Pool and billiards DRAW/backspin/screw-back SHOT - Part 1: technique
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Dr. Dave and Bob Jewett describe, illustrate, and demonstrate proper technique, physics effects, and game-situation example for a pool and billiards draw shot, where bottom spin or backspin is used to pull (screw) the cue ball back.
Table of Contents:
Part 1: Technique - • Pool and billiards DRA...
0:00 - Technique Advice
0:33 - Chalk Up
1:00 - Tip Position
1:37 - Cue Elevation
3:07 - Bridge Length
4:01 - Relaxed Grip
4:30 - Closed vs. Open Bridge
4:47 - Elbow Drop
5:35 - Stroke Acceleration
6:08 - Follow Through
Part 2: Physics - • Pool and billiards dra...
- Backspin Drag
- Draw Control Drill
- Cut Angle Effects
- Speed Effects
- Cloth Condition Effects
- Cue Elevation Effects
Part 3: Examples - • Pool and billiards dra...
- Position Control
- Scratch Avoidance
- Breakout Shot
- CB Path Control
- Drag Shot
- Straight-In Shot Options
- Carom Shot
- Kick Shot
- Jump Shot
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*Table of Contents:* *Part 1: Technique* - kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6OumchxXdq4gsY.html 0:00 - Technique Advice 0:33 - Chalk Up 1:00 - Tip Position 1:37 - Cue Elevation 3:07 - Bridge Length 4:01 - Relaxed Grip 4:30 - Closed vs. Open Bridge 4:47 - Elbow Drop 5:35 - Stroke Acceleration 6:08 - Follow Through *Part 2: Physics* - kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3-r186oj8TNYM4.html - Backspin Drag - Draw Control Drill - Cut Angle Effects - Speed Effects - Cloth Condition Effects - Cue Elevation Effects *Part 3: Examples* - kzread.info/dash/bejne/iI5p1bCukanShqg.html - Position Control - Scratch Avoidance - Breakout Shot - CB Path Control - Drag Shot - Straight-In Shot Options - Carom Shot - Kick Shot - Jump Shot *Subscribe to Dr. Dave's KZread Channel:* kzread.info
This is probably the most underrated channel ever
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Please help spread the word to help change that.
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
FYI, I have a lot more newer videos and info dealing with draw technique advice here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/ Check it out.
@friedrichalbertkyuri
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I'm definitely gonna spread the word!
One of the best how to videos I have seen
@DrDaveBilliards
3 жыл бұрын
FYI, I have a lot more (over 400 videos) where that came from here: kzread.infovideos Enjoy!
@josephhaines141
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome I will be checking them out. Have been practicing since my first comment and can do it with some reasonable consistency now!!
One of the better instructional presenters on YT. I play 1- 2 hours every evening for health and recreation.It just makes me feel more alert and aware.Thank you for simple and well focused lessons !
00:50 *This speech is my recital, I think it's very vital*
Best Thing i have ever heard "Keep the grip relaxed the whole way through the stroke"
@DrDaveBilliards
6 жыл бұрын
I agree this is one of the most important "pool fundamental."
@deborahcatania3102
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think he knows what u ment
@matthewwheaton5835
3 жыл бұрын
@@deborahcatania3102 I think he understood just fine. He just provided a response without being a crude dipshit.
2 months after watching your analyzes and playing 4-5 hours in week improved my playing level really good. In bar no one wants to play with me anymore. I'm mostly able to clean 7ft table on first turn in 8 ball. You made clear all of my questions in physics. I have 10mm snooker cue and filled pinpon balls with melted candle now practicing with that at home for my stroke. Thank you.
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I’m glad to here my stuff has helped you.
in just one video about backspin i found cue action fundamentals andf great examples, thank you.
@DrDaveBilliards
3 жыл бұрын
If you want more, see the videos and other info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/ Enjoy!
I have always thought that you wanted the cue elevated for draw up until the last few weeks. lol. Thanks Dave 👍👍
@DrDaveBilliards
Ай бұрын
What happened in the "last few weeks?"
@stephenburdess2914
Ай бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards watching your videoes 👍👍👍👍👍
@DrDaveBilliards
Ай бұрын
@@stephenburdess2914 I’m glad they helped convince you. If you want more convincing, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/cue-elevation/ and: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/elevation/
This is the most helpful video I've seen on this technique. I'm the type of person that needs to understand the logic of how something works to learn it, and this breakdown was great for that. The things that really got me to learn it was using a striped ball to learn where to hit, and dropping back on the cue for a consistent stroke. Really well explained, left a like
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments. I'm glad you found the video helpful.
This is a very good video on one of the shot i struggle with the most
@DrDaveBilliards
3 жыл бұрын
If you want more help, see the videos, info, and advice here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/ I hope it helps.
For draw: loose grip --> meaning not a death grip. Don't try a loose grip because you'll be thinking about your freekin hand the hole time. Thats the last place where you want your concentration. Stay relaxed and hit the piss out of it. If your going to lengthen your bridge so that you'll have more time to accelerate don't over exaggerate it; if your stroke feels awkward it probably is. FYI the Kamui black tips are awesome but go for the medium because the soft just doesn't keep its shape
nice shooting
You bring it to the point! Thx!
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and you're welcome. FYI, I have newer videos and info on this topic here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/ Enjoy!
this really helped thanks
@DrDaveBilliards
10 жыл бұрын
Thank you ... and you're welcome.
I'm glad it helped and I hope it reduces potential embarrassment in the future.
I did have trouble doing the draw shot before but now I'm good to go
@DrDaveBilliards
11 ай бұрын
I’m glad to hear it. If you want more advice, see the newer videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/
@zanethind
11 ай бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards thanks Dr Dave today I had trouble doing the draw again I managed to do it a few times but not as much as I'd like I think I'll watch the newer videos
I hadn't noticed that before. Thank you for pointing it out. Unfortunately, I can't fix it.
Good info. Seems like where I go for pool, every 2 minutes somebody else's cue ball is hit from their table and rolling on the floor in search of somebody with a catcher's mitt.
I'm glad you liked it. Please help spread the word about my stuff.
thanks for the video, great advices. still working on my game.
@florent2911 1) Check your contact point on the cue ball. Substitute a striped ball for the cue ball, as shown at 1:05. Look at the chalk mark on the ball after you shoot. Is it where you thought you hit the ball, or is it higher? 2) Verify that your tip is in good condition, roughed up, and well chalked. 3) Proper acceleration is crucial for draw. Here is an exercise for you to try. Spend 5 minutes a day for the next 2 weeks doing the following:
Thanks for the tips👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
nice. thx! i'll keep working on it.
this was fantastic, thank you
Thanks im now able to pit backspin time to work on right and left thanks
Great video...now I definitely know what I've been doing wrong, thanks!
Good learning video. thanks
Excellent lesson. Very thorough. Thank you.
@DrDaveBilliards
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you ... and you're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Awesome your videos are very helpful. Thank you!! im no longer a begginer
Excellent Dave. Some fundamentals for me to remind myself of next time I play. I often struggle with consistency with my draw shots. Hopefully these tips will help me figure it out !
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. For more help, see the newer videos and info on this topic here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/
it could also be caused that you are playing on a tabel that requiers a bigger cueball then the other balls. I have a bar in my city that has that kind of table. You have to hit it lower and really accurate and really hard(unless the object ball is close) to perform a good draw shot.
Professional video, very nice tips, excellent upload!
@68softtop I'm glad you like VEPS. Please continue to help spread the word! Regards, Dr. Dave
The non-slick cloth can definitely make draw more difficult, but I suspect the problem is more with your technique than with the cloth. To get more draw, it is simple ... you need to hit the cue ball lower (to get more backspin) and with more speed (so less backspin is lost on the way to the object ball. FYI, more advice can be found in the FAQ section of my website (see the link in the video description above).
Amazing lesson
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I play french billiard but this video really helpful. Thank you!
@DrDaveBilliards
4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it. You're welcome!
Through watching many "Draw" videos, they all claimed one should have a short stroking distance, 6 ~ 8 inches maximum. Of course none of their draw shots showed the Q Ball drawing very far. Their limitations were all about 1/2 as far as my abilities when I am doing a mild draw attempt. Normally I draw a full table length, but my power draw shots (when I am "on" is much longer. It is my power draw shots I am looking to improve and so I am seeking to discover what I am doing wrong. Years ago I could draw the Q~Ball nearly twice the length of the pool table, but I lost some ability there over the years and wanted to get that ability back. Mike Massey showed his power draw and I noticed he lengthened his bridge to 10 - 12" and this is the first video agreeing with Mike Massey. Mike showed his power draw with his lengthened bridge and it worked, of course.
Solid tutorial.
A hard tip is a problem only if it is not holding chalk properly. Draw can certainly be as easy (or difficult) with a hard tip as it is with a soft tip.
Very well explained pool tips, Dr Dave. The video's I've watched by you have been very helpful. They have reminded me of alot of little flaws, in my game. Thanks again for the pointer's. 🗨️👏👏👏👏👏👏💫
@DrDaveBilliards
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and you’re welcome. FYI, more videos and info in this topic can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/ I hope it helps.
Thanks for video
Good advice.
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Thanks. It's all about the technique.
good video thanks for uploading
You're welcome. Please help spread the word about my stuff.
Excellent video you must be a phenomenal trainer
@DrDaveBilliards
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@cecilperry3794
5 жыл бұрын
great job killer
This helped a lot, I can draw pretty decent but then sometimes I would hop it and I could never figure out why. Turns out I was tightening my grip right before striking the ball, mainly on draw shots that needed more power. Ever since I tried keeping my arm relaxed through the whole shot I've been way more consistent, and not on draws alone. Thanks for the advice!
@DrDaveBilliards
5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it. FYI, if you want more useful draw shot technique advice, see: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/draw.html#advice
@justinkrogstad2510
5 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards Thanks!
Thanks ur a great teacher of the game
@DrDaveBilliards
8 жыл бұрын
+kwince24 You're welcome ... and thank you. I aim to swerve. :)
Good info thanks
good technique
Great work
@DrDaveBilliards
5 жыл бұрын
Sadik Hasan Thanks!
@florent2911 3) (cont.) Take your cue and practice accelerating through your stroke. With your back hand in the full backstroke position, begin bringing it forward SLOWLY. As you move through the stroke, accelerate smoothly until your hand stops by contacting your chest. Keep your elbow high. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Your tip will maintain contact with the cue ball longer, giving you much better backspin. Use that stroke for all your shots, and you may notice your shots have a new crispness.
Thank you very much @DrDaveBilliards. This helps me to pot 2 balls at once.
Thanks. This helped.
Poštovani gospodine DIVE takodje zahvaljujem se još na jednom snimku u vezi BACK Spina koji je iz 3. Dela što pokazuje jedan gospodin i PERFECTNO je uradjen ako imate nešto o taktici u pool-u pošto sam strategiju pregledao. Hvala mnogo.😅😅😅😅.
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I'm glad you found my draw technique videos helpful.
@lazarkrcadinac1199
4 ай бұрын
Poštovani DR. Dive Mnogo vam hvala što se tiče Čoje ona je BOSOVA ja sam čak i vežbao da stavim ispred KIKS ali kako se udaljava ne dolazim do njega a i PENDULOME STROCKE mi je OGROMAN PROBLEM. Najlepše BiH Vas molio ako možete nešto u vezi toga. Kada držim bliže beloj kugli most neuspem da probije a dalje KATASTROFA. P.S. SAMO Sam jednom uspeo na BOSOVOJ Čiji kada sam ponovo probao sutra dan KATASTROFA tako isto i na SIMONIS. Najlepše BiH vas molio ako imate nešto uvezi BOSOVE čoje kao i PENDULOME STROCKE. Hvala. P.S. Ja sam učio i radio od R.BYRNEA i pročitao dve knjige a i po cedeu. Sve mi je uspelo osim DRAW SHOTIA.
Thanks ... and you're welcome.
Great video Dave! =)
@DrDaveBilliards
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
FYI, lot's of useful advice can be found in the FAQ section of my website (see the link in the video description above) under "draw shot - technique." But the only way to get more draw is to hit the CB lower and with more cue speed. Good luck.
Nice video, and helpfull
Tanks
These are some good tips
@DrDaveBilliards
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. If you or others want more draw advice and tips, see: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/draw.html#advice
@muhammadelkahwagy96
6 жыл бұрын
thank you, sir.
@djerez8 I think Bob's cue is a Balabushka. Regardless, a good draw stroke results from good technique, not a fancy cue.
was told something that I didn't know , must shoot thru the ball to get draw . if you don't continue the stroke , draw won't take . your videos are extremely informative . like to play you sometime , but it doesn't look like I'd have a turn on the table :(
@DrDaveBilliards
4 жыл бұрын
Accelerating into and through the ball is definitely an important ingredient of good draw. For others, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/
Wow such a great lesson bgnrs like me
@DrDaveBilliards
4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it. FYI, I also have a newer draw video you might enjoy: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z4uEschsdaarlZc.html and a lot more good stuff for beginners can be found in this playlist: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6R1zthwgqTHn9I.html
I like your technique
@DrDaveBilliards
8 жыл бұрын
+Logic defines everyshit trololol Thanks. Please help spread the word about my stuff.
Yes. Search for "NV B.87, jump shot"
You can go as low as possible without miscue for the best draw action. Just make sure your cue is absolutely LEVEL during the stroke, accelerate smoothly, and follow through, ending the stroke with the cue tip resting forward on the table.
great. thanks
@DrDaveBilliards
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you ... and you're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Tanks for hela so match
Will do :)
6:08 probably the biggest thing people get wrong on draw shots. Follow-through alone will improve your consistency and accuracy more than anything.
@DrDaveBilliards
7 жыл бұрын
A relaxed grip is also very important. But I agree that accelerating into and through the cue ball is critical.
@superstringcheese
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah to clarify, I think everything you mention is important. Your advice is dead on. Thanks for the video.
@zacharymoore3099
7 жыл бұрын
DrDaveBilliards I own a pool table that has a thicker felt that is not a pool table felt, is it still possible to do this shot?
@melodelacruz3795
6 жыл бұрын
superstringcheese MHLo💖
@melodelacruz3795
6 жыл бұрын
HLo😍
Agreed!
@SidVicious620 Thanks for the comment. Check out parts 2 and 3 also. Please help spread the word about my stuff, Dr. Dave
4:47 this is a key.
This is great information. I've been struggling putting draw on the ball. I think I'm bridging to close to the ball and angling my shaft too much. I don't suppose you know anyone in utah that would teach lessons. Videos are great but if you're doing something wrong there is no one to tell you. Pool sucks here pretty much just little bar tournaments with 3 tables.
@DrDaveBilliards
9 жыл бұрын
bob talbot FYI, for more draw shot technique advice, see: billiards.colostate.edu/threads/draw.html#advice Concerning instructors in Utah, I don't know of any off hand, but you might be able to find somebody via the links under "see also" here: billiards.colostate.edu/links.html#Schools If you're up for a road trip, I give lessons in Fort Collins: dr-dave-billiards.com/pool_school.html
that or a joss im pretty sure that's a joss because balaabushkas has usually some form of green wrap wether its green with white but its allways green
Possible causes: - tip not holding chalk well - tightening grip during the stroke - aiming too low on the ball For useful advice, click on the EDU link at the bottom of the video description above, go to the FAQ section, and check out the "draw shot - advice and drills" section.
I'm still a novice player and I go to the pool hall by myself all the time to practice and I have played with the draw shot and have so much trouble with it I keep jumping the cue ball but this video has helped but the cue ball only draws back about and inch or two
@florent2911 The most common problem is dropping the elbow, which makes you hit the CB higher than you think. Keep the grip relaxed, keep the elbow still, and accelerate into the ball. FYI, I have lots of good advice and resources to help with the draw stroke on the FAQ page of my website. Check it out.
Thanks. I hope you like and benefit from the instruction also.
You're welcome. FYI, I just posted a bunch more stuff about a week ago. Check it out.
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good solid info.....now the thing to remember is PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. i would say a month of shooting draw shots 3-4 hours a day will give you confidence and the ability to shot the draw about 80-90 % of the time. after 2 or 3 years of practice it will be close to 95 % .... do you have the ability to practice pool that much..or do you even want to?
@DrDaveBilliards
4 жыл бұрын
Good points.
This is usually caused by tightening the grip during the stroke, which lowers the tip.
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Cool wow
@DrDaveBilliards
Жыл бұрын
FYI, newer videos and info dealing with draw shot technique can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/ Check it out.
i have a hard tip on my cue stick, and i've been playing pool for years, doing a draw shot is hard with a hard tip, that could be a problem too. so I'd reccomend having a soft tip to do draw shots
Hi Dr Dave this video was very helpful I have a bad habit of not having a smooth stroke when I use a draw shot I tend to jerk or snap the cuestick
@DrDaveBilliards
3 жыл бұрын
That is a very common mistake. FYI, if you want more help, lots of good advice can be found in the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/ Enjoy, and good luck!
@bradstrong5271
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr Dave I bought a coffee cup ☕ from you Pool Mental Game 10 Commandments I drink out of it every morning a big THANK YOU 😀 👍
@DrDaveBilliards
3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you like it. Thank you!
do you have any videos on any hook follow shots?
I tried aiming for the bottom of the stripe and miscued like 10 times in a row. I had the cue as level as I could, running the back on the rail or just barely over it. I think I must have the slightly larger stripes. I made sure to chalk up well, and I could even observe the chalk spot right on the edge of the stripe.
@DrDaveBilliards
3 жыл бұрын
Some stripe widths are larger than the "standard" half diameter. See the video and other info here for how to easily check: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/maximum/
@DrDaveBilliards
3 жыл бұрын
Also, if the back of the cue is elevated some (as it always needs to be at a pool table), the stripe needs to be aligned parallel with the cue. See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/cue-elevation/
@jons2cool1
3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDaveBilliards I watched your top 10 tips for draw shots video. I actually think I need to work on every single tip to some extent. I was always afraid the cue ball would come back and hit my cue so I tried to find a way to stop the cue after contact. Which led me to either tense up my shoulder or arm causing me issues with accuracy. I also have too much 'slop' in my grip. I see what you mean about the stripe line being parallel with the cue from the diagram. When I was attempting the shot I had the stripe as parallel with the table as I could. But given the unavoidable elevation of the cue I should have rotated the stripe slightly up and away from me. I'll also try the test you showed with the 3 balls to see if the stripes are standard size or not.
@DrDaveBilliards
3 жыл бұрын
@@jons2cool1 I hope all the info and advice helps. Good luck!
@myblacklab7
2 жыл бұрын
I see your comment is old, but I am just learning this shot myself, and for me a huge problem I have is following through improperly. I think I pull up my cue too quickly to try to avoid the cue ball hitting the cue on the rebound, and I miscue every time that my follow through is wrong. I've had better luck when I follow through so that the tip of the cue is touching the table at full extension - now I just have to figure out how to get the cue out of the way on the rebound.
There is a video to learn how to jump the cue ball???
So, I have an 8ft pool table at my home. It is not a pro table obviously, and the felt is old, I brush it everyday but it's old for sure. The felt feels like wool and looks like the one on this video. My draw is non existent in my home table, however at my job we have a 7ft new table the cloth looks and feels different, it seems less "heavy" and I do produce draws of the lenght of the table. The balls are the same set both in my home and in my job. Is felt really that important/crucial with the draw shots? I do not have this problem with follow shots or english/sidespin shots.
@DrDaveBilliards
5 жыл бұрын
TheDjentGuy The cloth can make a big difference with draw shots. See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/table/cloth-effects/ If the CB is a little heavier than the OBs, that can also make draw more difficult. See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/ball/weight/
Marakke ora penak yen so draw ke cui terus jumpshot bandemke sing nyui. epic. Lha yo mula cue rasah kenal wae. Sudah jangan maen dengan orang seperti itu.
Very well made and very informative. Would the size of the cue ball make a huge difference? The table I have access to has similarly sized cues, but the balls are much smaller
@DrDaveBilliards
2 жыл бұрын
I think the advice is the same for all ball sizes; although, if the tip is too large with a small ball, you won't be able to get low enough. FYI, many more videos and info on this topic can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/
Thanks for the comment. I have a lot more where that came from. Check out all of my stuff and please help spread the word.
i've been playing for quite long im not a pro at it its just my hobby... and the problem im having is that i cant do draw shots in a long distance, im having no problem with mid and close range but when its far my cue ball tends to stun or just rolls to its natural angle. -_- why is that? help me pls :D
hello...is there any warm up exercise (dos and don'ts) when you play billiards? or any exercise... Thanks
@DrDaveBilliards
7 жыл бұрын
I don't feel a need for this because I'm in fairly good shape and I stay limber. However, someone who has a lot of stiffness or tightness in their neck and back might benefit from a little motion and stretching before playing.