found out about this story - not through the media, but through Jesse Watters’ book. Amazing how the media covered this story, and never cleared it up.

had to come here after the kavanaugh case. due process prevails once again

@packergeek10

5 жыл бұрын

Yea totally feel the same way.

@timinla64

5 жыл бұрын

Unless you consider that once again, the false accusers will go un-punished. Which assures that it will happen again..

Great vid.

it appears that almost everything about this case can no longer be found on YT.....

@themanofmyth

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that as well.

@kamallb4650

2 жыл бұрын

Bcoz yt is a woke platform.

Stand up for law and order in this country. Deny the media any claim to the truth without evidence, let the judicial system do its job...and let the evidence do the talking. Gossip and public opinion without the facts destroys people's lives.

THERES SOMETHING DEFINITELY WRONG WITH HER TELLING THOSE LIES WHICH ALMOST DESTROYED THE LIVES OF THREE (3) YOUNG MEN.

CRIME IS THE NEW BLACK ENTITLEMENT

The sad thing is, there are still people out l there who still believe those students are guilty even if they didn't commit the crime.

@thomasmckenzie4584

3 жыл бұрын

Still?

@politicallyambiguous8424

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasmckenzie4584 Yes, and there are some who don't feel bad for what happened to the players, and are just disappointed that this case didn't yield a form of reparations.

@dlpogge

3 жыл бұрын

"Where do I go to get my good name back?"

@desasnarse

2 жыл бұрын

There are still people who believe Michael Brown had his hands up, that Trayvon Martin was executed, and that Mattress Girl was really raped. When the narrative is at stake, you never need to apologize for being wrong.

its one thing to have a psychopath or a sociopath who is also a pathological liar here, but what really scares me are these people who support her all the way through all her proven lies & violent insane behavior that hurt, ruined & ended innocent peoples lives. those are the people who are really dangerous, because they are obviously prejudiced & have their own agenda & its not about justice.

Do you know what’s scary as hell is that if you watch the documentary, you get all these idiots on campus, so-called educated students and professors yelling for punishment before the case. You would think intelligent kids went to Duke, would understand innocent, until proven guilty, scares the hell out of me.

I can't believe I've never heard of this before, although I can understand why.

@darianharris6569

10 ай бұрын

Becusde the accusations were made all the way back in 2006 and it never went to trial and they were nkt convicted ormfakskeyni:lir is Ed like the laundry list of lack peopel fakery accused of rape who later ad overhead convictions🙄. He despite that the right wing media keeps making a huge hoopla out of it.

Lesson when getting a stripper: set up hidden cameras all over the crib and make sure it’s recording everything.

@billyumbraskey8135

3 жыл бұрын

Better lesson: don't associate with whores at all.

@KingMinish

2 жыл бұрын

@@billyumbraskey8135 based

@mariams5039

2 жыл бұрын

is that not illegal depending on the state?

@tricallyourmama

2 жыл бұрын

@@billyumbraskey8135 “ain’t no fun if the homies can’t get none” - Duke Lacrosse Team

@tricallyourmama

2 жыл бұрын

@@mariams5039 good question but from my understanding when people enter your personal home and there are cameras everywhere, that’s on them. Same reason why cops can’t enter your home without warrant. Maybe I’m wrong tho lol

Every one of those "88" should have been terminated.

I am glad the three (3) innocent young men won their lawsuits and relocated to other universities to further their education.

What bothers me mostly about this situation is from my understanding nobody has ever apologized to the falsely accused players

@stansmiley9737

5 ай бұрын

No one needs to apologize.. they got 20 million each. That’s their apology

@BacklTrack

4 ай бұрын

@@stansmiley9737 Their lawyers stated later that it actually wasn't that much. Guess you don't want an apology next time a cop kills someone? Just some money and keep your mouth shut?

@gators-rock-tim-t9247

2 ай бұрын

@@stansmiley9737 and the black girl killed her blk b/f a few years later

Have no idea why KZread recommended this story to me so many years later. I remember when this story came out and when the case was taking a rather lengthy time to prosecute, I had a feeling something was either wrong or there was a plea bargain being worked out. Now so many years later it's just the Salem witch trials all over again.

@unclej7842

3 жыл бұрын

Because you probably lean conservative in your video views.

Looking forward he last 6 years, the mob mentality has grown by millions - no lessons learnt here.

falsely accusing someone of a crime should be punished by the crime they are accusing

@100_Dollar_Bill

2 жыл бұрын

^

Nifong and Mangum should have been given 10 year prison sentences. If Mangum was put in jail, she wouldn't have been able to kill her boyfriend. And she didn't even get a life sentence. Disgusting. I hope Nifong and Mangum rot in hell.

Meanwhile, Kaplan, a female lawyer for the #MeToo movement, tries to discredit the first woman to come forward in accusing Andrew Cuomo of sexual harassment. Guess it also matters what side of the political aisle one hails from.

I think that Mike Nifong should've gotten a harsher punishment.

@steve3131

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, castration.

@cpthornman

2 жыл бұрын

@@starguy2718 Fuck that. Rest of his life. This wasn't the only case he pulled this shit on.

Did the stripper face legal actions? The players should be paid millions of dollars for ruining their lives.

That woman stabbed her bf in 2013 and only got 14 years for killing him. Nice girl.

How quickly we have forgotten.

And radfems are still trying to undermine due process.

this video is fire! :-)

Such an awful thing, people who blatantly lie about things like this deserve the worst. Life in prison for those who are proven to outwardly lie about something like this. There are so many people who are actually abused and assaulted who never say anything about it and are left suffering, and then there are those who make shit up and take advantage and ruin it for everyone.

Mike Nifong should never have left jail. He knew from day 1 they were innocent

They should make a movie about what happened to these guys. I just watched the 30 for 30

I don't understand why the other stripper who was at the party, didn't tell the Police that Crystal was lying. She was with her the whole time. Crystal was a very mentally ill person. It's sad that she had 2 children and ruined their lives. Very tragic for everyone involved.

As those students, I would’ve sued for the entire lacrosse teams tuition and either the income of the school for 2 years or every one of those 88 teachers dismissed with no chance of teaching ever again. They straight up lied and published articles and whatnot claiming all this as fact with out one SHRED of evidence.

"Show me the man and I'll show you the crime" -- Josef Stalin

@kevindavis5966

3 жыл бұрын

That was actually Lavrentiy Beria, Stalin's head of state secret police.

@juliuskim7633

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevindavis5966 yeah Beria, the “Himmler of the USSR”

It should just be innocent until proven guilty and all this shit wouldn't happen.

Thank you 🙏 Brooklyn College.

This case should never be forgotten.

Media and FBI did the same thing to Richard Jewell In 96 Atlanta Olympics