I appreciate the fact that the length of the video is 2x 9:11 = 18:22. Well done.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

You are bang on, excellent spot sir.

@996ttporsche9

3 жыл бұрын

@@9WERKSTV 5tpt⅚

@capriconstructiondesigninc8833

3 жыл бұрын

Wow. I love it.

the 996.1 got the cable throttle, no traction control for some and very very few with psm... The last analog 911, enough for be the winner!

@nathandan7079

Жыл бұрын

Additionally gen 1 had a better IMS (dual raw) bearing, paint and piston skirts coating , due to eu environmental directives after 2000

@ESKATEUK

10 ай бұрын

Eh it’s worse in near on every way.

@FeintMotion

Ай бұрын

@@ESKATEUK clownshoe post

dang the 996 aged so well. and as beautiful as the 991/992 variants are; they feel sterile and computerized. the 996 still has that basic feel and it's much smaller in dimensions compared to the newer versions. which translates to a better driving feel.

Having a speed yellow 6-speed ‘99, I’m on team Gen 1, but you can’t go wrong with any sorted 996.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Bang on! Nice 996 too!

@wmhhealth2018

3 жыл бұрын

Me too a speed yellow 6-speed '00 cabriolet C2

@noandrewhere

6 ай бұрын

That’s obviously wrong. You can go very wrong even with the most sorted 996. Trust me. I’ve owned two 996 4s as first owner and had major engine failures at 28.000km on the first and 62.000km on the second one. Both used as daily drivers with approximal 12-14.000km/year and recommended service intervals at Porsche. So I think the 996 is a nice car, looks great, drives smoothly but unfortunately ist always a gamble and I’d recommend to always choose a turbo or gt3. Still have my third 996 (Turbo x50 manual) with now almost 300.000 and no issues at all except the normal wear. Great car.

As an owner of a 99, I'm biased to the .1, but they're both brilliant. Great vid as always. Also, a couple differences you missed: -Cable throttle cars (MY 99) have a dual-row IMS bearing instead of a single row (1/5 the failure rate) -The .1 interior plastics are nicer (rubber coated instead of painted) -Hollow-spoke 18" wheels on the .1 weigh less than the 17" wheels (though the standard solid spokes are heavier) -US suspension is different (ie USA M029 =/= euro M029, etc) -M030 isn't actually firmer than M029, just lower (all use the same Bilstein B4s) -There are some interior colors only offered in 1999 like Space Gray -The mufflers of the .2 and .1 are interchangeable parts (not identical, but compatible), however the exhaust tips are not -The .2 has a slightly higher drag coefficient -The .1 tiptronic is slightly slower than the .2 tiptronic -The tiptronic cars require you to drop the engine to change the IMS while the manual cars do not -The 993 LSD was only used on MY 99, 2000 onward did not offer an LSD for Carreras or Carrera 4s -MY 99 cars are more susceptible to rust, notably in the door latch areas on the chassis

Gen 2 cars looks classier imo. Those small tweaks give it the edge both externally, internally, and in the drive. You never mentioned the changes to the IMS which were allegedly less reliable in the Gen 2 cars. That was a fun watch. 👌

@AV-sf5xq

Жыл бұрын

So gen1 is more reliable?

You can always tell a Porsche geek by the involutary grins as they go thru the gears. Never wears off.

Nice writeup, Gen II looks lovely, the 4S still totally the business even today.

I consider myself a very knowledgeable and proud 996 owner, but I learned a number of things from this video. Well done!

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks John!

I'm in the .1 camp, because that was the best car that came up for sale. I've always thought that moving the digital speedo away from the center dial was a step backwards in the 2nd generation

@allandobbins5221

2 жыл бұрын

Right. The digital speedo should be on the tach. Fixed in the 997. Still, love my 996.2!

@wesleycarusos8225

Жыл бұрын

I agree I just got my gen 2 the other day. Was in the mountain yesterday and I'm used to the digital in the middle on my Boxster. Kind of a pain in the ass to look over to the left.

Really good video. Very interesting to see the differences back to back between the two. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Amber, always appreciate your kind comments.

Thanks for the entertaining video Lee. Gen 1 wins it for me with the beautifully symmetrical "fried-egg" shape headlamps over the confused shape of the Gen 2 ones.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! I'd take Gen2 build quality with Gen1 engine, with Gen2 bumpers but Gen1 lights in an ideal world.

@dmytrorodionov9752

Жыл бұрын

@@9WERKSTV Why would you prefer gen 1 engine instead gen 2 one? Thanks!

@eddieaguirre6558

Жыл бұрын

I love my 01 Gen1! I think 01 lights without all that amber of the 99’s look much sleeker and more like the 917 race car that they were derived from. Also the Gen1 had dual row IMS compared to single row of the Gen2. Those had a very low failure rate. All that said you can’t go wrong with either. All of these will double in price in 20 yrs. Specially the well maintained low mileage ones. Get one while you can and take care of it!

Enjoyed that, learnt a few things too! V happy with my gen 2. Cheers Lee 👍🏼

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure, Dav! Glad you're enjoying the .2!

Great video Lee. Having owned my gen 2 for nearly 6 years it still delivers on every occasion it's used. Manual, C2 with 17" wheels and a Dansk Sports exhaust fitted 2 years ago... Keep up the good work.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers John! Great to hear your 996 is on 17s, I've a new found respect for the smaller wheels after this test. I prefer the look of the 18s but the feel of the 17s, and feel is most important when behind the wheel.

Great video as ever Lee! Really enjoyed that! Out of interest was the 996.2 ever offered with the “Aerokit” option as frequently fitted to the 996.1 (Like mine)? I don’t recall ever seeing any 996.2s with factory GT3 body kits and one of the things I adore about mine is the “Baby GT3” look.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

the Aerokit was a popular option for Gen1 cars, and for good reason - they look bloody awesome. GT3.2 Aerokit was offered for the Gen2 I believe, though it didn't have much of a take-up, for reasons unknown?

Nicely put together video breaking down the 996 in general, not just the difference between Gen 1 and 2. Nothing cheesey or irritating about your format too. Crazy to think these cars will be "classics" before too long.

Great vid as ever Lee. I’m in the model year 99.1 camp after refurbishment of this barn find. I agree with you on the external styling preferences of the .2 with the .1 lights. I’m on PSE, so has the howl the one on the test doesn’t have for me 👍🏼 engine rebuild for me and full suspension overhaul including B6’s and H&R’s. Very happy with the outcome 😉👌🏼

What about the elephant in the room about gen1 3.4 less prone to bore scoring?

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Only the earlier cars were less prone before the 996s switched to a different cylinder coating.

Original owner 1999 996. Nov 99 build. G1 fan but respect G2.. Was not aware of exposed cable under the rug! One "Pro" to manual handle released trunk is if you lose power you still have access to the battery easily. Wish I had that glove box! Excellent review thanks.

I have a Gen 2 with 175k on clock. Was a motorway car for first owner 150k - 8 years now in my ownership . Great car and drive , I regularly service myself and love the quality build and engineering . Love your videos !

Thanks for the video! Kinda inspiring me to do one on the 996 too! Great job 👏

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Awesome video, learned a lot from it, thank you Lee!

@9WERKSTV

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Driving a Gen 2 GT3 CS. What a blast 😍

Great video, been wanting this! But I understand you had mentioned that they reach their numbers at similar RPM. But does the 3.4 have a lower or higher redline than the 3.6? Where do they both end at?

Great informative video. My 996.2 cab has a Kline exhaust. Beautiful sound.

Great info, very well put across ! 👏

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark.

Great job showing the strengths and weaknesses of both. Definitely prefer the.1 but I own an early build (2/98) so I’m a little biased 😁

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Phil! You've a right to be biased, you've put your money where your mouth is.

Really liked the review, nice to see something so detailed and NOT boring. Good reviewer, keep it up

@9WERKSTV

10 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly.

I was lucky enough to have both from new, loved them

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Which did you prefer?

Bought the best 996 I could find. It happens to be a late gen 1 C4. Love it. Great video Lee “isn’t it” 👍🏼🏆

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Best parameter in which to buy, "isn't it"?!

@Marcodurango22

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry the best is mine hehehehee

what is the name of the wheels on green 996?

I was able to get my first Porsche about two months ago. Got a Gen 1 996. Very happy with it.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on, enjoy!

@maxalwaysgoesbyboat7715

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats!!!

Daily driver of a 2003 C4S and what a wonderful car it is! Love every second in it. Oh and a great video too 😎

Great video, thanks for the work. Been loving my gen 1 with aero kit from factory. I added the ROW M030 (In US) and 3 spoke steering wheel. Arctic Silver. Had it for 17.5 years. Had to replace the engine after first 6 months (after I owned it, bought 7/2003) at about 60k miles, main bearings failed (3rd party warranty covered it). Since then it has been wonderful, 163.5k miles. 3200 US LBS. Also added 2001 mufflers, modified with better air flow. No longer sounds like a sewing machine. Birthday 6/98.

The GT1 headlights look great on the 996

I own a 996.1 MY99 with aftermarket GT3 Aero kit and I did not change the head lights nor tail lights, love the amber! I live in the States more specifically SoCal and you don't see very many .1 variants anymore. Thanks for posting!

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, Ron! Enjoy.

Never knew about the chassis differences and engine overhaul between the .1 and .2, great video!

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@tlzangl

3 жыл бұрын

Same here

Great to see all the tech details. Very much enjoyed. Thank you.

@9WERKSTV

3 ай бұрын

My pleasure.

Thank you for this great video! 🙏

Thanks for the videos lee. Especially the interviews with Pinky. Wondering if there are stats on exteroir colour options. Seems like most are grey or silver? any idea how many blue, vs red, green etc?

Nice review Lee. We'll done and thank you!

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

Brilliant, concise review. I think the .2 headlights look better on the turbo. The gen 1 is prettier.

Great review !

Nice one Lee. Really hope I can get my hands on one some day...

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Fingers and toes crossed for you.

I’ve got a Cargraphic super sound exhaust on my .2…. It’s truly a magical sound. Great video!

You know more about the 996 gens than i could ever learn and research. Pretty amazing.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Karlis!

I believe I own the very last-made 996 sold in North America (white with beige leather, not green -- ahem). It is a 2005 911 Carrera targa, the SN code on my VIN is 35085, which is way above the range in the Porsche documentation. Only the targa was sold as a 996 in 2005 due to ongoing roof assembly deliveries, and about 3% of 911s are targas. Can anyone report a 996 with a higher SN code?

@abel4776

Жыл бұрын

I'd go to rennlist and ask.

Still driving my 2003 911. Love it!

I tend to agree with you on the M030 being a bit too firm for the road. It might sound a bit feeble but sometimes it makes journey’s a bit tiring with the bump thumping all the time, especially with the poor surface conditions. Great all round cars though and how anyone can knock them I will never fathom. Great video Lee👍

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks JB. Yes for Sunday blasts M030 is great, but the reality of enduring it for daily driving is a bit much in my view.

Don't forget that the Targa was the first Porsche 911 with a rear hatch! The rear glass on the 996 opens up, contrast to the 993 Targa, which had a similar moving glass roof, but without the rear hatch. Really practical too, you can fit two large moving boxes on the folded rear seats. As for the Gen2 front: the fenders are actually not only the same as the Turbo size-wise, the standard road cars had ones made out of a different (heavier/cheaper) material, but you can't get them anymore from Porsche as a replacement. Only the turbo fenders (which fit, but cost 2x the money). With the Gen1, finding a replacement fender is easy, since they share them with the Boxster (which never got the updated look, and had the old fender design through all of its lifetime).

Great video Lee, totally agree they really are riding the crest of a wave.... so much so Ive just picked up a Gen II car...... Coming from a two fold 997.2 pdk ownership.... I am really enjoying the manual 996 and the much more analog experience! Learned a lot tonight cheers ;-) Might even upgrade the PCM soon

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear, Duncan! High praise for the 996 if it's sitting alongside a 997.2, that's for sure. Enjoy.

That Sudbury/castle Hedingham Road is awesome 😎

I’ve had a gen 1 c2 and gen 2 C4s and would opt for the gen 1. It was a purer drive and felt so sprightly. But why not get the even more reliable turbo which is only slightly more expensive. I’ve been running an 02 for four years and it has been impeccable with none of the reliability concerns.

Another great in-depth video Lee. I do believe the .2 headlights cleaned up the fried egg look. I got my 04 C4S cabriolet 2 years ago with about 104,000 from the original owner. It now has 127,000 miles and it’s still running strong with the original IMS. Living in Southern California, it’s so much fun. Almost forgot to add, it’s a 6 speed manual with full leather pkg. All the best

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a top 996 you have! I'd love exactly the car and spec you have as a cool daily driver. Enjoy!

@grecopena

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I remember your review of your CS4. I was sad to see you sell that car, but I also like you little Irish ☘️. Congratulations on you other videos too. You are definitely moving up. All the best!

Great overview so useful Liked and sub’d

Thanks for the insight

My choice would be the gen 2. Looks better and performs better.

@greglindstedt6594

2 жыл бұрын

GEN 2 IS WORTH PAYING for the xtras

@greglindstedt6594

2 жыл бұрын

Hello

@kevinwirga6021

2 жыл бұрын

The gen 2 and the later gen 1 cars have the single IMS , which is a much bigger risk than the early 996 which has the dual IMS bearing.

@chrisdixon2498

Жыл бұрын

100 is the first one I purchased for my intro to the 911 world and I have several other ones now but the 996 has stayed in my personal favourites and kept it as I don't have millions I have to sell them to get the next one but I couldn't find it in me to get rid of the 996 and it was just over 20k and I am very sure it was a massive drop of 5k to 15k the dealer offering to me and I will be honest I told him to F off because you have to ask yourself why you are looking to sell a property sports car for 15k no no no I have been victim of lack of knowledge and lost before she was put back in garage with the cost issues that I was facing with the new to me 997 I put it on finance and the fact they have both had a price rise for the opportunity I sold the second one to get 993 and the 996 to be in the garage still in a very hi standard and the value of the car is more than I paid for it happy days 😀

Great job as always, Lee!

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Awesome content. Clear, passionate … lovely. Il about to get my 996.2. I just can’t wait

@9WERKSTV

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Clément! Enjoy the miles ahead.

Well done! 9964S 4Ever!

Great video! I picked up a 40 Jahre just a little under a month ago and can't stop driving it! Definitely one of the best ever dare I say and more compliant as well.

Great vid very informative I have the 996.2 targa in silver just on with stainless mild sports exhaust swap for the inevitable rotten standard ones...

@maxalwaysgoesbyboat7715

2 жыл бұрын

The Targa is so cool...it is in a class on its own with class...😎

so I have a 2000 C2 , clear indicators, suede header , and egas, but mine still has cable trunk release?

I love my 2000 gen 1 - silver with black Techart turbo Fuchs style rims, 6 speed, black interior, duck tail, modded exhaust, a few engine mods, xenon lights, white dials, IMS done, and is an RS tribute race car. Just give me a windy road and get outta my way!!! It's got an old school vibe and I can also take the kids to school, I take it to Laguna Seca for some track time or autocross, drive it to work taking the "long way" and I just love it!!!! As much as I am a huge fan of the 70's and 80's 911/930 turbos, my next Porsche will be a modern GT3...now talk about insane!

Just got a 2002 C4S and it is everything I could ask. So much fun, especially on curves. Warning sign says take the curve at 30, just double that. Also have a Aston DB9. It’s more of a grand cruiser, lots of power straight line. The Porsche excels in the rally

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic, Jeff. Agreed on the cornering signage, they are just minimum requirements aren't they?!

Dear god what I would do for those grey door cards without the door speaker! Great video brother!!!

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Ahahaha! Thanks!

Terrific comparison, Lee! If you have the opportunity, I would love to see a comparison between the 997.1 and the 996 gen 2. I have the 997 and am always a bit confused as to what were the changes. I know the M96.05 engine is improved in the IMS department, but would like to learn the other real differences. Thanks!

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tom! 996.2 v 997.1 is an awesome shout, I'll make that happen.

@benterry2681

3 жыл бұрын

I always saw the 997.1 as a 996.2 with a classic body kit. Everything from engine, gearbox and suspension and tones of other parts are the same or interchangeable.

@paulomagalhaes9405

3 жыл бұрын

... Basically the 997.1 is a 996.2 on which the guys at Porsche swapped head & rear lights, bumpers & dashboard inside ... specially the 3.6. As for IMS, Porsche kept it unchanged from the 996.2 until about mid 2005 for M.Y. 2006.

Good to see the guy who purchased the gen 2 is actually driving it!! 8k miles compared to under 1000 for the 3 yrs previous 👊👊👊

Great video 👍

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Great videos you make! I got a gen 2 since a few weeks back. A C2, no PSM or sunroof. Only a CD-player which I can use my old CD collection again! Without a Porsche for 10 years, got a Cayman S then. So all good now 😊 I love the torque of the engine, and I agree the interior does feel better than gen1. I also think the gearbox feels tighter in gen 2. I an keeping it original BUT will install a Ohlins Road n track kit to refresh my suspension. Lovely car and bargain of the century for sure!

great video

Great video, thanks for educating us! Those "fried egg" headlight design that receives so much negative criticism actually can be found on Porsche's 911 GT1 race car of that era...like them or not, they are - typical, bespoke Porsche engineering - purposeful and part of its racing heritage. The lights found their way onto both the Boxster and 911. My personal vote would be single round lamps - but I would not unequivocally rule out either gen of 996 for those alone. These cars drive beautifully, make that great flat-6 noise and quite honestly, outperform previous generations in many ways/metrics. I like the older air-cooled cars, the 996 era, 92/94/96 series, the Boxster, the 997+ cars...they are all Porsches. Buy what you like and enjoy and have fun in a well-engineered, delightful motorcar.

Question: Is the engine hood on 996.1 and 996.2 the same? Will rear wings for example GT3-RS fit the 996.1?

Excellent! Looking forward to this as I'm hoping to get one in a few years time and did wonder the differences

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

That's my pleasure.

Great vid pal 👍

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Is there is a difference between the two cars with the IMS shaft bearing? I understand the 996.1 has the single row as opposed to the dual row shaft bearing? Or is it the other way around? Anyway, which 996 has less likely to have an engine breakdown due to IMS issues? I have the Gen 1, I wished I'd known about the Gen 2.

Thanks :)

Lee, have you done a similar comparison between the gt3 996.1 vs .2 ? I haven’t seen it if so and would love to have your impressions of them side by side. The .1 still isn’t available here in the States, but it will be in 3 more years.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea for a video, thanks for suggesting. Looks like the.1 GT3 is set for another boost in values then when it's applicable for the States in three years!

Another fantastic video about the fabulous 996!

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers John!

Great video

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I prefer the pre facelift 996 with aero kit look .. pre 2000 had dual row IMS too

I really love the look of the Gen 2 C4S car with the wider rear end and light bar across the back.

I have a cable 98, love it, the best version is the version you own.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

I have a .1 car that has silver instruments instead of black; was that a factory option or did someone modify it?

Cheers Lee, another great video. I am on the first gen camp with my 98. ;) By the way, what is the white "lining" on the headlights of the Little Irish; it's the first time I see something like that. Looks good with your car's color and amber turn signals.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Probably just the camera angle I assume, as I've done nothing special with the lights. If anything, they need a refurb.

Good review, but basic traction control on gen I was an optional extra. So a key difference to me between the generations is no electronic driving system except ABS as standard on gen I and electronic Porsche Management control, electronic gas pedal, more digital stuff on the dashboard on gen II. Generation I is lighter, more narrow and is more analog/mechanical than all the 911s after it. To me, that is what appealing about the first generation of 996, I could care less about headlights design.

cheers good review!!

Well done Sir. 1st 996 I have ever seen in Irish Green, I would buy that car just for the color it is painted.

@9WERKSTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert!

Great review Lee!🚗

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks John!

@johnmcreynolds5299

3 жыл бұрын

@@9WERKSTV I drive a GT 86 but the dreams a 911! Love yer content..... one day.. one day!!!!🚗

Those Fuchs look sick on that 996.

Is there a difference between the gen 1 and gen 2 traction control and ABS ?

What an amazing presenter ! Love the passion ;)

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hakim, thats very kind!

Great vid thanks. I guess you can make your car personal to you. For example, get your perfect chassis set up much like you have done.

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Will. Exactly that, there are many different setups to choose from, so it's possible to buy and build the right project for you.

So I have the 996.2 I've done the Aero kit but I used the taco tail. And I've done the suspension pretty close to the m030 except I use the H&R lowering springs instead of the m030 springs I also did the resonator delete which I highly recommend. You can actually feel the difference. In my opinion the car looks and drives wonderful. Can't imagine that I would want anything more maybe a GT3 LOL

Such a good video. Many thanks. Currently I can’t afford a 911 but I will be able to in the future. Up to £30,000. After watching hours of video the conclusion seems to be condition over anything else. Dream for me would be a 996 gen 2 with factor aero kit or a 996 4S, potentially a 997 S. that being said I’d get whatever car was the best condition for £30,000.

Top work Lee ,, gen 2 M030 .... cant beat it. IMO. I was talking to Marino Franchitti today & he is seriously thinking about buying a 996 !

@9WERKSTV

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Paul!

I bought a 03 C4 Cab speed and later found out with a build sheet I ordered that it was a X51 car. Confirmed by looking at the intake manifold. Was a really nice surprise.

I have a 3/98 Gen 1. Brilliant car and takes modifications really well.

This was the first time I have watched your channel and I thought I have seen your face before and then I realized that you are the editor of Total 911

@9WERKSTV

2 жыл бұрын

Secret's out! Yes I split my time between T911 and my KZread work these days.

Nice video. I have a 992 carrera. I love em all. If i could fit id have been happy with a 996 too. What great cars.