Professional powder coater here. Not a bad idea, and probably will do, in a pinch! However, most powders are polyester based, this means the don't react well to grease (WD40) or any other kind of moisture for that matter, especially when heated. This is why you get all the little swirls and bumps in your finish, this won't last long, and those spots WILL be the first to ablate with not really that much usage and time. When no electrostatic gear is available, your best bet is to mediablast the part, if you have that option and degrease it, otherwise just clean and degrease the part as best you can, and then preheat it in your oven to 150-160°C (300°F-ish) for about 10 to 15 minutes , and then apply the powder evenly, WHILE THE PART IS STILL HOT. The high surface temperature of the part will make the poly in the powder melt and adhere better than any amount of grease or glue ever will. Cure for 10 to 15 minutes at 180-200°C (350-390°F -ish). For application i would suggest some sort of gravity fed spray gun, set for very low pressure. This won't be perfect, but it will help you avoid "patches" and globs of powder, and get a uniform finish. Try spraying from a distance because you will want to avoid sputters and lumps of powder. In short: MOISTURE IS THE ENEMY, HEAT IS YOUR FRIEND AND UNIFORM COATS ARE KEY! Also, times and temperatures may vary to greater or lesser extent depending on the size and mass of your part, size of your oven, type of powder you are using,and so on...Anyway, Hope this helps! Great video,i enjoyed it!

@imsgoalie1

2 жыл бұрын

This is the kind of comment I'd love to see more of in the comments section. No snobbery or hating, just sharing knowledge and a positive take on what he's attempted to do here. I'm considering powder coating my own motorcycle components and your comment here was very helpful to me. Thanks!

@craigroberts757

Жыл бұрын

Spot on Dizzy. I had a customer that did ceramic pots that I powder-coated and used the exact same setup that you described and it worked perfectly. Silicone of any type had to bake out of the substrate before coating. Whenever I did used engine parts they had to be baked or outgassed as I called it to make sure any oils or silicones were gone before coating..

@ChrisVanStory61984

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input.. you covered everything I wanted to know about powder coating without electrostatic

@ivicamilosavljevic4706

Ай бұрын

I know...old theme, I am late... but! Thats THE MAN... if we all are like HE is (This gentleman) sharing his knowledge, without any profit, we could be all progressing worldwide... my respect Sir! Regards from Serbia! (I don't have even an interest in this subject, eventually arrived to me at some point at YT, but Your sharing of info and knowledge attracted my attention, without any obstacles, and income requests. I personally dot have much interest in the matter. You offered Your (probably hardly accumulated knowledge for free), that is hard today to find even at university professor's level. Such attitude (Professors, doing private stuff, parallel with university job, because they are trying to gain more money, and treat students as future competition, so they are hiding their knowledge (not all of them, I agree, because majority of them doesn't even have any practical one, they are repeating to the students same "old" books that they learned 30 or so yrs ago, and they didn't advanced any more ... my respect.

I have never heard of coating using this method, I use to powder coat professionally and the prep work is crucial for quality parts. I'm really surprised it did not come out with fish eyes, out gassing and porosity all over. I think for what it is it turned out darn good especially if you took a bit more care to coat it with the WD40. very cool video man! I enjoyed that.

@pinballrobbie

3 жыл бұрын

@Croxbone Also silicone will do this to powder coating, found out the hard way.

@andrewspence7635

3 жыл бұрын

I powder coat daily also , who the fuck would spray oil on something and powder coat it , I imagine the first shot out of the gun would crack that contaminated powder right off the metal .

@g7mks383

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewspence7635 Low intelligence is indicated by the use of expletives, we have no need to use such language to describe what we want to say.

@starbattles1

3 жыл бұрын

@@g7mks383 Actually that is just the simpleton way to discredit some one with out using facts on the actual subject at hand to do it. Low intelligence? You offered nothing what so ever to the debate. Only a critique of his personality. You = epic fail

@starbattles1

3 жыл бұрын

He has obviously done this before and knows the results. He said it is substantially more durable then just spray painting it. So an inteligent person would deduce that there is obviously a scientific reason for what is going on. Probably a chemical reaction and molecular change occurring in the heat that we're not aware of. Fisheyes are caused by a variety of contaminates. Oils being one of them. What we just saw defy a coating specialists logic. So instead of being ignorant, recognize when something new comes along and develop a desire to want to know HOW and WHY this is even remotely possible. It's called science. I own a 25 year old metal, wood, stone commercial, and residential refinishing company. I see this and immediately want to know the science behind it. That's the difference in a leader and followers who have to be taught, instead of teaching them selves.

Amazing! Extremely useful, especially to powder coat metal tools where protection is more important than looks. Thank you for sharing! I just need a sacrificial toaster oven now.

Don't normally watch these kinds of videos. Short technical attention span. This was clear, informative, interesting and to the point. Thanks.(Good speaking voice too)

You have the perfect narration skills for military training films or the turbo encabulator parody.

@andrew_koala2974

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Many YopTube' ers have zero presentation and need to learn from experienced orators, and presenters. The biggest failures are a poor introduction to the video topic, over excitement and a cadence that is far too fast for the listener to absorb and get a taste of what is being said/presented. A good presentation is like slowly enjoying delicious chocolate, ice-cream, or a glass of fine wine.

For what it's worth, I worked in a factory that did a lot of powder coating on steel and aluminum. The black, blue and red colors all did best. Any of the other colors were more finicky. Especially yellow. This is a very cool DIY method for such "components" I may try it out some time. Thanks!

Very Helpful, Very Entertaining, AND Very well done! Thank you Sir!

This might be the best video I have ever watched! The voice, the DIY aspect and the response (from the PC community) make this a must watch. The comments alone offer hours of "head scratching" entertainment. Thank you for sharing this with the world!!

Loved it! Nice surprise! I'll most definitely try it when the right time comes along, thank you for posting!

@andrew_koala2974

3 жыл бұрын

The item should be sprayed with the WD40 to achieve proper coverage and wiped to remove the excess. That will ensure a better quality overall finish.

@alphazuluz

3 жыл бұрын

Just buy a powder coating gun. They’re $75 from Harbor Freight or Eastwood and both work great. The results will be light years beyond this. Seriously, all you need to powder coat professionally is a cheap gun ($75), and air compressor (you probably have one, a pancake will work), and an oven. Also, probably some high temp masking tape, and acetone. Seriously, that’s it. I used to do this at work with the Harbor Freight Gun. It yields pro results with good powders.

This was great. Thank you for showing that it could be done.

@cdebo822

Жыл бұрын

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lol loved your description of the component good job in keeping it off the radar :)

@dontblameme6328

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure but I think that part was some component of a leftists butt plug applicator. The algorithm will never take down such videos that are so important to silicon valley.

I just happened to see this video,.and talk about timely,.... I have just such an item that can benefit from a bit of coating like this. I`m going to give this a try; I thank you sir, for this tutorial video. Thumbs up, I would say!

this is really pretty cool and offers me some really nice options, thanks man for sharing, very much appreciated!!!!

Love your methods, Good Luck to you and yours.

That moment that you realize you live in a world where people feel like they can only refer to this as a "component" part.

@templebrown7179

3 жыл бұрын

That's strictly for ad revenue. He can say "AR-15 lower receiver" and it's ok on KZread, but his video will be demonetized because of advertiser flight whenever there's KZread controversy.

Always nice to learn new techniques to work with metal

That looks apsolutely great 👍, thank you for your efforts & fab video, its an excellent success.

I toooooo have of this method, thought there was only one method. You mentioned another and I will look up that too. Thank you....WAY COOL

Very neat demonstration, i wouldnt have guessed it would have yielded so positive a result! I have never been happy with powder coating, it has never held up under use.

There will always be detractors for every thing! I think this is amazing and offers everyone the opportunity to powder coat. Thank you sir!

Interesting technique. Thanks for showing this.

2nd application possible. I play with a cheap powder gun and learned that if the 1st coat has thin or missed spots reheat the part (sub gloss temp) apply more powder to to bare area and return into the oven and cook until glossy. I do reconnect the electrostatic leads to help attract the powder to the bare area but the hot metal may allow sticking of the powder. Thank you for sharing your wd40 method.

I learned something today....thanks!

I never seen this kind of powder coating before,it looks promising therefore I will try it.Thanks for the info.

@cdebo822

Жыл бұрын

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I enjoyed the video, thank you so much, Sir.

Excellent information. Good to know how to do something on the fly. Thanks.

Thank you for teaching us this trick

15 years in powder coating and then this.... Awesome 👍

I have always wondered how powder coating is done. Thank you so much.

@cdebo822

Жыл бұрын

Bot

Awesome video, I have a few car parts I'm going to try this on ! Thank You!!

You accidentally learned how to dry green wood in the process

Thanks Mate, very informative.

Who woulda thunk? Learn something every day I guess. Thanks for the video, and special thanks for not ruining the video with obnoxious, distracting, and irritating background "music" that is all too prevalent here on KZread.

My life has changed for the good since watching this video

Thanks for posting this very interesting video. I had no idea that this method of powder coating was possible, and, as you mentioned in the video, while it might not yield perfect results, it´s a better option than a spray can, which would be the only viable alternative for me. I´d also like to mention how much I envy you the freedom to own the item of which this part is a component!

Great tips, Im gonna have to remember this one👍

Really enjoy your videos. I'm really curious about the durability using this method. I hope you'll do a second video about the durability of this method of powder coating.

Very interesting, thanks for the video.

Excellent, thanks for sharing

That looks good to me. Thanks for the tip

I like to use Rustoleum Appliance Epoxy when I need a 'powder coated' finish. I spray it on, allow it to become touch dry, and then bake it in pretty much the same way you baked the powder coat. It is rock hard, very scratch resitant, and is also resistant to all of the usual solvents, and even some really harsh ones like acetone and MEK.

@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire

3 жыл бұрын

I used Rustoleum hammer coat oil based paint for a motorcycle spare gas tank... And after the first fill-up, I discovered that even after an extended cure time including heat, that particular paint of their's is NOT fuel tolerant... So, I ended up stripping it off and powder coating it white instead... :(

Very interesting method. I'd like it.

I've been planning to do the same thing using a vibratory Tumbler. Although I think I would jam some toothpicks into the holes where detents go.

Never seen this method before and I would certainly never do this myself as the result doesn't look great at all, .. But its interesting so thanks for sharing.

A little rough looking but plenty good enough for that flux capacitor component. Hey, it's a tool, not a museum piece.

@stephenwilkinson1254

3 жыл бұрын

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! 😂

@MarcillaSmith

3 жыл бұрын

I had a job when I first graduated where we would use a lot of those components. People where I worked could be real hard cases about the importance of doing proper inventory, for whatever reason

@patrioticbastard5935

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarcillaSmith I remember that... and the paperwork you had to fill out when you returned from the job site with a broken tool... guess we didn't use the tool as gently as intended.

@carlosgibson9607

3 жыл бұрын

With practice.id say you could get it perfect.maybe try some thing else other than WD-40.key the steel.etc..

For DIY on a budget....BRAVO

Well that’s given me a few ideas, brilliant lateral thinking 👍🏻

Thanks for this share !

I was actually quite impressed with the results

I think I talked to you at a gunshow many years back... probably about 15 or more years ago. You are as interesting now as you were then.

Nice job, well good cheap alternative😉👍

Neat. Thanks for sharing.

Interesting!!! Thanks, mate !

Awesome! Many Thanks!!!

Interesting, I learned about a new thing. Cool :)

Proper gharna...love it

Always thought plastic coating was beyond reach but now its well within the average grasp👏👏👏👏 Now all I need is a toaster😭 You got me just on this one Vid, looking forward to a happy relationship🤣🤣🤣

@Awannabestylist

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the Thrift Stores, Salvation Army, garage sales etc. and you'll find one.

Cool trick!

Interesting.. tho I would spray with wd40 then wipe with a wd40 damp rag. Great video and u have a great voice.

Would it be an option to try a second coat specifically concentrating on the spots that were light or missed?

Never considered this method. Maybe I need to give some of my 3M spray adhesive a try.

Cool, thanks👍

This is great, most of us don’t have or have access to professional equipment and is for our own use, if anyone complains about what I did to my metal, they can take it to a professional and pay for it for me.

Cool idea, would you mind doing a short clip on the "shake and bake method" and why that wouldn't have worked. I'm assuming it's just dropping the part into a bag of powder, do you coat part with any thing to get it to stick?

Good info as always. I still prefer a couple coats of krylon for my raw 80%ers but this is very neat. Keep up the posts.

@jaredando6999

3 жыл бұрын

I'd be curious to see a follow up after few weeks of use. In my experience as a paint chemist powder doesn't due well when you put anything between it and the thing its supposed to stick to. Not to mention how the heat from the oven and evaporating solvent could cause gaps between the cured powder and the metal making it prone to de-lamination and flaking. Personally, I think you're better off using the Krylon or just spending the 70 bucks to buy a cheap powder spray gun from harbour freight. That said, neither is a replacement for anodizing cause anodizing is chemically changing the surface the metal, whereas powder or krylon is just sticking stuff to it.

I think the results are decent considering the method. I am thinking of powder coating a few small items and did not want to invest the money for the gun. It seems a reasonable experiment to try. Thanks for sharing. If nothing else lets folks know there is a alternative to try on the cheap.

Great share, thanks.

Well done sir

Nice work! The spots that didn't get the pigment are still likely coated, they just didn't get the coloring to flow into those spots. Going to have to try this.

VERY COOL! I also used to do Powder Coating professionally. I really like the ingenious approach for the job. I wonder, would the WD40 coating have been uniform if it was sprayed on from a distance of about 12 inches? I would also CLEAN the part with MEK instead of a soap based agent. ESPECIALLY on aluminum, soap is caustic and attacks aluminum which can cause outgassing - ALSO - pre-bake the the item to relieve trapped gasses. I would also HANG the part instead of laying it down. AND use a Temperature Probe to verify proper temperature. You do NOT want to get too hot especially with aluminum... It will lose it's temper. GOOD JOB !

Great Video.... I never knew this method existed. But I have to admit, to a reloader, the bucket'o brass was, like having a pole dancer in the background. LOL

Learn something everyday,I'd never heard of this method

I was just thinking of you !! Lighting your coat on fire 🔥 Hahahaha! I friggin love you man! I'm a mere squire to your JEDI Knighthood Sire!

I love the dancing around the word, top notch wordage, hope this gets some adsense for you my dude. Lol

great comments, it's like listening to a 60's radioshow

I always thought a mating surface was a mattress. Thanks for setting me straight.

Good to know. Tks

Awesome!

Good to know, both interesting and entertaining. Toaster Oven was a cool idea to👌 It goes to your waffle iron...right.

WOW!!!! THATS PRETTY COOL STUFF 😀🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

Interesting this is something I can do, just need! Old toaster oven, thank you

@bigredc222

3 жыл бұрын

You can probably pick up a used one at a thrift store for a few bucks.

Interesting. the Result looks terrible, but you never know when this might be the best option you got. Thanks for sharing!

@aterack833

3 жыл бұрын

Peter August automotive springs

@peteraugust5295

3 жыл бұрын

@@aterack833 ?

@foster_9984

3 жыл бұрын

Peter August the guy who replied automotive springs, what he meant to say is the powdercoat is mostly for metal parts on cars that your trying to preserve, most people would think automotive when you mention powdercoat

@peteraugust5295

3 жыл бұрын

@@foster_9984 But Powdercoat is not mostly for car parts. Actually hardly any car parts are powder coated.

@foster_9984

3 жыл бұрын

@@peteraugust5295 OEM auto parts are almost always powder coated, Do you work in the automotive industry? Every tonka truck and race car has powdercoated something because the parts come in bare metal and they are custom fit, they dont just leave it bare metal you have to coat it. What do you possibly know about automotive powdercoat when its part of my job.

I'd suggest running dowels through the pin holes to avoid refitting.

AWESOME

I use a similar method on ribs, but I use Zattaraine’s crab boil red oil & Rocket Fire rub.

Try spraying it with WD40 and then blowing off the excess WD40 with canned air.

Interesting thanks

Never knew you could use WD40 with power coating. Intereting. I'm sure you know you could do a second coat to improve coverage if you wanted to.

Good in a pinch. Thanks

Some tips for your next at home DIY. - The powder was put on way too thick. That's why your finish is so bad. Get yourself a powder blower for a few bucks. Even a powder brush or hand squeeze for things like finger printing would work. You just need enough powder to cover it. - Might want to try and heat it up to 410 degrees and "hot shot" it. Hang it and cover it quickly then put it back in the oven. Though with your example here a stand it sits on with the plug would've worked. The powder starts to cook on contact and sticks. Shouldn't need to use wd40 even without grounding/positive charge. If kept at temp and not allowed to go down below about 330 you can pull it out and cover any spots you missed and put back in for a final cook. If you're careful there most likely won't be any orange peel. Try it first with a piece of scrap from the yard of the same-ish material. - At home anodize isn't difficult and most of the stuff can be reused. Alternate to powder coating for aluminum.

@Incab

3 жыл бұрын

@Timmy75 Who doesn't have access to a scrap yard?

Good information sir

Picked up a powder coater at Harbor Freight works very very well and pretty inexpensive but I'm not too big on Powder Coating in the end.

Thank you,

A powder coating gun is like 40 bucks at harbor freight and it works great. I’ve done an entire Dirtbike with it and it’s still going strong

For an easy way to powder coat bullets I mix equal amount of powder with acetone using a lee powder scoop. I shake in a container, let dry on card board, and bake.

Interesting idea. Thanks for the video. Wonder if the $70 powder coat gun at harbor freight would do good.

Thank You 👍✅

Oil is the one thing you do not want on a surface intended to be powder-coated. Either something is up with the WD-40 solution that does not impede the adherence of the powder, or the powder is just like a candy shell over the WD-40 and might slip off if it were not interlocked with the edges and other 90 degree pieces. Doing this on a flat sheet of aluminum should give us the answer as to if it is a real powder coating, or just an over-layer ready to fail and come off.

@boydbirchler100

3 жыл бұрын

I had a business for 34 years removing coatings from paint rejected parts. I had a few customers which requested I put their parts in a WD40 bath after removing the powder. I did so telling them it would cause trouble with adhesion if they did so and their paint preclean got weak. Every one who request WD40 ended up regretting it! Powder does not adhere to oily surfaces,,,,WD40 makes surfaces oily!

'The wooden plug turns my gun chamber into a model dachshund'.

Nice tek!