Am I the only one that gets a "Bob Ross of the smithy" vibe from John, here? Good info, great work and very relaxing to watch.

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

You are not the first to mention it

Awww the magic of the blacksmith never gets old especially with a smooth operator like you John :-) great pair of tongs by the way!

@benzracer

5 жыл бұрын

Christ Centered Ironworks like the Bob Ross of blacksmithing

Another great video as usual. Particularly enjoyed the cameo of the trough heater in your water cooling tank to keep if from freezing! As the brits would say...brilliant!

I like how this project is sort of a "forge-a-long w/ BBF" production!

I am absoluitely enjoying this series and have appreciated the level of detail you've gone into for these. Thank you for the videos

I really like the work along concept.

I love the way you explain why and how you do things. More information is always good.

Thanks for showing both heating methods, very helpful for those of us without torch setups!

I just finished building my coal forge (from scratch) a week ago using DF in the shop as a guide. I'm now making 25 leaf key rings one after the other following Alex Steel advice.... then I'm going to make these tongs because I only have one set of heavy wolf jaw tongs....Then I'm gonna make a power hammer as per Roy's. Loving every minute of becoming a blacksmith although I have a looooong way to go!

LOL it’s so cool seeing these made from scratch, instead of from a blank. Amusing thing is I have been making a video on how to forge these from a blank. Seeing the video from scratch, there are some things I would do differently

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

I'll look forward to seeing that video.

The fine details are one of the things that makes your videos great

Awesome breakdown of the process. Thanks John!!

Great 👍 video!

Lot of work drawing out the rains I really like doing they too. Ready for the next video. All the details are great love the step by step info. Thx again John.......Paul

So far, so good. Great project so far John, the final product will look great. Fantastic even.

Great series yet again. Can’t wait to see these in action. 👍🏼

Love the instructional aspect here. Great technique.

Love your vids!! Very informative. I also like the hook on your oxy acet torch ,will be making one today for mine

@BlackBearForge

Жыл бұрын

The torch setup is a Gas Saver made by Smith. It has a valve that shuts off the gas when the torch is hung up. T%here is a video here - kzread.info/dash/bejne/epiDwdyoYazFg9o.html

@samlavoie9216

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackBearForge Smith are top shelf OA torches.

thank you again for showing options and working out the fiddlyness (its now a word) ;)

Will be making a series of these for different stock and maybe from different thickness for heavier work. Thanks for sharing this John! Happy new year!

I had a go at poz tongs I found by tack welding both bars to gether I could get my top part identical then spilt the bars and draw out ps just started in smithting so beginner

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good way to keep things even.

Perhaps at the end when these are finished put together, would you do a side by side comparison and talk about what these style of tongs do better, or different than a standard pair of tongs?

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

While I have discussed the pros and cons of different tong styles in previous videos, I may do a part 4 wrap up and comparison of some sort.

Loving this project

Looking great so far John!

I like the work along John

really appreciate metric also in measurements i know its seems silly but takes all the note taking to convert later

Thanks for sharing!

Thank You!

Saved both the pox tong videos

Instead of Aluminum spacers in the vise jaws, see if you can find some stainless angle of similar dimensions. The Aluminum is quickly drawing the heat out of the piece, stainless is a fairly terrible conductor and will cool the work more slowly.

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

The aluminum is used because it provides a better grip so the work slips less.

@sladoeii

5 жыл бұрын

Ah, so the softness of the material helps conform to the surface? The stainless could be roughed up significantly to improve the grip, though still not quite as soft as the Aluminum.

John if you put that hardy down where it would sit on the anvil i.e the ledge it would not move in the vice.

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

Except that due to my well worn hardy hole the hardy shank does not form a square shoulder and would hold even worse. plus to present the best camera angle the hardy turned in such a way that there is no shoulder to sit in the vise.

@lenblacksmith8559

5 жыл бұрын

@@BlackBearForge Ok mate that makes it hard.

Did you find using aluminum for your vice jaws drew the heat out too fast? I'd imagine aluminum would dissipate heat too well.

You could've also preheated the bending jig with a chunk of hot steel. 🐾⚒🔥

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

You could, but it is the cooling from slack tub to vise that is the big problem not so much the cooling from the forks themselves.

John, another great video, I just started on making a pair, and was wondering if it would cause a problem if you split the jaw before you bent them. If not you could use the type of vise insert that you use for doing animal heads to support the jaw while splitting . Also have you discovered Dave Engels's channel Engelscoachshop, if not you might enjoy it, being a woodworker and a blacksmith.

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

It might be a problem when you are forging everything back into alignment.

@leonardmontgomery6302

5 жыл бұрын

@@BlackBearForge Thanks

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When you put the bright orange tong jaws in the clamp, how close were the hot jaws to the melting point of the aluminum vice inserts? Is there a danger there?

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

It seems like it could be an issue, but it never has been

Dag had notes ...But mine stsrted out looking like yours would look in a mirror ..yes my homework is reverse yours ....I will use other end tomorrow .. Thanks

Would using 3/8”thick stock be to much for these tongs?

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

It all depends on the material you will be holding. For 1/4 - 3/8 I think 1/4" stock is plenty. But once you get over 1/2" the 3/8 material might be better.

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What tip on the torch do you use?

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

Here it was probably about a #3 welding tip

How does the torch work? I see you grab it and its lit, then set it down and a few seconds later hear the snap of the flame going out. How do you do it all one handed?

@shadetreeforge

5 жыл бұрын

What he uses is a device made for that I believe it's called a flame saver? it has a valve for oxy n acteylene that is connected to an arm it also has a built in pilot light, initialy you set the torch how you want it, light the pilot, when done hang torch on the arm, torch go's out, when ready, lift torch off the arm light it with pilot and you're good to go! Great for doing lots of repeated spot heating, like John was doing

@shadetreeforge

5 жыл бұрын

Check out Tom Walters channel, click on OA Gas saver ignitor video and he shows how it's used, hope this helps!

@BlackBearForge

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/c616zbCOnKurXdY.html

@ericjason5773

5 жыл бұрын

@@shadetreeforge Yes, thank you.

@ericjason5773

5 жыл бұрын

@@BlackBearForge Here i thought i had seen all of videos, alas i am mistaken. Thank you for the link.