I just gotta tell you. I've been watching your videos for about a month now and you are the most informative ammo reloader/caster that I've ever seen. You have given me a ton of helpful advice and if it wasn't for you, I'd probably have messed up so many times. Thank you for your help and I'm grateful for you.

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

William Wilson - That's the whole idea of the Hot Lead Zone - KZread is full of good stuff, but the HLZ is to present stuff that is new or different or in a way or perspective that broadens the picture. And our shooting sports is so comprehensive that all this is allowed...the material we deal with is inexhaustible. I've got a video coming up that you might find very interesting...Good reloadin' to ya, William..!! FC

@floutdoorstv7914

6 жыл бұрын

Hey bud im having no luck with the harbor freight red coat. It doesn't stick evenly no matter how I try. Would you suggest trying east coast powders? Maybe I got a lemon?

I know this is an old video but it helped me more than any other I have watched.thanks again and God bless.

@spikewsspe

3 жыл бұрын

It's not old if you never saw it before.

Finally giving powder coating a shot. Wish me luck!

Thanks for the video. i looked it up while i was standing in the harbor freight paint isle. I think im still going to go with smoke's powder, but I learned a lot from this video.

Thanks for the great video. Was a lot of info I needed. Thank you !!!

Awesome info FC45LC I just did harbor freight white and got the same marble look on my 9mm cast bullets 1 coating and it looks good and was I wondering about the coating too and your videos are vary helpful thank you

I’ve mixed colors, Red and White to make pink and although it’s not perfect my wife loves the bullets! 😎

I continue to learn from you, thanks. Instead of second coat of white I am try black on top of the white, and see what happens.

Good video as always.

hey thanks for doing this videos very informative and educational

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Cumberledge -- When your hand tumbling doesn't coat 'em - just whip out your vibratin' tumbler..!! Happy New Year, FC

I mix about 1/3 black and 2/3 white. Makes a really nice looking antique looking gray colored bullet.

@kevinwixson4405

2 жыл бұрын

@Puertorriqueño Redneck Have heard anything about that. I just know that it's not a very good powder for coating bullets because it doesn't stay on very well!!

Thanks... useful as usual

I tried this with my tumbler unsuccessfully with throwing bullets and powder from the tumbler. Good thing I was working outside. An alternative wet method that worked well was in a cylindrical container with a handful of bullets, 1/2 teaspoon of Harbor Freight powder and 2 CCs of acetone then shake until coated. The acetone dries quickly then bake as you normally do. This did good with the black and have not tried the white yet.

I watched another channel where the guy was powder coating - he laid the bullets flat in a tray to bake and then when they came out, he dropped them into a bucket of water. It worked great - none stuck together.... after they dried, he lubed them a little and ran them up through a Lee sizer die.

Thanks LC for the video. You gave it a good test. I would still buy the white because leading is what we're looking for to lower your leading and any coating at all will help with that. If one is after good looking bullets then they can use the red. The black I'm told works well, but people say that color has abrasive in it and that's bad, don't know if that's true or not ! Thanks again 😃

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+Nick J -- As for the black, I'm just going to avoid that since the red and yellow do all I need. The white is OK for coating as you say, and the 44 bullets that I PC with white sure did shoot well...Have a great day, FC

I used the white coating and left them tumbling 90 minutes and got that light coating. I baked them @ 400 degrees. I loaded them into the brass and will head to range for 100 yard test. .45 LC in Rossi Rifle , 252 & 255 grain Bullets.

I coated several hundred 9mm (Lee 120 gr TC) With the Harbor Freight white and got this exact same result. Even though they look thinly coated I experienced no leading at just under 1,000 FPS. Your mileage may vary.

Mr cookie, ive loaded my white powder by the pound 45acp lswc boolits. They sized perfect and tomorrow ill be testing these as well as my hitech coated boolits from MB . Ill be testing the red HF PC next week. My goal as well as yours is a one coat powder,color doesnt matter to me. i just dont want to use lube any more. Powder by the pound sledge hammer test passed ,no flaking or chipping. I wont buy more but i will use this pound up if it shoots well . Thanks for all your guidence on powder coating and reloading. Awesome !

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

Edad Martin - The 45 acp and PC or Hi-Tek bullets are matched together very well...Powder by the Pound, Prizmatic and Eastwood are our first line PC companies. Please let me know how your Hi-Tek compares with PC...as getting good data from viewers will expand our body of knowledge... Have a great Memorial Day, FC

Hey Cookie! I have found that better quality powder yields a much better coating and one coat suffices. Have used the Harbor Freight brand and though it is less expensive for just a few more dollars it costs for a better quality powder the results are well worth it.

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+bippie23456 -- Wanted to go with the common HF first, since it is so readily available to everyone with no hassle availability. But your comments are well taken - better powders give better results... Have a great day, FC

Can you use a rotary tumbler for this?

Steve- Does relative humidity have an impact on the dry adhesion amount?

i powder coated some 9mm with the harbor freight black they turned out great i did the same thing you did fortunecookie thanks for the great tip the9mm are for acp not revolver just saying.

I bought my lead 380 acp most likely pre coated I tried shaking in plastic tub process but it didn't stick. Stand them up in a row when you bake them less post work

Hey FortuneCookie45LC, sorry for the potentionally dumb question, but I shoot a lot of 45-70 thru my Trapdoor & Rolling block. I cast my own bullets (20 to 1 Ratio, tin & lead), then I run them thru my Lubrisizer using SPG lube. Do you recommend trying to powder coat some 45-70 bullets like mine? Is it feasible? Or is it worth it to try? I was watching your video and it made me think about my Black Powder rifles. Of course you know, shooting black powder rifles causing a lot of fouling inside the barrel, so I thought "Powder Coating" might decrease some of the fouling. My other thought was, if you powder coat black powder bullets can you still lube them? Or, is there no more need to lube them? Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks

Just getting into casting, so do you still have to lube the bullets as usual if you powder coat them like this?

Thanks FC never done this before. Saw your other video after posting my first comment. Did you try Elvis Ammos way yet curious about that too? Wondering if the preheating and static from plastic bowl is what help powder stick. Thanks again!

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

Stephen Ranti - I started out by doing the hand tumble without any bullet heating - it worked very well - the HF Red powder stuck nicely. But after about 1500 bullets were powder coated, I ran another batch and the powder would not stick to the bullets...nothing changed in the operations. Baking the bullets resulted in bad PC. I did try heating the bullets, but I must have heated a bit too much - but the powder still would not stick. Since going to the vibratory tumbler, there have been no fails with the HF Red and HF Yellow - the White resulted in a marble look that many would not like. I'm going to give the Elvis system a try with the white, but have been doing other video projects in the meantime. I have no need to try other systems with the Red and Yellow since why mess with success. The vibe tumbler just runs for 15 minutes as the previous batch is baking in the oven for the 20 min. (that can actually be shortened to 12-15 from what I hear, but 20 min is the standard - why change that?). There is a flow to all this that can be managed very well with the vibe tumble or the Elvis method. Once you get your method of choice down, you are in business... We'll all get to the same destination OK. Good shootin' to ya, FC

Hey bud im having no luck with the harbor freight red coat. It doesn't stick evenly no matter how I try. Would you suggest trying east coast powders? Maybe I got a lemon?

makes me wonder if there is any good white powder coats out there. so i can have a good assortment of red white n blue bullets for my .38 at the range.

I use that same oven, I didn't trust the thermostate, drilled a small hole on side of oven, put a manual thermometer in, 375 was actually 400

Could you powder say a softer lead 20 to 1 or 30 to 1 and run it 1800 to 2000 fps with no leading?

What tumbler do you use?

yes!

Thanks for the shot out, maybe they need to change the name from white to marble !!

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

Nick J - No doubt the white works well with the electrostatic...but we really want PC to be done without all the extra work and effort...because if much extra cost and time is required, we have the 45/45/10 lube system that can lube 1000 bullets in no more than 12-15 minutes of total time expended. Best to ya, FC - and thank you for all your great comments...

Would a rotary tumbler work ?

Do you have a tumbler bowl dedicated to powder coating?

I think ive found the best way to powdercoated bullets its simple mix with acetone or lacquer thinner and use a cheap air brush ..no mess and a thin coating back once dry..😊

Did you validate the oven is truly running at 400?

How long do you leave it in the tumbling ?

Curious on your opinion of what size die to size cast bullets for 45 ACP. I have a Lee mold and a MP mold coming. Thanks in advance! Grandpa always said keep your powder dry!

What is the Product number and Name of that Harbor Freight coating Powder may I ask thanks

Please Help I am Trying to powder coat lead bullets using the Harbor Freight Black . I even put some air soft BB's in the container like so many recommend. But The Powder Coat is Not Sticking on to the Bullets barely in the Container I can't get them to get covered in the paint . Please Help what could I possibly be doing Wrong ???

This has probably been covered by you before but do you size your Cast Boolits prior to coating? Do you have to adjust the expansion on the case mouth to accommodate the powder coating?

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

Stephen Ranti - If you size your bullets prior to PC, it will be difficult to avoid getting oil contamination on the bullets - best to PC first anyway and then size them if necessary. You would then seat the bullets as you would seat any cast bullet - by first flaring the case mouth to allow the bullet to enter (same for sized or unsized bullets). Good reloadin' to ya, FC

as a FYI the yellow powder coat give the same effect. i use a ESPC gun. and i found my fav color combo is half red half yellow for a burnt orange look.

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+N Olesen -- That sounds like a real good mix. Mixing half white with half red results in blotchy copper color. The red mixes well, the white does not. And white doesn't do anywhere as good a job as red alone - don't know if you have tried the white or not... Best Regards, FC

@nolesen5699

8 жыл бұрын

White dose OK but better with espc. I like mixing the colors my fave is still the burnt orange of yellow red mix. But again espc. I just did my first batch of zombie brain green mix of all the old leftover powders I had in a bag. Did a shake and bake. And baked them all in one big pile. Worked great . time saver

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+N Olesen -- I've got to try that yellow red mix - sounds like it mixes well - but first, I'm going to have to buy more of the yellow as after my experience with the white, I only bought one pound of the yellow...Best Regards to ya, FC

The slug guru!😂👍👍👍👍👍

Thank you FC45LC for another great video. I am new to your channel and just finished my 2nd casting session last night and ended up with a little over 500 38spls boolits after QC (about 30 bad ones for the remelt pile). I am using 2 cavity Lee molds for 44mag,9mm and 38 spl and the Lee Pro 4-20 pot. The time, effort and knowledge you have put into your videos has been a GREAT help to me and I thank you for that. Including everything from range etiquette of picking up lead, to making ingots, fluxing, mold care, casting, sizing, lubing, reloading, and the joy of doing each step as you go along. And now my question , have you heard or read any info on the powder coating lapping or wearing out your barrel faster than shooting straight lubed lead boolits?

Did you compair the single to double coat? I just got some White from HF, never done any powder coating. Coating for Subsonic 300 AAC. Thank you

yea i just got the white harbor frieght coating, and yea 2 or 3 coats.

So it's not necessary to ground all the bullets and then spray the powder which is positively charged?

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

cal30m1 - Thanks for your great question - you are refering to the manner that commercial powder coating is done...the electrostatic spray method. A lot of powder coaters do that and there are kits available even through outlets such Harbor Freight for low cost... However, I have not used that method as of yet...it may be the very best for powder coating. The other techniques are the hand tumbling, vibratory tumbling, heat tumbling and wet mix techniques. Each bullet cast powder coater is going to have to do his or her homework and determine which system they prefer. Best to ya, FC

Yeah I suspect the power is the problem. Try Powder by the Pound, or Eastwood. I've seen real good results with those brands in white, as the powder has a better consistency and gives a better coat.

First run using powder by the pound white shake n bake method first coat barely covered ,by the third coat, it looked like where HF red first coat usually is. Im going to try the tumbler,maybe this white will react better tumbled.

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

Edad Martin - When I first saw videos on PC, and some were doing 2 and 3 coats, I said "No way". I want 1 coat only and HF White will not give me that. The HF Red and Yellow do so it's a go on HF Red and Yellow. Eastwood powders give a lot more colors that work well - they are a bit more expensive than HF, but worth the difference. The Eastwood White though is a loser...something about the white...You asked about why I'm getting into PC (that comment has disappeared - it was put into the review file and I accepted it, but now it's not appearing in this comment section) - I'm still doing the older lube methods, but the PC method is valid and deserves to be tested out for it's usefulness and effectiveness for us...turns out that PC is all that. PC should not be ignored. It's really not hard to do and the production vs time vs effort is OK. Best to ya, FC

I have the same problem with the PC that I use.

Will the powder coat effect the lead if reused and remelted in range scrap, or just be burned off during melt ?

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+JNWELTER1 -- Great question. What happens is the lead melts and the PC just floats on the surface to be skimmed off. The stuff doesn't burn off or melt or anything like that - pretty tough stuff that PC. It skims off like slag. No smoke there either. Happy Holidays, FC

Nice experiment....according to the customer reviews of the HF "yellow" powder the color comes out orange.....now that would be great for Halloween!

@noomeron

8 жыл бұрын

Or a great color for pumpkin spice ammo.

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+gman77gas -- Gah, Gary. Just as with JunkfoodZombie above, who is jumping to July 4th, now you are already jumping into October... The year needs to be enjoyed at a walking pace, not Speedy Gonzales - thank you!! ;) :) ;) FC

after painting do you calibrate the bullet? or do you calibrate before painting?

@dolphincliffs8864

3 жыл бұрын

Size the bullet after they are powder coated.

I've watched a couple videos of your powder coating of bullets and I'm not sure why you're doing it? What are the advantages of powder coated bullets over plain cast lead? Sure, they look nice but, why go through all the trouble if it doesn't enhance performance? Or does it?

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+cheech101st -- Thanks for your comment - you are where I was about 6 months ago. I've been an avid shooter, reloader / bullet caster for over 40 years (Gah - that time went by fast - wouldn't mind doing it all again if I had the chance). And for all of that time, hard cast bullets lubed with sizer lubricator lubes or tumble lubes was the way to go. I used a lot of commercial Moly coated lead bullets back in my IPSC and steel shooting days when the time to cast was shifted over to reloading and shooting more. Powder coating is a relatively new happening - last 10 years or probably less. I didn't want any part of it for the reasons you suggested - If I had to oven bake 'em, I didn't want to do it. But since going on KZread 3 years ago, I've heard so many shooters doing PC. Still didn't want to try it with the thinking that if PC was so good, the factories would be PCing their bullets and PC would be in all the rags and TV shows (they are not). Tried to think of every reason to not even try it since my 45/45/10 was so good and reliable - why bother? But four things caused me to finally give it a try: 1) GunFun ZS is an avid powder coater and he is very firearms knowledged lawyer (they don't mess around) 2) Andy Lee (grandson of Richard), head of the Casting Dept at Lee Precision, powder coats his bullets cast from custom and cataloged Lee molds - he can sure do the 45/45/10 - they have enough alox over there 3) it really isn't very expensive to get into it with $20 WalMart toaster oven and HF Powder 4) a lot of KZread viewers are asking about it. My conclusions are that PC bullets shoot as well as cast bullets and can be used in any cast bullet application. Performance is enhanced that 1) bullet hardness has been de-emphasized 2) clean shooting has been enhanced 3) clean reloading has been enhanced 4) clean ammo handling and lead exposure prevention has been enhanced. I'm doing a lot of PC now to really give it a good and fair try. If the new TV star 22Plinkster intros PC bullets to the airwaves in one of his trick shots on Impossible Shots as he splits a playing card while standing on his head blindfolded - PC will have arrived.... Best Regards to ya... FC

old mad irishman -you are an excellent teacher cookie what did you do before your utube stardom ?

Is the idea of using the powder coat powder so that you don't need to lube the bullets? Also, do you 'size them after or before the powder coat?

@jlburke33

3 жыл бұрын

I have the same question, do you size then coat or coat then size? This channel is awesome, thanks for what you do!

I didn't know you could get the powder coat at Harbor Freight and that the process was so easy. I'll be giving this a try. Do you re-size before or after coating?

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+TRprepper -- Say for example, your 45 ACP barrel is groove diameter .451". And your Lee TL 45 mold drops bullets at .4525" or even .453". Some would size 'em to .452" and then load 'em. But Lee's design of TL several small tumble grooves has less bearing surface so no sizing is needed. Just load 'em. Some would jump up and say that all cast bullets should be sized. But they fail to consider that the best sizer for our bullets is the gun they are going to be shot in. Our guns are actually sizing dies with the powder charge providing the sizing impetus. So the answer to your question is that I neither size them before nor after PC. How's that for an unexpected answer? Of course, there is a limit - If our cast bullets were .455" they would not even chamber. But Lee doesn't make their TL molds to drop bullets that big. Best to ya, Happy Holidays FC

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+TRprepper -- We've been led into the thinking about routinely sizing cast bullets from the days when molds casted bullets huge so all the guns being made in that caliber would be accommodated - then casters got the appropriate size dies and sized away. Since the 1960s, guns have been pretty uniform, and Lee started the move to make molds cast practically at the right diameter right out of the mold. If this situation exists for you where the as cast bullets are within .001-.002 from what you want, no sizing needed. For example, if your 9mm auto pistol barrel is .3555" groove diameter, you want bullets .356". If your mold is dropping at .357-.358" you can load the bullets as cast. If your bullets are .359 for example, then you would size them to .356" Not having to size saves you a tremendous amount of time - just lube 'em and shoot 'em. The powder coating is much easier than most think...But the time used is best recovered if batches of 250-300 (or more) can be done at the same time. Good powder coatin' to ya... FC

@TRprepper

8 жыл бұрын

Yep I didn't resize my cast bullets for years, but been doing it lately, I agree it's not a have to do thing.

The reason the white is transparent is it has less pigment in it but the material thickness will be the same as any other color just not as pretty but will work just the same. only reason i know is i'm a painter and almost all white no mater the paint or powder does not hide as well but the material thickness you need will be there if that's all you have is white. Thanks for all videos you make

@FortuneCookie45LC

6 жыл бұрын

William Pollock - And great thanks to you for providing that very important information... Best to ya, FC Steve

Do you have a dedicated tumbler for powder coating? I guess what i am getting at how hard is it to get all the pc out to go back to tumbling brass? Thanks.

@goldwingnut1954

8 жыл бұрын

I think he is still using stainless steel pins (WET) tumbling exclusively for his brass. Last I knew, anyhow. I use them too, but I don't have the same tumbler. I use a Thumbler's Tumbler, and I think Cookie's is a Frankford Arsenal if I recall correctly. But I see no reason you couldn't use a vibratory tumbler for both processes, cleanup notwithstanding.

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+commonsensehomestead -- Since I'm wet tumbling now with the Frankford Arsenal wet tumbler, my old vibratory tumblers are free for other uses. The Lyman Turbo Tumbler works very well for powder coating. It is not hard to clean the tumbler out at all - takes only a minute with a dry towelette to clean the tumbler completely. It's on the latest video on Harbor Freight Yellow. goldwingnut1954 is absolutely on the beam - easy clean to change the vibrating tumbler to do anything you want...only I will not longer do empty brass cleaning / polishing with the dry tumblers any longer - the advantages of wet tumbling are too great to not go that way....Have a great day, FC

FC45, have you tried your hardness gauge before and then after baking your bullets? The question is, does the baking process harden or soften the bullets by any noticeable amount?

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+SomeGuyInSandy -- 400 degrees and then quenching will indeed harden the bullets. But only a couple of BHN is reliable. Requires some antimony be present in the alloy though - pure lead will not harden. I haven't done my thumbnail test on the PC bullets because hardness becomes insignificant once PC is on the bullets - within reason of course. Some are saying that we can shoot pure lead bullets with PC with good performance, but I'm not about to go that far (besides pure lead is too valuable to muzzleloaders and cap and ball shooters or shotgun slug shooters to be used for our pistol shooting when range scrap is available). Best Regards to ya, FC

@rsrocket1

8 жыл бұрын

+SomeGuyInSandy Baking the bullets anneals them which will negate any hardness gained by water dropping. But the PC has a surface harness of 20-24 BHN (H to 2H pencil hardness as noted on Sherwin Williams powders). The +++ for PC is no lube (no lube smoke), and no leading but fit is still the most important aspect of using cast bullets.

FC45LC - Have a question, I have some purchased 45 cal. lead bullets with the lube band already on the bullets. I was thinking of powder coating them, don't like the lube and then resizing the bullet. Do I need to remove the lube from the bullet first or can I just powder coat the bullet as it is with the bullet lube coat on it.

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

-- Bob Hartman - With the popularity of PC today, you can order bullets from your favorite commercial bullet casters without the lube for ready powder coating. No, your bullets with the lube in the grooves will need to have the lube removed completely to powder coat well. That is going to be a mess - my recommendation to you is to shoot those bullets of yours as they are - they are fine to shoot. And if you like the bullets and want to PC them, then order the bullets without the lube... Best Regards, lFC

@bobhartman2571

8 жыл бұрын

FortuneCookie45LC Thank you, appreciate your advice.

Try half white and half black. You'll find it creates a nice thin grey coating and the even and uniformed

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+Tonsofgunsoffun -- Actually, I was thinking 1/2 white and 1/2 yellow to get a light yellow...gray might be fun... Thanks for the suggestion... We shall see - I'm actually happy with the white - my new video will go more into that.... Best to ya, FC

What if you added some Airsoft bullets or Styrofoam chunks to the tumbler?

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

Jeff Henderson - The use of Airsoft BBs is commonly done in hand tumbling tub systems in an attempt to transfer static electrical charges to the bullets to effect powder sticking onto the bullets crucial to successful powder coating But the vibratory tumbler as in the video gets that static charge from the actual plastic of the tumbler bowl. As such, successful powder sticking has been achieved with uniform reliability and nothing else need be added. Added BBs, etc would only result in additional separation requirements and styrofoam may reduce itself making a bit of a mess of the powder - again totally unnecessary. If I were to get failure of powder sticking (do not proceed to oven if powder is not sticking - multiple coats will not lead to success either), I would try the Elvis Ammo 4 /140 system to get the powder to stick. Different powders stick better than others - Harbor Freight Red and Yellow are good - white less so and black is to be avoided (abrasives reported). Good PC to ya..!! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays..!! FC

First red bullets, now white. Better get yourself some blue powder coat next, so you can have patriotic ammo displays! :-D

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+JunkfoodZombie -- Getting ready for the Fourth of July early, are ya?? I'm telling everyone to slow down and savor the new year and you have us half way through already - like light speed. I saw some blue bullets from Bruce last weekend - they were a higher quality powder and very nice. Best to ya, FC

Hello FortuneCookie45LC..have you tried doing any copper plating with your lead?.

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+craneoperator4 -- No, and copper plating takes a whole series of chemicals we don't want to mess with...If I want plated bullets, I'll just pay a call to Mr.Rainier or Mr. Berry... Best of the Holidays to ya, FC

so if I have a 38special that has .356 cylinders and I have the Lee tl 158gr bullets that drop at 357-358 and add powder coat that brings them to .358-.360 is that to big or if they chamber there good?

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

MrBoilermaker28 - According to Lee, that is fine to do. But the instructions are very nebulous - What you describe fits my own S&W M27 perfectly - the cylinder throats are .356 and my cast bullets are .358" By the time I powder coat them, they will be miking at .3595 to .360" I have confidence that the loaded rounds will chamber if loaded as is. But I bought that Lee .358 sizer kit for a reason - I'm going to size the PC bullets back to .358". Sure, the gun will size the bullets for us when we fire the rounds. But there is nothing wrong with starting out with a uniform bullet diameter. If the variance were .003" or less, no size. But if more, then size the bullets. Since you are dealing with the same .004" variance that I am, we will be happier sizing our bullets. I am in favor of happy. Best to ya, FC

@MrBoilermaker28

7 жыл бұрын

+FortuneCookie45LC I guess I'll have to do the 45 45 10 lube till I get a sizer I got the Lee 125gr tl 356 maybe that'll come to 358 once powder coated

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

MrBoilermaker28 - You've already hit on a better solution - those .357 - .358s are perfect just as they are for the 45/45/10 - I should have thought of that..!! Best to ya, FC

I didn’t know bullwinkle was into reloading

Like your videos. But I would think black more visible than white

Damn, my man looking down his barrel to see if it's loaded over here

So this really works or no? You don't have to seperate them?

@FortuneCookie45LC

6 жыл бұрын

Zoes Dada - You can indeed basket cure loose 4 deep stacked coated bullets. And separating them is as easy as finger rolling on a clean cement floor, to rolling the still warm bullets on a metal pan to simply water quenching the bullets right out of the oven into a plastic bucket with the water and swirling them. There are many videos that show the process - works well and reliable. Best to ya, FC Steve

Is an Acetone bath necessary pre-coat?

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+USRA VET -- Great question -- purpose of the acetone was to degrease the bullets...purpose of the acetone bath was if there was a lot of lube that had to be removed - removing bullet lubes is nasty business - (If you don't get all the wax or lube off = PC fail - then you have to dispose of the acetone and that requires hazard depot) - I recommend shooting those bullets as they were either bought that way or someone went to the trouble and work to size and lube 'em. Best for powder coating are bullets that we cast and dried (if the bullets were quenched in clean water - no oils), and then stored in new or oil free jugs - handle with latex gloves only. Then we powder coat them (15 min. vibratory tumble coating is a no frustration way to get the powder on the bullets ready for oven baking at 400 degrees for 20 min) without any oil having gotten close to 'em. No acetone wipe or bath needed - this should be celebrated. Size the bullets after PC if needed. FortuneCookie Policy = Powder coating is no lube reloading. (We are not talking about lubricating our press as our good friend jiujitsu2000 recommends.) If there is any lube on the bullets to require degreasing, the FC Policy is violated. I recommend that the policy be the way to go for best satisfaction. Have a great day, FC

@q-shine671

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info,simplicity is preferred.

hello fc 45lc ,maybe een transparant powder coat works even better.

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+peteralexben - There have been casters that PC that prefer the clear coat, as they want the PC, but also the natural bullet appearance. Haven't seen any videos on that though. And I'm not through reporting on the HF stuff yet... Happy Holidays to ya - always good to hear from peteralexben.... FC

Kinda cool, they look like stone bullets.

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+Jeff Thomas -- Interesting way to look at it, but now that you say it that way - Marble bullets, ahoy!! Best to ya, FC

The white is still coating the bullet just fine, it is just sort of semi transparent. Much of the coating is clear due to the nature of finely ground white plastic. White plastic dye is not a strong color. It is doing the same job though, just keeping the lead off of the barrel it does just fine, it just isn't sexy that's all.

Easier to use a plastic bucket and shake it to create static. Then bake at 400F for about 10 minutes.

Do you size the bullets after/before coating?

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+James Ananopulos -- Neither. Sizing is not needed unless the bullets are too large. Going all the way back to black powder guns - there was great variation in the chamber throats of revolvers and gun barrels - so bullet molds were made to cast bullets big enough to acommodate everything out there - then each shooter could size the bullets to what they needed. It was that way all the way to the 1950s when guns were much more standardized. Richard Lee designed tumble lube bullets that 1) dropped close enough to standard dimensions that sizing would not be needed 2) the narrow driving bands between his TL grooves reduced bearing surface to allow slightly bigger bullets to shoot just fine in guns 3) it had been discovered that the former designed held too much lube - bullets were being overlubricated 4) the advent of Alox as a superior lubrication material for bullets came along allowing tumble lubing of bullets en masse instead of the old one at a time sizer lubricator. But if you ask many casters today - they still think that you have to cast them, then size them lube them, before you can load them to shoot them. The need to size is still being viewed as a must do step and automatically in the considerations. That is one mold that should be broken.... Best to ya, Happy Holidays... FC

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+James Ananopulos -- I size 'em as needed, if needed, sizing after PC is the way to go. Only if the bullets are really huge would I size 'em before PC... Best to ya, FC

fc45 have you tried getting creative yet? my wife is a Detroit Tigers fan, so I mix the red and yellow to make orange bullets!!!

@FortuneCookie45LC

7 жыл бұрын

rustybayonet.com - Getting creative with powder coating is hard to resist...my next projects are to use powders from Eastwood to see if paying a bit more for powder gives us better results...but there are so many video projects in my cue to run... Best to ya, FC

why do people "powder coat" their lead ????

I really don't like the look of white, since it looks like oxidized lead. I just feel dirty looking at them. I like rolling my ammunition in my hands to feel their smoothness at times, kind of like a stress reliever. Good information though.

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+Dave Smith - Having done the red, yellow and white - the red and yellow work very well - I really don't think I'll ever use the white again... Best Regards, FC

Even with that coat being fairly light looking and mottled, they still have a fairly uniform translucent coat over the whole bullet with the clear coat that is in the powder. The pigment is just not all that great. I bet they shoot fine! The light coat might be advantagious!

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+mytmousemalibu -- Who knows, the yellow might be better than the red as the red really looks good, but tends to be thicker and uneven - could explain the accuracy being obtained from the red...we'll do a comparison test at some point between the thicker coatings vs the thinner red vs yellow...if that is the case, then the move to higher quality powders such as you have used on your higher quality castings would be very much enabled. Best Regards to ya, FC

@mytmousemalibu

8 жыл бұрын

FortuneCookie45LC I will be anxiously waiting to see what you can cook up and how it impacts accuracy! Should be a good test. If you decide to give a higher quality powder a try, Prismatic Powders is a winner, so, so many colors to pick from, its hard to decide! If you sign up for their e-mails, they will notify of the occasional sale. Some of the plain base color powders are really reasonable. I do actually use Prismatic's powder on actual projects besides bullets and their powders look amazing. I have no "horse in the race" by promoting them, just satisfaction. I know to many a powder coat'er, really pretty bullets are what they want. I like pretty bullets myself but I value accuracy more. I would be curious to see the results of very sloppily coated bullets VS the best electrostatic sprayed ones. I'm sure there is a slight advantage to ES coat for smoothness & uniformity but probably negligible over a good tumble coat. It has been proven time & time again a lot of accuracy is lost or gained in the concentricity of bullet bases. I had seen a spreadsheet of grouping for bullet defects that were put in the bullets for testing like scalloping away one side of the nose, smashing them, etc, all manner of things done to see what the influence was on accuracy and by a large margin, the single biggest effect on accuracy was the bullet base. I know a few guys that do "cast match" bullets and go as far as lathe truing the bases and lapping the gas checks flat. Lot of extra effort but it makes a difference. The Hornady GC's are notorious for having a "pringles wave" like the potato chip, defect from the stamping process. The best thing be can do is strive for good bases out of our molds, clean, crisp sharp edged bases and no craters. I need to go sit at the press and load for USPSA this weekend, best if I cull out any bad bases while i'm at it!

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+mytmousemalibu -- There have been past studies done whereby cast bullets with defects were shot against cast bullets that were perfect. The difference in accuracy was most pronounced when the defects were in or on the base driving band - group sizes were double that of perfect bullets. If the shooting is in the 12-15 yard range, the differences are not that great so that all the work of culling out the tiniest imperfections is not warranted. The white PC 44s shot well through my 1894 Marlin, but not any better than the 45/45/10 bullets...Best to ya, FC

hey those bullets are supposed to be light red not pink

@FortuneCookie45LC

5 жыл бұрын

Gta 500 - I have concluded that the white powder coats really have little use for bullet casters. Have a great day, Steve

paper would work a lot better

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+Amadeus Rocks - Paper patching is like whistling me back to Tombstone Territory...plus takes molds that drop bullets at bore diameter so we can patch 'em to groove diameter - can be done, but not easily accomplished. I toyed with the idea of paper patching, but now with PC, no need - we are patching with twenty first century powder coating... Best Regards, FC

FortuneCookie45LC , Just want to say Thank you ! ENJOY Videos they are always full of GREAT informations . THANK YOU keep them Coming need Data more Input LOL as Johnny 5 would say .

are you Bernie sanders. lol.

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Cumberledge -- No, although I like and support many of Bernie's stands on issues, I am not Bernie Sanders... ;) :) ;) - he's on the old side. Not the Light Side or the Dark Side, but the Old Side....

@junkerjunk

8 жыл бұрын

+FortuneCookie45LC You support many of Bernie's stands?!?!?! Next video, please....

They look Like stones

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+Trevis Sweet -- I like to compare the look with the marble of counter tops... Best Regards, FC

@trevissweet5342

8 жыл бұрын

+FortuneCookie45LC I've been into powder coating as a hobby for awhile and one thing I enjoy doing is mixing colors they don't mix completely but instead they mix a little and also add speckles of both colors

@FortuneCookie45LC

8 жыл бұрын

+Trevis Sweet -- Sounds like fun, but there are many out there that would question what purpose for such as the idea is to better shoot bullets downrange, not win a PC contest at the State Fair... Best to ya, FC

srry your voice is similar. lol

The white isn't my favorite

Your doing way to many at once,

What a God-awful mess! None of it is worth the effort!

Don’t use this advice to Powdercoat, you STATIC ELECTRICITY! Shake it in a plastic chemicals bucket from Walmart. The bullets sliding across the plastic creates static, not bouncing like in the timber. I will make a BETTER POWDERCOATING video on my channel that’s much easier with better results.

@AmmoshortageNP

4 ай бұрын

God I hate autocorrect.

Personally, I pay the money and get Eastwood power.

@FortuneCookie45LC

Жыл бұрын

Robert - Eastwood powder is the way to go..that Harbor Freight stuff isn't worth the effort - even the red is inferior to good powders like the Eastwood, or Prismatic or Powder by the Pound. Have a great day, Steve

IS THERE NOT SOME ELECTRICAL CHARGE THAT IS NEEDED.. A GROUNDING OF YOUR SUBJECT? I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS GUY IS DOING AT ALL.