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@shaileshmathews4086

3 ай бұрын

Educated modern indians must know the true history and fraud of Koonan Kurusu struggle. When the Portuguese brought new christian convents with equality ,into the churches after the rise of the Synod in udyam Perur, a small minority of Syrian Christians, who were at the forefront of India's Chatur varna system and were enjoying cast privileg the society , protested and came out of the Catholic churches of the Portuguese . But it has nothing to do with their patriotism. It is related to the Chatur varna system which is humanistic in Indian culture. Interestingly, the Syrians, who had questioned the Portuguese supremacy, subsequently accepted as their bishop not an Indian: the foreigner Abdallah Patriarkis, This Cleary brings out of the fraud of the Koonan Kurusu struggle.

Proud to be called a Syrian Christian and an Indian citizen…

I am a malankara orthodox Christian & I am proud of it.❤

@Dragon_Ball_Z70

7 ай бұрын

Me too 😊

@user-qi1he1lt7t

7 ай бұрын

@@Dragon_Ball_Z70 👍

@shaileshmathews4086

3 ай бұрын

Educated modern indians must know the true history and fraud of Koonan Kurusu struggle. When the Portuguese brought new christian convents with equality ,into the churches after the rise of the Synod in udyam Perur, a small minority of Syrian Christians, who were at the forefront of India's Chatur varna system and were enjoying cast privileg the society , protested and came out of the Catholic churches of the Portuguese . But it has nothing to do with their patriotism. It is related to the Chatur varna system which is humanistic in Indian culture. Interestingly, the Syrians, who had questioned the Portuguese supremacy, subsequently accepted as their bishop not an Indian: the foreigner Abdallah Patriarkis, This Cleary brings out of the fraud of the Koonan Kurusu struggle.

Very good video with a strong message , I had a co worker, from this community at my office in Mumbai. They are in general very well disciplined, conservative and classy people. Once I went, to their Syrian church, their prayer forms and rituals are very different from the way we think about Christianity in North India which is based all around what Europeans and white people do . The most surprising part I came to know was they mostly marry within their community and not even with other christians , and they generally also do not convert any people to their community. Just they propagate faith and strengthen their own community. I hope these people continue to hold their centuries old beliefs and customs, and not change it for the white men, who do propagate that whatever they do is only correct and civilized. First we should learn to respect our own traditional beliefs and culture then of other foreigners.

@rafaelabreu2873

9 ай бұрын

As a Christian catholic and Portuguese, I agree with you that this people should keep their traditions. You should understand that was a historical process of expansion that serves to understand today day and age. Also we shouldn't vilify races and people but their actions. Also is very important to differentiate Christianity from christandom. I'm glad that today there is peace among those communities.

@anuplalgopalan5198

8 ай бұрын

Syrian Christians have many Hindu Customs and respect for their Hindu Roots. They stood by the Hindu Kings of Kerala. They are considered to be converts from Hindu Uppercastes during the visit of St.Thomas

Proud to Be a Kerala Syrian Christian Nasrani

Wonderful video, I would thank the channel for putting up information about our community. I am a Kerala Syrian Christian from the Syro-Malabar sect, I am really saddened by the way that rituals and traditions in the Syro-Malabar church have changed over the past few years. In my childhood, the Holy mass in our Church used to be completely different , it used to have East Syriac prayers and songs, which was used in our church for centuries . Nowadays I can find no difference between our Church rituals and other Latin Churches. Really heartbreaking , that sometimes we even have english used in our Qurbana, but almost no use of the East Syriac liturgy used not even on special occasions, which was used by our ancestors for thousands of years. Today many of the younger generation Nasrani's have a faint idea of what our community used to be 50 years ago, narrated to our grandchildren by us. But I am sure, if no changes are made in bringing back some old traditions by our Syrian Christian Churches, generations after a few more years will have no idea about our history and culture as it will be completely diluted and whitewashed.

@pj7838

9 ай бұрын

It is still followed in Assyrian church of east or chaldean church of east in India. Have you attended their qurbana?

@rafaelabreu2873

9 ай бұрын

I'm Portuguese and Christian catholic, never knew about this community, and this history. Where can I learn more about your traditions?

@pragasamanthony3251

5 ай бұрын

Syrian Catholics of St Thomas churches must severe all ties with the Church of Rome and recover their traditional Catholic Apostolic tradition of praying in the Syrian Aramaic language of Ishu Mashkha.For free online Syriac lessons please visit: YEAST Online Education {Google search}

I am a proud syrian Jacobite Christian 🙏.

@arnabchakraborty1462

5 ай бұрын

Jacob was followed by the Portuguese. Please trace your original ethnicity and traditions.

@AbrahamAbraham-sj5fx

2 ай бұрын

Fake Church iam from Ethiopian church follow malankara

Proud to be a Syrian Christian ❤️❤️❤️

Well done Rahel! You covered many important things although mixing many of the theories! The end was super!

Thanks Dear Rahel Mariam for the enlightening effort. The last message you emphasized is what we need in today's world. May Almighty reward you for your pure intention. Hoping to meet you one day. 🙏🏻

As a historian and anthropologist, I was always very intrigued about this ancient christian community in india and I have done detailed study on this community , would like to congratulate this channel for putting up this video, indeed it is a result of much research, often many true and evident facts about this community is potrayed as fake and rumoured stories, and often delineated as if these colloquially called nasranis never existed before the arrival of european missionaries in india but the real truth is that it is a historically proven and evident fact that The Jews have had a presence in Malabar India atleast from the year 69 AD and the Syrian Christians from at least 325 AD.

Thanks for showering lights on this topic. 🙏🏻

my ancistors also from musiris (kodungalloor) very proud to hear that

Malankara (Jacobite)Syrian Orthodox church of anthioc first Christian church established in the land of india. Proud to be a Syrian jacobite Christian❤☦️

@manojm9176

6 ай бұрын

Incorrect information , everybody was following the east Syriac liturgy and traditions. Antiochian traditions were introduced post koonan cross oath.

@rohangeorge4186

5 ай бұрын

oldest bible found in malankara buchanan bible is in west syriac not east syriac and even east syrian churches were under antioch in 3rd century @@manojm9176

@curiousobserver123

3 ай бұрын

I am also Jacobite. I have been reading about the history and understood that there were two forms of Christianity here -> Nestorian (St. Thomas Judeo-Dravidian) and Manichean (Parsi-Dravidian). There are remnants of the Nestorian in the Kottayam Cheriyapalli orthodox church and Catholic Art Museum near Boat-pally. Parsi-Dravidian line is visible in the Kollam Tharisappally. Antiochian (West-Syriac) relations just started in 16th century. Its sad that the true Form of christianity that existed here was completely wiped by Portugese invaders. Current Christianity (almost everywhere) is the result of all the killings and oppression done by Vatican. Acts of St Thomas and Gospel of Thomas are beautiful writings that does not glorify Jesus as a God, but rather as a powerful teacher, more like an enlightened Buddha

@Varba9

2 ай бұрын

ആഹ് ബെസ്റ്റ്. രാമായണം മുഴുവൻ വായിച്ചു കഴിഞ്ഞിട്ട് രാമൻറെ പെങ്ങളാണ് സീതയെന്ന് പറയുന്നപോലെയായി ഇത്.

@masgamer6567

Ай бұрын

Hi,according to the council of Nicaea(in ad 325 ) the patriarchate of anthioc only has the right to rule the eastern region(including india). Apom pinne egane nigal parayunne kariyam sheriyavum??.syrian Orthodox sabhayude territory ann ee parayuna kerala vum ellam.Apom pinne avarude allkar alle adhyam ivide kanuka pinne keralathil Christians ine inne vare arum persian Christians nn onnum villichitt illalo ellareyum syrian Christians enna alle villiche.suriyani Christianikal enn ellarum vilikunne syrian orthodox sabhe ann (adhya kallakathathil ipom palla sabhakalum swatham ayitt agane okke paranjalum technically syrian orthodox karr ann ethratha suriyanikar athin Prethekichsamshayam onnum illa💯) allathe Persians sabhaye alla oru pakshe ad 4 the centuryk okke shesham church of east um ayitt relation ondayitt ondakam pakshe avar ann ivide adhyam ondyenn onnum parayan pattula

Many royal Nair Buddhists embraced Syrian Christian belief in the 12 th century and were called Achan and later achayan.

At least those who love the truth will cherish it and spread it as the Gospel of historical truths.

Good presentation, its a fact for the people who still thinks Christians in India came through Dutch and British and for calling "Converted Rice Bags"

@emilmohan1000

8 ай бұрын

It is widely believed among north…

@ashwinkumar.s5993

5 ай бұрын

​@@emilmohan1000the north Protestant and catholics are indeed rice bag

@ranigeorge1824

15 күн бұрын

We dont want any rice bags We want Jesus❤ Proud Syrian Christians🥰

There was a Christian Nazrani Kingdom existed in Kerala called "Villarvattom swaroopam" the king descentres of Villarvattom swaroopam is called as Thoma, Thoma one, Thoma two like that, and it is considered as one of the Samantha Kingdom of thirukochi kingdom.

@ashwinkumar.s5993

5 ай бұрын

Not a real kingdom,paper kingdom inder kochi raja Christians and muslims even though equal to Nairs in social status but were considered mlecha( foreigner) so cannot rule unlike Nairs ,who ruled most kerala kingdoms like travancore and samoothiri

@JustinThomas-fe8tb

15 күн бұрын

​@@ashwinkumar.s5993Bro nairs are shudras, they can't rule. Even kings had to undergo special ceremony to become Samantha Kshatriya inorder to rule. There were no Kshatriyas or Vaishyas in Kerala.

Proud to be a syrian Christian

Very informative for me from the Syro Malabar sect👍

Very true, I also belong to the Syro-Malabar sect , and the traditions and worship forms we performed about 50 years back was very different, my grandchildren won't even believe that our Holy Mass used to be in East Syriac , a dialect of the language spoken by Jesus Christ himself during his lifetime. Compartive to most other Kerala Syrian Christian groups , I think Syro- Malabar church has changed the most, really saddened, there is practically almost no difference between Latin Churches liturgy and Syro-Malabar, we are just forgetting our rich heritage, patronizing European saints and culture is not bad, but it should not be by stamping and forgetting our own centuries old traditions and culture. Naming our children with European Christian names won't make them European .

@That_one_introvert.

8 ай бұрын

Exactly The Christians of Malabar used an ancient Syriac Liturgy. They preserved ancient manuscripts of the Peshitto version of the Scriptures. They knew nothing of “the Latin Obedience,” the Latin liturgy, or the Latin scriptures. Skirting the vast realms of heathenism that lay back of them, they were witnesses for the true scriptures and the gospel of the Son of God now they are following the Latin religion.

@deepthipv4689

8 ай бұрын

Syro Malabar Catholic Church still follows East Syriac liturgy . All catholic denominations have some common and mandatory part to be followed, which makes them catholic. In our liturgy, there are lots of differences when comparing with the Latin Mass. But the thing is, the new songs which our choir sing makes us confuse. In Latin Mass also , choir sings songs from the same malayalam albums. Actually we have our own prayer songs for all parts of the Qurban. But Choir don't sing that. In our Church, we had a very Holy priest as vicar. He conducted a meeting during Lent time and told us that he got a revelation from our Lord ,that we should sing all Qurbana songs and that was written by very Holy person observing fasting and prayers. Our Choir leader requested to sing new album songs for Easter and then will stop. But our Vicar strictly said no. We are only allowed to sing album songs for Entrance, Holy Communion and Last song. In our Church, East Syriac songs and prayers are said occassionally. In Mandya diocese ,some churches uses Syriac language prayers regularly. I have heard that in Thrissur, some churches , catechism kids also sings Syriac songs during Qurbana. My Mother says that during her Childhood, all prayers was said in Syriac language. It gradually changed.

@That_one_introvert.

8 ай бұрын

@@deepthipv4689 Not in the way the original followers did.

@rohangeorge4186

5 ай бұрын

west syrian foloowed by jacobites are far more close to east syrian liturgy than the liturgy used by syro malabar which is heavily influenced and edited by rome@@deepthipv4689

Proud to be a Syro Malabar Catholic, We still follow East Syriac liturgy❤

@deepthipv4689

5 ай бұрын

@@rohangeorge4186 What is the meaning of Syro Malabar?

@RohanGeorge-qv2hg

5 ай бұрын

Syrian church of malbar and syro is a latin term and it is the latjn churvh which named you syro malabar.​@@deepthipv4689

@aforalan2305

4 ай бұрын

​@@deepthipv4689 syro Malabar is a independent chatholic church formed in 1923

@aforalan2305

4 ай бұрын

No syro Malabar is not using traditional east Syriac liturgy. They had used it long years ago . No they are using Latin liturgy translated to Malayalam and Syrian

@deepthipv4689

4 ай бұрын

@@aforalan2305 No. Syro Malabar Church uses East Syriac liturgy, Liturgy of Mar Addai and Mar Mari, Qudasa of Theodore, Quadasa of Nestories. We as an Eastern catholic Church, accepts the catholic teachings and so outsiders may feel same as Latin Church. But it isn't. I know very well about my church and Liturgy. In 1923, we became officialy fully autonomous sui iuris within catholic Church.

A very good article which give a true picture of how catholic came to Kerala and persecuted Syrian Christians and l become predominant in Kerala. ❤

Can you provide references for the things mentioned in the video. Thanks

I read ,Saint Thomas was a Jew.

It is true that as a catholic....even in Malaysia, we do not have even mention of indian saints and there are no churches named after them or even any other asian saints. Yes it seem that white skin prevails as Saint Mother Theresa is more profound although the earlier Indian saints have practiced and preach superb values.

@Saints_ravenfortheRainbow

3 ай бұрын

The Saints aren't known to them or something. If Saint Isaac of the Kiev caves wasn't possesed but still needed Saint Anthony to pray over him after an encounter with demons..churches are turning people away in need of help from them because it's not "possession" in the usa. I pray for india. We need them too. Beautiful. Suprised and happy gujarati patidar findings in my lineage.

Wow!

Goa Inquisition is a must read

So am I.

SURIYANI 💛🦅♥️

The present original Nasranis , I am not talking about the new latin catholics, are actually the World's ancient and original living Jews who are to be still living in Kerala, they are compartively much fairer than the 'original jews' also called as 'black jews of kerala', perhaps due the middle eastern and Aryan admixture later to their community, the saddest part is that many people of this community has forgotten its rich roots .

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As is always the case unless brother turns against brother for money or power, no outside power can enter.

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Though I previously had no knowledge of these horrendous things,I am not surprised as I know well the hiddeous history of the roman catholic church hierarchy in europe.Especially to my people the jews.My family origins sephardi jewish refugees who were forced to flee the inquisition in Spain and Portugal escaping to the Ottoman Empire.I myself came to believe in Yeshua Ha-Mashiach ! = Jesus as The Christ some years ago.I am now 74,but I never joined a church as I live as a messianic jew.An observant jew that believes in Yeshua Ha-Mashiach ! Had I lived back in the inquisition years and been caught by them there can be no doubt as to what they would have done to me.

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To know more about the original LAST KERALA SYRIAN CHRISTIAN BIBLE and its journey from its heartland in Malabar, (southern INDIA) to the Vaults in the Cambridge Library, England. follow this link to watch full video : kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmatwdiFgriWlaQ.html

I’m a Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Christian we’re also under the same Oriental family branch as the Malankara Orthodox Church, Armenian Orthodox Church, Coptic Orthodox Church, Eritrean Orthodox Church and Syriac Orthodox Church originated from Jerusalem the true foundation of Christianity established by Jesus Christ himself and we’ve (Oriental branch) has faced persecution ever since by our own people and Europeans so let us all understand that we Ethiopians, Indians, Armenians, Egyptians and Syrians are all one powerful people under Christs dominion. So plz don’t allow your own people to turn us racist against each other, intimidate us or change our faith. Selah 🙏🏾

Iam Catholic from india

Brahmins came from andhra and karnataka in the 8th century nasranis came i the 1st century. When the nasranis came there were no brahmins or nayars. The wedding customs were adopted by brahmins from the nasranis nit the other way around cos these same customs are followed by Ethiopian orthodox church

Valuable historical information in the vital process of DECOLONIZATION and the RECLAIMING of Indigenous values. The mechanized voice does serious injustice to the value of this video, which would greatly benefit from a natural human voice delivering buried historical truths.

Invaded catholic group of Portugal and Pope destroyed the base of Nasrani Christians.

The title of the two Syrain Catholic churches are Syro Malankara and Syro Malabar.. Its pronounced (SEERO) and not (ZEERO) as most people wrongly pronounce it. SYRO is short form of Syrian. Proud to be a Syrian Malankara Catholic.❤❤❤

Mar Aphrem church

I wish the old united Nasrani church, unifies itself as one again and stays as an independent church like the Egyptian coptic church or the ethopian church, its a shame that instead of being proud and knowing about ones rich roots, majority of the Nasranis want to continue to be slaves of the white european pope whoose catholicism has destroyed this ancient church and its traditions not only materiallistically, but also from our memories.

As a convert to Coptic Orthodoxy, I'm interested in all of the Oriental Orthodox Churches. I'm glad that I left Western "Christianity", as it has alot of blood on it's hands.

I have often heard people saying this that , why would St.Thomas only convert brahmin families, It should be clearly understood that if St.Thomas did come to India , it was in search of Jews living in Muziris(Kerala) as he himself was an Aramic jew, and once he found jews living in Kerala, some of them would have acquanited him with the some local middle eastern traders, Brahmins and Buddhists, who were probably the only civilized ones who could atleast try to communicate, with St.Thomas maybe with the help of local translators , as this is a scene taking place about 2000 years ago . The majority other people ,(majority of who were later termed lower castes)who would have been tribals perhaps were living deep inside the Malabar hills and forests (imagine just like today's Sentinelse tribes), and even St. Thomas would have even tried to communicate with the others but found it is of vain and may be in such an encounter in Mylapore he was speared down . Hence, I think the video is very accurate in describing that the Early converts would have been only Malabari Jews, Brahmins, Buddhists and some civilized natives, it was definitely not because he was biased ,as he would not even know the caste system, but , only those were the only ones, perhaps to whom he could have tried to communicate.

Roman pope & teams (via Portuguese )destroyed & split our nasrani Syrian community 😟😟

ROMAN INQUISITION.

മലങ്കരസഭാദ്ധ്യക്ഷൻറെ അരമന ലേലത്തിൽ വാങ്ങി കത്തിച്ച് ചാമ്പലാക്കിയ ടീംസ്... ഇന്ന് എങ്ങോട്ട് തിരിഞ്ഞുനിന്ന് കുർബ്ബാനചൊല്ലണമെന്നുപറഞ്ഞ് തമ്മിലടിക്കുന്നു 😏

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