Pre modern, modern, and post modern

Dr. Durst draws an overview of western civilization as it moves through three prevailing worldviews, premodernity, modernity and postmodernity from the perspective of Christian theology.

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  • @malcolmmarzo2461
    @malcolmmarzo24617 жыл бұрын

    Very clear, succinct presentation. Visuals are great clarifiers. Thank you.

  • @globescape4771
    @globescape47713 жыл бұрын

    This makes it very clear. There are very amorphous explanations of modernism and post-modernism out there. I'm a visual learner and a visual teacher. I draw just like the professor to explain things. Thanks Rick, you're a great teacher!

  • @stephenluna2997
    @stephenluna29979 жыл бұрын

    As a Christian Evangelical, I highly enjoyed this video! Thanks for your work!

  • @zaindomingo3621
    @zaindomingo36214 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Lecture, Im presently taking doing a Sociology module "Theorizing Modernity" through the University of South Africa and the task now seems less daunting, thank you. Very good Jobs done. Though Theological, I can still apply it to my Sociology Class. Thank you.

  • @daveklebt7732
    @daveklebt77326 жыл бұрын

    the labels should be: premodern = authority based on superstition; modern = reason based on observation and verifiable facts(science); post-modern = chaos, and nothing has any meaning or truth, where verifiable facts are questioned as subjective.)

  • @Convexhull210

    @Convexhull210

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your post assumes that science is our only way of knowledge and truth. That is self refuting.

  • @anthonyd6555

    @anthonyd6555

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're reframing the paradigm to be more in-line with your own biases against religion, which the postmodernist would than use as evidence to show that everything is actually a subjective construct ;)

  • @malikwilliams2458

    @malikwilliams2458

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s a good explanation

  • @danielgalvez7953

    @danielgalvez7953

    3 жыл бұрын

    premodern: it is very true that many people were superstitious, but the thinkers back then were very into reason and verifiable facts(science) or the science behind religion and came up with moral truths. modern: it is very true that there was a change from widely religious to about half secular in this time, and science has something to do with that, but I think of it more as: the poor and uneducated forcefully trying to be included in understanding truth, and they were successful in the long run because today the majority of people are educated, not very well educated but more educated. I think you nailed post-modernism. P.S. actually in the long run maybe they were not so successful since there are many poorly educated that are secular, biased sure, but I think its true; there is more reason behind religion than meets the eye. If you don't know of Jordan Peterson he's a real smart guy who doesn't fall under a named religion but considers himself religious since he believes in God (his definition of God is pretty different, but its also great)

  • @globescape4771

    @globescape4771

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would add that the period that preceded the "pre-modern" was called the Ancient Period which was - superstitious and polytheistic. And that the Pre-modern world was Theistic;; Modern world was atheistic (humanistic); and Post Modern era - pantheistic/nihilistic

  • @AlyshaMunozRealtor
    @AlyshaMunozRealtor7 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Lecture and explanation.

  • @Orxan9832
    @Orxan98325 жыл бұрын

    Very clear. Thank you Dr. Durst

  • @TMBigBird1
    @TMBigBird15 жыл бұрын

    Excellent lecture! Thank You!

  • @fellybossymachu9212
    @fellybossymachu92126 ай бұрын

    Kindly please, I want part two in this topic.Meanwhile be blessed.

  • @zehrabetulozler
    @zehrabetulozler7 жыл бұрын

    Türkçe alt yazısını da bulabilsek keşke Dr.Rick Durst'dan pre modern,post modern ve modern kavramlarını dinlemek/okumak ne kadar güzel olurdu. Buraya yorumu bırakayım da belki vesile olmuş olurum...

  • @pranavshekhawat6430
    @pranavshekhawat64303 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much.

  • @pavanhareesh7712
    @pavanhareesh77123 жыл бұрын

    this lecture is more relevant in this contemporary pandemic era

  • @whiistlingwinds5855
    @whiistlingwinds58555 жыл бұрын

    I'm not Christian anymore, but I think he did a pretty good job at explaining pre-modern and modernity, the transition to each paradigm and how arbitrary the beginning and endings to each are, but completely face-dived when talking on post-modernity. It got way too hammy and I felt completely missed the point of anything that I've read up on what postmodernism is (I've read up from its critics, supporters, etc). Also, I don't think post-modernism's start-date should be at the start of the new millennium, I get why he puts it there, I just don't agree. The late 60s or early 80s make more sense to me, the shift in a new paradigm I think fits there better but I'm still new to all this so I'm just making an educated guess lol.

  • @chrisyaluyanda4937

    @chrisyaluyanda4937

    Жыл бұрын

    No matter how far you go away from God, Jesus died for you and He loves you. His grace is unending, his mercy has no boundary and his love is eternal. You are still God's child. Your Father loves you and waiting for your return.

  • @hammadraza6143
    @hammadraza61436 жыл бұрын

    Very nice lecture. Although a question is bothering me here. Sir it is the primary feature if Post Modernism that acc. to it; there is no absolute facts and that all ethos of postmodernity are relativistic and individialistic. Also followers of Postmodernism have hardly been seen on a single point or around a common centre. In light of above statements, how you can say with this much surety that earth took thw centre of human ideology in this age?

  • @Ezra15Shimoan
    @Ezra15Shimoan6 жыл бұрын

    Good content

  • @suzzaneiamme77
    @suzzaneiamme776 күн бұрын

    Wonderful 🙏

  • @syedahmedali5079
    @syedahmedali50797 жыл бұрын

    very good lecture

  • @nicolaburkinshaw1133
    @nicolaburkinshaw11333 ай бұрын

    What a fabulous theory! Definitely one to ponder.

  • @Jamie-ro6sx
    @Jamie-ro6sx Жыл бұрын

    I'm a Christian. But I actually came here not for religious reasons. More so I wanted to be educated on what the difference of all the modernisms there were. Thank you I found them enlightening. However sir you forgot to mention the fourth category which is meta-modernism.

  • @deskryptic
    @deskryptic5 жыл бұрын

    This is pretty good even for a conservative evangelical perspective (as a non-evangelical).

  • @matijazorko5705
    @matijazorko57052 жыл бұрын

    Were we in the "modern" period one could state the same argument for it: "Biblically there is a connection between God and man since the man was created in gods image."

  • @FrankJWinters
    @FrankJWinters6 жыл бұрын

    Good so far but DR Durst dosen't understand the optimism of Star Trek. It is not a dystopian mythology -- the earth has not been destroyed (that's Blade Runner) but the development of Space Travel and the interracial, inter-species crew show that brotherhood and friendship is universal.

  • @saharkaz2301
    @saharkaz23013 жыл бұрын

    Hi senior morning

  • @markkrul3429
    @markkrul34296 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation...I question his discussion about God healing the land in view of the coming apocalypse which God assures us will happen...then there won't be much left of anything. I do agree though that a repentance of an entire society would bring God's blessing even on the land they occupy...but then the whole world would have to be repentant because bad consequences elsewhere can affect a good situation anywhere....and so back to my thought about the coming apocalypse.

  • @dorkusamericanus
    @dorkusamericanus4 жыл бұрын

    So we had a good 500 or so years of reason, and now we’re back to complete superstition and fearmongering. Cool

  • @Convexhull210

    @Convexhull210

    4 жыл бұрын

    Science is not atheistic.

  • @pavanhareesh7712
    @pavanhareesh77123 жыл бұрын

    how many of you are here after Sosin mam lecture

  • @outofoblivionproductions4015
    @outofoblivionproductions40155 жыл бұрын

    You say the Enlightenment turned the focus to man. You don't say what the Reformation did. The Reformation also turned the focus towards man: away from Church authority and the sacraments, to man's work. The Reformation also increased scepticism about the truth, the foundation of Post-modernism, and the Reformation encouraged unrestrained capitalism which is a cause of the environmental crisis.

  • @JAYDUBYAH29
    @JAYDUBYAH296 жыл бұрын

    Lost all credibility at “the gospel mandate”

  • @deskryptic

    @deskryptic

    5 жыл бұрын

    Julian Walker post-modernism makes it possible to reconsider what you might call "myth".

  • @whiistlingwinds5855

    @whiistlingwinds5855

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same. The diagram was pretty helpful at dispaying the change in time and what each new paradigm brought, but he completely got post-modernism wrong. I don't know what he was talkign about at all lmao.

  • @Convexhull210

    @Convexhull210

    4 жыл бұрын

    Facts don't care about your feelings.

  • @poojadevidevi9372
    @poojadevidevi93725 жыл бұрын

    plz sir Hindi me bnao vedio ore Hindi me Samaj aye ga

  • @DeepakSah3.0

    @DeepakSah3.0

    5 жыл бұрын

    unko hindi nhi aata hoga.

  • @TARUNVERMA911

    @TARUNVERMA911

    4 жыл бұрын

    Arey wo koi indian thode hi hai.. tum to premodern duniya ki soch rakhti ho

  • @jls0037cslewis1
    @jls0037cslewis15 жыл бұрын

    Its the Jews, we baptists have failed.

  • @moonman5543
    @moonman55432 жыл бұрын

    Anyone notice there are 666 likes? Lol

  • @awwadelmahadi5883
    @awwadelmahadi58836 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful lecture until we got to the gibberish of "God" and his requirement of prayers to do or not do something. God is dead, mature up.

  • @IntrospectiveHousewife

    @IntrospectiveHousewife

    Жыл бұрын

    Society goes through cycles. Funny enough, it's accurate to state that God can be resurrected. This is happening with neo-paganism - not just New Age but reconstructive right wing groups.

  • @pelqel9893
    @pelqel98932 жыл бұрын

    Sorry dude. You do not have a full grasp of Modernism, let alone Postmodernism. You do not know the monster in which you are professing allegiance.

  • @alphabeta8284
    @alphabeta82845 ай бұрын

    lol prots whole identity is centered around Catholicism 😂😂

  • @hayataitlhaj2937
    @hayataitlhaj2937Ай бұрын

    It is occupied Palestine 🆓🆓🍉🍉🍉🍉

  • @Sachumqu
    @Sachumqu8 жыл бұрын

    As a Modernist, it is just a nonsense. There is no difference between Pre-Modern and Post-Modern.

  • @KarlMartell732

    @KarlMartell732

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hm, I would argue the societal goals changed. In pre-modern Christian times, the goal was paradise whereasin modernity it was progress in the real world. Post-modernity has no specific societal goal anymore or which is a symptom of decline.

  • @outofoblivionproductions4015

    @outofoblivionproductions4015

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pre-modern is the opposite of Post-modern. Scholasticism refined and Christianised Platonic universals and Aristotlean metaphysics, ethics and science. Post-modernism took modernist scepticism and agnosticism/ atheism to the limit rejecting all absolute truth which ironically killed its own theory.

  • @evanhadkins5532

    @evanhadkins5532

    5 жыл бұрын

    The difference is the fragmenting of identity. Also the sense that language can be problematic. Also pre-modern had more commitment - the kind of in principle scepticism wasn't a thing.

  • @outofoblivionproductions4015

    @outofoblivionproductions4015

    5 жыл бұрын

    You don't make any sense- that's modernism for you.