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A simple APR tune on that 2.5 and it’s a beast!
@michaeldebusk6718
Жыл бұрын
Walks away from a 718 GT4 lol
@cstraley
Жыл бұрын
I have an APR tune as an only mod on my 2018 Boxster GTS and you are right it is a BEAST! I owned a 2021 Spyder and it felt slow in comparison. I sold it and searched for the 18 GTS and immediately APR'd it. I had an 18 Cayman GTS I APR'd and regretted selling it.
@RomanticPopPunk
Жыл бұрын
@@cstraley any engine with an APR tune will blow up sooner or later
@cstraley
Жыл бұрын
@@RomanticPopPunk Really? What makes you so sure?
@verde629
Жыл бұрын
And a soul performance or fab speed exhaust definitely helps.
The smile on the GTS owner when in his car says it all. Drive what you enjoy
Some really good points in that vid mate. As a super useable, but great fun daily sports car the GTS is wicked. Shout out to Adam as well, his car was looking super clean and detailed for that vid. Carmine red is stunning to!
Great vid, picking up my 2.5 GTS in a couple days, this vid definitely helped when I was making up my decision. Thanks to Adam also
@MrHCars
3 ай бұрын
Thanks! And congrats on the new whip! Enjoy 👊🏼
Amazing comparison video! Can you do a 2.5T vs 4.0 video?
Great video. Both cars are definitely special in their own way!
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Totally agree too!
Nice content mate, good to be back! ❤
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother ❤️
Can’t compare pdk vs manual imo. I’ve driven the GTS 4.0 PDK and 2.5 GTS manual back to back and I honestly felt the 2.5 was quicker especially with the low end torque being way more noticeable on the 2.5.
@boywonderrr71
4 ай бұрын
Im thinking about the 2.5L GTS with APR tune to 395hp 400tq
@darrylgarcia9147
4 ай бұрын
@@boywonderrr71 do it brother. It’s the best Porsche car for the money. Period.
I'm not sure mixing track tyres and road tyres of a completely different types and brand is a clever idea.
@OVERATV
Жыл бұрын
You're right, it's not a great idea. I didn't really get on well with the Cup 2s - currently on 4 Michelin PS4s which are elite on this car.
Amazing review. Having owned both as you know mate, you've nailed every point. on road, the GTS platform is superior, the extra compliance gives you a better experience on road. However, the 2.5 engine just isn't as special as a flat six is and that's the only downside. while PDK is better overall, those manual shifts do make me envy you ha!
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
Haha glad I did the video justice mate 👊🏼
@amac8487
Жыл бұрын
I own a 2.5 and love love love it. Surely doesn’t sound as good as the flat 6, that’s a fact. But, it really isn’t as bad as most people make it out to be. It’s a pleasure to drive and sounds great inside the cabin.
@charlieh1394
Жыл бұрын
@@amac8487 I’m with you here. Amazing car. For me though, the 4.0 just completes the package of an otherwise exceptional car
@turnerables
2 ай бұрын
@@charlieh1394I just wonder which can put down faster track times. Honestly the sound is just a nice to have not a need to have
Good vid Will. Dont disagree with any of it. Without the GT4 for comparison anyone would think that the GTS is incredible(which it is). However the GT4 the same with everything turned up to 11. What did you think of the PDK in comparison to your old M2c dual clutch?
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Good question… defo better than the DCT! Not jerky at low speeds but still lighting quick. There’s a reason it’s the best “auto” gearbox
@angrydwarf6563
Жыл бұрын
@@MrHCars I had a PDK in a Boxster GTS before the M2c. Didn’t rate the M2 box from standstill but loved the car otherwise and the box was absolutely fine on the move . PDK rules. Manual is best for interaction. You pays Yer money and takes yer choice I guess. Still enjoying the milltek?
2.5L sounds small compared to 4.0L, but big compared to my 1.6L :D
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
😂 perspective
@johnnyng8527
Жыл бұрын
Yea u dude has a M2C track prep and gr yaris 😼
That GT4 sounds epic
Carmine is such a lovely colour!
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
Agreed 😍
Great video you have made up my mind. The GTS it is
@MrHCars
3 ай бұрын
Glad I could help! Enjoy!
@TheNorville2
3 ай бұрын
Or The 991 Carrera T?
As a previous owner of both. The 2.5 is actually the faster car, GT4 cannot keep up in a straight line. The steering should feel heavier in the GT4, get the geometry checked.
@cstraley
Жыл бұрын
I had a 2021 Spyder and have an 18 Boxster GTS with a stage 1 APR tune and there is absolutely no comparison in performance imo.
@stevexspeed7649
7 ай бұрын
@@cstraleywhat’s the power on the boxster gts ?
@cstraley
7 ай бұрын
Over 400 to the wheels.@@stevexspeed7649
I did a tune on mine. 410hp
I wish you can drag race a 718 cayman GTS 2.5L with 718 cayman GTS 4.0L from dic and roll race and see who quicker. Both stock... I can't find nowhere on the web 2.5 vs 4.0
Nice one mate, just bought a GTS and love it as a daily
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
Ah congrats mate!! Enjoy 🥳
@stevexspeed7649
7 ай бұрын
How many miles and what’s the specs?
Sound in a sports car is far better than speed and that is where the GTS is let down like most turbo engines, even my 2.9 Cayman sounds like a true flat six legend. However the GTS represents excellent value for money for those who prioritise speed over sound albeit with 20 mph London roads, all cars are equal so the sound tells a better story. The flat four engine is an integral part of Porsche history and the GTS carries that legacy giving enthusiast a broad range of cayman to pick.
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
You’re making Adam consider buying a W204 again… 😂
@cstraley
Жыл бұрын
An APR stage 1 tune actually improves the exhaust tone enough that I really like it now on the 2.5 GTS. It also gets more than 400hp to the wheels with zero other mods. I have done this with 2 718 GTS's.
Great video just an observation though, the GT4 isn’t a straight 6 by the way, it’s a flat 6 😉
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah you’re correct. Silly naming convention 😅
@davidfacini3930
11 ай бұрын
Have a brand new 718S on its way from Germany. Will be one of the last ice caymans in the world. I am excited. Almost purchased a used GT4. But it was crazy money 😢!
4.0L is fast and sounds great. 2.5 still sounds good and with a stage 2gts mod they out perform a gt3 over the quarter! Sales are going up on these but declining for the 4.0 due to bang 4 bucks. The next ones are going EV so enjoy these great cars 🎉
I had both cars. Still own the 2022 718 gt4. 718 cayman Gts sounded like a popcorn machine even with after market exhaust.
@cstraley
Жыл бұрын
Did you have an APR tune? I have owned 2 GTS 2.5's and a 2021 Spyder. The APR tune improved the throatiness of the sound in my Boxster to where I no longer have plans to make it louder. It doesn't sound anything like popcorn imo and I have had some great sounding cars. The GT4 exhaust is pretty lame imo. I was hoping it would sound more like my 991 GT3 RS which sounds AMAZING.
@zackvandenhouten6067
25 күн бұрын
@@cstraley Do you still feel this way? Really close to getting a GTS 2.5L
@cstraley
25 күн бұрын
@@zackvandenhouten6067 You wont regret it.
45 MPG I don’t believe I love Porche but we need an official MPG test that Honda Civic territory
At 01:59 you say that the silver car has a straight six. It has of cause a boxer six.
Owned a GT4, now driving a tuned 718 Touring with 385 bhp. This is by far the better car in every way except for the sound. And at half the price of a GT4.
Stage 1 and the GTS will be bonkers. Like you say, missing some noise but still a great car
@cstraley
Жыл бұрын
An APR stage 1 tune actually improves the exhaust tone enough that I really like it now on the 2.5 GTS. It also gets more than 400hp to the wheels with zero other mods. I have done this with 2 cars and the mpg is even improved by 2mpg in the city!
GTS SMOKES this with a tune
I’m sure others have said it and I’m sure it was a slip of the tongue, but your GT4 is a flat 6, not a straight 6.
GTS has a better turbo than S as well
@nicovink7745
Жыл бұрын
Same as the S. Both the S and GTS have the same, and that's an other one than used in the base Boxster/Cayman
@Sptsmn700
11 ай бұрын
@@nicovink7745 false the s and gts share the same 2.5 motor but the gts has a bigger turbo and different intake manifold
@turnerables
2 ай бұрын
@@Sptsmn700do the modern s use the same turbo as the old gts since they don’t make turbo gts any more?
20 seconds of video and my decision is taken...
Lol at 2.5L GTS owner saying its better than GT4. Ask any GTS owner for straight trade to GT4. And ask GT4 owner if they are willing to trade for GTS. Also comparing with tuned car?
Yeah the 2.5 just doesn’t compare sound wise
@cstraley
Жыл бұрын
An APR stage 1 tune actually improves the exhaust tone enough that I really like it now on the 2.5 GTS. It also gets more than 400hp to the wheels with zero other mods. I have done this with 2 cars and the mpg is even improved by 2mpg in the city!
@ronin120
Жыл бұрын
@@cstraley APR tune.
@cstraley
Жыл бұрын
@@ronin120 ?
GT4 are about £76K
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
A LOT of car for that money!! 🤯
I'd take the Supra 😄
Why do people buy a gt4 an then get it in poxy silver
@MrHCars
4 ай бұрын
Because it’s a nice colour and looks clean? Out of interest, what colour is your gt4?
You should consider my 450bhp hybrid turbo Cayman 718 2.0 litre. Faster than both and much less money.
@turnerables
2 ай бұрын
How did you make it a hybrid without compromising drivability
The 2.5 is a brilliant car. However, the sound detracts sooo much from the driving/joy of ownership experience that I sold mine. Found a M2 Comp with 8000kms on the clock and I don’t regret the decision.
@cstraley
Жыл бұрын
An APR stage 1 tune actually improves the exhaust tone enough that I really like it now on the 2.5 GTS. It also gets more than 400hp to the wheels with zero other mods. I have done this with 2 cars and the mpg is even improved by 2mpg in the city! Funny I traded a 2020 M4 Comp with 7k miles for my Boxster GTS. My M4 had traction issues and I wanted to tune and lightly mod it. I bailed when the ass end came around on me stock. The active rear diff always had me guessing when it would intervene. I have brand new High performance catted downpipes and a new high-performance intercooler for your bmw M2 sitting in my garage if you are interested lol.
@samybougandoura9434
9 ай бұрын
Hi, I have an M2 competition (c10.000miles) as well. A friend is selling his 981 GTS Cayman (11.000miles) with the flat 6. Would it make sense to own both together ? Would you keep the M2 or trade it for the Cayman ? Thanks.
😂 there’s 0 chance that gets 45mpg. Your conversions are off buddy
@turnerables
2 ай бұрын
Probably means the way the UK measures it which is super weird
No mass produced Porsches are bona fide tracks cars. That's just marketing working on you.
You did not switch seats…. 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
I drove both cars...?
@ArisBalomenos
Жыл бұрын
Look at the headrests - one has GTS and the other GT4. Also, look at the trim - the GTS has carbon fiber, and the GT4 brushed aluminum. Both cars were driven.
@MrHCars
Жыл бұрын
@@ArisBalomenos thank you Aris👊🏼 Also… one pdk, one manual 😅
GTS is total pants. I'm sorry but it just is.
@C22RLD
Жыл бұрын
Interesting opinion. Its not though is it?
@adr3510
6 ай бұрын
@@C22RLD🤣 fr. Guys a flat 6 missionary