Portra 400 / Fuji Pro 400H Comparison

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In a dramatic turn of events, Jason realizes portra 400 and fuji pro 400h aren't that different after all.
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  • @PrestonTalkZZZ
    @PrestonTalkZZZ2 жыл бұрын

    I'd say the biggest difference between the two films is one is still being produced

  • @PissBoys

    @PissBoys

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mark my words, we’ll see Fuji stop all film production in the next 4-5 years. They’ve already publicly stated their intent to throw all their weight into their medical and pharmaceutical arms.

  • @ignaciotovar6078

    @ignaciotovar6078

    2 жыл бұрын

    This was brutal

  • @jstnhpkns

    @jstnhpkns

    2 жыл бұрын

    I came here to write this!

  • @TheNegative

    @TheNegative

    2 жыл бұрын

    LMAO!!!

  • @thelilcanadiankid

    @thelilcanadiankid

    2 жыл бұрын

    :(

  • @mister-monkeyman
    @mister-monkeyman2 жыл бұрын

    Baxter needs his own show called the Barkroom

  • @Primojay

    @Primojay

    2 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate you a lot for this

  • @mitchellhughes5180

    @mitchellhughes5180

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done

  • @DogsandFilm
    @DogsandFilm2 жыл бұрын

    Baxter's appearances: 1. 00:19 2. 01:53 3. 02:45 4. 04:52 5. 05:54 6. 06:58 7. 07:53 Thanks amigos

  • @joecadzow4482

    @joecadzow4482

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is his channel

  • @Amphibax

    @Amphibax

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tank you

  • @KonSimpl72

    @KonSimpl72

    2 жыл бұрын

    PSA, bruh.

  • @ModernAtomX

    @ModernAtomX

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello again old friend

  • @DogsandFilm

    @DogsandFilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ModernAtomX hello amigo

  • @MrHaydnSir
    @MrHaydnSir2 жыл бұрын

    “especially the reds, oranges, knees and toes” you never fail to make me laugh out loud, genuinely 💛✌️

  • @Notso_Wild_Bill

    @Notso_Wild_Bill

    2 жыл бұрын

    Big grins, he even makes herpes funny.

  • @edshotsdotcodotuk
    @edshotsdotcodotuk2 жыл бұрын

    Wedding photographers loved 400H as the white dress comes out white and not a bit yellow. Honestly that’s it. Everything is just more neutral when it comes to printing. It can be warmed up in post whereas Portra can’t easily be cooled. Worked at labs for over 15 years and had most wedding photographers shoot Fuji on the day and some may go for Kodak for the engagement shoot for that warm vibe.

  • @areallyrealisticguyd4333

    @areallyrealisticguyd4333

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the neutral tones work best with Instax and Provia 100f but seems to be more situational with color negative. Almost always found myself wanting Portra over 400h in like 98% of situations. Still sucks that it's gone and even worse is that it's being price gouged despite Fuji confirming there was enough supply for awhile.

  • @lanycera

    @lanycera

    2 жыл бұрын

    Idk man. I don't think it's just wedding photographers...I genuinely prefer the Fuji tones over Portra, and I mainly shoot portrait and editorial. It's also retains colours so much nicer when overexposing.

  • @edshotsdotcodotuk

    @edshotsdotcodotuk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lanycera of course not only wedding photographers :) they just benefited more than others. I also prefer Fuji's more true to life look preferring Superia 400 for my colour work back in the day.

  • @edshotsdotcodotuk

    @edshotsdotcodotuk

    Жыл бұрын

    @Linda Ultramax 400 may be the closest thing these days. Not as heavy a yellow/warm cast as most Kodak stock. Fuji C200 is now manufactured in the USA so almost certainly made in the Kodak factory and some do believe it's just Gold 200 inside. Yet to see enough results or used it myself to determine what is like exactly.

  • @mattbass
    @mattbass2 жыл бұрын

    I would sell my soul for a video with more comparisons between lab scans and the home scans

  • @jakobmueller2065
    @jakobmueller20652 жыл бұрын

    So sad that 400h is gone, always preferred it over Portra, especially for Darker Skin which Portra often butchers

  • @flannelcommander

    @flannelcommander

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ektar handles darker skin tones much better than 400H. At least in my experience in the studio

  • @MattDueskable

    @MattDueskable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ektar and Pro Image (sadly only 35mm…) are infinitely better than Portra--160 is the only speed that holds a torch

  • @ellielee201
    @ellielee2012 жыл бұрын

    I'm still salty to this day that 400h was cancelled

  • @kleanish

    @kleanish

    2 жыл бұрын

    was the KKK photographed on 400H or something?

  • @ThePhotoDept
    @ThePhotoDept2 жыл бұрын

    As an expert, I have to say this is the best film comparison video ever made.

  • @TheBigpimpballer
    @TheBigpimpballer2 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see Kodak Gold vs Superia. It sucks because right when I found my film stick to use as my work horse, they cut the supply two months later. It is what it is at this point I guess. Ektar is a solid fill in choice I just wish I had different box speeds to start with.

  • @areallyrealisticguyd4333

    @areallyrealisticguyd4333

    2 жыл бұрын

    Superia Premium definitely feels like a solid choice. Doesn't have the green casts like regular superia does but has grain similar to Pro400h. Too bad it's only sold in Japan for some reason

  • @kevlarnegative
    @kevlarnegative2 жыл бұрын

    I must say, It makes sense now. Daniel Milnor made a point on his channel that almost no film is actually rated at box speed but around half a stop or a stop under advertised, so technically overexposing by roughly one stop would mean exposing correctly. (Sorry for my grammar) Thank you for your film sacrifice. For science!

  • @davidm5790

    @davidm5790

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s more nuanced than that. In terms of exposure, dan’s point was more about black and white high iso films. When you shoot film, the light causes a chemical reaction which varies depending on the amount of light and the film negative. Other factors include development chemicals and temperature. So for color film, shooting portra, for example, one or two stops over exposed increases saturation and provides a better rendition for portraits. It isn’t simply about increasing the exposure of the image. The reason why so many people are confused by Dan’s video is because the factors are so varied in the outcome of a film photo that simply reducing it to: over exposing = better, doesn’t explain it well enough (not that he said that)

  • @tiansili

    @tiansili

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, overexposing means exposing for shadows in this case with film latitude preserving highlights.

  • @wilferrero244
    @wilferrero2442 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't be opposed to seeing a comparison between your two favorite b&w film stocks

  • @briglnai

    @briglnai

    2 жыл бұрын

    seconded: Kodak T-Max 100 vs Ilford FP4 plus

  • @BrackDynamite

    @BrackDynamite

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@briglnai a better comparison would probably be delta 100 seeing as FP4 is a classic cubic grained film (like Tri-X, HP5).

  • @gabrielgavalo5601
    @gabrielgavalo56012 жыл бұрын

    Talk technical to me. I love this. Great coverage on both film stocks. Great execution and of course top notch humor. I’m addicted to your videos

  • @JfhuTheJedi
    @JfhuTheJedi2 жыл бұрын

    I'm saving my last Pro 400H for photography in the forest or when I go back up to Oregon. I really like the greens that it produces in a forest.

  • @ai-man212

    @ai-man212

    2 жыл бұрын

    So, you're an Oregon Transplant?

  • @Kevon420

    @Kevon420

    2 жыл бұрын

    swagg.

  • @injeolmi6
    @injeolmi62 жыл бұрын

    I like Thursdays thanks to you, Jason. Thanks.

  • @IllKeepALightOn
    @IllKeepALightOn2 жыл бұрын

    I love the personality that comes through… “… the only way I can feel anything anymore.” Makes the channel more fun and unique

  • @MWigforss
    @MWigforss2 жыл бұрын

    One of the most important questions of our time; Thank you!

  • @orangepeel79
    @orangepeel79 Жыл бұрын

    Just discovered your channel. Photography needs this seriousness. Important work. Well done. 🙃

  • @jameshammond89
    @jameshammond892 жыл бұрын

    love it mate, great stuff

  • @simonpeter8480
    @simonpeter84802 жыл бұрын

    this is exactly what i needed! thank you baxter, i mean jason

  • @KieranJDodd
    @KieranJDodd2 жыл бұрын

    Very cool and informative video Jason, it'd be interesting to see the difference between a scan at home and a lab scan side by side. Keep up the work.

  • @louisrimmer6544
    @louisrimmer65442 жыл бұрын

    It’s so funny the Portra vs pro400h argument. One this I know is that if you live somewhere incredibly green like Wales, or the U.K. more generally, the tones of pro400h pop like firework, even on slightly overcast days. They’re both just so good though

  • @facuaw
    @facuaw2 жыл бұрын

    This is a really good video, i would love to see more like this!

  • @victorprinciotta1250
    @victorprinciotta12502 жыл бұрын

    Jason! Love your videos but no mention or test for the fourth emulsion layer with 400h? It was specifically developed to combat the frequent mixed lighting in Japan (esp. fluorescent light) which is probably why it rendered the night shot better. Also, Kodak was developed with white skin in mind and Fuji with (relatively) browner skin in mind.

  • @madacenyc
    @madacenyc2 жыл бұрын

    That serial killer line had me dying 😂

  • @yinansun6881
    @yinansun68812 жыл бұрын

    Waiting for this for years

  • @themaestro7922
    @themaestro79222 жыл бұрын

    Lots o' work went in to this. Thanks for making me feel I just spent months stuffing my freezer with 400h when i could've stuck with Portra.

  • @nicin9669
    @nicin96692 жыл бұрын

    Hes back finally 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽

  • @alanherbert93
    @alanherbert932 жыл бұрын

    I mean this in a complementary way, Baxter lowkey built like a scantron

  • @artieghosh529

    @artieghosh529

    2 жыл бұрын

    WHAT DOES THIS MEAN

  • @TheCactusTheif
    @TheCactusTheif2 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always, Jason, but when is the video on 110 film?

  • @mannyfigueroa815
    @mannyfigueroa81511 ай бұрын

    You’re so real. Subscribed.

  • @dirtywater5336
    @dirtywater5336 Жыл бұрын

    the subtle, dry humor was appreciated

  • @fatherdeha
    @fatherdeha2 жыл бұрын

    wish every film comparison video was like this exactly

  • @RobbieMaynardCreates
    @RobbieMaynardCreates2 жыл бұрын

    Another awesome video and comparison. I started to come around on Pro 400H now that its dead and gone. Such a damned shame that I was too cool for it when it was here. RIP.

  • @lukemoll2521
    @lukemoll25212 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see HP5 compared with another B&W film (Tri-X?)

  • @Hk843
    @Hk8432 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison! Guess I will be using lomo metropolis

  • @Seimstudios
    @Seimstudios2 жыл бұрын

    This was so good and fun. As someone who makes digital emulations as well as shoots film, I've learned that even the same stock is often so different depending on processing etc. I would also love to see a digital side by side in these scenes as a modern control, but I know you would feel filthy for doing it.

  • @jonnyclark1916
    @jonnyclark19162 жыл бұрын

    This was such a good comparison

  • @acr6715
    @acr67152 жыл бұрын

    Using my lunch to watch this, it's gonna help me get through the day

  • @jamesbarker9774
    @jamesbarker97742 жыл бұрын

    Just picked up a 5 pack of 120 Pro400h to take to Vermont. Really excited it give it a try

  • @Zecamilleo
    @Zecamilleo2 жыл бұрын

    Portra 400 still exists, pro 400h it's just a memory. that's the difference between then.

  • @Zeoklis

    @Zeoklis

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can't even remember his na- I mean film speed

  • @quasarcreator

    @quasarcreator

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got 13 rolls in my fridge, still exists for me..... for now :'(

  • @lemon58421

    @lemon58421

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@quasarcreator Me too ! 4 packs of 5 rolls in the fridge :-) and still good till 2023

  • @SpacemonkeySTI
    @SpacemonkeySTI2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the video!!!!!

  • @birdie399
    @birdie3992 жыл бұрын

    The difficulty with film stock is that every roll is so expensive. You can’t buy film at the supermarket checkout anymore. Thanks for the video.

  • @cathydixon5852

    @cathydixon5852

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunate but true. I try to make those film shots count

  • @BrunoBelcastro
    @BrunoBelcastro2 жыл бұрын

    Nice one mate. I just loaded a roll of Pro 400H into a back and it’s cloudy. So now I know that back will stay out for another day 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @endnami
    @endnami2 жыл бұрын

    miss it so much!

  • @Pilgrxm
    @Pilgrxm2 жыл бұрын

    Found a full box of Pro400H at the camera store the other day, I’m taking it with me from Texas to NY today if this plane will ever take off. Hoping for some cool shit.

  • @szelag
    @szelag2 жыл бұрын

    Really good A/B comparison. Would totally be interested in more of this. How about with... slide film?

  • @Sreybk
    @Sreybk2 жыл бұрын

    I am getting ready to send exposed rolls of Ektar 100, Fuji Superia X-TRA 400 and some Kodak Ultra 400 to The Darkroom. They do good work. Another good video.

  • @nimbarkcj
    @nimbarkcj2 жыл бұрын

    Just wanna say that I'm a big fan of yours

  • @Gneisenau2
    @Gneisenau22 жыл бұрын

    Provia & Ektachrome, both pro level ISO 100 slide films and somewhat famous for their way of blue color rendition. Could be a very interesting comparison.

  • @AselaArt
    @AselaArt2 жыл бұрын

    Great Video! I'd love see an Ektar vs Ektachrome comparison in 120 and 35mm.

  • @ckott99
    @ckott992 жыл бұрын

    I myself have pondered the Big Question. But since I don't have a camera with a swappable film back, the Big Question I couldn't answer. Thank you! But now of course it doesn't matter much. I have a few of rolls of 400H left in my freezer stock. Yes indeed, 'overexpose' (de-rate the exposure index rating) to get the best results, that's been my general experience for color negative film.

  • @DLivingston
    @DLivingston2 жыл бұрын

    I happen to order some Pro400h the day before they made the announcement. It sits in the freezer because I am not much of a fan... Thanks for the comparison though, its nice to see the two side by side here.

  • @chadolson5537
    @chadolson55372 жыл бұрын

    I am happy to see Monica in your video. You should include her more often. Personally, I have found Fuji film to be much better than Kodak, although I shoot both. I shot some black and white Fuji Acros II 100 that looks like digital (very clean) and some regular Fuji Superia x-tra 400 color stuff that looks great that I get at my local lab.

  • @goranpancevo
    @goranpancevo2 жыл бұрын

    0:28 Guy Fieri finally recognized as a philosopher! :) Awesome @grainydays :D

  • @RJGarrish
    @RJGarrish2 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on how you do those cool 3d parallax edits with your photos at the end of your videos?? Ive been dying to find a way to do that!

  • @SergioMusel
    @SergioMusel2 жыл бұрын

    Greener tones of Fuji Pro 400H is probably to make skin look whiter, which is very much sought after in portraits around Asia🤓

  • @gustsmith9188
    @gustsmith91882 жыл бұрын

    So, I finally tried your method of exposing fuji pro 400h at ASA 200 on a couple of rolls. The results were the best I've ever gotten from that film. Too bad I discovered this with only a few rolls left in my freezer. Anyway, great comparison.

  • @Nashvillejasonwain
    @Nashvillejasonwain2 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see a comparison of all the different flavors of portra

  • @arvinchau1030
    @arvinchau10302 жыл бұрын

    Nice comparison. The lab owner told me pro400h is actually a 200iso film. Maybe that’s why shooting at box speed makes its shades grainy. I would say the ture value of pro400h lies on its ability of being pushed to 1600iso and still maintain a relatively neutral color comparing to portra 400/800.

  • @Zorvosnagy
    @Zorvosnagy2 жыл бұрын

    Okay my only question is how you do that zooming effect on the last shoots of this video?! amazing!

  • @filipecostapt6427
    @filipecostapt64272 жыл бұрын

    Fuji Pro 400H is a great film for night or interiors. It would be great to see a video shooting 400H in those conditions, especially shooting only interiores, before it gets completely impossible to buy it at reasonable prices

  • @neonvertigo7710
    @neonvertigo77102 жыл бұрын

    would love to see a comparison between lomo 800 and Portra 800

  • @DLivingston
    @DLivingston2 жыл бұрын

    How about we get a comparison of Portra 800 to Cinestill 800t.

  • @Vangalther

    @Vangalther

    2 жыл бұрын

    kind of obvious

  • @snakeytales

    @snakeytales

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve made one, feel free to check it out.

  • @fotogrami26
    @fotogrami262 жыл бұрын

    I use Kodak Portra 400 Film Simulation on my XT4 because of you. 😁

  • @astragalizont
    @astragalizont2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, the effect on the endcard is so nice, could you tell us the name or the way to do it? Nice comparison thanks for that!

  • @resiyun
    @resiyun2 жыл бұрын

    Nice, you got a REAL Hasselblad back.

  • @rhyanpaul
    @rhyanpaul2 жыл бұрын

    30 years ago it was all about NPH160 and Pro160s - that’s what all my commercial clients wanted. Some days they were lucky if they got Gold100 that had been sitting on the studio window ledge all summer……

  • @technol-bismol3778
    @technol-bismol37782 жыл бұрын

    Now definitely something that would be interesting is Ektachrome vs. Velvia

  • @istapleton11
    @istapleton112 жыл бұрын

    I think inherently film stocks overexposed by like a 1/2 stop tend to get the negative density better than when shot at box speed. It’s a subtle difference but unless you’re shooting with a very specialized film stock that way of doing it, in my mind, makes the negatives come out the way it was intended.

  • @RYANPARKPHOTOGRAPHY
    @RYANPARKPHOTOGRAPHY2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I always over exposed pro400h! Havent used it for a while but forget about it, pro400h is too pricy now. I am comparing provia 100 and Ektarchrome. please do this one as well!!

  • @mylesinthesky
    @mylesinthesky2 жыл бұрын

    more comparisons at night or under tungsten light would be nice because it seemed that the Fuji Pro 400H looked a lot more pleasant in the last shot.

  • @sircitrus
    @sircitrus2 жыл бұрын

    great video as per. still sad about what happened to lando

  • @capowafy1
    @capowafy12 жыл бұрын

    Dude I love your content!!! But giving that guy a “dunking tutorial” made me laugh so hard!!! So Good!

  • @aribetterlari
    @aribetterlari2 жыл бұрын

    OMFG Daddy Jason and Caleb uploaded todayyyyyyyyyyyy

  • @fakename287
    @fakename2872 жыл бұрын

    Kodak Gold vs Fuji Superia, since they seem to be the standard recommendation for "cheap" film stock (Might be hard to compare since box speed is different)

  • @sebastiann7467

    @sebastiann7467

    2 жыл бұрын

    maybe Fuji C200 is worth a shot

  • @jarodjohannesson3126
    @jarodjohannesson31262 жыл бұрын

    A lot of work went into this

  • @leejamesphoto
    @leejamesphoto2 жыл бұрын

    Im glad you covered the 'reds, oranges, knees and toes' most people leave that out but you know your shit

  • @___shanaaa
    @___shanaaa2 жыл бұрын

    easily becoming my favorite youtuber lol

  • @thestephengilmore
    @thestephengilmore2 жыл бұрын

    I’d like to see a comparison of Portra and Lomography 400 or even Portra 160 vs Ektar!!

  • @wewuwewu
    @wewuwewu2 жыл бұрын

    now i know what those interchangeable backs r for

  • @jmm117kgb
    @jmm117kgb2 жыл бұрын

    Can you review the panorama wide pic camera? Seems like it's one of the worst/interesting ones out there with the cropping and all. Really would like your take on it

  • @Jakob8
    @Jakob82 жыл бұрын

    I'd love a provia VS ektachrome vid just like this!

  • @rickbiessman6084
    @rickbiessman6084 Жыл бұрын

    I’m shocked by how similar the two look in a lot of situations!

  • @MrChrodo
    @MrChrodo2 жыл бұрын

    Adox Color Implosion for wedding photography! Yeah, considering how Fuji and Kodak were similar priced, i don't get the praise 400H received. Then again, what else did Fuji had in 120 with ISO400?

  • @scotthullinger4684
    @scotthullinger46842 жыл бұрын

    I always liked to use Kodak film, but then have my prints made in a lab which used Fuji photo paper. But I also liked the Fuji film itself.

  • @FranciscoRamirezAraya
    @FranciscoRamirezAraya2 жыл бұрын

    Never been so early, lets gooo!!

  • @titofly00
    @titofly002 жыл бұрын

    i dont really dig the looks of both rated at box speed. but if I had to chose I would need to know wich one does Baxter prefer, just that.

  • @KNURKonesur
    @KNURKonesur2 жыл бұрын

    I would ask that question if I could affotd colour film! As a sworn b+w shooter I wonder why HP5 is so good but can I get the same results with cheaper film? :D

  • @awolphotos
    @awolphotos2 жыл бұрын

    Yes I have

  • @dylanhill6736
    @dylanhill67362 жыл бұрын

    I love Fuji Pro 400H! Often I use Portra 400 for special projects.

  • @AntonioManaligod
    @AntonioManaligod2 жыл бұрын

    What's your audio setup? I have the same mic but you're settings make your voice sound so crips and clean

  • @senbilverglate9638
    @senbilverglate96382 жыл бұрын

    Is there any way to get my lab to scan Portra to look like the home scans, they always make it contrasty, id scam at home but I do not have the money for that

  • @rebeccasuur
    @rebeccasuur2 жыл бұрын

    Laughing about myself thinking what a great idea it was zu take photos of actual color charts. Would never have thought of this. Must be the reason you are sitting on this side of the camera and I on the receiving side.

  • @JustinRobles13
    @JustinRobles132 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see an Ektachrome vs. Provia 100F comparison.

  • @samcouto
    @samcouto2 жыл бұрын

    Lomo 800 and Portra 800 would be a cool comparison for next time 👍

  • @lizzipedersen9137
    @lizzipedersen91372 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know of you’ve done it before but ilphord hp5 vs. Kodak tmax 400

  • @erwnalejo
    @erwnalejo2 жыл бұрын

    That Lomo Metropolis diss had me dying 🤣🤣🤣

  • @FreezerKing
    @FreezerKing2 жыл бұрын

    I guess Ektachrome and Provia would be a good comparison, they have the same ISO and the same general colour palette going on.

  • @andrewscholz2327
    @andrewscholz23272 жыл бұрын

    Comparing two budget films could be fun.