Can you just imagine how a medical operator who is already doing a *really* stressful job under time pressure feels when they have to speak a *foreign* language in *their* own country?!

It's nice when people can speak the same language as you but when you're in another country don't expect people to cater to you.

It's Portugal, and people speak Portuguese, the fifth most spoken language in the world. If you're interested in living in Portugal and take advantage of the health care and school systems, I suggest you learn the language. Until then bring an interpreter. Ireland is a lovely country and they speak English so it may be a better choice for you. Go to Spain or France and try to speak English with them in a store or a clinic, then let us know how it went. I have tried, and was mistreated. (Good thing I speak Spanish and French...) Good luck.

@Fegga1955

Ай бұрын

Greece would be a choice.Greeks are very helpful to foreigners.But quite expensive in cities

Welcome to my country! I hope you 3 have an excellent year to come!

I appreciate you guys so much, Josh and Kalie. Thank you for keeping it real for us. I really like how your videos are/seem unrehearsed. It refreshing to see and hear your responses to each others’ thoughts and feelings! 💚

I can relate with my experience of how frustrating it was when I moved to the US and couldn’t speak English, because every important information (including immigration papers) wasn’t in my native language, of course. It was my responsibility to learn the language here to get ahead. Does Portuguese people look down on you when you can’t speak their language ? Because here in America that is the case, generally. Unless you constrain yourself to a community here who speak your native language, and that’s not good. Thank you for your channel giving all this so valuable information about your experiences in that beautiful country 😊

@hasppl9005

Жыл бұрын

I’m surprise you said that Americans look down on you because you didn’t speak English. I never felt that way. I always met people who were very helpful and said “your English is good “. I remember when I started to work for bank and for 3 days we had cake and coffee for customers. I was told to serve cake and coffee with smile. People were asking me “what is the occasion?” And I couldn’t answer because it was so hard to pronounce “anniversary “😄 so I pointed on the sign on the wall.

@loupgarou5797

Жыл бұрын

Gosh no, Portuguese people have at least 300 other reasons to look down on you. Kidding! Wait, am I? That's the thing, they never let you know what they are really thinking!

@georgekaraspyros3835

Жыл бұрын

...they really don't look down on anyone, Portuguese people are the coolest people you'll ever meet and they're really helpful. To be honest with you, if you intend to move there you should really make an effort and learn all the basics. I am Greek living in Britain for over 22 years myself, traveled to over 45 countries and I can tell you this, you'll never find cooler and more hospitable people than the Portuguese.

@daneenking1219

Жыл бұрын

@@loupgarou5797 brilliant 😂

@Fegga1955

Ай бұрын

@@georgekaraspyros3835 agree fully,necessary to learn country's language everywhere in the wolrd.GFReeks are very helpful to foreigners,young people speak English.LOvely you shared comment,good luck

Congratulations on two years! And thank you for this honest reflection of your experiences in Portugal. It’s greatly appreciated and helps a lot when trying to paint a picture from afar of what life might be like there, especially for a family with young kids (I have 3 little ones).

It's so important to consider both the positives and negatives of living in a different country, and how it fits into that stage of your life. In my 30's, I worked and lived in big cities in Asia and loved the fast pace, convenience and exotic cultures. Now that I'm in my 60's and retired, I appreciate a slower lifestyle and familiarity like being able to get things done just speaking English.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the message, Linda. You get it. We needed to add balance to our video offerings as most of them are very, very positive. - Josh & Kalie

@tomasazevedo1979

Жыл бұрын

Yes it's so amazing to move to another country and not give a crap about its language lmao

Congrats on 2 years! Your youtube's was a big part in giving me the confidence to move to Portugal. Keep us updated, lol. Love your authenticity!!!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It's very nice to hear that we've played a part. We appreciate the love. - Josh & Kalie

You folks are always giving 100%. It shows and is appreciated. 😊

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Seamus. 🙏 We're trying to over here. 😊 - Josh & Kalie

I really appreciate your comments about the language. When I visited earlier this year I was so surprised at how much English was spoken and I was lulled into thinking easy peasy. I take your point on hospitality vs other services. Maybe not so easy peasy!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Just be aware. 😁 It's not tragic but it could be something you run into. Again, Portugal is 9 out of 113 countries in English Proficiency levels. 1 of 13 with a very high proficiency level. - Josh & Kalie

Complaining about locals not speaking English comes across a bit entitled. I feel instead of that, maybe complain that you haven’t learned as much as Portuguese as you should have after 2 years.

@Kenny-bj2zq

11 ай бұрын

I don't think they were complaining they video was to let Americans know what they will face when they visit or try to retire to Portugal - As far as learning a language for some it's easy for others it is hard and for some people even though they can understand and speak they never really feel comfortable doing it

@tajislalah6110

9 ай бұрын

Right?! It’s like saying that Americans should learn Spanish bc of the influx of Spanish speaking people to this country. Hard no on a subscription for me

I feel compelled to weigh in because my experience contrasts with regard to some of what you shared. For example, I recently had a bit of an emergency in my apartment and needed a plumber. I was so amazed to find a company in Porto where not only the person handling appointments but the plumber himself, speaks English. I couldn't get over it. They were very courteous and took care of my problem within one day. Also, with regard to healthcare, I have been navigating the system lately using my private insurance. I have had appointments with different specialists, all of whom speak English and I am amazed at how efficient and functional the system is here. I was able to schedule and be seen within a very short time for non-urgent procedures. In some cases, I have been seen the same day I schedule or the following day. I have not had to wait more than 2 weeks to be seen in other cases. Test result turn around time has been remarkably fast as well. With regard to the public system, I know there are glitches, long wait times, inability to get a doctor assigned which has convinced me not to surrender my private insurance which is a lot less expensive than it would be in the U.S. in any case. I do agree that it can be nerve-wracking to show up for an appointment at Financas for example, and not be able to communicate in English but there are work arounds for that as well, like mentioning in advance on the portal when you schedule your appointment that you need help in English and/ or showing up with a script already translated in your phone app. My Deepl translator app has solved a myriad of potential communication issues for me in every sector of life here and when you do use whatever limited Portuguese you have learned, people are generally very appreciative and encouraging. Having said the positive stuff, my one BIG concern about living in Portugal is the outrageous tax rates. Even with NHR, I am quite concerned about the added taxes I will be required to pay and I really wish I had taken the time to seriously look into the tax structure here, before making Portugal my home. Thanks guys. Love your content as always.

@sunshineyogini4337

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it’s my concern as well. What happens when NHR goes away after 10 years as resident. Ouch!

@sharilove8780

Жыл бұрын

thanks...very helpful comment.

@lisbondiaries9212

Жыл бұрын

Nice to see you have some good things to say about our country. As for tax rates, they aren’t “outrageous”…you make more and you pay more. It is a progressive taxation system. That is how it should be. All the benefits citizens and immigrants get from the country, like public healthcare, very low tuition for universities and much more is paid for by taxes. If you have NHR, I am not sure why you are saying you are going to pay a lot still. The highest tax rate will be 11% for income outside of Portugal and 20% for income made in Portugal. How is that high??? Americans pay much higher. You are paying a fraction of what Portuguese citizens pay, so really, I am not sure how you think this rate is bad or the tax break you are getting isn’t a good thing. A suggestion…don’t complain about getting this tax break in front of Portuguese people. Many of our people make very little and will pay a much higher percentage than you.

@2clarityin30

Жыл бұрын

@@lisbondiaries9212 - Thank you. I suppose I have to go through my 1st year of filing taxes here before I understand the system and how it will affect me. I still have a lot of questions about my tax situation for the 1st ten years I spend in Portugal and beyond ten years as well.

@lisbondiaries9212

Жыл бұрын

@@2clarityin30 It is important to find a good accountant, but yes, we do have to pay taxes 😁. At least here, our taxes go more to social services and social program than to the military industrial complex like in the U.S.

Two Years! Wow! Congrats! 🥂 I'm sure that time flew by! 3 years from now you'll look back at where you are now with great nostalgia. So very happy to know you and share this incredible City with you. A million thanks for the priceless information and inspiration.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, thank you, thank you! We appreciate the comment and knowing you too. 🙏 - Josh & Kalie

Appreciate this perspective that there are still challenges. Cheers to you both.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting, Robin. We appreciate your support. - Josh & Kalie

Really Great video guys. these are the kinds of insights that other potential expats will value. Thanks!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. 🙏 We appreciate it when people get what we're trying to do and drown out the haters. 😁 - Josh & Kalie

It is heartwarming to hear such honesty... and you filmed this on the island where my family originated! I visited Sao Miguel for the first time in June 2022 and am ready to return. I am also working on citizenship and Portuguese skills, and the pace of things here is just part of the texture.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Dean! We now know where your accent comes from. 😊 We hear it now. - Josh & Kalie

Great video. You are both so natural on camera. It feels like getting advice from a good friend.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, David. We've had a lot of practice on camera but also we do feel like we're talking to you while we're on camera. - Josh & Kalie

I love watching and listening to you both. When I was younger I dreamed of living in another country, but now at 65 with some health and mobility issues I feel that it would be difficult. I'm glad you and your daughter are healthy and have no problems walking everywhere, even pushing a stroller uphill as I saw you do in one of your videos when you were apartment hunting. You both have such a wonderful energy about you.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tina! Pushing that stroller is keeping us young and growing our thighs. - Josh & Kalie

We celebrate our 1 year anniversary in Portugal tomorrow. We have followed you since before we even arrived and we appreciate your variety and wide coverage of many topics. In Bureaucracy, we have found that taking a native Portuguese that speaks good. English helps tremendously. Particularly if they don’t accept no for an answer. For meeting Portuguese, our friends who live in small villages have been very warmly welcomed and embraced with garden produce, friendship and partiesl

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Congrats on 1 year in Portugal! Thanks for following us. 😁 Those that live in towns and villages will likely find it easier to meet Portuguese. That's a really common thing we hear and have experienced just in our travels. Great job, Bob and Viv. - Josh & Kalie

It’s good that you both give your honest opinion about living in Portugal.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. 🙏 We appreciate it. - Josh & Kalie

Hey I must say that the sound quality of this video is so good even though it was filmed outdoors, so I appreciate that your videos are improving with time!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Paola! This one was tricky. There's a quite a bit of cleaning to do and we had to remove some windy moments. 🤣 - Josh & Kalie

Great content thanks for giving clear n honest feedback!

Thanks for sharing your personal insights! And about exploring new places? It's all about adventure. Right? Love you guys!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the love. ❤️ Any suggestions? - Josh & Kalie

Thanks thanks thanks for your video! As a portuguese that lives in the US, I have the same struggles, but on reverse: with everything being TOO FAST and not well thought out. We also struggle with making american friends 😢

I enjoyed your content. Thank you for your honesty.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

🙏 Thanks, Scooter. We make videos for you. - Josh & Kalie

I appreciate your honesty guys and I really understand you. We've emigrated to Canada, lived in Calgary for about 2,5 years and now moved back to Romania. There is no such thing as perfect country or place to live. There are some things things that are better here, and some things better in Canada. But yes, Europe is different in many ways than North America and if you want to live here, you gonna love and accept it. And yes we all got to pick our battles aren't we? Congratulations!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input, John. It's really interested to read about your time as an expat in Canada. We'd love to hear more. Why'd you end up leaving? Was it job related or something else? - Josh & Kalie

@FooTech1976

Жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere As a Canadian, I can confidently say they either left because of the weather or the cost of living!! 🤣

Thanks for another great video!!!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie

Two years, wow, congrats!! Look forward to seeing at least another 2 more years worth of Portugal videos. :) p.s. sweet background there in the Azores, nice!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tom. We loved the place we stayed in the Azores (short-term rental in Sete Cidades). - Josh & Kalie

I dig your videos. Keep em coming!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will do. 💪 - Josh & Kalie

I really appreciated your perspective and honesty. Maybe a few more like this video really helps many who are looking at Portugal as a retirement location.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the message. - Josh & Kalie

Congrats on reaching 2 years!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Rhea! - Josh & Kalie

Tbf as a portuguese that lived in other countries abroad, it is quite a difference to be able to afford alternative channels that locals can't. None of those are real issues per se if you have the means. Which leaves not fluently speaking the native language as the only inconvenience. Personally to learn a few words and sentences is good enough in the first couple of years to show that you care. Beyond that...let's be honest, the only portuguese you'll meet are digital nomads like myself or people that own a local business. Expat lifestyle is a deterrent for many locals especially if you're of a certain age and also starting a family. Local families that earn little (and that's the majority) won't feel comfortable near expats to the poing of meeting in each other houses or going out. Chances are that you will meet people in their 30s still living with their parents - crazy rents! - or discouraged knowing that they won't be able to spend the day in a nice place because it's too expensive or that their house is not spatious enough. You're worlds apart from the local majority's lifestyle and that can only be mitigated if you do speak the language fluently, so yeah in the end it's a necessity.

@duanefoster3334

Жыл бұрын

excellent comment anyone considering or already moved to Portugal should understand.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

It's not unique to Portugal though. It's very much like this everywhere, but also slightly job dependent. For example in Singapore, when we had our 9 to 5, it gave us a time frame to connect to Singaporeans better than our current schedule. Great comment. Thanks for taking the time to write it. - Josh & Kalie

Congratulations guys. Hope all the best for u 3. Enjoy Portugal it is a paradise. 😊

Great video. And love the nuance you brought here. See you in Portugal in 2023.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! We appreciate the love. See you in Portugal. Let us know when you're going to be here. - Josh & Kalie

This is a very realistic and honest reflection of the other side of slow paced living, and what one can expect in Portugal. It helps to thwart the denial phase of disappointment, which is huge in managing emotions. Thanks for sharing your truth, it is necessary and appreciated. You guys rock!❤

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

You get it, Mo! This was the point of the video. Thank you for watching and commenting. - Josh & Kalie

Thanks for the insights! Loved living there and would second all you described in the video. Not the reasons we left but we definitely experienced what is reflected in the video. Miss you guys tons!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. We love and miss you both! Look forward to linking up again somewhere in the world. Stay in touch. - Josh & Kalie

@jenna7060

Жыл бұрын

Wendy , can you share why you decide to leave ? I am debating whether to go to portugal or south of spain

@wendyeric6980

Жыл бұрын

@@jenna7060 Of course. Portugal is perfect, frankly. We knew we would miss family. But “knowing” it and “feeling” it are two different things. If our families lived on the east coast or in Europe we would still be there. Loved Portugal!!! Loved the people there, both natives and expats. It is absolutely worth exploring!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

@@jenna7060 not to speak out of turn but Wendy & Eric are friends from Porto. They left due to personal family reasons and moved back to be closer to grand babies and aging parents. - Josh & Kalie

My wife and I have enjoyed your KZread videos. We also purchased two of your courses on moving to Portugal. We received our D7 visa and are waiting for our SEF appointment which is scheduled for next June. We also purchased a condo in Granja and have recently moved in. Our condo is a mess because we have suitcases all over the place in our efforts to unpack. We gleaned a lot of information from your KZread videos and the two courses we purchased from you. We hope to see you around the area as we adapt to our new culture. Take care.

Thanks for this wonderful video n for sharing your lovely experience living in Portugal.

@Yasin_Affandi

Жыл бұрын

I always feel that there r always goods n bads, ups n downs, pros n cons wherever u live in d world n that includes where we come from. But in different terrains of d world, u meet different people, see different places, eat different food, experience different art n cultures, different cost of living, enriching your life.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

That's just it, Yasin. Things are different and there's positives and negatives to everywhere. - Josh & Kalie

@Yasin_Affandi

Жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere Yes, making d best from all situations. 😁

Totally resonated with your comments about opening up the world for Cia. Yes for 5 years at least!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

We're excited about the prospect of it. - Josh & Kalie

I think you are spot on mentioning bureaucracy and health care system. I think bureaucracy is the biggest issue as it slows down our economy development. I hope the government can some day focus on fixing these problems. Thanks for the content. Love it.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the love. ❤️ No where it perfect, right? Portugal is great for us though and we're really happy here. - Josh & Kalie

Good video you two I enjoyed it very much

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏 - Josh & Kalie

Thank you guys for sharing! ❤🙏 Can relate a lot to this and what a relief of a rminder as well how lucky I was to already be speaking English on a good level when moving to Canada. At least that was not an issue in most cases.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure! Thank you for sharing about your journey. - Josh & Kalie

Another great vid guys, thank you! I just recently discovered your channel and I'm loving it! My wife and i are seriously considering retiring early abroad and thanks to your channel and some others, Portugal is definitely at the top of the list of places. It looks so beautiful there. and coming from Canada, I think the weather would be AMAZING! lol I haven't had a chance yet to get through all your videos, so sorry if you've already shared this but I'm just wondering what you both do for work? Like do you have physical 9 to 5's, or do you work completely online? And if so, what do you do? Of course if you don't feel comfortable sharing, I totally understand. Keep up the great work and stay safe!

Great video as always guys! Also love that you were able to make it to the Azores, been waiting on that video : ) Have you been living there with a car? If not, have you been finding it difficult to get around? Ill be making my scouting trip to the Azores soon.

Really appreciate the honest, balanced feedback.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Lionel. We appreciate that you get what we're trying to do with this video. - Josh & Kalie

We set up an urban sketching group to meet locals and foreigners. We meet every two weeks to sketch and connect.

@davidramstad1213

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a terrific idea

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome! How big is the group? Please put the details here if you'd like. - Josh & Kalie

Your videos are so packed with great information. One of the top reasons I want to move to Portugal is the affordable healthcare. You bring up very valid points. It may be affordable, but maybe not accessible at the speed you want or need it. Thanks.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! - Josh & Kalie

We guys finally made our first trip to Portugal starting at Lisbon for 6 days followed by Madeira for 3 days and landed in Porto on Monday. Was looking for you in the streets in Bolhao hoping to see you shooting some videos. So far we liked Madeira and Porto in that order but Porto seems to be a more happening place. Love Porto.

@ Josh & Kaily Congratulations on completing two years stay in portugal! I have been watching your videos right from your D7 application process! Well please make a video on renewal of TRP after yr second year.

Thank you

Hi after 15 years travel around the world i can say Portugal is one of the best places, also Spain and Malasya, but in the Malasya case, they put a very insane Visa requeriments for expats, almost impossible to reach even with very good savings, So Portugal is great cheers

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Definitely one of the best places in the world (for us). - Josh & Kalie

¡Gracias!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

De nada, Seamus. Thank you for the channel support. - Josh & Kalie

Maybe bureaucracy is slow for expats. For portuguese people it is a very well oiled system. Everything works through an app or online. Knowing a few more countries in Europe, Portugal is very advanced in this aspect. SNS is also very good and its mashing with the private system. You don’t meet portuguese people because maybe you live in a touristic area. Go outside of Lisbon and you’ll get to know just portuguese people.

I've been here almost a year and absolutely understand. I keep getting frustrated by what I perceive to be my lack of personal productivity. I'm wondering if some of it has more to do with the fact I am mostly retired, or does it have anything to do with living overseas. I'm thinking a job provides structure which results in productivity. I'm thinking I need more structure, I'm just not interested in a job. This was fantastic content and I likes the format of sitting outside in a quiet location.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Nice message to read from you, Todd. 😁 I'm glad I'm not the only one. 😅 I knew I wasn't. I see our friends here having the same problem whether they admit it or not. 🤣 We're glad that you liked the format. We had to cut out some stuff when the wind got to be a bit too much and the church bells started blasting. Structure is something we're still working on. It seems like life changes every 6 months for us with a growing daughter that just started school in September. Now, we should have a little more stability. - Josh & Kalie

Important point of view!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. - Josh & Kalie

Happy Anniversary!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Sam! - Josh & Kalie

Thanks!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the love and channel support. You're the best!!! - Josh & Kalie

I am learning Portuguese but you guys are totally right that if medical vocabulary is not in your day to day conversations, you’re going to have a harder time remembering that vocabulary when it’s time to use it. My question is, is English more widely spoken in the private medical sector? I have a spine condition and if I’m in excruciating pain I can’t imagine having to communicate in Portuguese in that moment.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Hi, Kim. Sorry to hear about your spine condition. We're not sure about the levels of English in the private sector. We don't really have enough experience to be honest. We would image that at the private level they'd be able to provide a translate if necessary or bring a medical professional in to speak with you in English, but we're not 100% sure. - Josh & Kalie

@kappa2ou3

Жыл бұрын

Don’t worry about that, Drs. and Nurses speak English.

@zairoart

Жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere my recommendation is to bring an interpreter to a medical setting, to ensure that there are no misunderstandings. Someone fluent in Portuguese and English. Even if your interpreter is not familiar with the medical jargon you'll be able to communicate, explain your concerns and ask questions. I was in Faro Hospital with my brother, waiting for his appointment, when a British elderly gentleman showed up with an exposed colostomy bag. He didn't make an effort to understand the clerk who told him in English 'please sit, I'll be with you shortly.' I interceded. The clerk said to me he doesn't listen. She was familiar with him and would send a nurse to take him... she gave me more information and I repeated to him what she said and explained that a nurse would take him in shortly. He had no appointment, there were 5 people with appointments ahead of him, and the day before going he was told to go see his doctor at the private clinic... but they would take care of him. The elderly man listen to me and was grateful, but then he asked for my phone number to call me when he needs me. I ltold him no, I live in Boston and was visiting my very sick brother (who has passed away since then)...

I’m hoping our transition will be smoother. My wife and I already speak the language and we’re both in our late fifties, so our slowness will blend in with the Portuguese slow pace😆

I am curious what other countries are you considering to expat that? As someone who has not actually made the jump yet to move to PT, but is scouting in the spring.....Always looking for other options and why ......especially from people who have seen the world much more than I have.

I am a slow reactor since I live in Portugal. We also moved here in Aug21 so almost two years and love it so much that we bought a house where we see ourselves for a 20years or so. That doesn't mean we stop travelling but our boys are at school and have also plans to succeed in the things they do. Maybe it is easier to have friends because of our children and the gatherings we have with the other parents. Besides we are active in the sport community were we also have our friends. For sure knowing the language does a lot and pretty hard to learn. With the knowledge of staying here for a long time it is necessary to learn it and communicate in Portuguese.

As an Army "brat", I traveled from Texas to Kansas to Germany to France. Then, I turned ... three. Around the world 1.5 times by age 19, and that, folks, is living, breathing, eating, schooing: not as a tourist. Five years in UK. Seve years in France. Contractor in Venezuela and Scotland. Multiples of moves in USA. And I do not want to retire in USA! Place bores me senseless! I cannot wait to get rid of my car! I love walking Caminos in Spain and figured Portugal is close, less expensive and I love fado guys ..and sardines a plus. Hired Atlantic Bridge as my D7 paper shuffler and aiming to rent a modest T1, furnished and all mod cons, in Coimbra-ish.. Here's y'alls catch: you are too young to settle down. You still have dirt out there in this big world you want to put under your feet. And, you have a child to school. Army brats had no choice: Oklahoma to VietNam. Kansas to Germany. Paris to Virginia. We said our farewells one day and our hellos the next. But you do not have the (luxury) of a military infrastructure supporting you: you support you. The settling-in honeymoon is over. You do face a challenge: meet it with an asolute commitment to harmony, matrimonial transparency and eyeball to eyeball love. Otherwise, it shall be an unhealed sore, too frequent silences, an infrquency of trust. Consider, reflect, decide and do. Peace out!

Although I left the country a long time ago and haven't visited in almost two decades, I know it has changed tremendously (for the better) since my childhood. However, I also know that regardless of what happens, you cannot take the Portugueseness out of the Portuguese. We're just the way we are, so anyone visiting is just kind of stuck dealing with us. We are stubborn and difficult like our beloved burros 🤭

It's funny how native English speakers expect everyone to speak English. In tourist places, this might even make sense. However, in everyday matters it would not be mandatory. Therefore, if someone intends to live abroad, it is essential to learn the local language, at least for the most common everyday situations. The language is just the first step to integrate with the locals and begin to understand the culture of the new country. Then, it is necessary to be more open to new experiences.

@austinorphan6688

Жыл бұрын

The language of Portuguese is spoken in Portugal. You American egocentrics have a hard time understanding that.

@vmoses1979

Жыл бұрын

Nobody can learn a language fluently in a few years. It would be nice in the globalized world we live that people understand human communication is made better by giving a foreigner a break.

Thanks for the video. Always enjoy your work. Do you think having a health care concierge would help with the system?

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Thank you. It could certainly help but at some point like us, you'll want to try to do it yourself. You know? Kalie thought she had it, and didn't. 🤣 - Josh & Kalie

@grant5059

Жыл бұрын

Hi. What does a healthcare concierge cost? Thanks

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

@@grant5059 I'm not sure what Serenity charges right now. It was around $10 a month but we're not sure right now. Some insurance companies have built in concierges to their offering so it's included in whatever you normally pay. - Josh & Kalie

Great info. Regular life as it differs from the USA, …do you use pay via credit cards or cash? …banking international or local? …online shopping safe or “lost” shipping? …dependable construction workers showing up (for when you buy property)? Health insurance costs (and dental/vision)? Paying taxes? Dependable utilities like electrical grid, internet, drinking water? Are you taking Portuguese speaking classes in Portugal? Would you consider Valencia, Spain?

I am really curious about the lifecycle of the expat. it seems like within 3 years 50% of us move on. I cant find stats for this. Have you? If you compare how you felt 18 months ago to how you feel today, it's surprising, right? Maybe we dont want to know too much about how quickly we will want to resettle, bc the excitement that comes with the first year is needed to power through all the changes and challenges. This is my 40th residence. Ive done this a bunch. But as I get older, I have less and less motivation to pack up and start all over from scratch. Of course it's never really from scratch, bc you learn so much about yourself and it should help you navigate the next move and avoid some of the frustrations.

I have ALWAYS been a slow eater. So slow, my family members would leave me alone at the table. In traveling to Europe, it was one thing I loved, oh, can now eat slow for real. 😊

I understand your frustration but I think you are very brave and lucky to live in Portugal. Despite the burocracy there is a sense of calm that you won’t get in Spain or Italy. If you come up north like Ireland you will have to face different kind of problems. Fair play to yous and all the best. ❤

@ExpatsEverywhere

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Thanks, Rosa. Don't get us wrong, we feel completely blessed to be here. We used to live in Spain and we agree, the bureaucracy is worse for sure. 😅 - Josh & Kalie

There is a japonize girl living in Portugal that explained very well the making friends here in Portugal in her video 1st we hug 2º then we step back 3º then we sloooooooowly start to hug again (and it's not easy to break that 2º barrier) I think what happens is that we think foreigners are here on vacation or little time, so you are kinda exotic to us, so that's easy to hug, and we think you are going away. But if we realize you are staying... we might think "wait a minute I don't know this person very well" so we might step back and then take time, and time will slowly give me the idea of what type of person you are. I don't find it strange that expats mingle with each other. It's just because there is a common life situation and they end up being friends with each other, that's completely normal.

I thought this was a fair and balanced presentation from an expats point of view. I’m glad I watched it. Some viewers (their comments) read too much into this video. Keep up the good work!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

😉 You clearly get it. 😁 We appreciate hearing this feedback. 💪 Thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie

so please tell me which country is "perfect" so i can move there.

I really enjoyed your video as my wife and I are starting our search in our late 50's from here in the US, at possible places to retire to. The one thing that makes me nervous to hear is about the healthcare industry and the bureaucracy. What happens when you need surgery for something? Do they slow walk your care and treatment? That's the one major are of concern for me now.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Bruno. The answer really is, it depends. Porto and Lisbon have some great infrastructure but the more remote you go, the more challenging it can become. Overall, Portugal's healthcare it great. Check out our video on emergency situations. It sounds like you'll find a lot of value in it. - Josh & Kalie

Hi: In June 2021, after a 4 year search to relocate in Portugal, I run into this channel showing apartments to rent in Coimbra and Coimbra as a city. I rented one of them for 2022. This mchannel ade a video on what is now my balcony in Coimbra in a yellow building. Since December 2021 it´s my home and I rented the appartment for a year more, 2023. I´m back again in Tigre in Argentina to settle things in December and will be back in Coimbra the 27th of December. New year may be Funchal? I´m afraid of mudslides in Funchal under the "banana line" (200 m above sea level), but also of volcanos in Azores. I think now you can compare Azores and Madeira. We have to meet in Porto! Thank you & greetings!

@ExpatsEverywhere

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We hope to see you at a meet up in 2023! Thanks for continuing to watch, Teo. - Josh & Kalie

@teodoro1007

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@@ExpatsEverywhere Yes, i have to learn urgently this matter of underwater basketweaving! 😅

Small tip: if you are anywhere that isnt a hotel, airport etc, dont start blasting in your native or english language. ASK first if they speak it. You will be amazed. I work in a market and i hate when people assume i speak english. Its incredibly rude.

Q for Kalie: one of my go to ways to build community & tribe as a woman (esp over the yrs when I was a traveling corp consultant) is yoga; i always find this a super welcoming & down to earth group of folks…are there yoga studios in the Portuguese isles that you have noticed at all? You may consider trying it if so - its a whole segment of the population that typically spans generations & has big open hearts wherever you go… xoxo (Ps I’m also a yoga teacher & have thought of teaching in retirement wherever we land… = )

I bought the Timekettle Translation earbuds solely for the purpose of medical use. An emergency in Spain helped me make the sleep to get these. Take a look. I am on day 3 and wow.

@lindadorman2869

Жыл бұрын

These look really interesting, thanks for sharing!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Sounds cool, Jeff. - Josh & Kalie

You need to come back to the DMV bro

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

🤣 Point taken. Although my last DMV experience wasn't bad at all. It was over 10 years ago thanks to online renewals. - Josh & Kalie

great.

@ExpatsEverywhere

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Thanks! - Josh & Kalie

What other places are you guys considering?

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Nowhere seriously. We won't allow ourselves because every time we do, we find a way to move. 🤣 - Josh & Kalie

Hey guys! Congrats on 2yrs in Portugal!!. I've been watching and learning about the country thru your videos for about 8mos...great content!!! Since you brought up the language, are you still taking "Portuguese with Carla" courses? I tried connecting to take her courses but I haven't been able to connect. This could be because I'm a Florida resident who have some internet issues since the last "two" hurricanes😳🥴!! I looked for Carla's latest videos and saw only one recent video and the lady didn't look like the same lady in previous videos! I'm retired and very interested in the Algarve. Do you think expats in that area feel the same frustration in encountering non-English speaking natives? Wishing you guys the very best...wherever you are in the world!!!

@Luckyamor

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Algarve has many foreigners such as English, Germans and Nordics and the level of English is much higher than the rest of Portugal as it is a tourist area Algarve has many foreigners like English, Germans and Nordics and the level of English is much higher than the rest of Portugal as it is a tourist area and many retirees from northern Europe

@NRSmith

Жыл бұрын

@@Luckyamor I appreciate your info. Thank you for the reply! It is helpful.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Hi, N R Smith. Thanks for watching. We're still using Portuguese with Carla and making good progress. We did have a period where we didn't find enough time to study but we're back to 30 minutes or so a day. Try this link journey.portuguesewithcarla.com/offer-collab/?ref=7 to join The Journey. Regarding Algarve, the comment that I pulled and showed in the video was someone having an issue at a hospital in Algarve. In the service/hospitality industry, it's going to be super high levels of English, but outside of that, it could be the same issues as discussed in the video although let's be honest, it's not issues you run into everyday. It's like once a month kind of stuff. - Josh & Kalie

@NRSmith

Жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere I appreciate you taking the time to reply. You guys are the best and such an inspiration! I will definitely use the link you sent me for Carla! I plan on a 3-4 week visit to Portugal beginning March 24, 2023!! I want to have a few lessons b4 arriving there! I have played your video (at least 1000 times) where you met Carla and her husband at the park and answered her questions in Portuguese! It's great practice for me.😊 I will email you with a couple of questions...on several subjects.🙄🤭 I might have to book consultation time with you...your time/knowledge is valuable and your experience is priceless!! Thanks again! Stay positive, remain great and all the best to the entire family!💯🤍

If you have private healthcare insurance the wait times go down and English speaking Drs readily available. It takes 575hrs to become fluent in Portuguese, one of the easier languages to learn. You’ve been there 2 years

Now I'm nervous about permanently relocating from Calif. to Portugal (Algarve area.) We're retired and in our 60's and, I assume, we'd need private healthcare to go along with our aging and age related illnesses that may pop up along the way. I think I'd better start learning Portuguese now. I know the Brazilian Port. is easier to learn/speak. Does it work with the Portuguese bureaucracy? or is that still a huge slow down? I also wonder about caregiving and assisted living needs in Portugal if they arise. You're too young, but do you have any brief insights on that aspect of a permanent move?

@Maria-js9ou

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Sorry to disappoint you, but the option of moving permanently to Portugal, with caregiving and assisted living needs is an absolute NO. In reality, those who take care of the elderly, in their homes or in nursing homes facilities, are people who do not speak English at all - they are poorly paid, with little literary education and there are many, many Brazilian emigrants, originating from a country where the level of English is far below the one that exists in Portugal. If you want to come to the Algarve while still having autonomy this is a good option - you can make friends with English speaking residents, there is a large community of English pensioners. And with regard to communication problems in English in the medical sector, I am surprised, because everyone (younger than 50 ) has studied English for many years, and the doctors certainly know how to have a conversation in English - as for the administrative staff, it can surely happen that the communication is not as fluid as you would like

@alisonb9963

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@@Maria-js9ou Thank you so much for giving me some insight. We're both fine, but we're in our sixties. So, a permanent move now would be fine, I'm just not sure how we'd do aging there. If I learn to speak Portuguese, we should be okay, it's the health care system itself that I'm unsure of. I'm going to have to do some serious research. Take care.

@Nicole-km3bd

Жыл бұрын

If you’re moving to Portugal, then learn European Portuguese. Why would you learn Brazilian? 😂

@alisonb9963

Жыл бұрын

@@Nicole-km3bd I already speak Spanish fairly well, so, I guess the European way would be best. However, "if" I speak Spanish, or Brazillian Port., can I get by?

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Hey Alison, if it's the case of "getting by", English is perfectly fine, but if you want to assimilate, it's best to learn European Portuguese. It's not that hard for English language speakers from an objective point of view. - Josh & Kalie

since you are already 40% of the way and D7 visa (i assume u used) you could just spend 6 mo's of the year in other places and 6 months in Portugal to finish it out if you wanted to stick thru till citizenship for the next 3 years, right? maybe would also help appreciate Portugal a lil extra?

@JonesTravelers

Жыл бұрын

If they are getting the new 3-year renewal it only allows for the same absence period as the 2-year. That is 6 months consecutive, or 8 months interpolated over the 3-year period.

@pures1n

Жыл бұрын

@@JonesTravelers I see! Yeah I'm not well versed on D7. I don't think I would do D7 unless I knew for sure I could stay in Portugal for 8 months/year. I think now that covid-craze is over the want/need for most to get out is a lot higher than ever before.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

We love to travel but Portugal is home so we're not looking at living here part-time and somewhere else part-time. - Josh & Kalie

Been seeing video of the flooding in Lisbon and have heard most of not all of the Portuguese coast is in weather warnings. Hope you guys are ok.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! We're currently in Morocco on a 3 day getaway of sorts. It's the 1st time it's rained here in 4 years according to our taxi driver. - Josh

As a Portuguese ex-pat resident, your video is quite accurate. We love it here, but it's not perfect. But where is? In short, they're a lovely people. PS if we need speedy medical attention for our kids, we go private, although even that takes ten days!

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the message, Jed. Nowhere is perfect and some places fit some people better than others. For example, we could stand the heat/humidity of Singapore and other's can't. It makes a world of difference. - Josh & Kalie

@zairoart

Жыл бұрын

Last Spring I was in Algarve and went to the private clinic without an appointment. In 5 minutes I was meeting with a doctor... All I had was my passport... the nicest people in the world! (I do speak Portuguese.)

@jedw9983

Жыл бұрын

@@zairoart yes, we're in the Algarve too, and usually it took only a day or two to get a private doctor's appointment. Now it's longer, possibly because of staff shortages and also the fact the public system is creaking so they're also going private. Who knows?

Visa process out of San Francisco has been very difficult. I think they are planning on a six week strike just as I am expecting to get it, but I probably won't.

@JonesTravelers

Жыл бұрын

The strike has been called off. Hoping you get your Visa soon.

@desertdweller8520

Жыл бұрын

How do you know it was called off? Where did you get the information?

We are in the process of immigrating to Portugal. We went this past summer to check it out. I can say for sure that immigration is a very personal and emotional process. Good emotions and bad emotions. For sure, it is crucial to learn Portuguese. My wife had to go to the ER and I was pleasantly surprised how well the ambulance dispatcher and the EMT spoke English. But as soon as we arrived at the hospital, nobody spoke English. The doctor was a Russian guy who spoke no English. I had to call our AirBnB host to come help us. But it all worked out and the total bill including the ambulance was only 200 Euros. We should be there in the summer of 2013. So I have been learning Portuguese the best I can. Even though I immigrated to the US when I was 9 and lived in Germany and Austria for two years (and learned German) in my 20s, I still feel a little intimidated by the prospects of moving to Portugal.

@SERGIO-cr6uy

Жыл бұрын

You should be there in the summer "2013“? Have you built a time machine? 😉

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Sergio, that's funny, man. 😁 😅

@_LifeIsGood

Жыл бұрын

When you get to 2013, be sure to buy some Bitcoin and then come find me and tell me to forget about Stephanie. And then force me to buy Bitcoin as well.

@charF9813

Жыл бұрын

I think this type of move is always a bit intimidating because of so many unknowns. Wishing you a successful relocation this summer. I love the videos here as I feel they provide a very honest look at what things are like vs sugar-coating the process. That is what makes these videos most helpful to those considering a move. Love Portugal and our experiences have been very positive as visiting parents to a son who is an ex-pat. He speaks Portuguese, we are beginners to the process as more knowledgeable of Spanish. No matter where we travel we always try to learn as many helpful phrases as possible as I think it is also an important part of the cultural experience. I find that most people in the countries we have visited appreciate the effort though our pronunciation may not be right on target.

4am lines for urgent care that opens at 9. Tell me how great the health care is!

I have been living in China for 25 years, you should come and see how fast people are here. They push you out from a restaurant before you finish your meal for a next customer.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

We've been. :-) - Josh & Kalie

It's nice to travel around the world and make memories but at certain point one must find a place to star a family, make friends and a place that suits your personality, your needs as family ✌🏿

do you have any "why we left the U.S. videos" ?

Strange that no one making these types vids commenting on the language gap never talks about live translation apps. Free and easy to use.

Well, as a german biologist and gardener with some linguistic skills I learned just to stay away from tourists and most expats after staying over 5 years abroad. Most of those people with their attitudes and interests are unbearable for me and I even pretend to not understand English or German when they try to approach me or try to find a tourist guide for free. After studying cultural anthropology too I just feel ashamed how they are imprisoned in their own environmental bubble wherever they go.

@ajdrums8075

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure they are devastated not having such cheerful company such as yours to enrich their lives.

@Carolinapetroska

Жыл бұрын

That's not nice !

I really like this video, it is honest and fair. I struggle a lot with communicating in Portuguese. However, first, when we say "bureaucracy is worse", I believe it really isnt. I think most of those who complain haven't had to experience the bureaucracy associated with being an immigrant anywhere else. I know a lot of would-be immigrants to other, English-speaking countries, and really, here is much kinder, more straightforward, and the desk-officers one meets much much more accomodating. I think too we can't complain that people in public services don't speak English so much. Nor do they speak Mandarin, nor German, nor other languages. Portuguese speaking taxpayer have paid for and built their public services, and it is only fair that Portuguese speakers are employed by them. Portuguese language is an essential feature of living here, like the beaches, the mountains, the food, the weather. We immigrants need to be prepared to learn (and I find it really really hard), but also cost in hiring translators and representatives to deal with public bodies, go to hospitals wih us as part of what we do. No criticism of Expats Everywhere, you are a really helpful inspiration, I love the three of you.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the love, B Cooke. It's no major complaint as some people infer. It's more of a wake up call to those before they move here. A lot of people in the comment section don't get that, but in the end, the video wasn't made for them. We're doing it for the people that don't know and aren't here and maybe realize that if these little things bother them, then they shouldn't move here. In saying that, it's not to discourage but it is to prepare. Again, thanks for the message. 😊 - Josh & Kalie

Thanks as someone that was raised in different countries and now live partially in Portugal, i recognize everything you said. Although i believe you where a bit kind to the healthcare system.

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I didn't think we took a real stand on the healthcare system apart from the language thing. What's your take? Not happy? - Josh & Kalie

@xmaniac99

Жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere Well my experience are based from the Netherlands, Italy and Brazil. I would rate my experiences in Portugal so far below those of the private health care in Brazil, bad to very bad. Absolutely no comparison to the Netherlands or Italy. Although my experiences in those countries are from the late 1990s and I understand healthcare in those countries has also deteriorated. At this point we rather make an appointment at a private clinic in Seville then waste our time at the "University" hospital or the "premium" private clinics. I'd rate public healthcare in Portugal a 4 out of 10. And private healthcare the same, because you pay more you expect more, but it just isn't there. Edit: I should probably mention we are located in Algarve. The situation in other area's is probably different as I understand this region is underserved.

@scottsorenson1859

Жыл бұрын

@@xmaniac99 I think it very much depends where in Portugal you live. For example I often hear people having a poor experience in the Algarve. I live in Lisbon and, for the last three years my family and I have made extensive use of the private hospital systems of Hospital da Luz (Lisboa) and CUF (Tejo and Descobertas). The care has been absolutely excellent, far above our experience in the US. Every doctor we have seen (maybe 20 to 25) have spoken English. Nurses and admissions people at about 75% as well. Again this is Lisbon specific and can be very different elsewhere I am sure. But yes the public system here definitely is stressed and we have not used it except for vaccinations.

hellos, Am suzan and i would like to have an advice from you according to your travel experience so far, which could be the easieet country for a single mum to relocate with her kids please. Looking forward to hearing from you.Thanks

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

Hi Suzan, that's a really packed question. Please feel free to shoot Kalie an email and she'll be able to get a little more information from you to try to help. (Kalie's email address is info@expatseverywhere.com) - Josh & Kalie

It depends where you come from. An hour for lunch is completely normal to me.

You have great plan👍. Having EU and USA passport is great idea. I moved to USA 40 yrs ago and remember how hard it was for the first 3 yrs. After I learned English it was piece a cake. I met wonderful people from my first day in USA. My daughter was born and raised in USA. Went to UConn. Since she had dual citizenship she did her masters in Germany (free education). She decided to move and live in Swiss so I left states. Now I’m planning to move to Portugal for my retirement. I wish you my best. Great video 👍

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

This was such a beautiful message to read. Thank you for taking the time to tell us a little piece of your story. Loved it! - Josh & Kalie

@hasppl9005

Жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere I'm glad you like my little story❤

@ExpatsEverywhere

Жыл бұрын

@@hasppl9005 100% and would like to hear more! 😁