Powerful 5000W 12V 48V Sine INVERTER

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Hello, Today I will share with you a new project. It is 5KW inverter using 24 mosfet. It can work at 12V to 48V. Power at 12v is 1500W, Maximum power at 48V is 5000W, Of course that's the capacity of the board, You will need a large enough transformer. Need a 20Kg transformer for 5000W / 48V. If using 12V, I recommend mosfet IRF1404, 48V is IRFB4110.
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  • @PhdHung
    @PhdHung3 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Today I will share with you a new project. It is 5KW inverter using 24 mosfet. It can work at 12V to 48V. Power at 12v is 1500W, Maximum power at 48V is 5000W, Of course that's the capacity of the board, You will need a large enough transformer. Need a 20Kg transformer for 5000W / 48V. If using 12V, I recommend mosfet IRF1404, 48V is IRFB4110.

  • @nabilseoudi2910

    @nabilseoudi2910

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great work and nice project, would you consider to sell it as unassembled kit? Regards.

  • @rehancd100

    @rehancd100

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi dear need this project files

  • @BENJY0919

    @BENJY0919

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Homemade 102 Bro, if possible send me the PCB file (BRD.) Eagle please benjy_0920@hotmail.com

  • @onomatopejaB

    @onomatopejaB

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, nice project! :) one question: is this „modified sin” or „pure sin” inverter? Cheers!

  • @xierxu

    @xierxu

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can this board use High-frequency transformers?

  • @MrFrankrodrigues
    @MrFrankrodrigues3 жыл бұрын

    Now only a mppt 60A controller project is needed to compose an off-grid solar system. excellent inverter design

  • @vinodvinees1629

    @vinodvinees1629

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exact i want pls

  • @ErfanRv
    @ErfanRv3 жыл бұрын

    Finally, a new Multimeter 😍

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    :D

  • @joshuadavid2467
    @joshuadavid24673 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this project keep up the good work

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @wimbozone
    @wimbozone3 жыл бұрын

    Always like to watch his video, always inspires electronics hobbyists Greetings from Indonesia

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @perkedelkornet840

    @perkedelkornet840

    3 жыл бұрын

    nice

  • @Davidslabofficial
    @Davidslabofficial3 жыл бұрын

    Another beautiful project awesome awesome love it💓

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro

  • @Davidslabofficial

    @Davidslabofficial

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhdHung Welcome brother 💓

  • @adebesingbolahan9749
    @adebesingbolahan97493 жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much Homemade102 for continuously sharing your knowledge with us.... This is a great!!!

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

  • @robsondominguesdealmeida3780
    @robsondominguesdealmeida37803 жыл бұрын

    We are diferent contry, but same vocation. I have waste too in my oficine. Showwww. God blesse you. Thanks

  • @hiddensoundlabdigitalrecor2303
    @hiddensoundlabdigitalrecor23033 жыл бұрын

    YOU DESERVE IT TO SUBSCRIBE YOU. LOVE FROM BANGLADESH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH

  • @mayoortechinnovations
    @mayoortechinnovations3 жыл бұрын

    Wow I so much love this please can this design also change batteries and how and please can I get info on how to get all the components especially the CT and variable resistors and buck convert, thanks

  • @Bossa860
    @Bossa8603 жыл бұрын

    Otimo seu trabalho amigo.

  • @nayyarmehmood341
    @nayyarmehmood3413 жыл бұрын

    Great project👌👌

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @Dc_tech386
    @Dc_tech3862 жыл бұрын

    Great job as usual. A question the egs002 driver pin 5 and 9 Should I connect differently to the drain out put to the transformer if am using 48 volt or should I use a 10k resistor but I don’t see any information on it on the data sheet and higher voltage the 12

  • @saungdiy
    @saungdiy3 жыл бұрын

    good job sir👍👍 really neat design i like u project

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

  • @bacolodtv4166
    @bacolodtv41663 жыл бұрын

    wow.. thank you for sharing ..

  • @DIlic-iz9tx
    @DIlic-iz9tx3 жыл бұрын

    _Great. Can you raise the AC output voltage to 230V or 240V. Thank you._

  • @salmanahmed9464
    @salmanahmed94643 жыл бұрын

    Again great job ...Excellent design and work....really appreciated.....

  • @victorrinz6856
    @victorrinz68563 жыл бұрын

    Nice inverter

  • @ToddDesiato
    @ToddDesiato3 жыл бұрын

    Have you tested this for long-term operation, in an enclosure with fans? I think your capacitors are going to pop. They are not big enough to handle the sustained ripple currents from a 5kW sine wave inverter.

  • @jamesbounsall5478

    @jamesbounsall5478

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey Todd - I have some huge problems with inverters, I thought I would reach out and see if you might be able to help. Tried to message you on KZread, but can't find a way, so thought try my luck here. I am in New Zealand and need some help - cheers

  • @ToddDesiato

    @ToddDesiato

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesbounsall5478 I can be reached at ncsolarelectric.com.

  • @ddoskd
    @ddoskd2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, can you tell me which module you have installed in the "module back", PCS XL7015? If so, how do you configure it? What function does it perform on the board? Thanks.

  • @vodamvan4786
    @vodamvan4786 Жыл бұрын

    Men máy đẹp lét Xin chúc mừng kênh này

  • @nazimseydametov5901
    @nazimseydametov59013 жыл бұрын

    Good job!

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank bro

  • @liaskliask
    @liaskliask3 жыл бұрын

    special project keep up the good work !!!

  • @amadeoortiz
    @amadeoortiz3 жыл бұрын

    Do you think than it can work with a 1.5kW (2HP) deep well pump, and which is the Duty Cycle than it supports..

  • @beneditotassa6448
    @beneditotassa64488 ай бұрын

    Muito obrigado pelo projeto

  • @kruthiktr1156
    @kruthiktr11563 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Can you please make auto mains changeover circuit to use inverter as ups

  • @bimalsubasinghe7584

    @bimalsubasinghe7584

    Жыл бұрын

    Please use relay circuit with proper logic

  • @jackpatteeuw9244
    @jackpatteeuw92443 жыл бұрын

    I downloaded the .rar file but the schematic.pdf is not good. What exactly does the ATtiny13 microprocessor do ?

  • @crispinconstantino4546
    @crispinconstantino45462 жыл бұрын

    Gd Day! Nice its very useful...

  • @electronic7979
    @electronic79793 жыл бұрын

    Excellent

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @AkiroDemonSlayer123
    @AkiroDemonSlayer1233 жыл бұрын

    Great bro

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro

  • @89Krueger
    @89Krueger3 жыл бұрын

    Buenas, soy de Costa Rica, me gustaría saber el precio de una placa completa, una placa ya soldada

  • @BATISTAPROFE
    @BATISTAPROFE3 жыл бұрын

    Saludos, excelente.

  • @ajw6715
    @ajw67152 жыл бұрын

    Very good!

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @trollking202
    @trollking20211 ай бұрын

    Does come with all the pieces 😮

  • @DinoPasic
    @DinoPasic2 жыл бұрын

    I have edecoa inverter, and cut off voltage is too low for me. I can adjust it with this screw?

  • @engineersarfrazahmed2609
    @engineersarfrazahmed2609 Жыл бұрын

    I have designed this inverter for 24 volts , but i get tester phase light on for both neutral and phase wires of transformer, The voltage also drops to 175 volts from 240 volts on applying 6 amps load. My batteries are good, transformer is 2500 watt what should I do,please guide

  • @letsentertain6439
    @letsentertain64393 жыл бұрын

    Kindly design this one for High voltage dc 300 or 400vdc to 220 Ac with larger size Mosfets Thanks

  • @akeshakku3425
    @akeshakku34253 жыл бұрын

    Best perfomance board bro 12 v

  • @jett-electro3406
    @jett-electro34062 жыл бұрын

    Nice work sir, I really like your configuration, can you guide on how to set up the buck converter

  • @petrok8618
    @petrok861811 ай бұрын

    Hi! interesting solution to use resistor 4.7Ohm and fast diode in Gate circuit.Will help to open transistor more softly, but to close it as fast as possible in same time! But what is the purpose of using one 10kOhm resistor between gate and Minus terminal for each parallel section of mosfets?

  • @Yangiyul
    @Yangiyul3 жыл бұрын

    good job!

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro

  • @johnhajdu4276
    @johnhajdu42763 жыл бұрын

    What is the value of the inductivity 9:06 below the 3,5uF capacitor?

  • @prasannajayasanka4895
    @prasannajayasanka48953 жыл бұрын

    Woow great bro

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro

  • @sanjayan76

    @sanjayan76

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dspic based 12 to120 v full auto solar sinewave inverter design ready for sail including source code and pcb design.. microsanju@gmail.com

  • @elreypic8620
    @elreypic86203 жыл бұрын

    Excellent work and thanks for sharing it. Could you add the .brd file into the zip file (you miss it). And, I would like to ask you the bill of materials. Thanks in advance

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    ok bro. wait me

  • @huskylfp1505
    @huskylfp15053 жыл бұрын

    Excelente!

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

  • @huutinhnguyen8733
    @huutinhnguyen87333 жыл бұрын

    Kiếm mãi mới thấy bình luận của mấy ông Việt Nam. Hi

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thêm 1 :D

  • @TOMMASZ1972
    @TOMMASZ19722 жыл бұрын

    Hello Friend. I am just about to build such an inverter. It just doesn't know which CT-current transformer to use. What tensions and how to make it or where to buy it ?. Thank you for your answer my friend.

  • @MuhammadYaseen-vx5hw
    @MuhammadYaseen-vx5hw3 жыл бұрын

    which inverter of watts, is better for computer system included cpu, 24" lcd, sound woofer speakers ??????? I am awaiting for your reply.....

  • @ydprojects4572
    @ydprojects45723 жыл бұрын

    can you make an auto buck bost converter using atmega8 with a 16x2 display indicator?

  • @jorgevillamilarellano6789
    @jorgevillamilarellano67893 ай бұрын

    One question, does the totem pole tip 41c and 42c heat up when the inverter is turned on?

  • @ferencszabo3504
    @ferencszabo3504 Жыл бұрын

    Hi! Im looking in the scheme and the AVR is maybe connected to the wrong side of the 7805!?The pin numbers on the 7805 are correct just the Vo and Vin are switched! I saw the other video with the TLP250, why are you went back to the oruginal Eg002? It's really an amazing project

  • @davidtega7567
    @davidtega75673 жыл бұрын

    which specification on CT (current transformer)? I can't see the number. How Volts? Ampére?

  • @mateusteles2225

    @mateusteles2225

    2 жыл бұрын

    TAMBEM GOSTARIAD E SABER

  • @majdsuliman2152
    @majdsuliman21523 жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to add a charging system when a professorial electrician comes

  • @olegP1000
    @olegP1000 Жыл бұрын

    Hello, do you have any projects for high power inverter to step down from 3 phase rectified DC which is 540V to 220V AC? Thank you!

  • @vinodvinees1629
    @vinodvinees16293 жыл бұрын

    You are an amazing man. I love very much pls make ful mppt pure sinewave solar inverter with allpro

  • @vinodvinees1629

    @vinodvinees1629

    3 жыл бұрын

    Full protection circuit at the earliest

  • @yusifsuleiman5502
    @yusifsuleiman5502 Жыл бұрын

    Pls, I need a guide. I have an old 24v 1800watts apc-ups transformer hanging around for quite some time. Pls, how can I make use of it by making an inverter. Thanks

  • @TwittDroid28
    @TwittDroid283 жыл бұрын

    Where did you buy that soldering iron?

  • @diastec2687
    @diastec26873 жыл бұрын

    great! you can give tips on how to design the current transformer (TC), thanks.

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Core EI 16, pre 3 turn. Sec 150 turn.

  • @rolandotan

    @rolandotan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhdHung hello good day can u gave me the size of magnetic wire thnx

  • @GamePediaBkl

    @GamePediaBkl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhdHung how email wires are used ?

  • @ashishnaik666

    @ashishnaik666

    3 жыл бұрын

    How mm wire guage are use

  • @ferroperro3639
    @ferroperro3639 Жыл бұрын

    Does all the components are mentioned in BOM list?

  • @h_pars
    @h_pars3 жыл бұрын

    Hi power and nice.home made i think you forget upload brd file again.because when we have brd eagle file it so easy to made pcb and we can see all component and board in eagle ....tanx

  • @corybodiker6243
    @corybodiker62433 жыл бұрын

    Hi there I was wondering how I could order the boards from the company without a computer all I have is my iPhone? Thanks

  • @muvirimig
    @muvirimig2 жыл бұрын

    I have got a faulty 48v APC Matrix 5000 UPS which I want to use as an inverter for Solar, How much can it cost me for a new designed board to run this heavy (est 100kg) transformer, maybe to give out 10Kw?

  • @amadeoortiz
    @amadeoortiz3 жыл бұрын

    i´m going to plug a battery pack, does i need the toroidal inductor?

  • @jeandimitrov8472
    @jeandimitrov8472 Жыл бұрын

    Please specify the details of the current transformer (CT) or a link to a store and also the settings for the buck LM2596 (votage OUT). Thanks

  • @PhdHung
    @PhdHung3 жыл бұрын

    Tomorrow, I will fully charge the battery and test it with full load

  • @electroniccreative7683

    @electroniccreative7683

    3 жыл бұрын

    You will make 3kw inverter switching egs002 24V bro

  • @panspa88

    @panspa88

    3 жыл бұрын

    A special test is this In various loads the waveform don't change loads like inductive resistor loads etc

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    ok bro. sure

  • @sadeequllah3489

    @sadeequllah3489

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not happening.............max load test

  • @bagongleong8037

    @bagongleong8037

    3 жыл бұрын

    Try with bigger stuff.

  • @pitchou8857
    @pitchou88573 жыл бұрын

    Hello I am in the process of assembling the parts on this pcb model, but I have a problem to know what the number would be? part protection with MCU AVR?

  • @metamud8686

    @metamud8686

    2 жыл бұрын

    EGS002 SPWM .. check video segment 8:36 it's written on the board and it makes sense as that is a well-known pure sine wave inverter 'driver board'

  • @kukukurniawan1785
    @kukukurniawan17853 жыл бұрын

    Oh man you smart, I've subscribed your channel...is there a list of components needed for this , which is easy to find.

  • @valdirrosadonascimento8894
    @valdirrosadonascimento88947 ай бұрын

    What is the specification of this relay so I can purchase it, and if you have the component lists.

  • @BATISTAPROFE
    @BATISTAPROFE3 жыл бұрын

    Me gustaría una tarjeta ensamblada y otra con los componentes, para ensamblar, ¿ cuál sería el costo de cada una ? .

  • @carolyncarpenter9682
    @carolyncarpenter96823 жыл бұрын

    First class layout and execution. Is the sine wave pure?

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes. pure sine

  • @chinedualexander8254
    @chinedualexander8254 Жыл бұрын

    Please how did you do the calculations to arrive at 24 nos MOSFETs

  • @davidkinuthia1052
    @davidkinuthia10523 жыл бұрын

    jambo sir good project i do admire your intelligence but im stuck at the (ct) transformer how many turn primary/secondary please

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pre 2 turn, sec 150 turn

  • @davidkinuthia1052

    @davidkinuthia1052

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhdHung thanks so much God bless you thank you

  • @yuribiktop6595

    @yuribiktop6595

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidkinuthia1052 what is the thickness of the coil used?

  • @MrPounal
    @MrPounal3 жыл бұрын

    sir the parts would have to order separately?

  • @WahyuEkoRomadhon
    @WahyuEkoRomadhon3 жыл бұрын

    Why u used 10ax2 fuse for 5000W inverter. And tiny source cable.?

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    i use car fuse 50A x 2

  • @fortun8diamond
    @fortun8diamond3 жыл бұрын

    I made a 1000W inverter. 24V dc input. It is encased inside a box and has proper sockets. It uses 12 IRF 1404 transistors and an EGS module. However, at 1000W, the output voltage drops 10%. Is that normal?

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's ok, If the transformer is not big enough. The voltage will drop

  • @fortun8diamond

    @fortun8diamond

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhdHung It's a 1400 VA transformer from a UPS.

  • @remakingcenter2854
    @remakingcenter28543 жыл бұрын

    great video

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

  • @sandroroger7295
    @sandroroger72953 жыл бұрын

    Hello Friend! I would like you to kindly indicate me another mosfet with greater power, which I could use in substitution to the IRFB4110. Because I'm setting up a 48V off grid solar system and I intend to set up this project of yours. I thank you for your attention, thank you!

  • @sandroroger7295

    @sandroroger7295

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good morning my friend! I would like to know if you can change the design of this inverter so that it supports 24 Mosfets HY5012W and what the value of the project is. I am Brazilian. I thank you for your attention, thank you!

  • @nhieuhassan4755
    @nhieuhassan47553 жыл бұрын

    Nice project 👌 Keep it up. I also thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us. Please how do I get the P C B if I want to buy it sir?

  • @eliasyoukhana6292

    @eliasyoukhana6292

    3 жыл бұрын

    Go on google and write pcb amd click shopping u will see it

  • @jboy4real
    @jboy4real5 ай бұрын

    4500w/24v is 187.5amps kindly explain how you calculate the number of mosfet to use. Thanks

  • @patelbhumi6097
    @patelbhumi60973 жыл бұрын

    Sir information about ct transformer size, wire gauge and turn plz

  • @minravex2326
    @minravex2326 Жыл бұрын

    please can u give complete list of component with part. Number

  • @adelbertmadredinos6946
    @adelbertmadredinos69463 жыл бұрын

    is this inverter can run window type aircondition?

  • @antonion.p.781
    @antonion.p.7813 жыл бұрын

    como puedo conseguir el plano para replicarlo gracias

  • @stevebailey1682
    @stevebailey16823 жыл бұрын

    Hi...why the Totam pole drivers on each leg of the H-bridge? Doesn't your ASIC have enough drive for these inputs?

  • @samueldavies646

    @samueldavies646

    2 ай бұрын

    He has alot of FETs in paralell gonna need more charge current to switch fast enough

  • @alieskiocak5071
    @alieskiocak50713 жыл бұрын

    Can you give a detailed scheme of 5000 watt usb transformer?

  • @viciriucandreea5835
    @viciriucandreea58353 жыл бұрын

    Ok ok felicitari

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

  • @ricardosilva2620
    @ricardosilva26202 жыл бұрын

    Essa placa está à venda? Onde posso comprar?

  • @andersonfischer9443
    @andersonfischer9443 Жыл бұрын

    hello I would like to know if I can use the mosfet irf b3306 in this project

  • @hubertlipinski1821
    @hubertlipinski18213 жыл бұрын

    You could use igbt transistors?

  • @solaribits
    @solaribits3 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, I want to build this project but the archive you have on mediafire download is corrupt?

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    link ok.

  • @anashag5247
    @anashag52472 жыл бұрын

    nice project, can I ask you, should we add isolated power supply for spwm?

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    2 жыл бұрын

    No need, buck circuit is enough

  • @javiermitchell7073
    @javiermitchell70732 жыл бұрын

    Hi , I like this project, can you publish a list of components? there is a small transformer , but don't know its specs, also missing is th einfo on the buck converter board and the board attached to the connector on the right

  • @ferroperro3639

    @ferroperro3639

    Жыл бұрын

    hope this guy not mention all the components I downloaded his files for another project but there was lac of parts and i don't got any response from him.

  • @Betofraga
    @Betofraga9 ай бұрын

    Para usar ele em 48v o que devo mudar ?

  • @vinodvinees1629
    @vinodvinees16293 жыл бұрын

    Sir kindly make mppt solar inverter circuit -pure sine Wave. And transformer less -which means hybrid..

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    ok bro

  • @shinaajibola205
    @shinaajibola2052 жыл бұрын

    Pls I need a testing circuit board to test egs002 module to know if it workin well

  • @nhanle4403
    @nhanle44033 жыл бұрын

    Cho e hỏi nêú chạy áp vào 12v thì quấn ba 12v, chạy 24v thì quấn ba 24v hay là chỉ cần 1 ba quấn cố định số vòng mà chạy được các mức áp khác nhau. Thông não e với, hơi bối rối. Thank.

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cần các mức điện áp khác nhau cho biến áp nhé, ko cần thay đổi mạch thôi.

  • @dinoventocilla6594
    @dinoventocilla65942 жыл бұрын

    Excelente.. porfavor , quisiera inversor 1000W 12Vcc 220Vca onda pura y de 3000W 12Vcc 220Vca... cuanto costaría esos productos y enviarlos a Lima Perú... gracias

  • @markdearman2367
    @markdearman23673 жыл бұрын

    What current transformer did you use? (CT) Nice job on the design. :)

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought it from the store: D

  • @electrontech2044

    @electrontech2044

    3 жыл бұрын

    Please sir tell me which code what write for small transformer tell what write on Google or AliExpress or store for CT transformer ?

  • @abrahammakoto
    @abrahammakoto3 жыл бұрын

    Good luck friend!

  • @PhdHung

    @PhdHung

    3 жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @manojpppppaa
    @manojpppppaa2 жыл бұрын

    hello friend how are u? i have seen your video and it is so god. i was having problem about c.t. that your using. i try find on internet by using the number it shone in the video. can you help me if you can. please tell ne what is pri and secondary and what wire gauge to use thanks

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