"Why did you turn yourself into a pickle?" "Honestly, to challenge myself."

I realised my purpose was to up-vote this video. Once I had up-voted it I was slightly depressed when I realised I couldn't up-vote it again.

@jbtechcon7434

5 жыл бұрын

Want me to assign you a new purpose?

@paxigalaxi1405

5 жыл бұрын

My purpose was to upvote your comment. It's the circle of purpose.

@Mercurius34

5 жыл бұрын

and on it goes

@stephanmaurer4537

5 жыл бұрын

SO WHAT NOW ??? DANGER OF SUICIDE??? DON'T. THERE ARE OTHER VIDEOS TO UPVOTE. JUST WAIT A WEEK.

@akk2944

5 жыл бұрын

You can up-vote it again. Just keep clicking on it

I can already imagine the MMO's. Years of grinding. Unending grinding... I'm scared

@Nathouuuutheone

3 жыл бұрын

I picture such games more like huge open-ended sandboxes than realms of infinite grinding. Almost every MMO that has tried to go beyond what it is has included means to create, means to interact with more and more believable places and characters, and is obviously aiming for something more akin to a simulation with some roleplay flavor than for a grinding pit of "We forgot about Sisyphus"

@Corsayr

3 жыл бұрын

Future games will have a configuration that you and I literally can not imagine.

@ariannaeisendrath9782

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nathouuuutheone Check out the book Heir apparent it has an interesting plot

@ariannaeisendrath9782

3 жыл бұрын

@@Corsayr Check out the book Heir apparent it has an interesting plot

@ariannaeisendrath9782

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the book Heir apparent it has an interesting plot

Isaac really invested in the stock "Couples having fun" footage....

@Ian_sothejokeworks

3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean the two blondes at 2:48? XD Well, Isaac IS an optimist. The stock "couples fighting while their traumatized children watch from the hallway" footage probably wouldn't pitch his message very well. Come to think of it, why do they have that section?

@koboldparty4708

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ian_sothejokeworks I mean, I suppose it'd come in handy for a video essay on the most common causes of divorce or something.

@Ian_sothejokeworks

3 жыл бұрын

@@koboldparty4708 Fair enough. Or a cheap documentary on serial killers.

@DHorse

2 жыл бұрын

Matching turtleneck sweaters...

@DHorse

2 жыл бұрын

Not utopian? Really?

I don't have to exercise, my body stays in shape... Right now it stays in shape, just not the shape I want.

@RudeAlert

5 жыл бұрын

Round is a shape, so it should still count.

@DAYBROK3

5 жыл бұрын

I agree 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@leonardpearlman4017

4 жыл бұрын

@@RudeAlert In the FUTURE, you will be a sphere!

B: "What is my purpose?" R: "You pass butter" B: "Oh my god"

@garethbaus5471

2 жыл бұрын

And from the robots perspective Rick pretty much is a god, albiet a malevolent one.

@DEMiURGE455

Жыл бұрын

@@garethbaus5471 Imagine being born with no arms or legs and you’re just a nugget of a human. Imagine the anguish you would feel towards God for making you this way. Like it was a sick joke

But Issac, if we had post-scarcity, then we could all have genetically engineered catgirls, and then purpose is irrelevant.

@RaidsEpicly

4 жыл бұрын

I know this is a joke/meme but I also know a decent fraction of the people joking about it legitimately want it. I've never understood it, are they imagining a catgirl with cat level intelligence that you keep as a pet? Or one with human level intelligence that is their own independent 'person' with all the rights that entails? The first one is morally repugnant and the second one just means that the people that joke about wanting one will get ignored by them like they do with real girls

@Treviisolion

4 жыл бұрын

RaidsEpicly First one is basically putting a cat in a humanoid body, not too morally repugnant, at least not if you are ok with genetic modification. Perhaps the more morally repugnant thing to do would be to create a catgirl with human intelligence that was already madly in love with you, which when you got eternity, shouldn’t be that hard to do if you really want to do it. When we do reach this level of post-scarcity, if you still care about ethics, you really want to make certain that you can’t use your powers for despicable things. Afterall, if you live for say a million years, can you truly say at some point you won’t get bored enough to see how it feels to uplift a species of cockroaches to intelligence, let them build their civilizations to levels where they have machine guns, then live your dreams of mowing down insectoid alien scum in the real world, because you already did it several thousands times in the Virtual world and you were bored enough to see if it would be any different in the Real world.

@fanOmry

4 жыл бұрын

@@Treviisolion Never thought I'd be horrified on the behalf if Bug People.

@liamhalliday8437

4 жыл бұрын

This chat (the cockroaches rather than catgirls) reminds me of the Stargate Atlantis episode "The Game", where Sheppard and McKay develop their civilisations with different aims. I can totally imagine that level of detail, though I wonder if it'd be necessary to physically uplift the cockroach, when you can just run all the simulations you want, and not worry they can overthrow you and survive your nuclear rebuttal :) Regarding catgirls, aren't they just cute? There is a power dynamic there that does it for me, and perhaps with cats they aren't as mindlessly obedient as other animals. I mean if you love and feed them, they are loyal and loving (and whatever else you want to do with them), whereas if you don't they will just go to your neighbour to fulfil their needs. As long as it's consensual and the catgirl is purring away on your lap, I personally welcome whatever works for you and your partner(s).

@fanOmry

4 жыл бұрын

@@liamhalliday8437 For that persons goals.. Yes. Because they explicitly stated that would do this to compare with simulations.. Though If you follow them like this.. I thing you will have to breed out any of what you consider virtues.. Just So you call pretend you're not a genocidal maniac.. Because Myself.. While I can imagine starting that for that reason.. By the time they arw advance enough to make and use Laser guns.. I'd consider my precious, Dear and disgusting children.

Survival is not the only cause. I think we experience this in several MMORPG games. There are always things worth doing like art, creating life, teaching, playing, learning, etc. O can definitely picture myself as immortal.

@lordook5413

5 жыл бұрын

With me in 2300 you will surely be preoccupied with survival... (nothing personal, just more purpose)

“Whatever keeps you going” I have to say, if more had this philosophy, we would all be better off. Love the hell out of your videos. Please keep them coming.

@AntonioRonde

5 жыл бұрын

There's a german idiom for this attitude "Jedem Tierchen sein Baisierchen." translates to "Each one his own pleasure."

I love your worldview and love this video. So optimistic.

I could honestly see myself spending all of my time in simulations, just observing simulations of the universe and seeing different things develop, watch as civilizations develop, and how different civilizations interact with each other, I feel that with the endless possibilities of different situations that would develop that it would change things up enough to not get bored for quite a while

@crazyahhkmed

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe even play God a bit ? Hell you can even setup real cross universe space battles. A simulated Mass effect universe vs a simulation of our universe for instance, Marvel vs DC, Warhammer vs eve online. Use simulations with slightly altered histories to solve debates of "what would've happened if"..

@zemorph42

3 жыл бұрын

What about augmented reality? Who wouldn't like to see Yu-Gi-Oh duels in real life that look, to all participants and spectators, just like the shows. You might need special Eyewear to make it work, but still.

@SYNLIFESTYLE

5 ай бұрын

Interesting and entertaining IMO....being an observer of sorts. Maybe even Influencing....

Now I want to read a sci fi story about uncommitted suicidal super human cyborgs that hunt lions with nerf bats.

@patrick8116

5 жыл бұрын

Or dodgeball with railguns

@ChrisBrengel

4 жыл бұрын

_ESPECIALLY_ the hunting lions with nerf bats! The planetary ring diving into shark-infested waters sounds pretty cool too!

With all the stupidity at my job right now I really needed this for a change of pace. Thankyou Isaac

@robbert-janmerk6783

5 жыл бұрын

Fourth this.

@michaelkeefer5674

5 жыл бұрын

Must work for a government agency.

@squirlmy

5 жыл бұрын

Would it be inappropriate for me to whine that; at least you have a (regular?steady?) job? I need this to keep dwelling on my lack of employment. My personal future seems awfully dark without Isaac videos to watch.

@antifusion

5 жыл бұрын

Put your feet up and enjoy! :)

@RandyKalff

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder, what kind of stupidity are you talking about? Lack of historical knowledge, scientific illiteracy, blind belief in empty ideology, or...? +Cuvtixo D Can I join the party? It would be a major defiance of reason for me to believe I can find employment anytime soon, though I do play a role in that myself.

Manufactured purpose = Games. Protect your people from a horde of zombies. Get the ball over there while stopping the other team. And even chess. No intrinsic value moving a few wooden pieces around a board, except for the rules that say to do it.

@grant5642

4 жыл бұрын

Life too, is a game.

@matthewjackman8410

4 жыл бұрын

The problem with chess, poker etc is you can get so good at them that you can't improve. In post-scarcity one could likely become a master of chess in less than a day. All mathematical games would become obsolete and physical games would have to change massively to cater to the new half machine humans.

@dennisvlahos

4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewjackman8410 But presumably you'd also have the capacity to tune down your intelligence and physical abilities to whatever level you want temporarily, for the sole purpose of experiencing challenge.

The main pathways I see are: 1. finding joy and happiness, through fun and pleasant experiences and activities, enjoying nature, enjoying solitude or the company of others whenever they wish, training themselves through self-discipline to be happy no matter their situation 2. becoming creative in the arts, even designing whole new universes in virtual reality 3. building, maintaining, and improving relationships with others... family, friends, romance, children, perhaps trying to improve your compassion and kindness towards all, maybe seeking to improve your reputation 4. seeking to improve yourself, learning and improving your skills, becoming as self-sufficient as possible, even using all this time to independently verify all the facts of science, better understand yourself and integrate your subconscious, becoming a master of all trades, personally keep exploring and learning and meeting new people 5. joining a rebel movement that protests against some aspect of this system *** choosing to hibernate for a long time, or choosing to scientifically "reincarnate" by transforming your body so it's much younger and somewhat different and with total amnesia until you come of age, so you can experience life from a fresh perspective again Thoughts?

@kshirin0298

3 жыл бұрын

completely agree. but do you think that maybe any of these purposes could be taken so far as to create new problems in the society, causing more purpose (in the sense that there are problems that they need to solve, similar to our state as people today)? for example, trying to improve your reputation. do you think that maybe this can grow so far as to become similar to money in the way that it creates hierarchy and shifts between people? or would there be systems in place in this ideal society to prevent that from happening? now, do you think that, since something like reputation or popularity isn't really a factor that is relied on to keep us alive, it wouldn't matter? and maybe that would be preferred as a way to provide more groups of people with purpose?

@ghostdreamer7272

3 жыл бұрын

@@kshirin0298 My personal thoughts are that, since people could just ignore it if they didn't care about popularity and wouldn't suffer for it, that then it would only matter to people who cared about it. But that overall, each of these paths proves that humans will continue to be human, there will still be problems, and stories, life to be lived, but the most negative extreme of the spectrum of the sentient experience will have been eliminated. If that makes sense?

@kshirin0298

3 жыл бұрын

Dillon Olander ahhh I see! that seems to be ideal. thanks to advancement in psychology, addiction or extreme reliance on social hierarchy wouldn’t ever be much of a serious problem, but it would go to show that humans can still have their own personalities and flaws. although I also think that it is reasonable to expect that people in this society would want, and probably be granted, the ability to experience more negative lives through the medium of a voluntary delusion, with varying safety guards. there’s the idea that true happiness cannot come without feeling pain first, so do you think that with minimal negative experience, humans wouldn’t be able to be as passionate as before? or do you think since purpose and happiness can essentially be boiled down to an illusion humans feel, it can be manufactured outside of having to suffer first? I’m obsessed w the idea of a post scarcity utopia like this tbh, I think the world is progressing towards one (though we’re quite far from close to achieving it) hah

@ghostdreamer7272

3 жыл бұрын

@@kshirin0298 I actually have been planning to tackle some of those issues in a story I've been brainstorming and outlining on and off for the last 4 years or so! I think that, while hunger/violence/disease have always endangered us, the greatest pain has been very emotional. And those would still be experienced in a post-scarcity utopia, perhaps even to a greater degree since we'd have more time and fewer distractions. Relationship issues, parent/children issues, sibling issues, etc. The need some feel to be competitive, whether in recreational games/activities or creative challenges, even if just competing against yourself. The fact that so many people are afraid of a post-scarcity utopia, saying it would make things meaningless or that death and scarcity are preferable, shows that there would still be issues and it would force us to truly confront the meaning we want to create in our own lives and get at the crux of what life is really all about.

@kshirin0298

3 жыл бұрын

Dillon Olander hmmm that’s interesting! so you don’t think that a society like this would land in humans opting for an easy but presumably shallow experience by essentially allowing themselves to be deluded into feeling artificial joy at all times? I guess that makes for a more compelling narrative, and a more realistic one, too, considering that I doubt most people would vouch for that kind of illusion to be their new reality. then again, with rises in emotional issues in a post scarcity society, it might become a rampant problem the people would want to put past them imo. I could see arguments for it not being super outrageous, considering most of the human experience (as in, our feelings and perceptions of the world) are just minor illusions anyways, so adding onto it for a happier life wouldn’t necessarily be morally dubious. Although I also completely see in how a story using a post scarcity society to explore raw human nature in a story would work best assuming that doesn’t happen. Plus, under that kind of artificial control, would a person even really be human at that point, by our standards? Something that interests me is how the human psyche would evolve with all of these new changes occurring in the world. Do you think core human qualities will be altered by that stage in existence, or do you think we won’t be much different from how we are today? I feel like we’d be able to process more things going on than the average human today. With a constant stream of information, I think we’d adapt to being less overwhelmed, which might almost dilute our emotional breaking points (which would maybe balance out w the extra emotional burdens a post scarcity society inherently comes with). I’ve always been really interested in human psychology and how it evolves over time w culture, so I wonder how much different people will be if we ever reach a post scarcity utopia. *edit*: btw that story you’re working on sounds awesome!! lmk if/when the book drops fam, I’d love to read smthn like thag

I am going to be straight up honest. Probably sit around at home stuffing my face with foods, candies, drinks, reading my book, watching my tv, and diving into virtual reality. Maybe after a few centuries of that I would.... Go into hibernation mode for a century at a time? Or go find aliens and you know, fight them? Edit: you know what. I would probably write a few books. Got a whole list of concepts for some fantasy/space opera books etc.

@shin-ishikiri-no

4 жыл бұрын

I imagine you being overweight with greasy skin.

@Nmax

Жыл бұрын

I can dig that. That sounds like a good lost of things to do.

200 years from now I will send you a bottle of premium wine from Pluto ;)

@isaacarthurSFIA

5 жыл бұрын

I look forward to that, though it would be wasted on me, I've lived in wine country most of my life and still never developed a decent palate.

@differentialequation1514

5 жыл бұрын

You already did it. Don’t you remember?

@JeremyKolassa

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder how dry Plutonian wine would be...

@volcryndarkstar3283

5 жыл бұрын

I'll send you some carved compresses regolith trinkets from my cyllinder world orbiting Ceres. Come on down some time for a visit. Our gardens are unparalleled and our cuisine unmatched anywhere in Sol's well.

@mortimerhasbeengud2834

5 жыл бұрын

Why chose to live in such a bad neighborhood? I mean, all those "people" with their strange, trans-species sex habits, and their high taxes? You might as well go live in California, for crying out loud! Sheesh!

Isaac, Isaac, Isaac. Everybody, everybody knows that the future purpose of humanity will be to press big red buttons that turn the Referential Universal Digital Indexer on and respectively off, and all just to ensure that that most useful of post scarcity scarce resources, the Sprocket is produced continuously.

@arklanbk

5 жыл бұрын

is this a reference from something?

@deamon002

5 жыл бұрын

Yup, The Jetsons, where George's job was simply to push a button.

@AlucardNoir

5 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetsons yes, yes it was. Hope you get to see this series one day.

@sammorgan31

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck sprockets. #coglife

@AlucardNoir

5 жыл бұрын

Cogsweeeeeeeeel!

This always bugs me. There is so much to do in post scarcity. Perfect an art, or all arts. Get into science as we don't probably have perfect knowledge. Spiritual practice. Colonizing the universe.

This was a wonderful episode. I mean - all of the episodes are great, but this one was constructed in such a beautiful way that started with a particular question - "what would a person two centuries from now do?" and pushing us, viewers through their limits and beyond - connecting large-scale structures and a future that could be seen more clearly and detailed. Wow, just wow.

Seeing what the horizon is hiding sounds like it would be pretty cool. Cracking a beer with a certain Science and Futurism creator would be pretty cool too.

@scatman5225

5 жыл бұрын

meh i mean their are things humans can do that computers cant do so math past infitey collecting data and suprisingly art would be very popular becuse it wouldent take nearly as much effort you could attach a machine to your head and see your dreams or think of concepts and a machine would will them to be

In 300 years, you'll be getting a very in depth analysis of how right/wrong your hive mind video was from all 500 of me. I can promise that much ;)

@johnbash-on-ger

5 жыл бұрын

Voices in your head.

@merlindavid7678

3 жыл бұрын

Stella 500?

SO WOW! one of the best talks yet! thank you for so much!

I think I would devote myself entirely to the design and production of paperclips.

@Radgerayden-ist

5 жыл бұрын

Beautiful paperclips

@thecosmicchief8465

5 жыл бұрын

A noble endeavor.

@AmazingStoryDewd

4 жыл бұрын

This is just sad.

@Leo122188

4 жыл бұрын

Do you need someone to make paper for them too? Also nice avatar, we could probably set aside time small amount of time to read the three it four Prequel updates.

@ChrisBrengel

4 жыл бұрын

Yaaassss! Exactly what I was about to comment! You beat me to it

My favorite KZreadr.

My purpose would have to be to become a transdisciplinary scholar and explore the galaxy, something I wish I could do today (though right now my only purpose is to join the middle-class and escape poverty).

@darkphilosopher8726

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Bond, It is truly a great goal to have if you get the chance to become an immortal and will occupy countless thousands of years, infinitely more if living worlds are found. Simply focusing on having a better life and improving financial stability is a great goal in the meantime and may very well increase the odds of living to become immortal.

@Kirhean

5 жыл бұрын

I imagine there are a lot of us with the same life goals. See you at the Betelgeuse convention when we get around to scheduling it.

@alexanderkracinovich6123

5 жыл бұрын

Don't forget to write about your experience escaping poverty's gravity well in the meantime. We are going to need your story to inspire our great- grand kids to be determined.

@AsobiMedio

5 жыл бұрын

We should probably choose a different venue, an unstable red supergiant seems a bit dangerous.

@steve.k4735

5 жыл бұрын

Adam ... not trying to pick a argument or be a arse ... BUT ... HOW? ... at this moment in your life how much time everyday do you spend in deep study and in what subjects?

4:31 seriously! it's 2300 and Greece is STILL in talks with creditors?

@jwadaow

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right to me

@patrick8116

5 жыл бұрын

It's a long and proud tradition, why stop?

@ChrisBrengel

4 жыл бұрын

LOL!

A purpose to my Thursdays is to watch, like and learn from a new Isaac Arthur video. The best channel I have discovered in the last two years that has transformed how I view the world and universe. Another stellar episode, I am glad that you have tackled the many topics regarding post-scarcity civilizations, something I have struggled to comprehend.

Explaining the topic of purpose for our existence is one of the hardest topics anyone could ever dive into... great explanation and video Isaac

Starts of with Dostoevsky instant quality episode

@SockPuppet80

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds as if he said "Tolstoyevsky".

@jwadaow

5 жыл бұрын

Superauthors Matrioshka novel

@stefanr8232

5 жыл бұрын

I just assumed Isaac was mispronouncing Tsiolkovsky. I do not know how to pronounce Tsiolkovsky.

@SockPuppet80

5 жыл бұрын

That'd be tzol-KOV-skee, I think. Not really hearing it.

@rationalmartian

5 жыл бұрын

Wasn't perfectly pronounced. But it was damn well good enough to tell who he was referencing. I had zero problem anyway.

Thanks Isaac. I was struggling to find purpose and questioning my existence. Your outlook of the future has helped me greatly.

I am a Coach for gymnastics and when you said that bit about waking up every morning with a reason, I completely nodded. I definitely wake up excited to go to work because I cannot wait to see what new achievements I can help inspire and guide. Regarding your Matrix plot, my mind is blown. Where I thought I had finally escaped my last existential crisis about a simulation world, you just pulled me back in. lol

A world without arthritis....sounds like paradise.

@scientistsbaffled5730

5 жыл бұрын

Eat cannabis

@scientistsbaffled5730

5 жыл бұрын

timeofsage stay off the internet. The Wim Hof method is some s*** you saw a KZread video. Have you tried it? No. Stop the bull shit.

@enviromental2565

3 жыл бұрын

Or without genetic diseases or migraines (not a minor irritation) or missing limbs or blindness or neurological disorders or any number of psychological issues and you would automatically know how to spell psychological and would not have to google it.

Already we have things that occupy people's time that are totally meaningless. People will find ways to keep themselves busy, even if the accomplishment in their own minds. We spend time memorizing meaningless stats about athletes, or we spend hours upon hours grinding in some video game to raise meaningless digital number just a little higher. I think we are programmed to keep ourselves busy, even if we ultimately know it will have no impact in the real world. That kind of work will satisfy our brains enough to continue our existence.

@scottyj6226

4 жыл бұрын

Jeffry Garew monument building

@leonardpearlman4017

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, sometimes we even get JOBS!

@garethbaus5471

2 жыл бұрын

@@leonardpearlman4017 that might not be an option for very many more genoration, we are starting to reach the point where mental tasks are being automated, and there isn't going to be enough demand for creative work(realistically being any task that has a low enough intrinsic value that nobody bothers to automate it) so that everyone on the planet will be able to honestly call it a job.

There should be a movie about this post scarcity utopia but where there is massive unrest because of inequality it would be a good analogy for post industrial society

I'm 31, I have always doubted that society would discover immortality in my lifetime, but I had an interesting thought watching Westworld this past week. My son stands a much better chance at existing long enough to live forever, and his child's chances will be even better. In that way, I will live forever. Currently most people only truly remember back to their great grandparents, and at the moment they die those that they remembered are truly lost. But if my son or eventual grandson lives on forever at least I will be remembered forever... I dont know why that's better than not being remembered, but I find it comforting.

Can't wait for Generation Ships! This is one of my favorite sci-fi topics and I'd love to hear it discussed in details.

@isaacarthurSFIA

5 жыл бұрын

Well you'll be happy to know we decided to make it a series, 4 episodes officially scheduled, 2 written, a fifth on the drawing board :)

@JcoreUKhardcore

5 жыл бұрын

Great news, made me indeed a little happier today. As a person really interested in the topic, now my expectations are quite high. There's so much interesting things to be covered. Not only stuff like ship size, fuel or mimimumum viable population but also aspects that I don't see discussed a lot - like political systems, freedom of choosing ones way of life, psyhological problems (middle generations probably won't be the happiest people there) or... failed missions (imagine a ship that somehow missed it destination. It's still functional but with no real chance of going anywhere, drifting through empty space full of people that lost their goal and can only wait until something will break beyond repair - kind of dark futurism, but it can happen someday when we try to reach the stars). Nevertheless, whatever you and your team will choose - I'm counting on you ;)

@JeremyKolassa

5 жыл бұрын

And if we ever did discover FTL travel, how would leapfrogging over them affect them? Would laws be implemented prohibiting colonizing worlds that generation ships are destined for? Would interfering with a generation ship be grounds for criminal punishment? (In Elite: Dangerous, messing with the people on a generation ship is punishable by marooning.) I guess that wouldn't be a topic for this channel, though...

@volcryndarkstar3283

5 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Kolassa I'd imagine that if FTL travel were to be developed mid-transit for a generation ship, the travellers would have to stop at said ship, take on its passengers, and haul them out to the new star. Could be interesting given that both ships would likely contain populations hundreds or thousands of years removed from one another. The language and cultural barriers would provide an interesting dynamic. Could make a good story.

@stardolphin2

5 жыл бұрын

Got FTL? Why mess around? Locate them if possible, Intercept them, attach a drive to them, get them there (or back to Earth, if they choose) sooner. (Heinlein's 'Time for the Stars' ended this way, though they had much faster, steady 1-G starships, but the folks back home still saw fit to look for them, when they got FTL.) Problem solved. Now, it's different, if it's a faster *sub*light ship, and rendezvous may not be possible, all you can do is a demoralizing flyby and wave... Then again, why even assume they're cut off from home and don't know that this is now possible? Aren't they getting news and information updates from Earth via radio and laser? Will we lie to them about advances in propulsion (or anything else relevant, like life-extension, or proven suspension) since they left?

As long as you have no purpose, your purpose is to look for purpose until you find it.

@isaacarthurSFIA

5 жыл бұрын

Damn, I wish I'd thought of that and stuck it in the episode

@RoySchl

5 жыл бұрын

Isaac Arthur that episode was already amazing... leave some crums for us commenters ;)

@joshuarichardson6529

5 жыл бұрын

My goal is to watch the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies collide and merge together. That sounds like it would be a very impressive sight to see, but I have to figure out what to do in the 2 billion years until it takes place.

@RoySchl

5 жыл бұрын

better invest in a time lapse camera while you can

5 жыл бұрын

Purpose is nothing more then a distraction from death.

5:36 "Hi, I am someone from a post scarcity civilization, and this is jackass".

Our purpose in post scarcity will be waiting for your videos :)

I don't agree with the assumption that the feeling of purposelessness arises mainly from the absence of scarcity and hardship. Being myself a subemployed and broke student in third world country which can barely afford shoes and medicine some days, I was never immune to the thought that life and human existence in general is gratuitous and has no final goal. Sorry if that's not really what you meant, but it is an idea that I have seem thrown around quite a lot, such as in the TV series Bojack Horseman.

@calmexit6483

2 жыл бұрын

He’s referring to a world so far into the future that even a modern day billionaires “struggles” wouldn’t exist for the common lay person.

This is a big one that I think a lot of people overlook in futurism. The more I think about purpose and the future, the more confident I am in saying that I think the majority of people in the future will willingly enter simulations for the majority of their existence

@holleey

5 жыл бұрын

funny thing is that there's a decent chance that your prediction isn't even one about the future

@louiserocks1

5 жыл бұрын

Tom Meakin if there was a game like vrchat, with the quality and similar gameplay like skyrim or wow , and it was a MMO, in like 10 years in the future when VR technology has significantly improved, I would spend all my time there for sure lol

@QuestionableObject

5 жыл бұрын

I'd certainly be one of those people, just surfacing whenever I need a breather to catch up on current events and media then diving back in. There's not much I really want from reality.

@bobs-builds62

5 жыл бұрын

I would spend most of my time in survival games be vr or not.

@burbanpoison2494

5 жыл бұрын

Tom Meakin ok, bye! Get off the freeway already. Zapping your brain with lasers will send you to digital heaven forever and ever, and you should totally do it as soon as possible.

It makes me smile to know that you enjoy doing this - thank you and you are awesome

I often don't press like on all your shows that I watch but I like them all, but I am subscribed. I so enjoy your thinking and the depth of your approach to each subject. Let's just say you have a depth that I don't have. I am better for listening to you and depth may come in time. Keep up the great work, you put a lot into each show.

This was kind of inspiring, Thanks for the your Logical analogy.

@Strideo1

5 жыл бұрын

I love these positive futurism videos. I get so tired of the misanthropic comments people post all over the internet about how humanity is bad for itself and for the planet and any large feat of engineering or technology is just our hubris and will eventually be our downfall. I don't believe that nonsense. I know humanity has its problems and its flaws but I also know humanity has tremendous potential to improve and do amazing things. Things a lot of people don't even understand are possible right now. That's why I think the message guys like Isaac Arthur are sending are so important right now. We may be suffering and making mistakes now but we need to believe in ourselves and our ability to get better.

You've got to be kidding me... I just finished reading a very long (approx. 8hrs) thread on a Philosophy video and rushed for your video(haven't watched it yet). This is what I get, the universe must hate me OR Philosophy is trying to kill me. Seriously, love your channel. Always great.

@halomastersT10

5 жыл бұрын

Michael DeHaven may I ask what he Video was and it’s contents?

@DNihilHEAVYIndustries

5 жыл бұрын

halomastersT10 apparently not haha

I’ve listened to every single video of Isaac Arthur’s and some of them several times over. I anticipate every new video. I gotta say I have never once been let down. Isaac’s BRILLIANCE at every moment of his talks keeps me wanting more. I just want to say thank you Isaac for your most beautiful contribution to my world and I sincerely hope there comes that day that you and I can live past old age and meet in the future!

While listening to this video, I decided to go mow my yard. Not even a minute into the mowing, my belt slipped off of a pulley that was far into the deck. I had to take the deck off and fix it all with only a rusty 9/16 wrench. Now, as I finish, I realized that this mundane but difficult problem has given me more of a sense of purpose than I've felt in weeks. Thanks Isaac. This was a truly enlightening experience.

My purpose would be to explore. Solving the problems, even the mundane ones, of exploring far from home would give all that knowledge and skills a great workout along with producing a valuable product to society (even if it takes eons to become valuable).

@inkisblackiswhiteis1

5 жыл бұрын

Meme Commando Mike ai and robot can do that y risk your life

@majesticcactus2244

5 жыл бұрын

DudedB where’s the purpose in that?

@maxmyers6937

5 жыл бұрын

Ewan Penhale Where’s the purpose in anything?

I love your videos man you break down everything and its bloody legendary.

An existence where there is no struggle, no hard work, no morality, no sense of community - sounds like hell to me. It is not in the nature of humans to have everything done for them. It destroys the person.

@johnbash-on-ger

5 жыл бұрын

You're crazy.

@AmazingStoryDewd

4 жыл бұрын

We'll all probably eventually just commit suicide out of sheer boredom.

Thanks Isaac I've been really looking for this one. Hard subject to tackle but you surely did it brilliantly as always.

In this future scenario, it might get very difficult for anyone creative / artistic to do something unique and original. Or, we will develop all new means of expression. Exciting to contemplate!

What do you want to be when you grow up? Existentially relevant.

Whatever keeps you going.... greetings from 2021 - genuinely moving to hear that.

Isaac I can only echo your sentiment on existential dread and the meaning of life. Such deep thoughts tend to only drag me deeper into a rabbit hole, mostly in a frustrating way, never depressing mind you. Purposely choosing some motivation or direction in life, all the while aware that it really has no weight in the grand scheme of things seems to be quite effective and allows you to live a happier life. All of this is subjective of course, and I shouldn't be surprised someone else has also come up with this, it just feels strange that someone on youtube (of all the places) just comes out and says it. Then again, this is why I come here.

The 1st time I saw Men in Black, I decided I wanted the universe to be fractal in nature.. The cat's collar... "The Galaxy Rests On Orion's Belt".. I know the reason spirals are so common is gravity and angular momentum etc etc but it's fun to think that everything is more similar, fun to imagine there is something always beyond the horizon... the pin sized black hole has an entire universe expanding behind a dense shell.. We see these spirals, fractals and vortexes when we hallucinate, when we dream... it feels like the nature of all things... It's just more fun to imagine a limitless world than a cold and finite existence with dense no-go zones and apparently devoid of life, with entropy surely having already ended our short run... Now if only the science matched up with more fun fictions... perhaps one day.

My biggest fear is what to do when we are post survival. I worry a moral singularity will occur and it'll be like talking to yourself all day everyday.

@micahwebb57

Жыл бұрын

Yes which is why being mortal makes your purpose much more purposeful

I think this one of the best video you ever did... no, this the best one you ever did... it makes me feel alive and fill my heart and soul with great hope to live my life to the fullest in our times and for the future... against the madness and insanity of the world that we all live in today... Thank you, Ph.D. Isaac Arthur.

It is a lot of work and knowledge invested in every episode you put out there.Love to watch them Isaac.

Its hard to prepare my mind to be blown this hard this regularly

The Smart Ai could have people do "important jobs" that it pretends it cannot do, to give them purpose. Imagine an Ai on a warship that is smarter than everyone on board, but they throw out enough "dumb ideas" in a consistent way to make people think they not intelligent strategically, but they can handle the ship and weapons far better than humans. So humans man weapons stations (for target assigning, etc) and handle strategy while it follows orders, and handles ship manoeuvres and weapons. Other Ais do just enough but have humans still in the loop while they pretend the humans are needed. Fully automated warship systems are attacked/sabotaged by the Ais and set up for catastrophic failure, to maintain the status quo, nothing like a supposed automated warship going bughouse nuts to make people think not having people on board is a bad idea! If an Ai laughs up its sleeves while no one is around to hear it, does it make any sound?

@Yakoable

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds a lot like what a Culture mind would do.

@atalhlla

5 жыл бұрын

Yakoable That and have a small fuzzy meat puppet for funsies.

@alanfriesen9837

5 жыл бұрын

Is he a good boy? Oh yes he is. Watch the stick, watch the stick!

@user-pg3sw6kk7v

5 жыл бұрын

Solanumtinkr it would be illogical to be so convoluted.

@solanumtinkr8280

5 жыл бұрын

If people have something seemingly important to do is required for sanity and continuance, then what you are complaining is no longer convoluted, but required.

Thanks Isaac - this is the episode I've been looking forward to for the longest time. A couple of quick comments. Firstly, you briefly touched on the concept of "free will" and its relation to purpose. I think the two biggest culture shocks of the 21st century will be us just starting to edge into post-scarcity (e.g. large numbers of jobs starting to be replaced with automation) and the large-scale acceptance of the non-existence of "free will". I think just getting past the latter of those will be as big a deal as our civilisation adapting to post-scarcity. Secondly, the kind of people who watch your channel, and some other people, may be able to adapt reasonably quickly to a world where to find purpose you look beyond satisfying immediate needs and instead look to huge scale (resources and time) projects to find a purpose. However, the vast majority of folks in the world are good people who will find it massively difficult to make that switch and might not be able to ever do it. We're already in a situation where we're preparing the next generation for the kind of world that won't exist for them and that's just going to get worse. I wonder if anyone will have the political will to try and prepare us for it or whether we're going to get global scale Luddism to try and hold back the tide. Keep up the great work.

This channel is on the brink of major growth, love the content

Happy Arthursday! Finally the week has purpose!

No time to watch just yet, ill be back at noon... but AHHH!!! Another existential crisis video... Welp, I was getting bored with sleeping at night anyways...

@havenmirabella3003

5 жыл бұрын

Cluckery Duckery Don’t worry, it will never happen. Our economy is designed to artificially create scarcity to produce profits, and that won’t go away with new technology.

@cluckeryduckery261

5 жыл бұрын

Cayden Jackson well yes, but it's designed that way out of necessity. We need people to be motivated to do work for things to get done. But as that necessity wanes, it does seem reasonable that our current economic paradigm will transform at the very least. But not in my lifetime lol. No, I wrote that before I actually watched the video, based on the title. lol it wasn't as existential crisis inducing as I first thought.

Absolutely my favorite channel! This amazing blend of philosophy and science. @isaac Arthur - just brilliant!

Just found you channel yesterday, awesome content!

Assuming we have some method of interstellar travel, i would probably play god for a long time. Get myself a ship, find a nice little patch of space, set up shite, and watch as civilization evolves. Would also probably spend some time pioneering, or at least exhaustively learning, both biology and physics. I am immortal and patient... Or make myself patient. I can afford to spend a million years designing that superdog I wanted my race of gerbils to ride into battle after all. Then toss a wrench into it all and watch them react. That is a favourite pasttime of mine when RPing with friends. Would probably also spend time deconstructing reality to make magic happen... For science! Now, you may be wondering why I would not just pay 5 virtualpotatos a month for some processing capacity on titan and run it in a simulation. Good question. Probably would, at least until i learn the ropes and no longer try to keep the T-Rex and the cows in the same pen... But the real thing should be in "reality", otherwise it is just cheap... Like showing off your base in a game and then revealing that you did it in godmode with a cheat menu...

@johnbash-on-ger

5 жыл бұрын

But interfering with civilizations would interfere with trying to learn about their natural and technological development. So you would become a data collector.

6:11 Hmmm... probably helping with interplanetary colonisation

Sometimes I wake up in the morning and think 'Wow, why did I decide to start that memory wiped, early 21st century simulation', and then I watch your videos XD. Awesome work as always!

Thanks for adding in the bit about ecosia. I use it all the time and hope more people know about it, so they have more options in searching and helping out the world

This is a topic which is kinda impossible not to become political. Would ultimate technological capabilities mean ultimate utopia and equality? an interesting question and not one with a definite answer. But a good case can be made that more prospertiy has not always resulted in a better life style for all. We already have today the capacity to bring a very high standard of living to everyone on earth were it not because of political decisions. ¿So could be really be sure that an inmense amount of technological development would really end scarcity? I think that the topic of equality should be discussed separately as i believe there are many instances of societies in which by politics alone the standard of living of the whole civilization got improved or worsened regardles of its total avaivability of resources.

@LogicalMayhem00

5 жыл бұрын

This is after all the non cyborg/super humans have been out competed and are extinct. Race will be meaningless when everyone has super genes and access to look how ever they want.

@DonCDXX

5 жыл бұрын

I like to think that the movement towards equality is just humanity's attempt to shed the aristocratic habits of the past. The more we shed expectations of the normalcy of vast inequality, the more innately become more egalitarian. For a handful of people to have more resources than half the world's population combined has been part of humanity's natural order for a long time. We've gradually become less accepting of that idea over the last few centuries, and I don't imagine we'll become more accepting of it again in the future.

@user-el6ve2rl9b

5 жыл бұрын

Thats a nice thought and i think many share it but probably not all. And the problem IMO is that not everyone who is in charge of technology thinks like that. There was speculation in the XIX century that the invention of machines would bring prosperity for all, but it soon proved to be wrong as it tended to concentrate wealth in the hands of those who were the owners of those machines. Technology alone does not improve the life of all if it's not particularly and very conciously made by a form of social organization that hast that goal. One might argue that the machines we have now are way too primitive compared to what the future holds in store for us, could be. But in my opinion no matter how advanced the technology if it doesn't come with a better social organization it won't be beneficial for mankind. We could easily end up in a cyber punk distopia and i think were somewhat headed that way already.

@DonCDXX

5 жыл бұрын

At this rate, I'm expecting the most accurate movie at predicting the future will likely be Soylent Green, but we can hope for better...

@havenmirabella3003

5 жыл бұрын

It wouldn’t. The rich would get richer, the middle class would see no change, and the poor will get poorer.

Eldar be like...

@philridley9175

5 жыл бұрын

Whats a 'Slaaneesh'?

@marioscuderi7359

5 жыл бұрын

Eldar: We can finally enjoy a post scarcity society! Chaos entities: hold my beer

This was a very beautiful episode. I feel that is an important distinction to make because SFIA is always very fascinating, informative, eye-opening or thought-provoking, but...somehow in this episode, the themes and the exploration of them was...beautiful. And that's not how you would describe most episodes. I can't quite put my finger on why...

I absolutely love the picture of the future you painted in the first few minutes of the video, THAT'S the future I want to live in! Love how you have such a positive outlook on the future.

Relationships might get weird - or vanish. Do couples still need/want anything from each other?

6:10 I would turn lazy and useless. I do not have a higher opinion of myself.

@PopPop-sl5lt

5 жыл бұрын

Life well spent

@johnbash-on-ger

5 жыл бұрын

+ChocolateKuruma No, you are already lazy and useless. You just lack the opportunity to express your natural lazy and useless lifestyle.

Man... I cant even describe how great your channel is. After binging through everything earlier this year, I now look forward each week. Listening to this episode especially makes me forget all of the nonsense going on with politics, borders, abortion, etc. and really puts things into perspective. I can't wait to see what the future holds.

Outstanding video as always! Thank you!

"Because it upsets lions":D

@patrick8116

5 жыл бұрын

Stop wearing spandex It causes the lions gas and indigestion Thanks

@Karmasu_L

3 жыл бұрын

If you can hold you own against 10 of todays soldiers, does a lion really pose a challange? I know not point of what he said, i was just wondering.

"I encourage you to think about yourself, as it helps circumvent the assumption that everyone will turn lazy and useless. Plot twist, I'm lazy and useless now (

Really enjoyed this one mate, thanks very much. Nice to have a philosophical take on things for a twist.

Thank you for introducing me to Ecosia. Great content by the way!

99.7% pretty damn awful if you consider the scale of that Civilization and the amount of travel they do

@isaacarthurSFIA

5 жыл бұрын

I think they just end up at the wrong place and have to backtrack

@DrewLSsix

5 жыл бұрын

Isaac Arthur. Yeah, I wasnt sure if it was the "fly into supernova" scale failures some SCIFI has.

happy arthursday!

10:59 brought a tear to my eye... I do not know why. Thanks Isaac, a beautiful vision of our future ... just hope I can live long enough to see it

Your videos always jog the brain, love em

Deep man..

I clicked so fast that hurt my finger

@MrRishik123

5 жыл бұрын

scrub. I achieved FTL with my finger when i clicked on that notification.

@Nobody-11B

5 жыл бұрын

The Exoplanets Channel I literally shattered my phone screen! LMAFO I hit it so hard I dropped my phone like 10 feet.

@SC-zq6cu

5 жыл бұрын

I clicked it so fast that it got clicked before I clicked it.

@chrisgorgol9442

5 жыл бұрын

I clicked this in my dream and woke up when it posted

@Mrbfgray

5 жыл бұрын

Some folks need a JOB or a girlfriend.

Intriguing. I enjoy thinking on this. Thank you for fulfilling your purpose. :)

Amazibg vid as always isaac! Looking forward to the next collab with John!

I'll be a super villain take make the future more interesting.

@Radgerayden-ist

5 жыл бұрын

David Johnson ok I take the Batman role

@FairyRat

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your sacrifice.

@correctionguy7632

4 жыл бұрын

the jews?

@paullilly9645

4 жыл бұрын

What a public serrvant. Lol

@ChrisBrengel

4 жыл бұрын

There's a movie called _Dispicable Me_ you should watch for background...

Too much hedonism is how the Eldar got Slaanesh. Beware post-scarcity!

@isaacarthurSFIA

5 жыл бұрын

I just had quick vision of some super-AI tasked to overseeing various jaded VR pleasure sims going all Skynet but in a Slaanesh kind of way.

@philridley9175

5 жыл бұрын

Oh it wasnt just the Eldar who got Slaanesh...

@SemNome-ds1qy

5 жыл бұрын

Beware the Xenos

@marioscuderi7359

5 жыл бұрын

I am detecting heresy in this place

@captainanopheles4307

5 жыл бұрын

Justin Coates you say that like it's a bad thing.

Space exploration, robot/AI building, building the ultimate video game. The possibilities would be endless and you’d have the time to enjoy them.

Another fabulous, quality episode Issac. Much appreciated old love. And when did the subs get to quarter of a Million, EH? I hadn't noticed. You deserve every fucking one m8, and another few Million besides. Bravo Isaac Arthur. Certainly one of the best channels on KZread.

One hurdle is the tendency for governments to become conservative and unrepresentative. We will need a new economic rationale in order to become a 'post-scarcity civilization' in the first place. The currently rich would certainly try to prevent such a state of matters.

@TheArklyte

4 жыл бұрын

they will. However it'll cause the society to split into caste system again. And the problem is... they're not smart enough to run their own technology. So they'll never be able to go much worse then nowaday. And you should not forget that the more complex and expensive new tech becomes, the longer becomes its production chain and the wider the base of this tower. It requires more and more specialists the higher we get up the tech ladder to stay on spot without falling back. Eventually we simply wouldn't be able to afford to have poor and uneducated people anymore if we'd want to go further up...

@rustyshackleford1508

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call our dystopian political system very conservative, since even the nominal conservatives seem more than willing to sell us all down the river to the false god of blind "progress"

@rustyshackleford1508

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheArklyte nice display of elitism, no doubt you think you're some "enlightened" specimen

21:38 Pluto is no longer a planet. You thought you could get away with it if you didn't write the names, but the tilt of the orbit gave it away! If you're gonna put it on a map alongside planets then you should also include Ceres, Sedna and Eris. :D

Succinct and very thoroughly thought out as always!

Another thing to consider is that if purpose ever does become an issue due to complacency being commonplace, then we might end up genetically engineering ourselves to be less susceptible to laziness and to be more easily inspired and motivated to do things. I agree with what you said in the video though, I don't think it'll come to that, but it's good to know that there are always solutions of course.