Fire Fighter , 32 years , this appears to be an obvious inside attack .

The two old ladies just sitting on the lawn like they’re having a tea party 😅

@johnleck5589

16 күн бұрын

Pitiful don’t even bother show up next time!

6:24 I love this shot. Water goes up on the roof and they stand there watching it come back down. That front door sure looks inviting. Just think what a line could do to the attic fire if they just walked in, opened the ceiling and wet down the attic.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

Says the 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life 😂🤣😅

@Fying0strich

Жыл бұрын

4:20 they are inside using a line in the attic. Thats the random spouts going into the sky from inside the building. The roof is collapsing. At some point it was decided to fight the fire defensively. Its a weird looking fire shooting through the roof like that.

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

@@Fying0strich Those are most likely attic vents.

@fdnyfilms3354

Жыл бұрын

Keyboard firefighter is back.

@denisek292

10 ай бұрын

@@fdnyfilms3354 You never fail to crack-me-up! 😂 Hope you’re doing well. Stay safe!

If I lived next door to a fire, instead of sitting out on the lawn watching, I would be collecting my car keys, purse, wallet, a few valuables & a to-go bag asap!

@makaye3259

Жыл бұрын

Me too!

I want to ask the question, what is this works so Row

Thank god they were there to water the grass in the back yard! Not a lot of water on the fire though.

25 years on the department and never saw a house fire extinguished from the outside...get in and put the wet stuff on the red stuff!

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

You've never even set foot in a firehouse let alone worked an actual fire

@Brian13549

Жыл бұрын

So in 25 years you never had to do a defensive surround and drowne operations. Plus they were in side trying to stop it.

@wylieneal1380

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 That's why the Oklahoma Firefighters Retirement deposits a check in my account every month (they used to mail it but now it is direct deposit). 25 years as a firefighter/EMT.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@wylieneal1380 I suppose pretend firefighters should get pretend paychecks 🤣

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@Brian13549 He's never even set foot inside a firehouse let alone worked a fire These wanna-be pretenders do not grasp that actual experienced firefighters can spot their BS a miles away An experienced FF would have noticed the lines stretched inside, as well as the high vaulted ceiling's, and advanced fire stage on the interior. Fires in such ceilings are incredibly difficult to deal with because you cannot pull from the interior to access it. Unless you can get there early enough there really isn't much you can do from the inside even in ideal conditions. Given the advanced stage, if interior attack couldn't make worthwhile progress I would have likely pulled everyone out as well, it's not worth the risk.

Is that a controlled burn.

Why not use the ladder truck? I don’t get it.

who drove over the 4" hose?

I LIKE the way tucumsa? rolls no unnecessary sirens way cool ,FF'S interior attack had wet stuff on the red stuff in about 90 sec after going in the door, amazing,,why did the fire seemed to get worse when they were hitting it with water also the hose flow pattern they used I think is alot better than a jet of water I was very happy to see them using it ,,who ever filmed this Well done!!!

Some shoddy fire fighting here

Lots of pretty fire trucks and lots of guys wondering what to do with them

One chief to another what was up with the ladder engine

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

If you think the ladder could have been useful, quit!

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@JB91710 Says the triggered 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life 😂🤣😅

That thing is rippin

Is this a pd firedept or a vol one

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter. 95% of the paid departments in the USA are just as bad. These videos prove it time and again.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@JB91710 Says the triggered 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life 😂🤣😅

Not going to comment but just ask what was the attack strategy?

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

They had none! That was the problem.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@JB91710 Says the triggered 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life 😂🤣😅

Nice Idea, washing the roof.

Confused on why the officer hopped out with no pack On?

I read one of the comments an interior attack was being performed. So why do I see persons applying water from the exterior?

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

They went in with a line but found the ceiling already coming down so they backed out There is an angle where you can see into the front door ceiling material has clearly come down

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 Then it would have been even easier for them to apply water to all that burning attic material. What you and most people don't get is that the roof was completely intact for many minutes and that's when they should have been getting water through holes in the ceiling to stop this BEFORE the roof started collapsing.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@JB91710 Says the triggered 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life 😂🤣😅

@vinnyb.1314

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 , first off Sheetrock ceilings are not structural…the all the ceiling need to come down , either hydraulicly

@vinnyb.1314

Жыл бұрын

Or manually by “pulling the ceilings”. Once the ceiling are “open then aggressively apply water. The wet stuff on the red suff! Thinks go better at fires when you put water on it !

watch this video: PRE ARRIVAL to a house fire 5678 S Utica Ave, Tulsa OK 9-20-20. This is how you fight a fire from the inside and bring it under control in short order.

I love to see hand line squirting water into the air.

At least they had a close hydrant.

I never understand why the pumper did'nt free the front of the house .......... what happened if the ladder truck must raised the aerial ?

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

They would have put it into service just fine

@greyman686

Жыл бұрын

They would have raised it and put it in operation. Not real difficult to figure out. This may surprised you, but not everyone follows the American rule of the ladder always gets the front.

As a former firefighter this is not smart how they fought this fire. What’s up with the firefighter on the ladder? Totally stupid.

Hmmm why doesn't everyone have scba on

No ladder company?

@OnLocation1

Жыл бұрын

Volunteer based. They grabbed what they could.

WOW no one in the front seat showed up dressed much less with SCBA on! I normally look for good things to say about fire/rescue videos. I did it for 30 years (in the US). I messed up a couple of times myself. I guess I can say they did set up a good water supply. Hope the homeowners have good insurance. God Bless...

Aerial view on Google maps shows a new house being built. Google street view is from prior to the fire.

A number of things that make you go hmmmm. Apparently the first due officer made up his mind that he wouldn’t be doing any interior work upon arrival. Got out, never put on an SCBA, wandered around point his finger at stuff. What was that yahoo doing with the hose on the ground ladder? Actually saw a FF on an exterior line wearing his SCBA mask, but no air pack. What is going on at that department?

@stevepotthast4911

Жыл бұрын

The first responding officer's (usually the engines lieutenant or captain) first job is to size up the scene, ensure the building is evacuated, call for additional assistance when needed and then plan an initial attack, until relieved of command by a senior officer.

No ladder company, big miss. Why they abandoned the interior attack has me baffled, however, I was not on scene so I will defer to the attack teams discretion

Where is this? Tecumseh where?

@michaelduncan232

Жыл бұрын

It sure the hell isn't Tecumseh, Michigan!! Most likely it's Tecumseh Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦

@earlking4299

Жыл бұрын

Wrong color of license plate for Michigan. Besides tecumseh mi is better trained

You notice the guys that are in front of that house they weren't even put water on the damn fire they were shooting it over the roof let it hit the shingles post and it's a good thing everyone videotapes these fires because you can tell by the training that they're not getting they're not getting no training riwhy aim the water over the roof you're not putting the fire out by not putting it on the fire

OMG

American built. Burns well and fast.

Why are guys on the ground with 1 1/2 hoses wasting resources aiming up?

Can't even number the mistakes.Get the ladder up immediately.

Why did the one FF in yard on backup hoseline have a mask on but no pack? Not sure what I just watched. Sad for the homeowner

Waaaay tooo long to get water on the fire after the brake is set. When the park brake is set, it is show time. Set brake, put pump in gear, stretch attack line, make entry ( irons should be at the door and door forced by the time hose is stretched and F/F are ready to make entry. Attack line is charged with tank water. Second engine establishes hydrant water to first engine.

Look where the patrol car parks? 2 weeks no pay in my old town.

Yes . Water please!!! Hello water please. Pull tank to pump . Hello i repeat water!!!

It would be nice if you told us what state this was in.......

@greenmanofkent

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't in a "state" at all. Tecumseh is in Ontario, Canada. Did you not see our flag on the trucks?

@cessnadriver6813

Жыл бұрын

@@greenmanofkent I wouldn't be proud of the performance in WHATEVER city or country...

@moviemagg

Жыл бұрын

@@greenmanofkent There are several cities and towns in America with that same name an no I did not see your flag.

@jsciarri

Жыл бұрын

@@greenmanofkent Canada is a fairy country that drools over maple leaves. Trudeau is a disgrace to the world and needs a haircut.

What are you doing with the hoseline outside let's wet the outside down while the fire takes hold inside ... Way to park the engine right in front where the ladder truck needs to be

Calling that a fire that started in the Kitchen and communicated to attic...It looked scary but pulling some ceiling through the back door on the C side and smooth bore solid stream would have turned this into a whimpering puppy PDQ...Live and learn....

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

A smooth stream would have covered way too little are to stop this, I don't care how much you waved it around. You fog the attic thru a small hole in the ceiling with a medium cone of water and move it around a little and you would shut this off in seconds.

They did a great job of saving the foundation

@kentcarter835

Жыл бұрын

Gee...what an original and clever comment!

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

@@kentcarter835 And where was yours?

I've been on several volunteer for 30 years. I've never seen a department fight a house fire from outside unless it was too far gone!

@williamheber2118

Жыл бұрын

Looks like the 2nd handline went to the entrance on the left of the house and went in?

@aportman58

Жыл бұрын

Based on armchair opinion which is pretty obvious that strategy and tactics were ridiculous! Hopefully they will go back in an after-action and learn from their mistakes???

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@aportman58 What did they do wrong?

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

Well since the fire had already breeched the roof in multiple place before arrival And the primary crew found the vaulted celling & roof falling into the interior I would say it was too far gone to make an interior attack 🙄

@erickaegi629

Жыл бұрын

Virgil Hilts where in the video do you see the roof collapsing or the audio saying the interior ceiling is collapsing? I don't see or hear it.

1:30 Crews masking up to go interior, 1:48 look at the blinds in the window, you can see the fire in the background, well-seated attic fire 3:42 water spray from bottom to top 4:22 Looks like a color change in smoke small steam conversion, and 4:34 - Water coming from inside to the outside of the roof by looks of the water and debris being moved, looks like an attempt at an interior attack, 6:36 2 lines in the door, 8:35 Hose being pre-loaded into the door, crews working interior. The position of this camera does not allow for a good view of the operations at the door, a well-involved attic fire on arrival looks like a pretty quick roof collapse or failure. Really not a good video to make any judgments about tactics other than what was going on outside. The crew got water established pretty quick, with low manpower for sure. Not going to judge because I was not there, BUT if you have fought fires for any amount of time then you have been there, maybe just at a different time and place. No department is perfect buts it's easy to be keyboard chief, I don't know why we insist on eating our own, it's a plague in the fire service.

@aportman58

Жыл бұрын

If the backup line would have been taken interior to support the attack crew I think they could have knocked the attic fire out, but they decided don all their ppe and scabas and piss in the wind from the exterior. I simply don't get it with today's incident commanders???

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@aportman58 An actual experienced firefighter would have noticed that this is a split level home with high vaulted ceilings... thus no attic. Further, an experienced firefighter would have noticed the compromised roof before even going inside, then upon opening the door seen the ceiling/roof collapsing into the interior (as is CLEARLY visible in the video) and immediately transitioned to exterior/defensive ops only. But since you clearly have ZERO experience as an actual firefighter... thanks for the laugh 😂😅🤣

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 2:48 In your extensive construction career, which one would assume you have from your level of confidence in your comment, see those jets of flame and smoke? Where do you think they come from? Little round ski lights? How about individual round roof vents for the cavernous truss roof system? 6:40 Why would a vaulted ceiling have a skylight chimney? A vaulted ceiling would have been much stronger, made from 2x10's, than a truss system that is made of 2x4's. This the collapse. You really have no business telling people they are wrong. Oh, you did get the split-level part right, but any 6-year-old would have gotten that one.

@randywatkins6899

8 ай бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 WELL stayed..........................'NUFF SAID...!

@virgilhilts3924

4 ай бұрын

@@randywatkins6899 Ole JB certainly does like to make a fool of himself 😃

Why don't people move vehicles away from burning buildings ?

Ladder truck??? Maybe use it!!!

I take it there wasn't even a primary search

😳😳😳

Spraying water over the roof into the garden behind will do nothing but water the lawn 😂

I wouldn't want to live there with that fd

@greyman686

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure they're devastated about that.

This video needed some Hill Billy muzik! 😂

Why the f*xk do cops have to park in the way all the time? I guess to feel important!

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

There isn't a single cop parked "in the way" Why do you have to type obvious lies... I guess to feel important

@RLTtizME

Жыл бұрын

They are important...especially when they have to secure the scene on dangerous calls while the fireboys cower blocks away...staging for the all clear. Don't be a jerk.....too late I know.

@robertkirkwood6613

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 at the beginning the cop car was in the way. he moved it after the second truck arrived, if more than truck one came at the same time his ass would have been in the way, park on the grass or sidewalk.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@robertkirkwood6613 At no time was a "cop car" in the way... I suggest you stop making yourself look foolish

@robertkirkwood6613

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 maybe you need to take your glasses off. 🥸🥸🥸🥸

Can't watch it...too much camera zooming in and out and moving.

Wait… wait.. wait… was that member on a ladder backwards with a charged discharged hose trying to put water on top of a house?? Was he trying to be a man made tower ladder???

@aportman58

Жыл бұрын

Yep buddy! Aerial attack on the bravo side!!!

What??? C,mon guys. Ladder should of been where the engine stop...block best avenue, how long you gonna flush that hydrant, let's go....

Why is the audio focused out of the left ear? Ugh, I hate channels who do this.

For everyone that was quick to judge and "should have run inside. Maybe brush up on your building construction. Or you LODD reports. Let's not let those that gave theirs before us have gone in vane. Smarten up

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

Well, that comment didn't teach us anything.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@JB91710 Says the triggered 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life 😂🤣😅

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Oh No..5:03 it is Grandpaw turn on the Super 8mm 🥴

I don't want to seem like I'm critical of this department but it looks like they are a little on the passive side ,they need more training on how mount an aggressive attack

@cessnadriver6813

Жыл бұрын

They had ZERO sense of urgency to protect their neighbors property and someday I hope one or more of these same FFers are in the same position as this owner was and watched slow ass firefighters...as their whole f'ing life goes up in flames. Isn't it these same firefighters who tell us how fast a fire progresses each minute every Christmas regarding xmas tree fires? Well, I didn't see that same urgency here as massive flames were already poking thru the roof as they arrived. Hypocrites.

@rj4590

Жыл бұрын

@@cessnadriver6813 And what is with throwing water over the roof?

Omg! This crew needs serious re- training STARTING WITH THE CAPTAIN!

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@jsciarri

Жыл бұрын

The chief is also the master chef at Burger King.

@paramedic1210

Жыл бұрын

Captain jumps off the truck with no SCBA.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@paramedic1210 So what?

@paramedic1210

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 can’t go to work without breathing apparatus. But obviously it shows with the pathetic video

Unreal who taught them what to do sometimes you have to get inside to put a fire out glad I don't live there

@thomasmcdermott2245

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry I did not explain myself correctly I have been a volunteer firefighter for 40 years clearly a lot more training needs to be done we don't know what kind of a turn out we will get but everyone knows what to do sometimes I had to set up the pump set the relief valve pack up and go in to help until mutual aid arrive training is the answer

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasmcdermott2245 Not training, firefighting is too easy for a lot of training. Common sense and logic combined with a strong and responsible work ethic are what is needed in the USA.

@thomasmcdermott2245

Жыл бұрын

Really did not realize that training needs to be done weather or not you have common sense so just put up a sign stating no training needed just common sense see what happens afterwards let me know how many funerals you attend

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasmcdermott2245 The vast majority of USA departments lack common sense and logic completely and see where that got them. Tons of the wrong training account for nothing. UL and ISFSI are 95% correct and 95% of USA departments ignore them. Yep, common sense and logic and a strong work ethic can take you a long way. Funerals? You won't attend any if you fight fires the way I explain them. LODDs happen when you act brave and play the hero instead of just doing the job. Most people don't even know what the job is.

@thomasmcdermott2245

Жыл бұрын

Everyone has a point of view I do what works for me and my department as you do what works for you

Get inside guys!!!! WTF

I'll never understand why people leave there CARS in the driveway. Move them if possible BEFORE firfighters arrive, its just one more WICK to start burning. GEESH

@michaelswidorsky7147

Жыл бұрын

When it's your house on fire you don't tend to think rationally.

@greyman686

Жыл бұрын

Because their shit is on fire and the cars probably aren't the biggest thing on their mind.

Got to love a white helmet that puts on the helmet and no turnout gear ..unbelievable…

@chrislow2484

Жыл бұрын

S.O.P? who are you to judge?

air pack on and donned in the front yard lol

It’s one of them..who thinks showing smoke hundreds of feet in the air..is important!! It is not. Focus only on the House on Fire! Nothing else matters! Fire and House!

JFC. Same mistakes over and over. Just sat and watched take perfectly manageable attic fire and let it burn a roof off. Pretty shoddy.

Đa số là do chập điện..vì nhà bên Mỹ người dân sử dụng thiết bị điện nhiều quá..dây điện lâu năm xuống cấp

Did Michael J Fox film this?

All the videos I've watched where American f/fighters are sooooo painfully slow! Maybe these guys/gals should be retrained by the UK fire services.

Good grief.

Go in pull celings add water fire goes away.

@joek0617

Жыл бұрын

nah, fire progressed too fast creating a collapse issue

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

You have no clue what you are talking about

@RLTtizME

Жыл бұрын

We hope the same applies to you.

As usual, it took too long to get water on the fire. Just the truth. Now, get defensive.

Tyler Mac let me fight the fire I can do it all

I am sorry to armchair but that backup line should have had their butts inside and backing up interior crews with knocking down a fully involved attic...instead of sitting outside pissing in the wind. Other than that great video!

Today’s fire service! I feel for the home owner. They should be embarrassed!

No interior attack?! They have plenty of time to perform an interior attack! This is not a surround and drowned!

@hihfty

Жыл бұрын

It looks like they tried. at 4:34 you can see a stream shooting up through the vent whole. It just looks like they weren’t able to get good access to the attic space.

@ShakeNBake4200

Жыл бұрын

@@hihfty if you can’t get good access make good access pull some ceiling!

It's clean and spotless you're nice and shiny you keep them trucks why can't you spend the money and put water cannons on every truck so as soon as you pull up to a fire you can start put water on it right away while the guys are getting the hoses out once the guys put the start putting water on it with the hoses then you can shut the water cannon off but you guys really don't care about rather people's houses thousands if that was your own house would you still take your time on getting everything out and readyIt's clean and spotless you're nice and shiny you keep them trucks why can't you spend the money and put water cannons on every truck so as soon as you pull up to a fire you can start put water on it right away while the guys are getting the hoses out once the guys put the start putting water on it with the hoses then you can shut the water cannon off but you guys really don't care about rather people's houses thousands if that was your own house would you still take your time on getting everything out and ready And like I said in the beginning you keep them trucks nice and shiny why can't you keep the hoses the fittings on all the hoses seal the way you don't lose no water on the ground all the water goes on the fire

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

A Deck Gun is only useful if you can see the burning material. You couldn't see it here until they LET the roof burn off. Water on flames and smoke usually waters the backyard grass only.

Attic fire, I seen they was hitting inside, but should have had the guys outside inside pulling ceiling. To be a volunteer department, not a bad job other than home owners losing there belongings. Bedroom contents to a attic fire it appears. Surprise me a city that size the chief, AC and fire prevention officer is only paid. I’m sure Volunteers get paid on call but still. Cheap ass city of 25/30+ to abuse not to use career at-least 2 per station.

@greyman686

Жыл бұрын

Yes, their members would be paid on call. Two per station is pretty well useless, at least as far as structure fires go, especially if their stations aren't close together. You're either waiting for the second staffed truck to arrive to mount any sort of real attack or for the POC members to get on scene. Obviously adding 16 career, double if you staff a truck at both stations, is going to cost millions in salaries alone.

@CaptainLDH

Жыл бұрын

@@greyman686 we run two on each rig here. Southern states of USA. Population 19.000. 3 stations, 2 Engines, 1 Truck/Quint, a Quick attack/Rescue and Two ambulances. Total ten full time personnel each shift. One chief officer jumps from rescue. 12 volunteers paid on call. Sometimes you can’t provide services by the book. NFPA is a standard for departments with funding.

Why don't try these people and move their cars away to front fires will lose car too 😱

Why are they shooting water in the vent holes and over the noise into the backyard next door ? it’s self vented, attack from underneath the fire. But it looks like with fire in the front window blinds that there is more involved than it looks like from where the cameraman is. A nicely placed truck and truck company would have been helpful.

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

Many people have mentioned the front window fire. That orange "Light" never moved or got bigger. The roof and ceiling at that location is the strongest in the entire house. The blinds were messed up, but I wouldn't Guess that it was from falling ceiling.

They should equip command vehicles with a quick hose mount so they can pull a hose to the nearest hydrant faster.

@NPhillips856

Жыл бұрын

Why command vehicles? Normal hose lays either happen hydrant to fire or fire to hydrant, either by the first or second engine. The first engines primary focus is getting that first report in and stretching a line and then the other stuff if no second crew is there yet.

I'm not a FF and have no clue but I see people with different colored helmets, is there a reason for it?

@keith2092

Жыл бұрын

@Dark Toad One In this video, you can see a red helmet (captain or lieutenant fire officer) and later a white helmet (battalion chief or chief) shows up. The Rescue Company all wore black helmets. In the initial attack, E-1 had yellow helmets for firemen (probably). Many departments have a different helmet shield color between laddermen and enginemen; red for ladder. Hope this helps because it's a good question.

Damn, it is the russians!

Maybe volunteers, maybe not really ready mentally or physically for an interior attack. If they are volunteers/POCs, you get who you can get. Probably run more medicals and mvas than structure fires. If they can contain the fire to the original structure, that may be the best they can do right now. All grown adults in reasonable physical shape, if you reside in a community with such a department and can do it better, come on down!

@ronjohnson1800

Жыл бұрын

They are this city is near Detroit/Windsor in Canada

@billshaw770

Жыл бұрын

@@ronjohnson1800 yes they are! I live northwest of Detroit about 50 miles, been through Windsor, Essex, etc many times.

@firevike2420

Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen volunteers work harder and faster, for FREE!!!

@billshaw770

Жыл бұрын

@@firevike2420 absolutely! I was a volunteer in a rural district in Washington state 30 years ago. There were about 20 firefighters covering 3 stations and 9 apparatus. Several of these firefighters were over 50 a couple were over 60, and the younger ones often worked in the daytime where they couldn't respond to calls. So a structure job in the evening was ideal, on a Tuesday at 10 AM often required mutual aid from other districts like ours from many miles away. There wasn't nearly enough tax base to support a paid staff at the time, we did the best we could with what we had. And that was decades ago, requirements these days make recruiting even more difficult!

@firevike2420

Жыл бұрын

@@billshaw770 I volunteered for about 5 years before relocating out west. Our station was a career/vol station that was staffed with 4 FT’ers 24/7 with 2 Engines, 2 Medics, a Tower, a Heavy Rescue, a Tanker, 2 Brush Trucks, 2 Boats, and a Dive Rescue. Depending on the call, the 4 “Career Guys” would take the first due rig and the Volunteers brought what was needed from the above parade. EVERYONE worked together, drilled EVERY Saturday, and were family. The county invested in supporting the “cheaper” way of delivering services and there was years of tradition and experience within the members, who ranged from 16 year old cadets to 60 year old smoke eaters who mentored the young. We got anything and everything done right, if not we trained harder and would pay for it for sure the following Saturday. We trained with other nearby FT departments that barely scraped by with trying to just afford the staffing, and they were the ones trying to keep up with us… Just because someone volunteers does not mean they can’t do it, and I will always defend the devotion others have to protect their neighbors and community for free. Thanks for sharing and stay safe Brother!

30 years on job……..embarrassing……initial attack inside…… pull ceilings……..go defense only after exhausting all offensive tactics……

Instantly demote or consider dismissal of the incident commander, absolutely awful tactics , I'm a retired professional fire officer of 30 years service in the UK, I'm embarrassed to be associated with this total luck up

@steelpenny7056

Жыл бұрын

Me to Brother! I did 30 years as a very active Volunteer firefighter and climbed the command ladder here in the USA in Maryland. We do things differently, in the US and Uk but we both get the job done well. Those guys are a joke. Be safe and God Bless...

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

But what you saw here is Typical in the Colonies!

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@JB91710 Says the 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life 😂🤣😅

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 What, do you copy and paste that childish guesswork?

I don't know what the hell is up with the fire Department hear lately, but all of them seem to be in extra slow motion. Pick up the fucking pace or either go be a door greeter Wal-Mart ok dam

sorry not you ....them...

I am not critiquing this fire and am not a fire professional. Just as an observer, but that stick showed up and could have pulled up to that pumper a little more and raised that stick and they could have streamed from the ladder.

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

Nope, but keep thinking.

@stevepotthast4911

Жыл бұрын

You don't stream from a ladder when an interior attack is in progress. That's a very good way to cause a roof collapse or force the fire down onto the people inside.

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

@@stevepotthast4911 You have no clue.

@norm91370

Жыл бұрын

@@stevepotthast4911 Why would anyone not fight that fire outside? It already burned through the roof putting everyone entering that building at risk. I guess I pay attention to safety to much and that should not apply here!

It's unbelievable how slow these firefighters are, I mean just look at them walking around not trying to run or hurry or anything, I mean Jesus Christ the people's house is only burning up! I guess they figure no big hurry, just let the insurance company cover it, but yet all their belongings is being burnt up, things you can't get back! These guys should be hurrying and stop acting like they have all day, like no big hurry! Jesus!

These guys ride the ambulance too much,

What a complete and utter embarrassment!!! I could have done better by myself with an engine and a 12 year old kid. Engine should leave front of house for truck (if anyone within 30 miles of this town has one), officer has no air pack, cop car blocking street(not their fault, but I would have told them to move it immediately). Guys getting off other rigs not even dressed yet. Taking way too long to get line in service. GO INSIDE! Front door wide open, zero smoke coming out!!! 1 3/4 is obviously shooting over house and the idiot is yard breathing. Thank god they have foam. :). My guess is that you still could have made entry and knocked it down. You wouldn't even have to pull ceilings the shit would just drop if it hasn't already. That said, If you're going to stand outside because you're scared or fire is too big, use a bigger line, master stream or better yet an elevated master stream!. Would have deployed a deck gun if you can get a good angle or at least a 2 1/2. Anyone notice that every company that arrives, drives in like they are on a Sunday afternoon walk in the park. If the fire department never responded,, the outcome would have been exactly the same.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

You have never even set foot inside a firehouse let alone worked an actual fire I'm amazed how you pretend FF's don't grasp how easily actual FF's can see that you are FOS

@TransmitThe1075

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 I guess your the guy shooting the water over the roof with your mask on? Or the Capt who gets off the rig without his scott? I know you're not the homeowner who watched his house burn to the ground or you'd be equally upset.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@TransmitThe1075 It's sad that you're this ignorant

@justanotherguy1110

Жыл бұрын

If you paid close enough attention, while the guy is on the exterior watering the roof (I admit that's pointless) but you can see if you look at the roofline where the fire is at, they already have a crew inside trying to hit it. You can see the stream shoot through the holes in the roof every now & then. They made the attempt, there's no telling what was going on, on the inside. You're a Monday morning quarterbacker if I've ever seen one. You have to complain about everything, guess what, nothing ever goes perfect, get off your high horse..."Hero"

@TransmitThe1075

Жыл бұрын

@@justanotherguy1110 I didn't have to wait until Monday. I could have told you the minute I got there. The front door is wide open. You know, the door you're supposed to enter for a whole host of reasons, including protecting egress for potential 2nd floor victims. Also makes life in most cases easier trying to find both the basement stairs and 2nd floor. There is zero smoke coming out the door. You can see the entire first floor. You can see a small amount of fire on the floor of the second floor (that has dropped down) Not that you should, but you could of made the second floor without a mask on. If anyone in the first 10 minutes of arrival of this fire, went half up the stairs opened the line and blasted the ceiling for 30 seconds, its likely the entire fire would have gone out, since the integrity of the roof is mostly still there, which would have held in all the steam and knocked everything down. I am not some 1960's salty dog from FDNY, but I've been to this exact fire more times than I can remember. It looks impressive from the outside, but barring some bizarre anomaly, it should have been relatively easy for the first due engine company. What you see here is chaos and unprofessionalism. And because I took learning my job serious, it irritates me when others love to pretend to be fire fighters, love to tell women they are fire fighters, they just aren't when the shit hits the fan.

alway always first due in pass the house so the ladder truck can do its job, in this case the truck was dead rest of the engines just piled in. Interior attack with one line with major volume of fire didnt think to send in a back up line did ya, of course not. your an embarresment to all firefighters

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

You repeated what some idiot told you to think, very well.

@greyman686

Жыл бұрын

This is Canada. It may shock you to find this out, Deneen, but not everyone in the world follows the "engine will pass and save the front for the truck" thought process of the US.

@deneenpowers3615

Жыл бұрын

@@greyman686 grey your absoluty true on that, thou every county has they different ways and styles of operation, job gets done the same way

Very strange approach, this is why a 75' mid mount ladder has to be accounted for when the engine crew arrives first on the scene, especially when there is obvious roof work to be done.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

It was obvious before they even arrived that no "roof work" was gong to be done as fire had already compromised the roof And when the initial crew made entry and found the vaulted celling/roof collapsing to the first floor... It was obvious they weren't going to make an interior attack PS The ladder was perfectly fine and could have been used if needed

@danieldowning7319

Жыл бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 what fire were you watching?

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

@@danieldowning7319 The one that took place in the real world... as opposed to your imagination

@danieldowning7319

Жыл бұрын

I watched this video three times. When was the front door ever opened? When the first engine pulled up, the fire was confined to the rear of the roof. How was this imminent collapse calculated? The number of comments, from other professional firefighters, leads me to believe, it is you, that has a problem, with reallity, regarding this particular, fire video.

@JB91710

Жыл бұрын

Ladders are Useless and so are the people who think they are.

A very strange way to fight a house fire.

@samlittleton1491

Жыл бұрын

lol right. like why are they hitting it from the yard on the opposite side.

@RLTtizME

Жыл бұрын

How so. Please prepare a complete report with full references and photos.

@samlittleton1491

Жыл бұрын

@@RLTtizME well first thing would be go interior, second why not pull a line around back and fight the fire where the fire is

@RLTtizME

Жыл бұрын

@@samlittleton1491 They had entered the structure and were fighting fire from the inside as well. Note hoses through the front door. Please direct me to those parts of the video showing FF activities at the rear of the house. My copy of the video does not show anything to do with what is going on in the rear. Please post these sections of the video that you have.

@kens991

Жыл бұрын

That's the way, leave everything that Will burn, Contents of garage, car out front, too busy watching it all catch on. Then panic when it does.