Thanks for the review Jon. From my experience of using Procoach software for over 12 months, this is my recommendation: Procoach is NOT effective for clients who are looking to reach body goals in an agressive manner by counting macros, meal plans, myfitnesspal, etc. However, I've found procoach to be effective if you're looking to help people create long-term change through personal growth and self-awareness. The reason why the software asks the clients questions is to help them come to their own realisations of their behaviours. I get that some people want to be just told what to do. But when you change your behaviours through self-inquisitive techniques, it leads to long-term behaviour change. I wish I knew the distinction earlier of who this software would be most useful to. But now that I do, I feel very comfortable in marketing it to my niche and working with clients in a way where they are totally aligned to this way of behaviour change. Hope this helps someone looking to make a decision :)

@danielmurray9820

3 жыл бұрын

Great comment , very helpful and particularly regarding the notifications and client type it suits. Much appreciated 🙏

This is an excellent unbiased review. Thank you - a public service for sure. The biggest con for me as someone who just decided to try out this software with the goal of it helping to build and administer my nutrition coaching business is the branding. Having Pn plastered all over everything is a huge negative. Pn could easily have made this a private label product and kept their logo off of it. What does that tell us about Pn? Perhaps it tells us that they are trying to be both a service provider to me via procoach but also a competitor with their online nutrition coaching, which is essentially the same exact thing as Procoach. I have a Pn 1st level designation and thought it was very useful, if not a bit simplistic (and yes, I found all the colored boxes annoying). I've read John Berardi's articles for years. He's top notch. But he just seems a little smarmy when he's schlepping the Procoach software. Again since it isn't private labeled, you are essentially introducing your client to a potential competitor - deal breaker.

@susantkumarnand9520

5 жыл бұрын

Bro are you on install with same name.....i tried finding you there but could not. Can you reach out to me....my Instagram id @acsm_certitified_personaltrainer

Thank you for coming up with this video! You addressed all my concerns. Looking forward in hearing your experience on PN L2!

Much respect for taking the time to make this video ! I wished more people would take this kind of initiative and share unbiased reviews of fitness services/certifications.

Thank you for this clear and well measured review! You nailed the primary value points for any client receiving a nutrotional, softwared support system. With so many emails and the app for everything world it's critical that any added tool is truly of benefit. Thanks Jon! =)

Thanks for the honest review here, Jon! Extremely helpful.

Hey John... thanks for taking the time to review the software. I just watched your review of the Level one certification as I am considering taking the course. I already signed up for the pre-sale that opens in April. I'm trying to research PN as the company is new to me... I want to be sure the course material is science based and up-to-date, which you have talked about in the other video... so again, really appreciate your insights and your taking the time to make these videos. I'm not a personal trainer, but have a strong interest in nutrition and perhaps staring a side business as a nutrition coach. I'm a competitive swimmer so I know a lot of people who would benefit from better nutrition. I've hired personal trainers before with the specific goal of upper body muscle growth but unfortunately, even after discussing my goals/reasons for a trainer (on our first meeting)... they end up having me doing cardio or crossfit... not upper body weight training/lifting... after listening to the personalized approach and support you offer your clients... which includes listening to what they want... if I lived in Canada I would definitely come see you! Keep up the excellent work!

Loved your review. I am planning on taking the PN L-1 this October. I locked myself in for the pre sale. And this is useful stuff once I'm done the course and ready to start my own nutrition programming. I cook for a living and plan on doing a meal prep service. And having a nutrition certificate can help me get clients on the right plan. And helps me understand food better.

Thank you for this great review of ProCoach - you’ve really sifted thoroughly through all pros and cons. Cheers.

@JonathanMango

5 жыл бұрын

Jessica Sparks happy to help, Jessica ! Thanks for watching !

Thanks! For this review !

Thank you for the honest review

Great review, thank you!

Thanks for that great honest review. Branding and customization would be a huge factor. PN1 student at the moment. Looking forward to your overall/first-impressions review of Level 2. *subscribed 👍

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

That's amazing! thanks for much for the support. And How do you like the course so far? Be looking out, I will be enrolling in the Level 2 next time it opens, and will drop a review shortly after!

Thank you for an honest review of your experience with this software.

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

No problem! Glad you found it helpful, thanks for stopping by!!

Thank you for this review bro! I'm gonna take the pro coach but because of this review, it enlightened me about what the software is all about. I'm gonna take the PN2 also, hope to get some asap review from you.

@JonathanMango

5 жыл бұрын

Super happy to hear that you found it helpful my man !! Good luck on the PN2! I haven't signed up for it yet as business has been on the rise, but will definitely do it some day and drop a review for it ! Trainerize review coming soon as well!

Rate this man! you're so close to 300! gonna smash it in no time my dude!

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

Jack Husband thanks big bro ! I always appreciate the support my Man ! Youre crushin it too bro lets get thisss 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

I'm currently getting certified in PN1 and I am thinking about procoach. Thank you for your review!!

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

XAudreyS im glad my video helped you out ☺️💪🏽 enjoy the course !! Its amazing

Bro dont let anything stop you, you are doing great even tho you may not be getting so many views you are a beast and i love you and i love KZread for showing me your channel. KEEP IT UP!

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

SLOdude8 brother. This comment made my day. Grateful for your support and kind words. Glad to have you on board man. Im uploading more content for people like YOU ❤️💯💪🏽 have a good day my man

@slodude8371

6 жыл бұрын

You are such a cool dude man imma go and follow you on instagram right now haha

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

SLOdude8 thank you brother ! When you follow me send me a DM and ill follow back !

Thanks for great review :) Now (april of 2020) ProCoach is free for anyone for 90 days, so great time to find out if it has any use/value hehe.

Thank you for this video!! You addressed all of my concerns/questions. I'm doing the PN1 and I love the content so I thought their software would be awesome, and they market so well. But I was wondering about customization, without that it doesn't sound worth it. Thank you!

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

Healing Malorie im so glad I could help ! Yes the content is the course is great ! And i dont think it will be worth it for most coaches to be honest. Thanks for your comment and thanks fro stopping by !!

Hey Jon, thanks for your review. Has PN addressed some of the cons you mentioned in this review? I see the video posted in Feb 2018, but its 2+ years since then. Thanks!

I opened your 12week coaching program and it looked so damn cheezy, but on the other hand when you speak in a video you look like a really decent person and trainer. And a very good unbiased review indeed. Any idea if the app changed as review is 2 years old?

Very good video! I like the honesty of this video because I, as a new pro coach client, am now discouraged to even try as the programs for nutrition and fitness aren't even tailored to you, apparently. This means I will cancel my subscription immediately as I have specific goals that will not be met if this is how it runs. Thank you very much for being so honest about it! It's very appreciated. Do you recommend any weight loss/fitness coach that's worldwide and online and for women too?

Thanks for this video. It confirmed what I suspected. I am currently doing the pn1 certification and have to say it is one of the most professional and comprehensive courses I have ever done, I really am enjoying it. I am in Oxford UK and will maybe looking to invest in coaching software at some point. Have you tried any other solutions or have you indeed settled for something you can recommend.

Thanks man--great review! I just finished PN1 and started PN2, and I really like it so far (moreso than PN1--it's better-structured for daily learning).

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

anytime brother, thanks for the comment and the support. No way, that's great! I missed the last chance to sign up for it. How has it been so far??

John, I am currently studying my level 1 too. I was wondering where PN has made contact with you with regards to your two reviews of their products and if so what feedback, if any, have you had?

Thanks for this review Jon!! I've done the L1 certification and I was wondering if ProCoach would be worth using. I'm just about to start my online PT business, but I prefer a more personal approach so I don't think ProCoach will be suitable. I hope you don't mind me asking but do you use any other nutrition software with your clients? I'm trying to gather as much information from actual PTs as I can before I go live with my business. Thanks again Jon.

@JonathanMango

5 жыл бұрын

Hey bob ! thanks for the reply, I appreciate you stopping by and watching ! I currently use Trainerize and Evolution Nutrition (they connect together) to deliver meal plans and nutrition programming. I also combine that with my own personalized email system to help me automate it as much as I can while still providing a personal touch. I suggest you apply something similar if you want to scale and help more people. Hope this helps !

@bobporter9292

5 жыл бұрын

That's a big help Jon, thank you so much for this. I'm just looking at Trainerize now and I've had my eye on Evolution Nutrition for a while now.

I completely agree with this review! Was very disappointed , I had reached out to them several times voicing exactly what you had. Not worth the money! Can I ask what software you use for your clients if any? You say you have access to clients with my fitness pal? How do you do that ?

Hey Jon, just watched your review on the software. But as far as content, you would recommend getting the cert, just not using their software? You feel like the information and coaching strategies from the certification are useful? Soooooooo many to choose from, I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth.

John, thank you so much! i too think pn is great ( i'm L1 and will more than likely do L2), but i searched the internet looking for reviews. I had so many questions, and I think you answered them all. I am not an online coach -not that I never have online clients - but I am in person coach, and I was really hoping that procoach would help me with my...ahem...organizational challenges. Well, your cons answered all those questions. The fact that it doesn't customize is huge - that was my greatest question what if I am training someone who is competing, etc? I have to say that one of the main reasons I so wanted this to was because... calculations! MATH! (I hope my clients aren't seeing this!) And the other biggie, organizing. Finally the email bombardment. That kills me, and I have a hard time imagining my busy clients who are already working on improving habits etc, coming home from work to yet more email. Ok I am writing much more than I intended. Thanks a mil, John!

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

Tara Lee wow Tara, I’m so glad I was able to help you make this decision and answer the questions you had ! I totally hear you and definitely not helpful to someone whos competit thats for sure ! Oh trust me, I totally agree, the math and organization are a hard part for me as well hence why I looked into this. Oh well, for now I guess we’ll have to be more organized until we can find/make something better ! Cheers, and have a great day Tara ! Thanks for the support and kind words again ! 💪🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯

@taralee6639

6 жыл бұрын

John, I am sort of looking around at others who are selling supposed pt software...please let me know if you come across anything and I will do the same! And thanks for replying to my comment!

I thought I might want to get into nutrition coaching and signed up for the L1 course. I am enjoying it and did the same as you and took up the ProCoach offer. I agree with you on all aspects of your review. I harboured the idea of doing a Facebook marketing campaign to offset my costs of the software by getting maybe a half dozen clients but after two weeks on it as a client, I realised I was skipping or ignoring the most of the program so I also got the refund. Have you used or reviewed Trainerize? Please link if you have, I would appreciate any feedback on this as I am using it for myself and wonder if its the best, or if there are better options out there, also are there any other coaching platforms that you would suggest (for tracking clients)?

Your review was really helpful - Thanks John! Kind of wondering the same thing as one of the other previous reviewers...do you know of any other comparable software that could help coaches? I love many aspects of this software, but not sure this is the one for me.

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

Stacy Yates im glad you found it helpful ! I have used trainerize before but stopped because it didnt work for me. Currently looking into creating a software - what features would you like to see in it ?

@thelmachaulk8309

5 жыл бұрын

I am also wondering if there is other coach software we could look into.

Thanks for much for this review. The no personalization really is a turn off. It doesn't take long for clients who are friends or family to compare notes and realise it's all a cookie cutter con job... looks really bad on you!

Hey! Do you still use ProCoach, or do you use something else now?

Thanks for this review, as disappointing as it is. I believe PN is about to roll out another version of ProCoach, and I wonder if any of your cons have been addressed. I may give it a try once I've completed level 1 (which I'm just starting) if only to get a sense of how to set up an online coaching business, but the lack of customization and, especially, the challenges of personal communication (not what I thought at all based on the marketing) are definite cons.

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

I know, I was disappointed to find this out as I was going though it unfortunately. But, Im glad I was able to get my money back once I did. But hey, if their testimonials are all true, then it could work for a lot of coaches out there. I would just probably question the quality of coaching they are delivering! Thanks my man

Thank you for this. I feel the cons 100% canceled out any of the pros. I see you are working on your own software - any idea of when that will come out? I would love it to be habit based as well as macro based.

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

Sarah Alyse Fitness thanks for your comment and your support ! The software will be taking about 6 months to finalize and create ! But that is definitely what I was going for !! Glad to know other fellow coaches want that same appraoch as I think its best. Ill definitely make a video explaining more about it and its launch.

@sarahpringle2455

6 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Looking forward to seeing that! Thanks for the reply.

How did you become an online coach?

I really enjoyed your review on PN ProCoach as I am thinking about it but your review has made me think more about options. Do you use a client management system or track your clients who office apps?

@JonathanMango

6 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Busetti im so glad i was able to inform you on the product and that you came to my video! I use google sheets right now and docs to organize all of my client stuff. What do you currently use bro ?

@ryanjcoon1

5 жыл бұрын

Do you use a different program now? Considering PNL1

I know this is an old video. Does anyone know if they've addressed this and made changes? Also, what's your software? Is it out now? I am now looking for software as just finished my studies. I was keen on trainerize as I used as a client in past but just now found out about these program and am looking for reviews. But doesn't sound good. 😎

Great review. Hopefully JB watches this and makes some much needed changes to ProCoach. I love PN as a company, but I do HATE their annoying marketing. They use all of the shitty tricks in the book to try to get you to sign up. Limited spots for an online cert that you study for and complete on your own whenever you want? Common... Then you blast emails like: ONLY A FEW SPOTS LEFT!!!! Pisses me off so much.

@JonathanMango

5 жыл бұрын

Hey glad you liked it ! Yeah, definitely agree with that one, I still get email blasts from them always saying the same thing about barely any spots left. Abused the scarcity tactic there no doubt. They'll have to be careful before pissing too many people off, and upping their game with this software (maybe they have already and I'm not aware)

Thanks for the great review on their ProCoach Software. If their branding and logos are all over it, it wouldn't really give professionalism to the trainer themselves. Precision Nutrition Level 1 student, currently. I am interested in doing the Level 2 Master Class. Did you enroll in this course after the Level 1 Nutritional Coaching?

Is procoach maybe a ''proof'' that you can't handle all your clients to make them see results? So, you think you have luck of knowledge, if you don't notice the system like you did. And that's why level 2 made? Is it worth? I think as i found out and listen from you procoach is fishy to go to level 2? By the way, i already signed in presale list and i am ready to start Level 1 and i am pretty happy about that. :D I'll be calisthenics personal trainner from the new year and i need the nutrition knowledge firstly for me and after for my future clients :D

@JonathanMango

5 жыл бұрын

Πέτρος Μαρκόπουλος very interesting man. It could be for sure ! Im glad to hear you signed up for level 1! Let me know how it goes💪🏽 cheers brother

hey mate is this valuable for someone that is already a PT and dietitian? Thanks in advance.

@JonathanMango

5 жыл бұрын

nicolas gunn hey man ! Honestly, it can be for some of the online nutrition coaching BUSINESS insight/info it provides. But as far as knowledge, it sounds like youre set. Unless you havent dont any cont. education recently, then definitely recommend you go for it !

@JonathanMango

5 жыл бұрын

Whoops - just realised this wasnt my certification review its the pro coach. No i dont recommend this software for you bro

How to cancel my account ?