Pongfinity Miikka VS Best 15-Year-Old in Germany

Miikka playing against the current German champion (2023) in under 15 year olds Noah Hersel
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  • @lgeiger
    @lgeiger7 ай бұрын

    Timo Boll was playing in the 1. Bundesliga at his age. Hard to imagine, because Noah is already playing at such a high level. Miikka improved a lot over the last years actually. He is just so secure when counterspinning that Noah loses his patience during those rallies. Impressive!

  • @marchammer1364

    @marchammer1364

    7 ай бұрын

    Maybe, ppl should stop comparing young talents to the golden generation Timo, Dima etc….especially to Timo, wouldn’t be fair to them. Some guys develop later (plus won’t reach Timo‘s MAX😉)

  • @lgeiger

    @lgeiger

    7 ай бұрын

    @@marchammer1364 You‘re right, sometimes people reach their peak later like Zhang Jike or Patrick Franziska. I wish Noah all the best for the future! To be fair, the level today is insanely high as well, so you can‘t exactly compare the two eras.

  • @olissime01

    @olissime01

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@lgeigeryou cannot compare tbe eras but you can surely compare the games and Noah is way below Timo at same age.

  • @BvBCrafty

    @BvBCrafty

    7 ай бұрын

    I mean come on you cant name them in one sentence. He is a good 15 yo player and Timo is one of the best players ever. Sure a 15 yo Timo would beat Miikka but we are talking about a world elite class player.

  • @olissime01

    @olissime01

    7 ай бұрын

    @@BvBCrafty he is not even that good and if he is the best 15 in Germany it simply means this german generation is not promising...

  • @Kushiren
    @Kushiren7 ай бұрын

    love how the kid looks at his paddle to blame it instead of his own movement for missing points. we all have done that at one point lmao

  • @Afropalmen

    @Afropalmen

    7 ай бұрын

    Just to be clear. Atleast myself. I look at my paddle to see where I hit the ball so I know where I hit it so I know what misstake I made.

  • @ruhrohraggy1313

    @ruhrohraggy1313

    7 ай бұрын

    It looked like at about 1:10 that one of the rubber sheets came halfway (or more) off the paddle. Aside from that, I do also like to look at my paddle to find out where on the face I hit it

  • @Jannisgrb

    @Jannisgrb

    7 ай бұрын

    Or to find out whether it was even my mistake since sometimes after the ball slipped there's simply a slightly wet circly on my rubber so I know I did the right movement, but the ball slipped due to humidity

  • @MikeyiOS

    @MikeyiOS

    7 ай бұрын

    come on there was something wrong with the racket those 2 point in which he looked at it, probably sweat on the racket which made it slip

  • @hichamlettresetdecos4188

    @hichamlettresetdecos4188

    7 ай бұрын

    Kid or not kid WE all do that!!

  • @nimakh5176
    @nimakh51767 ай бұрын

    This really puts Félix Lebrun's game into perspective. He's the champion of Europe and is barely 2 years older than this kid here.

  • @olissime01

    @olissime01

    7 ай бұрын

    Since when Félix Lebrun is champion of Europe ? He won the European games, which is different.

  • @velyth9979

    @velyth9979

    7 ай бұрын

    @@olissime01Current Felix Lebrun kills any European player and would only lose to Chinese elite

  • @lll-yq4hu

    @lll-yq4hu

    7 ай бұрын

    @@velyth9979 didn't he lose his last two matches against Dang Qui?

  • @olissime01

    @olissime01

    7 ай бұрын

    @@lll-yq4hu that's correct.

  • @nimakh5176

    @nimakh5176

    7 ай бұрын

    @@olissime01 Technically you are correct but you can argue that currently he's the strongest non Asian player out there, the only other two non Asian players ranked above him are Dima and Hugo, both of whom just lost to him at the WTT Contender. BTW, I'm a big fan of both Dima and Félix. That final was like torture for me 🤣😅.

  • @moataz1140
    @moataz11407 ай бұрын

    I like how the kid discovered a counter to mika’s troublesome side spin receive in 6:55 and 7:00 but alas the game was nearly over and it was too late to recover. Well played by both 👏

  • @niklaskras5498
    @niklaskras54987 ай бұрын

    Thanks for showing the whole match and not making weird cuts

  • @shakhzodazimov3964
    @shakhzodazimov39647 ай бұрын

    Masterclass footwork from Miikka

  • @wazar4501
    @wazar45017 ай бұрын

    Miikka kinda threw first set, but came back! Amazing match guys

  • @jens.der.III.
    @jens.der.III.7 ай бұрын

    pongfinity plus is an underrated Channel

  • @lukakozelj4615
    @lukakozelj46157 ай бұрын

    I haven’t seen Miikka play so good as in this match before. Very good level.

  • @drampharos1366
    @drampharos13667 ай бұрын

    When Miikka's backhand is getting onto the table, he's easily a top 3 player in Finland. He has a giant swing that is very hit-or-miss, and his backhand flick is somewhat weak, especially against more varied spin, but he played very well this game and took great advantage of the fact that his backhand was on fire. In addition, his counter-looping game has improved significantly, and I feel this portion of his game is his greatest strength, possibly the best in Finland all things considered. Perhaps his footwork is not amazing, but he's such a fast player that it doesn't matter, and he can pivot into a forehand very easily, at least at this level. Miikka is looking so strong and shows no signs of slowing down, keep it up, we're all rooting for you!

  • @lukabosnjak3829

    @lukabosnjak3829

    7 ай бұрын

    Maby sensei transferred some of his backhand knowledge 😂

  • @leonw3538
    @leonw35387 ай бұрын

    Hersel’s ,,WAAASS!?!?” at 2:24 is so funny 😂

  • @meenasamaan481
    @meenasamaan4817 ай бұрын

    i think Noah got flustered, or gave up, or got tired as the match progressed. maybe his mentality is not quite there, but he performed worse after every set. Probably because he's not as experienced? idk. he's still a damn good player and would beat me 10-0 lol. well played to both players

  • @dubmob151

    @dubmob151

    6 ай бұрын

    Is that like chess where you resign before they take your king? Never give them the satisfaction of that last point😅

  • @XMcNealX
    @XMcNealX7 ай бұрын

    Some really nice shots there. Cool vid to watch.

  • @paulowens3374
    @paulowens33747 ай бұрын

    The kid has some attitude, always looking at his paddle and letting his emotion get the better of him. Lots of talent though.

  • @frankdevries5739

    @frankdevries5739

    Ай бұрын

    Too much praise. A bit spoiled. You see it often.

  • @johnwilkinson3597
    @johnwilkinson35977 ай бұрын

    Well played miikka that backhand flick working a treat

  • @BakiWien
    @BakiWien6 ай бұрын

    To me the main difference between the two players was the mentality. Staying focused through close and descicive rallies demands a strong psyche which usally comes with experience...

  • @martinhutchinson9265

    @martinhutchinson9265

    6 ай бұрын

    My thoughts exactly - as soon as he eliminates a bit of the frustration and self-doubt with good coaching he will progress exponentially.

  • @TennisMaster709
    @TennisMaster7097 ай бұрын

    The kid would literally die against otto

  • @tischtennisbydanielporten
    @tischtennisbydanielporten7 ай бұрын

    Noah has big potential. Let’s see how this march will end in 3 years 😉

  • @yitan1991
    @yitan19917 ай бұрын

    Looks like the type of guy who gets easily mad and tries to find excuses. Luckily he's still young and can fix those bad habits

  • @larsonzekas386
    @larsonzekas3867 ай бұрын

    Awesome video 👏👏👏

  • @benjaminpetersen276
    @benjaminpetersen2767 ай бұрын

    if they arent already doing that i wish they filmed all the matches they play and uploade them id definitely watch it

  • @MyAzhole
    @MyAzhole7 ай бұрын

    This is such good content holy

  • @TyphoonDocumentaries
    @TyphoonDocumentaries7 ай бұрын

    love the chopblock at 1:29!

  • @archibald-yc5le
    @archibald-yc5le7 ай бұрын

    Skillful use of long serves by Mikka, the kid was stunned

  • @erdbeereiz
    @erdbeereiz7 ай бұрын

    The boy needs to improve massivly on his mental. You just saw him break in the 2nd set, from there on he was play way below his normal level. Nevertheless good work Miikka !

  • @nimakh5176

    @nimakh5176

    7 ай бұрын

    The boy needs to improve, period.

  • @Baiko
    @Baiko7 ай бұрын

    I wonder if the kid cracked under pressure or if Miikka saw his weakness, I can't tell from watching this

  • @luminescentowl

    @luminescentowl

    7 ай бұрын

    the kid was having a lot of difficulty with spinny serves aimed deep at his backhand side, and although i wasn't counting, miikka was probably able to secure at least 10 points off that through the entire game

  • @nikolamarkovic2207

    @nikolamarkovic2207

    7 ай бұрын

    and every time he needed safe point, he did that serve. Very well noticed!@@luminescentowl

  • @ShukusatsuDirk
    @ShukusatsuDirk6 ай бұрын

    Love the unconventional techniques and creativity! Also: is that Tim counting?

  • @johannesmergarten
    @johannesmergarten7 ай бұрын

    i would like to know what material mikka is playing. it looks like it has a lot of power and spin but still works really well when trying to controll defensively. anyone knows? and am i right or is it just the amazing skill of Mikka i am seeing?

  • @IgneelS11
    @IgneelS117 ай бұрын

    Does Miikka understand a bit of german? :) He played really well and Noah has really good technique but not the mindset and tactical capabilities to break through Miikkas barrage of topspins. Gut gemacht Miikka!

  • @kamarmccurdy-batik98
    @kamarmccurdy-batik987 ай бұрын

    Well played Mikka you're so good!

  • @Michael_Hamburg
    @Michael_Hamburg7 ай бұрын

    Impressive to see!!

  • @Lelg35
    @Lelg357 ай бұрын

    Really good play from Miikka

  • @volotile8301
    @volotile83017 ай бұрын

    Lol the kid is not used to losing

  • @frankdevries5739

    @frankdevries5739

    7 ай бұрын

    He behaves poorly. Like an eight year old spoilt brat.

  • @bentonxavier5094

    @bentonxavier5094

    7 ай бұрын

    He's 15... and if you look at the end you can see he accepted his defeat when he shook Miikka's hand.

  • @Leminster

    @Leminster

    7 ай бұрын

    I don't get why you say that. I'm pretty sure no competitor likes losing, as a 15 years old probably playing with adults, he is definitely losing a lot of matches.

  • @thaiming1306

    @thaiming1306

    7 ай бұрын

    when you said, i expected some bad reactions at the end. Something like throwing his racket... but nothing, he handled that loss very professional 🤷‍♂️

  • @slowfllake
    @slowfllake6 ай бұрын

    🏓 Tough match! It's clear that the young German player has immense talent, but this game highlighted how crucial emotional control is in table tennis. Despite the loss, there's so much potential there. Table tennis is as much a psychological battle as it is a physical one. Looking forward to seeing how this talented teenager grows and learns from this experience. Great effort and a great learning opportunity! #TableTennisJourney #MentalGame #KeepGrowing 🌟

  • @PigiB1980
    @PigiB19804 ай бұрын

    Now, we want Miikka Vs. Danilo Faso from Italy!!!

  • @Zaulty2304
    @Zaulty23047 ай бұрын

    That 15 year old guy’s attitude is the same as how I always play friendly with my friends

  • @dis_darklord3385
    @dis_darklord33854 ай бұрын

    Lets go vs best 16 years old in france)

  • @mickaelfer5621
    @mickaelfer56216 ай бұрын

    Lateral lift serve on backhand/elbow diff

  • @ShaTenniPo
    @ShaTenniPo7 ай бұрын

    Very interesting game!

  • @Jubata1
    @Jubata17 ай бұрын

    Pongfinity x TTD?

  • @yannickzhu356
    @yannickzhu3567 ай бұрын

    Noah is a crazy player

  • @visitvictoria4985
    @visitvictoria49857 ай бұрын

    dear mikka, whats ur use rubber in racket? thank u 🤙

  • @Sanamyt7839
    @Sanamyt78397 ай бұрын

    How many people want team pongfinity to perform in next wttc

  • @Narryel

    @Narryel

    7 ай бұрын

    bro no offence but they would be destroyed

  • @jackalexander.

    @jackalexander.

    7 ай бұрын

    Nah they wouldn't even make it close to that

  • @saschaviehmann
    @saschaviehmann7 ай бұрын

    Hätte nie gedacht das mal ein Mitglied von Pongfinity in meinem Landkreis spielt. Mal den Rolf-Werner fragen was das kostet😂

  • @OurWorldIsBroken
    @OurWorldIsBroken7 ай бұрын

    It sounds like the massive audience (5 people) have been added later to the video :D

  • @user-uh9ov9fc1z
    @user-uh9ov9fc1z4 ай бұрын

    Great match.

  • @kathychow1439
    @kathychow14397 ай бұрын

    I like how Miikka beat best 15-years-old easily

  • @wagnerg0d56
    @wagnerg0d564 ай бұрын

    Ficou nervoso no jogo inteiro e não soube controlar as emoções, mais está tudo bem, ele tem bom movimento, se praticar chega mais longe ainda

  • @francislefebvre9895
    @francislefebvre98954 ай бұрын

    Have you ever played against Adan bobrow? Could be a good video idea :) Good match

  • @iceshock.7976
    @iceshock.79767 ай бұрын

    dude there is some serious german "yes" in the background "JAAAAAAAAAAA"

  • @shakoobok8920
    @shakoobok89207 ай бұрын

    Nice play Mikka

  • @luigenius5556
    @luigenius55567 ай бұрын

    Noah just needs to keep his emotions under control

  • @zaye_
    @zaye_Ай бұрын

    « It’s the racket who make me miss the point ! »

  • @ivoplsek
    @ivoplsek3 ай бұрын

    Maybe this was not his best match but I was not too impressed by the kid. Of course, he's an impressive at the age of 15, but are we talking Timo Boll impressive? I doubt it, I just did not see - mentally and technically - the absolute genius that you have to be to go all the way. Being no 1 at 15 is nice but try to go back and see how many no. 1 at 15 became really professional table tennis players of the highest caliber. Maybe this kind will prove me wrong in 3 -4 years time, but right now..not that impressed. Well done Miikka though--after the first set collapse on his backhand side, he put three great sets together.

  • @dimitursgremory734
    @dimitursgremory7347 ай бұрын

    Great job Miikka

  • @victorpermana7314
    @victorpermana73147 ай бұрын

    How effective was that reverse serve …

  • @Defkin
    @Defkin7 ай бұрын

    Well played Mikka

  • @monprincos
    @monprincos7 ай бұрын

    Omg, Pongfinity in Germany? Which city??

  • @lellol5919
    @lellol59197 ай бұрын

    is mikka not using hurricane 3 on forehand anymore? (because he plays instead of black side with red side on forehand)

  • @babymemory276
    @babymemory2763 ай бұрын

    oleksandr kocherha, please duel him, bros 13 and won U19 doubles in our district he’s way too good

  • @schioriginal4219
    @schioriginal42194 ай бұрын

    my biggest flex is that i won against the 15 year old

  • @Martin-kb3yr
    @Martin-kb3yr6 ай бұрын

    How mach TTR?

  • @sanjibkumarbera9006
    @sanjibkumarbera90067 ай бұрын

    Challenge:try some cricket trick shots.🎉

  • @ageofechochambers9469
    @ageofechochambers94697 ай бұрын

    The kid should get some coaching on how to control his emotions, this is not his fault but the elders around him should help build his mental game .

  • @michikatsutsugikuni3098
    @michikatsutsugikuni30987 ай бұрын

    Only regionalliga at his age? Not tryna hate or smth, I myself only play at bezirksklasse level (im 14 and it's 5 leagues below regionalliga), but for example some of the chinese or japanese talents already play top 100 level at 14 years of age, so it really is astonishing to see how great the difference is between them and the talents from europe. Of course, in asian countries, the children train way more and are disciplined more by their parents, but the difference is still unbelievable.

  • @roshanbaviskar8197
    @roshanbaviskar81977 ай бұрын

    Losing a set doesn't matter if you know how to make a comeback. That's what Miikka displayed us ❤❤. Love from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳.

  • @1st-dima_lazarev
    @1st-dima_lazarev4 ай бұрын

    Despite Mikka has about 28, he showed a quicker and more moveable game. But the boy’s game for me are quite good

  • @hfbudiman
    @hfbudiman7 ай бұрын

    6:52 lmaoo i would do the same

  • @berryesseen
    @berryesseen7 ай бұрын

    Pongfinity destroying kids now?

  • @legent23
    @legent237 ай бұрын

    Welcome to germany 🥰

  • @samtarly2982
    @samtarly29827 ай бұрын

    wow that kid is going places

  • @TopFearless

    @TopFearless

    7 ай бұрын

    is he though? He would need to jump one league each year from now on for the next 4 years if he wants to even compete internationally

  • @ClasherLele
    @ClasherLele7 ай бұрын

    In which team youre playing Miikka?

  • @olemerkel2624

    @olemerkel2624

    7 ай бұрын

    Its the german team TTV Stadtallendorf

  • @srovorake6626
    @srovorake66267 ай бұрын

    This game was played on October 30st 2022... Why are you uploading it a year later???

  • @derkosmischezischer2979

    @derkosmischezischer2979

    7 ай бұрын

    Aaaah....now i can understand the heading of this video. I was a little bit confused about it. Thank's for the note.

  • @caetano1998
    @caetano19986 ай бұрын

    How is 2:43 point for Noah? Wasn't it out?

  • @tiboralvant6092
    @tiboralvant60927 ай бұрын

    Try meeting swedens best 15 yr olds. I think it'll be a difference.

  • @Reder-TT
    @Reder-TT7 ай бұрын

    The best 15 year old is Johann Magnus Mahl

  • @derkosmischezischer2979

    @derkosmischezischer2979

    7 ай бұрын

    Please explain your belief. Why has Noah Hersel won the German under 15 Championchip and not Johann? Johann lost against Matej Haspel in the half final. When he would be the best player, he would also be the best in the wttv-ranking, but he isn't. Johann is a good player, but actually he isn't better than Noah. Sorry, but i can't follow your meaning.

  • @Reder-TT

    @Reder-TT

    7 ай бұрын

    @@derkosmischezischer2979 Johann hat 100 Punkte mehr

  • @derkosmischezischer2979

    @derkosmischezischer2979

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Reder-TT OK, wenn dem so ist, dann hatt er einen höheren TTR-Wert, der darauf schließen lässt. Sind die 100 Punkte Unterschied auch der Stand von vor einem Jahr? Wenn schon, mus man das ja auch ins Verhältnis zum Video setzen ;-) Die Spiele aus dem März 2023 "sagen" aber etwas anderes.

  • @BlackBirdProject1

    @BlackBirdProject1

    7 ай бұрын

    Wenn man aktuell die Rangliste Jungs 2008 und jünger abruft, ist Noah Hersel gerade Mal auf der 11 ?!?

  • @Reder-TT

    @Reder-TT

    7 ай бұрын

    @@derkosmischezischer2979 klar. Johanns qttr Ist bei weitem nicht so hoch. Aber Johanns Entwicklung ist einfach extrem stark in den letzten 2-4 Monaten. Er spielt ja auch Regionalliga und auch positiv soweit ich weiß. 8:4 Regio unten sagt schon viel

  • @MrThePhotoshopper
    @MrThePhotoshopper7 ай бұрын

    despite his talent, the young man has an absolutely stinking attitude

  • @firefist4547
    @firefist4547Ай бұрын

    You've played amazing but I can't believe this kid is best u15 player in germany

  • @user-pm9vr3jx8v
    @user-pm9vr3jx8v7 ай бұрын

    I heard Nakayama-kinnikunn's scream

  • @elg0rdo351
    @elg0rdo3517 ай бұрын

    Kid is lamenting after each point. That's aggravating to watch. I wonder how he was able to come back in set 1.

  • @Ivo.Outdoor
    @Ivo.Outdoor6 ай бұрын

    Kid needs to learn playing and loosing against a player like Miikka isnt only a loss, its valuable learning time.

  • @MCFoultier
    @MCFoultier7 ай бұрын

    no spoilers in comments

  • @ysl223
    @ysl2237 ай бұрын

    The german was absolutely astonished every timed he missed! Love to see it lol.

  • @dragonviggo
    @dragonviggo7 ай бұрын

    I wonder what happened if Mikka challenges Felix or Alexis Lebrun 😂

  • @bentonxavier5094

    @bentonxavier5094

    6 ай бұрын

    They'd wipe the floor with him 🤷‍♂️ without a doubt

  • @TableTablewithDov
    @TableTablewithDov7 ай бұрын

    that 360 at 0:48 was personal😂

  • @paulogazolla7488
    @paulogazolla74887 ай бұрын

    experience...

  • @BobyMcfly8
    @BobyMcfly87 ай бұрын

    Pour les français, ça joue combien ? 200/300?

  • @nimakh5176

    @nimakh5176

    7 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @loicco4386

    @loicco4386

    6 ай бұрын

    jamais ça joue pas du tout numéroté là

  • @BobyMcfly8

    @BobyMcfly8

    6 ай бұрын

    37ieme mondial en cadet, ça joue environ 500 ou 600, me suis enflammé avec les 200

  • @loicco4386

    @loicco4386

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BobyMcfly8 j'ai vu que le match s'était déroulé l'an dernier. Sur la vidéo ça ne joue pas numéroté, après il semble s'être amélioré. Le classement cadet après... Pas vraiment une bonne représentation du niveau réel des jeunes.

  • @wernerandreeloerts
    @wernerandreeloerts2 ай бұрын

    5:14 look the table

  • @R4FAEL7
    @R4FAEL77 ай бұрын

    play with Thiago Abiodun pls is good plauer and have 15 yo

  • @abdifitahabdiaskhir5019
    @abdifitahabdiaskhir50197 ай бұрын

    beautiful

  • @mmlgaming4552
    @mmlgaming45527 ай бұрын

    6:50 Donkey Where?!?!?!?

  • @The_Normalised_Cyclist
    @The_Normalised_Cyclist7 ай бұрын

    Weird flex with the title, but okay, better to put their respective ranking points. What position was this game?

  • @luknam5778

    @luknam5778

    7 ай бұрын

    Noah plays at Nr 4 and Mikka at Nr 3 in their Teams. Köln 2 vs Stadtallendorf

  • @The_Normalised_Cyclist

    @The_Normalised_Cyclist

    7 ай бұрын

    ok thanks for your input @@luknam5778

  • @lilclorox8558
    @lilclorox85587 ай бұрын

    0:15 can anyone please tell me why was this point given to mikka?

  • @dubmob151

    @dubmob151

    6 ай бұрын

    Because it went past the edge of the table and Mikka tapped it up after it fell below the top surface?

  • @bentonxavier5094

    @bentonxavier5094

    4 ай бұрын

    Because Noah hit the ball way over the table when trying to return it. What made you think Noah won the point?

  • @TableTablewithDov
    @TableTablewithDov7 ай бұрын

    what's with Pongfinity playing in all these German tourneys?

  • @nebojsakacar2527

    @nebojsakacar2527

    7 ай бұрын

    This is some german league

  • @franz009franz

    @franz009franz

    7 ай бұрын

    the german league is the 2nd most competetive in the world after the chinese. it's easy to just go to a semi-pro level club and find ppl as good as you or better, so you can improve. if miika played in finland its the same handful of players that can compete against him everytime. hard to improve like that!

  • @Baiko

    @Baiko

    7 ай бұрын

    Miikka has played in the German pro league for a couple of years now, I don't know what the other tournament was where Otto as also there.

  • @bentonxavier5094

    @bentonxavier5094

    7 ай бұрын

    Because Germany is one of the best countries in the world that have the greatest opportunities for competitive players to enter in.

  • @srovorake6626

    @srovorake6626

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Baiko Miika has played in German AMATEUR leagues for couple of years now... He's just not that good. We have hundreds of better players here. This game uploaded here is from the 4th tier...

  • @bau7917
    @bau79174 ай бұрын

    try against swedens best 15 yr old!

  • @user-cn4mr4pn3s
    @user-cn4mr4pn3s7 ай бұрын

    nice

  • @Rom3TV
    @Rom3TV3 ай бұрын

    0:17 what happened? Why does Miikka grab the ball and how does that give HIM a point :D?

  • @ann-kathrin2084

    @ann-kathrin2084

    3 ай бұрын

    Miikka grabbed the ball behind the table. It was his point because Noah failed to play it on the table.

  • @botao4456
    @botao44564 ай бұрын

    Much more enjoyable than wtt

  • @Kausan1
    @Kausan17 ай бұрын

    Context?

  • @andeeznuts420
    @andeeznuts4207 ай бұрын

    Gratz mikka. You beat a 15yo